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OK I have a blog, haven't touched it for months. Even time I am reminded of it I hate myself a little bit mor. I am sending money to godaddy for nothing. And since the holiday is close I have nothing to do at work, I thought I will update my blog a little bit. I am reposting the interesting tadbits here, figure its useful information. So I had a Canon QL17 II rangefinder for a few years, like this one.  I forgot to took pictures before I sent it to a feller. He did a nice conversion for me, here it is.  Here it is what it looks like on the NEX  Here it is with the Konica AR 40mm 1.8 (w/ the NEX adapter) on the right.  I also got a Minox 35 lens from that guy. He converted it to CCTV C-mount. So I have to get a NEX-C adapter first. This full frame lens is mind blowingly small. Looking forward to try it out. A quite walk around test showed that the QL17 II lens is not particularly sharp. But the boheh is very smooth in vast majority of the time. Even f/2.0 is very usable. Focus throw is short. Minimum focus distance is short at 30cm, but I can literally unscrew the front half of the lens out if object is too close. I have to put a stopper there when I have time. Its pretty bad shooting against light, I doubt the lens has coating on it. The gen 2 version of QL17 was made in very short period of time before the gen 3 came out. So this lens is 40 years old. The rangefinder was not in great shape when I sent it in. I am glad the good bits can keep rocking in front of modern sensor. This one is taken at f/2  I did some more testing shoots over the weekend. What I have found really interesting impressive about the lens is that how smooth the mid range bokeh is. I can have a portroit face in the background out of foucs and I will get a smooth rendering in almost any distant. Also, compare to my Konica AR 40/1.8, the f/1.7 f/2 is more usable. The Konica IME is a sharper lens in smaller aperture and in infinity, but f/1.8 is pretty useless to me. I get the halo type brightness on the focus point, I don't know what to call them. Here is a few more photos that showcase front and rear bokeh of teh QL17II at close distant.    
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HPL posted:Except for the whole affordable prime debacle that is the NEX system as discussed earlier. Like I said, if Sony had a $400 30mm f/2 NEX pancake, it would be no contest. I think you should buy a NEX3 or even the Samsung NX100 for now. Either one can be had for $200 on ebay. Bigger sensor is always better than smaller sensor. Bigger sensor will make MF lenses more useful. Save your money for the Fuji EVIL system. It will come out with a 18mm (28mm equiv.) right off the bat. Any MF you use on the NEX can be reused on the Fuji with the same focal length. For example, you buy a 55mm/1.4 MF lens now, it will work as portrait lens for both NEX and Fuji. m4/3 is not an ambitious system. I don't know why people invest in it. You spend 2 grand you pretty much max out the top ceiling of the system and there is no space to grow. You want to grow you have to change system. Plus Panasonic sensors is at lease 1-2 years behind the competitions. Look at the m4/3 vs. J1/V1 DxO scores. Personally I think the Koreans has better color reproduction than m4/3 sensors.
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Dec 21, 2011 03:07
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Alright guys. I will summarize my 2X vs. 1.5X mirrorless systems argument in these points. I think these are my main points to argue against the m43 system. The other points are not that important. For example, I am not going to argue which one can be used to make great photos becasue you can make great photo with any gear. This thread exist for people to discuss the hardware and the ecosystems. * Not counting the Nikon 1 systems, IMO Panasonic sensors are the weakest. My main problem is that I think the color reproduction is the least realistic compare to the others. I personality don't care about pixel count or even dynamic range. High ISO I do care. * The initial saving you make from the m43 system doesn't reflect the picture IQ sacrifice you make. If the m43 system is consistantly 15-20% cheaper than the competing APS systems then I have no problem with buying into m43. The mid and high end m43 lenses are overpriced. Plus Olympus has a bad habit of ripping off the early adapters. If and when Panasonic release the new 12-35mm 2.8 next year and its let's say under $800 from Adorama then I will re-evaluate the m43 system cost. * Lastly and most importantly. the 1.5X sensor is an industry standard, its much easier to adapte non-NEX gear to use on a NEX body. The backward and forward competibility is very friendly. For example, I have a Tokina 11-16 in Nikon mount. I think its the best ultra wide zoom in the APS land, period. It's very easy for me to adapte it to a APS mirrorless system. Now you may not have any APS lens when you start out your EVIL system, but you may eventually grow out of it and want more. The whole industry, specially the 3rd party ones has been making lenses optimize for the APS format in the last 10+ years. Being able to use the whole APS image circle make your money go a lot further. Plus, Sony has been making APS sensor for Nikon since forever. Any new sensor technology these 2 companies have will triggle down to a NEX body. The 5n sensor is a prime example of this R&D synergy. Not only does it have good high ISO, it also has microlens to correct corner CA. Leica rangefinder lenses, including the cheaper Voigtlandar ones work great on it. As for weakness. NEX does have the weakness of not having any pancake (I will just go ahead and ignore the 16mm). But then again the NX system has pancakes.
