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jenny jones fan
Dec 24, 2007
I am new to this Usenet thing and this thread was very helpful. Thanks so much, OP!

Just confused about one thing. I am using http://nzb.su to search for what I want to download. I'm noticing it's a bit lacking, like I'd expect more results for a particular search than I am getting. Could it have anything to do with http://nzb.su Like is there a better "search site" or something that shows more results?

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BlackRider
Dec 28, 2004

Milky_Sauce posted:

I am new to this Usenet thing and this thread was very helpful. Thanks so much, OP!

Just confused about one thing. I am using http://nzb.su to search for what I want to download. I'm noticing it's a bit lacking, like I'd expect more results for a particular search than I am getting. Could it have anything to do with http://nzb.su Like is there a better "search site" or something that shows more results?

There are different indexing sites and some are going to be better than others. nzb.su monitors usenet for files that are posted to it and then indexes them in a database so you can search and find them (this is how all of these indexing sites work). The problem is that a lot of indexing sites aren't taking new members so anything better is probably closed to new members. I don't have any experience with other usenet indexers (specifically closed ones) so I'm just kind of assuming they are better..

I know what you mean about it feeling a bit lacking, but for recent stuff it seems to be as good as any. Is the stuff you are searching for older? Old seasons of tv shows, etc?

BlackRider fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Nov 4, 2011

Ashex
Jun 25, 2007

These pipes are cleeeean!!!

deep square leg posted:

Interesting! I won't be using it on Windows, though. But anyway, I do think I could just override the python method that returns the system time (but I don't care enough to try).

What will you be using it on? That library is for linux.

gabensraum
Sep 16, 2003


LOAD "NICE!",8,1

Ashex posted:

What will you be using it on? That library is for linux.

Sorry I should have said "I won't be using it. My SickBeard is installed on Windows".

jenny jones fan
Dec 24, 2007

BlackRider posted:

There are different indexing sites and some are going to be better than others. nzb.su monitors usenet for files that are posted to it and then indexes them in a database so you can search and find them (this is how all of these indexing sites work). The problem is that a lot of indexing sites aren't taking new members so anything better is probably closed to new members. I don't have any experience with other usenet indexers (specifically closed ones) so I'm just kind of assuming they are better..

I know what you mean about it feeling a bit lacking, but for recent stuff it seems to be as good as any. Is the stuff you are searching for older? Old seasons of tv shows, etc?

Thanks for this. I tried a bunch of things, yeah one of them was a TV show and almost nothing came up. A good example I can give while not approaching :filez: territory is searching "[EDITED OUT TO BE SAFE]" in the XXX section. [NAME EDITED], while not exactly a porno star, is famous as hell and I'm getting like 1 page of results.

Does the monthly package I bought from UseNetServer impact that at all?

Again, sorry if I sound like an idiot, I'm still learning this stuff :)

jenny jones fan fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Nov 4, 2011

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?
FYI, porn is just as copyrighted as anything else and thus just as :filez:.

As for your particular example, all that matters is what's been posted during the retention time of your server. That sort of content doesn't tend to be reposted often unless it's amazingly popular, plus if you're searching by name you'll only get content that has her name in its title.

BlackRider
Dec 28, 2004
Hey don't worry about asking questions, this is the right place for them. I'm still learning the fine details myself.

I thought that looked like too few results for that search term so I tried signing up for an nzb site that only does porn.. it gave pretty much the same results. It may actually be that there aren't many nzbs for her out there (or whatever newsgroup they are posted too isn't being indexed).

Maybe someone who knows this stuff a little better can give a more definitive answer.

Edit: Yeah, guess there just isn't much from her out there or the titles she is in don't contain her name.

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005

inpheaux (The OP) posted:

Don't talk about the specific contents of specific newsgroups.
Don't talk about things you want to download from Usenet, things you've already downloaded from Usenet, or ask for help with utilizing things you've downloaded from Usenet.
Don't post direct links to NZBs, collections of NZBs, or Newzbin reports of copyrighted material.
Don't post screenshots or logs that haven't been sanitized. Black bars, use them.
These rules keep the thread legit and keep the thread focused on usenet and usenet software.
Milky_Sauce, you can just edit out that example. Not a big deal.

gary oldmans diary fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Nov 4, 2011

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

wolrah posted:

FYI, porn is just as copyrighted as anything else and thus just as :filez:.

