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The point and shoot market will be killed off by camera phones within the next 2-3 years so I'd imagine manufacturers are trying to find a new market to sell to. I guess time will tell how successful EVILs will be.
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ThisQuietReverie posted:Man I hope not. The form of taking pictures with a phone feels all off. Unfortunately I think the ability to direct upload to Facebook from cell phones makes it overwhelmingly appealing to the layman. Once camera quality is on par with point and shoots there won't be much reason to have a p&s. Apps like instagram are destroying in the market place. I think trying to build a new kind of market is an interesting strategy for camera manufacturers. No idea how it'll play out though.
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Sep 21, 2011 23:27
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I can sort of see it appealing to a gadget freak who wants the "best in class" which wouldn't happen with a dSLR. That mentality might mean they'd choose an EVIL over an entry level SLR.
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Sep 22, 2011 01:35
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Mannequin posted:There is no question that the point and shoot market has already been affected by cell phones with built-in cameras. However, saying they will be killed off in 2-3 years is a huge leap of faith that I don't buy. For one, while image quality will undoubtedly improve with new cell phones, so will that of the point & shoots. Second, assuming a phone of this caliber exists in 2-3 years only a small- or mid-sized portion of the population will actually have it -- not enough to "kill" the point and shoot. (Consider the price of phones, cost of the phone plans, the economy.) Third, there is still a need for an actual camera that acts and performs like a camera, by people who prefer to shoot this way. Sure, this group of people may be dwindling down as the years go by, but I can't imagine a complete transformation within 3 years. There are also other variables to consider, like the older generation who don't make the connection between phone and camera, and will always have one of each to perform these functions, or children, who will be given cameras as gifts, and later cell phones to keep in contact. But the camera will come first. And damnit, some things you just can't cram into a phone well enough that it mirrors the way present cameras work. It's not just about having the right sensor, it's about having the controls. Oh yeah, 2-3 years was probably too short. It is the internet, I'm obligated to not put that much thought into what I'm saying. I'd say it'd be closer to 10 years rather than 20. I'd disagree with you in regards to how cameras work today - overwhelmingly cameras are just a third party into getting pictures on Facebook. It's almost terrifying to see a visual representation of how dominant Facebook is with regards to images on the internet. Everyone is signing up to Facebook. Only the much much older generation are really avoiding Facebook entirely - and nobody cares about their camera habits anymore. People have overwhelmingly shifted to using cameras with an LCD screen held away from their face in the past 6-8 years. They'll get used to new generation camera phones soon enough. The real killer app for the consumer camera market would be to hook onto a mobile network and auto upload your photos to Facebook. Not even bother with a memory card but just have internal flash storage. I think EVILs are an interesting way for camera manufacturers to create a new market - because interchangeable lenses are going to be the one thing you'll never find on a P&S and the EVILs are going to make it seem more friendly and less "pro" to the casual user to buy into a friendly and simple system. Look at how often people come into the gear threads here confused and bewildered by the amount of lens choices. With these you could just say "buy x and y" because that's really all that's available.
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Sep 22, 2011 23:40
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Shmoogy posted:If you go to any events and see people taking photographs (I guess 12-30 year olds mostly) I'd say that the odds are that almost all of them are using a cell phone rather than a point & shoot. Yeah that's the graphic I was thinking of when I said that. Thanks for grabbing it. I'm a bit surprised that none of the big three manufacturers have gone with a "Facebook" camera.
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Beastruction posted:It does tend to result in greater satisfaction. It doesn't matter if there are 5 or 50 or 500 options if you can't pick out the one that's best for you Yeah, exactly. A smaller system is much less daunting for someone who is just buying a "good" camera for the first time. Look at the first time consumers posting on this forum that are torn between zooms, primes not to mention third party manufacturers and do they need and L lens blah blah. You have so many varying reviews and experiences with each lens that it's hard to achieve any kind of consensus. Having a system that has very clear options is definitely attractive to an electronics consumer. The Nikon EVILs aren't designed for anyone that posts on an internet forum about photography. The x100 is.
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