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Dec 22, 2011 17:15
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HPL posted:The thing is that even if Fuji does release a good camera, it'll be expensive out of the gate, you probably won't be able to get one for months before the supply settles out and the lens selection will be minimal at best, especially since the third party adapter makers won't have had a chance to establish themselves yet. Plus you have to take into consideration that the firmware won't be mature until a while after the initial release so in total you'll probably be looking at a year or so until it's to the point where it's a dead lock purchase. If Fuji can keep the mirrorless body price cost to X100 I would be in like flint. The Fuji camera can justify the higher cost with better viewfinder, better color and lower pixel. I don't expect the price of N7 drop to reasonable level until fall 2012, due to the Thailand flood.
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Dec 24, 2011 03:09
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Pompous Rhombus posted:I think the NEX-7 is priced pretty reasonably for the amount of camera you get. I mean, I'd be happy if it was cheaper, but I don't think it's outrageous. I am talking about the 2K+ real world price, not the listed price.
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Dec 24, 2011 03:58
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keyframe posted:Jesus is that what they are selling it for on the street? Isn't the list price like 1200$? It will go up stay there for a few months once the pre-Thailand flood batch run out. China is the one of the first countries to sell it, you have to buy the e24 bundle. Its about 2700 USD from the official distributor.
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Dec 24, 2011 13:04
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Pompous Rhombus posted:It's been vaguely hinted at for a while now on SAR. I don't really get how it's supposed to take NEX lenses and Alpha natively given the different register distances, unless it comes bundled with that adapter or something. A full frame NEX body will never come out. Each full frame prime lens will start at 500+. Fuji is the only Japanese company that's Boutique enough to start a more expensive premium system. If they are not using a larger sensor format, then nobody else is going to make and sell a system that cost you 2 grand for the body and a kit lens. These xxxrumors websites are full of poo poo. Most of them are just recycling fake rumors from xitek. I was really hoping for a 1.3X sensor from Fuji but it looks like they are staying with APS. OK after Fuji there is really two guys that can make a premium FF system. Leica and Zeiss. Let's face it, even if these guys make it I doubt I will be able to afford it. When the Contax G2 system was available, the lens price was very comparable with the manual Zeiss lens prices of today. Although I think there is certainly a market for FF mirrorless camera. Zeiss need to secure a long term FF sensor contract to make one. whatever7 fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Dec 25, 2011 |
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Dec 25, 2011 04:09
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Bob Socko posted:I suspect we will see a mirrorless full-frame from Sony, though it would be an A-mount (or this bizarre hybrid mount idea). The biggest criticism of SLT technology is light loss due to the mirror, and the mirror is there to provide phase detection autofocus. Here is a link to Sony's patents for on-sensor PDAF, which would eliminate the SLT mirror. It's the realistic next step for Sony. Once the GXR PK mount module come out, which Ricoh have said they will make, you will realize how bad an idea that is. Most of the body will be taken up by the empty adapter tube. alkanphel posted:Well Leica's mirrorless FF is already the M9 so that just leaves Zeiss, which said in an interview they don't ever intend to make cameras again. I think the current Zeiss Ikon is the only camera that they'll "make". I'd love to see a digital FF version of the Zeiss Ikon but I doubt it will ever happen. They seem to be firmly entrenched in making lenses and I think even their focus on lens is slowly shifting over to cine lenses. Some Japanese company can still buy Zeiss and start making FF mirrorless system. Or they can license out the Contax name again like Kyrocea did. I hope whoever do that also license out the in-sensor AF technology from Nikon, it will make AF alot faster. Now I wonder who share the same finance group with Nikon. Nikon belongs to the Mitsubishi Keiretsu, Sony and Fujifilm belongs to another (Mitshi), I don't know Kyrcera or Cosina belongs to which Keiretsu. Hard to google this poo poo. whatever7 fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Dec 25, 2011 |
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Dec 25, 2011 19:21
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Cacator posted:But when does the size during use matter? You aren't going to store a camera while a zoom lens is extended. It does matter if you want to snap a shots without the street object notice. That's why I use rangefinder lens. Also, the new Tamron 18-200 for NEX is smaller than the Sony one. Somebody need to do a size comparo between this lens, the Panasonic 15-150, and whatever the 10X lens is for Nikon 1.