I just read this a few minutes ago:

http://bit.ly/rBcMXz

quote:

Following on our story about questions concerning the copyright status of both Debbie Does Dallas and Deepthroat, we're pointed to a copyright lawsuit concerning porn, in which the judge notes that in many parts of the country, it's actually an open question if porn can even be covered by copyright.

jenny jones fan
Dec 24, 2007

Hogburto posted:

These rules keep the thread legit and keep the thread focused on usenet and usenet software.
Milky_Sauce, you can just edit out that example. Not a big deal.

Sorry about that, I figured I'd use something as benign as possible but I've edited my post.

The only other thing confusing me is I am getting this message a lot from nzb.su:

"Service Unavailable

Your maximum api or download limit has been reached for the day"

Is this a limit set from nzb.su or is it the UsenetServer package I bought? I thought if there was any download limit it would have been monthly, not daily?

Besides, I bought this $10 a month package which says unlimited:

http://www.usenetserver.com/partners/ngr/?a_aid=ngr&a_bid=986e020f&chan=NGR

Again, I'm really new to this, so I apologize for the silly questions.

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



I can't find anything on the site at the moment, but I seem to remember when I was using nzb.su a while ago that unless you sign up / donate money, you are limited to the amount of nzb files you can download daily.

inpheaux
Jul 12, 2001

Milky_Sauce posted:

The only other thing confusing me is I am getting this message a lot from nzb.su:

"Service Unavailable

Your maximum api or download limit has been reached for the day"

Is this a limit set from nzb.su or is it the UsenetServer package I bought? I thought if there was any download limit it would have been monthly, not daily?
You said it yourself: you're getting that message from nzb.su. Their free account has a daily api hit limit, so that's every time you download an nzb from them via sabnzbd. For a small donation they'll bump that up to a pretty ridiculously high level. Details should be on their site, or you can go bug them on irc.

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



Just found the info, check out http://nzb.su/vip

jenny jones fan
Dec 24, 2007
Ah, thanks a ton. I guess I will donate (you'd think where they post the error I was getting they'd link you to a donation page!)

I do have one more question, though, and I promise it's the last. Again, thanks so much for this thread, I had been meaning to get into Usenet for a while but it was such a confusing mess I couldn't have done it without it.

Last time I tried to use Usenet, about 2 years ago or so, it was just as I remembered it in the early 90s. I needed a program to access it (I think I tried xnews and Thunderbird) and there'd be like 10,000 "sub sections" of the TV "section" for example. alt.tv.comedy.animated or something would be an example.

Now when I search in TV on a site like nzb.su, does it search just under alt.tv or whatever? Or does it search under the "sub sections" as well? I'd like it to the be latter because obviously I'd get more hits. Except of course if it's the latter, that means when searching in "XXX" I'm assuming it's going to be looking in alt.binaries.erotica.bestiality :cry:

Unless these sites are just smart enough to leave out the depraved "sub sections"?

jenny jones fan fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Nov 4, 2011

The Modern Leper
Dec 25, 2008

You must be a masochist
Each indexer searches a set list of groups. If you use binsearch, for example, you can select if you want to search common news groups or specific ones.

I don't think it would be feasible for anyone to facilitate an alt.binaries.xxx.* search. It would be too overwhelming.

Edit: xxx meaning "whatever," not porn necessarily.

Smeep
Jan 20, 2004

Thermopyle posted:

I just read this a few minutes ago:

http://bit.ly/rBcMXz

Not to derail too much, but that's ridiculous. Of course you wouldn't be able to copyright "people having sex," but certainly any film or even a film clip is automatically copyrighted upon its creation, no? If it's legal, obviously. If not, then it's moot anyway.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

Smeep posted:

Not to derail too much, but that's ridiculous. Of course you wouldn't be able to copyright "people having sex," but certainly any film or even a film clip is automatically copyrighted upon its creation, no? If it's legal, obviously. If not, then it's moot anyway.

