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Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006

I love the succulent taste of cop boots

I got Exchange un-installed. It's been an hour and a half and nothing exploded yet.

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Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

Bless You Ants, Blants



Fun Shoe

What did you do - reinstall and then uninstall?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006

I love the succulent taste of cop boots

Thanks Ants posted:

What did you do - reinstall and then uninstall?

I -think- I did that last time, which was probably the problem:

Get-ExchangeServer would reply back with EX01 and EX02 when I ran the command on EX02. But on EX01, the command only returned EX01

I ran the uninstaller again today, and it bitched about there being one mailbox in the store, 'Bob Morales Admin', which is my admin user that I used to do whatever it was on the box last time. So I removed that, then when the uninstaller asked for the media that the previous admin used to install the SP3 Rollup 29, I pointed it to the Exchange 2010 SP3 ISO I downloaded from MS this morning, and it successfully uninstalled.

Nothing has broke since, I didn't power the 2010 VM down yet but it's not running anything Exchange-related anymore. I don't see anything in the event logs on the 2016 box. Should probably check the logfiles real quick to be sure though.

OWA is working, internal/external mail is going, email volume graphs on our Barracuda archiver and mail gateway look normal...

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Exchange is poo poo.

Outlook is poo poo.

Gonna just spin up a dovecot/postfix server and keep everything in flat text files the way god intended and tell people to use that from now on.

Beefstorm
Jul 20, 2010

"It's not the size of the tower. It's the motion of the airwaves."


Lipstick Apathy

AlternateAccount posted:

Exchange is poo poo.

Outlook is poo poo.

Gonna just spin up a dovecot/postfix server and keep everything in flat text files the way god intended and tell people to use that from now on.

Dude, what are you crazy? Why are you even using email?

Just setup an FTP server, give everyone credentials, and tell everyone to leave messages in there. It's up to the end user to be checking the FTP server for their messages.

Users are responsible enough that you shouldn't need to worry about people checking messages that don't belong to them.

Then, if someone REALLY needs to send an email, it has to be a request to IT. Tell them to upload their message to an email folder, which will be processed and sent by the admin. Ya know, for security. But honestly, it would be better if you could just get your customers and business partners to get on your FTP server too.

Sickening
Jul 15, 2007

BLack Summer was the Best Summer

angry armadillo posted:

So this seems like a reasonable thread to post this:

Managing exchange mailboxes, please tell me how you do it.

It's not my decision on how we do it in our place, but if you haven't read the ticket came in thread, our exchange server died and the CIO wasn't happy with how my line manager, manages mailboxes (say that out loud )

Specifically, we run exchange 2003, it used to be standard edition and we nearly hit the 65gb limit. At this point my boss went round some of the biggest mailboxes and archived all their mail into personal folders on a network share.

The he realised the info store wasn't going down in size because he needed to do an offline defrag. This was going to take longer than a weekend so he never bothered. Eventually we hit the limit and used the email crash as a way of getting an order for exchange 2003 enterprise signed off... So now we pretty much just let users have big mail boxes.

- I'd say we have around 300 users and a mailbox store of 160gb, which from what I have discussed elsewhere isn't that big. However refer to the above about the CIO not being happy - he said he wanted us to reduce it by 50%.

His reasoning will be that he does a lot of work with the company that own us, and because they own us our policies on basically everything have to be in line as possible with theirs - their mailbox policy is 10mb of space each or 40mb if you are an exec. Archive or delete anything else. (though they have around 600k users worldwide, I'm not sure how that breaks down regionally, but I guess that is why they are a touch on the militant side perhaps?)


As much as it isn't my decision on how we change our policy, I can see 'buying enterprise and ignoring the problem' isn't a solution. There is a 'post-server-crash' meeting this week and I'd at least like to look half informed when I open my mouth.


So any knowledge would be appreciated

I don't think anything anyone can say here is going to help you. You are running an exchange version that went end of life 6 years ago. Honestly I am shocked it took that long to go end of life considering that it was over 10 years old at that point.

The reasonable thing to do would be to migrate that to exchange online (o365) but I would also assume you haven't paid for your email system is more than a decade as well and you don't want to start paying for it.

There isn't any productive thing to talk about in your situation besides "migrate to something feasible to support".

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

Bless You Ants, Blants



Fun Shoe

I thought I'd missed something but angry armadillo's post was from 2011.

Sickening
Jul 15, 2007

BLack Summer was the Best Summer

Thanks Ants posted:

I thought I'd missed something but angry armadillo's post was from 2011.

The app must have royally hosed up. I saw 1 update to the post and I swear I replied to that post.

Amazing!

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

Bless You Ants, Blants



Fun Shoe

It's the closest you'll get to reading a post from the archives

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006

I love the succulent taste of cop boots

quote:

their mailbox policy is 10mb of space each

Are they EarthLink, from 1998?

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Bob Morales posted:

Are they EarthLink, from 1998?

its a oops reply post from 2011, so it's not outside of the realm. Everyone had a 2GB hard limit for me for the life my 2010 server (some 5 for VIPs) I do wonder now if angry armadillo ever left that company or spent money on upgrading their mail services.

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik


Last place I left 3 years ago still has their exchange 2010 setup running and accessible. With presumably 100mb mailboxes because there was That Outage One Time because the main employee mail store got corrupted because the CEO’s mailbox was too large.

They’re owned by a German parent company that has a blanket cloud ban....SaaS, IaaS, whatever, it doesn’t matter.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006

I love the succulent taste of cop boots

We have 3GB mailboxes which is pretty small...unless you’re an exec then you get whatever you want

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Bob Morales posted:

unless you’re an exec then you get whatever you want

This could be the title of a lot of threads.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006

I love the succulent taste of cop boots



This message isn't getting out of .biz's network, is it? They are telling me my server is rejecting it based on size but there aren't any traces of it in either my spam filter or my Exchange server. CORP-EX13......biz and UHSDR-EX.....biz are both their mail servers.

Old Binsby
Jun 27, 2014



yeah the rejecting server is in the .biz domain, it probably has a message size restriction on the external send connector not allowing the message to go out. Though you may not spot a message you reject easily in the message tracking logs on your end should it ever make it there - at least, if you're also running Exchange, because iirc those logs don't record rejections based on message size.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012



Fallen Rib

I don't think this is an exchange question, but I have no idea where else to ask this, so.

I bought a vanity domain so I could have a first@lastname.org address. I've been using this for job apps. Recently I used it to send a few personal emails and my friends told me they ended up in spam. Am I loving myself by using this? Anything I can do to prevent my emails from going to spam?

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

Bless You Ants, Blants



Fun Shoe

Have you configured SPF and DKIM properly?

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012



Fallen Rib

I bought the domain together with my Lithium hosting, so it should come preconfigured correctly, but I will double check with them.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003




KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

I bought the domain together with my Lithium hosting, so it should come preconfigured correctly, but I will double check with them.

When you send emails, are you sending them through your hosting providers SMTP server, or using your ISP's SMTP server?

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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012



Fallen Rib

Hosting provider's.

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