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Dec 28, 2011 03:09
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HPL , how do you compare the workflow of gong through Adobe lightroom and the tools your using now?. Each one has the easiest batch processing procesure if you want to go through RAW and noice reduction?
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Dec 28, 2011 20:04
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Medusula posted:Need to make a gear decision. Panasonic Lumix DMC-GF3 Vs Sony NEX C3 GF2 is better and cheaper than GF3. Picking between GF2 and C3 depends on your lens budget and focal length pteference.
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Dec 29, 2011 17:58
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Nerf Herder posted:Hey guys, I just got a NEX 5k with the 18-55mm lens. I'm looking around for a couple of good in expensive lenses. I know that this means no auto focus. I made a post about MF lenses in the Sony thread. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3174820&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=19 Scroll to the bottom.
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God drat it. I was hoping for a lensless version of X100. This body reminds me of Leica S2. Its too retro looking. And by "retro", I mean this camera look loving expensive.
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Jan 3, 2012 22:44
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HPL posted:I'm highly skeptical about a FF mirrorless from Sony because it would throw their NEX lens line into chaos. You would need an entirely new mount for FF NEX and to have three different mounts for one company is madness. If Sony can come out with a good lineup of lenses in the next year and sensor improvements, the move to FF will be moot. At this point, aside from dick waving, is there really a point in making a FF mirrorless if you can get fantastic performance out of an APS-C sensor? A FF sensor will automatically give a power-up on all you existing MF lenses. I don't think there is a market for mirrorless FF either. At least not for Sony. If the FF market is so hot Sony wouldn't discontinue the a900 and a850 without announcing a new FF DSLR. BTW if the NEX mount is big enough for FF sony would have made a much more traditional 50/1.8, to compliment a future 50/1.4. But this NEX 50/1.8 is essentually a ghetto portrait lens that fill the roll of a FF 85/1.8. Obviously none of these NEX primes are designed with FF focal length in mind. whatever7 fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Jan 4, 2012 |
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Jan 4, 2012 04:50
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HPL posted:I was just reflecting on my recent shooting experience with an EVF-less camera and I got to thinking that since I started doing that, I've been shooting at a greater variety of angles than I used to because the camera isn't pinned to my head anymore. Is anyone else finding the same thing? If I am shooting with a wide angle lens, I still prefer OVF/EVF. Pictures look more nature if I take them at eye level. But LCD has very accurate bokeh and DOF preview. whatever7 fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jan 4, 2012 |
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Rontalvos posted:I wear sunglasses whenever I'm outside for more than a few minutes and the LCD on my NEX-5 is nearly impossible to see with polarized lenses on. It drives me nuts. You don't need to glasses for EVF even if you are shortsighted.
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Jan 4, 2012 23:12
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Pockyless posted:Is it wrong that I am thinking about buying this and keeping an x100 just because of the 35mm equiv.? The Japanese sure know how to get your money. Thats why Fujifilm is not the one filling chapter 11 right now. I am planning to dual wield myself. I plan to shoot with a NEX3 and a DP-1 now and slowly upgrade to NEX5n and a Fuji or NEX7.