Well apparently the issue is that what you say makes sense, it just isn't a settled issue in many jurisdictions. (Note that IANAL, but the text quoted is from a judge, so whatever that means to you)

kazmeyer
Jul 26, 2001

'Cause we're the good guys.

drwprtcht posted:

Sorry if this has been posted already...but xsusenet is offering free 1mbit accounts right now.

http://www.xsusenet.com/en/

Gogogogo

Is it just me, or do these guys have like 7 days retention tops? I've pulled a couple of newsgroups and I've yet to see anything much older than that.

inpheaux
Jul 12, 2001

kazmeyer posted:

Is it just me, or do these guys have like 7 days retention tops? I've pulled a couple of newsgroups and I've yet to see anything much older than that.
I haven't bothered getting an xsusenet account, but we've heard pretty terrible things in #sabnzbd. Even just being able to reliably connect to them is apparently a feat.

widds2v
Aug 23, 2004
Sorry, I'm socially retarded.
Question:

In server setup it shows the "name" of my server being "news.supernews.com:563" even though my port is set to 443. If I have 443 in the port and SSL box checked it will test connection fine, if I uncheck SSL box and leave 443 it errors out. Does the SSL box force port 563 regardless of what you put in the port field?

Cheese Bridge Area
Jan 27, 2008
So I just signed up for the free account on xsusenet. It's working fine although slow enough that I think most on this thread would become frustrated and you could probably get the same files elsewhere free much faster.

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

So I finally got around to setting up a HTPC with XBMC + Sick Beard + Sabnzbd, and so far it's pretty awesome and impressive.

One question: What is the best way to fix a show in sickbeard where the tvdb and the scene releases are different. It looks like this one show I added the initial pilot was a double episode, and the scene releases went with one numbering scheme, and tvdb with another, so now every episode is off by one when sickbeard imports it into xbmc.

edit:
What I mean is, TVDB/SickBeard has the episodes numbered like this: S01E01, S01E02, S01E03, S01E04, S01E05, S01E06
All the NZB releases, because of the production numbering and double episode, skipped episode 02, number them like this: S01E01, S01E03, S01E04, S01E05, S01E06, S01E07

So in other words, what's E05 in Sickbeard is actually E06 on all the index sites, and I can't seem to find any way to update the episode DB for sickbeard to put it back in sync. I could manually rename all the files and reimport into XBMC and reset the episode status in sickbeard, but without disabling the show in Sickbeard, it's going to continuously think that the current episode is the current+1 and redownload it.

mrmcd fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Nov 6, 2011

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Yeah you're kind of screwed when TheTVDB (Sickbeard's source) disagrees with The Scene who releases stuff.

Fcdts26
Mar 18, 2009
Nm its me.

Fcdts26 fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Nov 6, 2011

Lazy Eye
Sep 5, 2003

I've found xsusenet to be useful for DMCA fills. I have it marked as optional in SABnzbd because my expectations are low for the free service.

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik
That's exactly why I grabbed a free account, though looking at server stats I haven't used it yet. Guess the stuff i'm grabbing isn't getting dmca'd.

One Arm Manny
May 17, 2008

mrmcd posted:

... double episodes...

You want to look into naming schemes for files that contain multiple episodes. Naming the first file s01e01e02 and going on normally from there should work in both xbmc abd sickbeard IIRC.

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



One Arm Manny posted:

You want to look into naming schemes for files that contain multiple episodes. Naming the first file s01e01e02 and going on normally from there should work in both xbmc abd sickbeard IIRC.
You can make it work after the fact and have a properly named archive, but you can't automatically download episodes when the numbers don't match and there is no way to adjust them.

Stockwell
Mar 29, 2005
Ask me about personal watercraft.
Does anyone know if there's a way to have Sickbeard remux MKVs to m2ts files during post processing? PS3 Media server seems to stream MKVs fine for the most part, except for when I try and seek to a certain point in the video, at which point it shits the bed. Having to manually remux everything with MKV2VOB is getting a little annoying as well.

The closest thing I've found is this sabnzbd script http://forums.sabnzbd.org/viewtopic.php?t=4915 which seems to accomplish what I'm aiming for, but it doesn't look like it'd work with sickbeard's show/season folders as it requires that I specify a single source folder. I couldn't write or modify a script to save my life unfortunately, anyone know what I'd need to change, or have another script they're already using?

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

One Arm Manny posted:

You want to look into naming schemes for files that contain multiple episodes. Naming the first file s01e01e02 and going on normally from there should work in both xbmc abd sickbeard IIRC.

I hate doing this as it means the second episode is tricky at best to jump directly to, but I had to do it for the first time recently with a certain recently restarted animated series that airs with two 15 minute episodes in a 30 minute time slot.

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

You can make it work after the fact and have a properly named archive, but you can't automatically download episodes when the numbers don't match and there is no way to adjust them.

I've been working on hacking Sickbeard to support lookups against a database that has actual scene release filenames and the TVDB episode IDs they associate with, but it's not too reliable at the moment and would require public hosting with a decent user community to be useful.

Uuudar
Apr 18, 2003

Lazy Eye posted:

I've found xsusenet to be useful for DMCA fills. I have it marked as optional in SABnzbd because my expectations are low for the free service.

That's exactly what I've done and I've pulled nearly a GB from them in the past few weeks as a result. No complaints about free.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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wolrah posted:

I hate doing this as it means the second episode is tricky at best to jump directly to, but I had to do it for the first time recently with a certain recently restarted animated series that airs with two 15 minute episodes in a 30 minute time slot.

You can also hand edit the NFO file to tell it the time code where the 2nd episode starts. A pain, I know. For shows that I have the definitive version of, I might just split the files by hand.

Fcdts26
Mar 18, 2009
So I noticed my speeds have been very low for me about half what they should be. I changed my port from 563 to 443 and now its great. Is cox in AZ throttling 563 now? What should I do if they start throttling 443 also? vpn? I'm not a heavy user at all and I've never had issues with them before.

PirateDentist
Mar 28, 2006

Sailing The Seven Seas Searching For Scurvy

Nask26 posted:

So I noticed my speeds have been very low for me about half what they should be. I changed my port from 563 to 443 and now its great. Is cox in AZ throttling 563 now? What should I do if they start throttling 443 also? vpn? I'm not a heavy user at all and I've never had issues with them before.

Hmm. Also with Cox AZ. I was using 443, switched over to 563 to test. No issues so far. Running at my usual steady 2.9MB/s. What provider are you with?

Fcdts26
Mar 18, 2009

PirateDentist posted:

Hmm. Also with Cox AZ. I was using 443, switched over to 563 to test. No issues so far. Running at my usual steady 2.9MB/s. What provider are you with?

Supernews and I also tried it with blocknews. I'll keep messing around with it and see what happens. Happy to hear it might just be something with me.

maniacripper
May 3, 2009
STANNIS BURNS SHIREEN
HIZDAR IS THE HARPY
JON GETS STABBED TO DEATH
DANY FLIES OFF ON DROGON
God drat, downloaded 60 gigs of Linux Distros and every single file is missing like 13mb, not leaving enough parity bits to repair. No one on any of the sites is reporting the NZB is missing bits and I tried random files on both the US and EU Astraweb SSL servers, both give the same result. Am i hosed?

Nam Taf
Jun 25, 2005

I am Fat Man, hear me roar!

You could manually search for individual parts using binsearch or. At a stretch, some other format (torrent, google) and then use a manual par2 repairer?

dj_pain
Mar 28, 2005

Nam Taf posted:

You could manually search for individual parts using binsearch or. At a stretch, some other format (torrent, google) and then use a manual par2 repairer?

Yep. (honestly doesn't everyone do this from time to time ?)

td4guy
Jun 13, 2005

I always hated that guy.

A friend and I just ran into five separate ~8GB posts tonight that were all completely neutered by DMCA requests on Giganews/Supernews. Like each 100MB rar came out to be maybe 1 to 5MB, if they existed at all. I think I'm gonna switch to Astraweb over this.

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EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend
Astraweb is going to be similar. Spend some cash on a backup server that isn't reselling the same service and you should be fine. I use Astraweb and Blocknews and it seems to be working fine.

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