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Jan 5, 2012 17:53
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HPL posted:Just got the NEX 16mm f/2.8 lens from an eBay seller in Korea for around $150 with shipping. They sell lenses pulled from kits or something so they're brand new, just without the fancy packaging. The lens is so light it's ridiculous. It definitely takes the NEX from "Yeah, it's pretty small" to "Holy crap, I can't believe I'm holding an APS-C camera". I don't know why the E16 is more expensive in the US. But in Asia is a lot cheaper. You can buy one new under 750rmb ($120). Thats why I haven't brought mine. And I have brought the loving ECU1 already.
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Jan 7, 2012 03:54
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So the pancake lens is the 18mm. I think I will only buy that one and keep my 28mm and up lens in AIS mount. That way I can move on to Canon or Nikon full frame if I want. Is the hotshoe same as the S5Pro hotshoe? whatever7 fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Jan 8, 2012 |
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poopinmymouth posted:I was intrigued till I read that the sensor size is gutted by the way slower lens, and at the long end, wide open, the slower lens ends up with the same DoF as on the X10 because of it's much faster lens speed. Not to mention that the VF on the G1X still looks like unuseable poo poo compared to the nice large bright one of the X10 I don't know about that. If you do the math, G1X still has noticable better DOF control and low light performance than the X10. Now id you prefer Fuji color is a different story. whatever7 fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Jan 9, 2012 |
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Jan 9, 2012 21:58
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poopinmymouth posted:DPreview claims they did the math and where I got the quote from. F5.8 on a 4/3s sized sensor is about what the X10 at 2.8 is. So G1X at wide end has about 1 step better DOF than X1 , edit: and at the tele end 1 step worst DOF control? whatever7 fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jan 9, 2012 |
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HPL posted:If money weren't an issue, I would seriously consider switching over to a NEX 7 and LA-EA2 adapter for serious stuff and rangefinder or NEX lenses for travel and loving around. If money is not an issue, the Fuji body is still noticibly better than N7. Fuji has OVF Fuji has AF and small 28mm and 50mm lenses (equivalent) ; Sony has only one 35mm lens (equivalent). All the other Sony lenses are jokes. Why the hell did they make a 50mm APS lens? it's too long for a standard and too short for portroit. Plus they all look like soda cans. All those Voigtlander M lenses will look better on the Fuji. Also sensor is slightly better. The fuji sensor should have better high ISO and better contrast for lower resolution. whatever7 fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Jan 10, 2012 |
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I really don't care about the resolution of the EVF. Does any one know if you can one-button zoom in with the EVF. That's crucial for MF.
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Jan 10, 2012 03:36
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^^ Good to hear More XPro1 porn    
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Jan 10, 2012 03:52
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ease posted:Could someone make a Canon lens adapter with electronics that allows you to control aperture? Either on the adapter itself, or through some kind of conversion to whatever the NEX has for control of it? You can make one to control aperture but it will cost 150 and you might as well buy a MF lens from a different mount. As for AF, I am pretty sure all AF mounts are patent to the yingyang. You have to reverse engineer like Sigma did. Canon lens has no synergy with other mirrorless systems. You have to pray for Canon to make one.
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For those people who own a NEX-3 or NEX-5, I am sure everyone of you have a motherfucking disgusting LCD cover like mine.  I followed the instruction in this page and replaced mine with some fancy Chinese knock off screen protector. This thing is really hard.   (back of the cover)I just want to let you guys know its very easy to apply. It's much easier than a regular phone screen protector. You see the LCD screen is recess slightly so you can slot the hard cover right on to it. voila  JYC NEX-3C screen protector $3 bucks on ebay.
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Jan 11, 2012 05:57
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Skam posted:has anyone bought a spare battery for there nex? I got a 5n competible cheap battery on ebay and it work as well as the original. I have since lost the original and I haven't brought a third one, becuase I haven't had an situation that let me use the whole battery in one day. whatever7 fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Jan 11, 2012 |
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Jan 11, 2012 16:53
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ease posted:That's cool. I see bargain NEX3s on ebay all the time with similar looking screens. When the screen is on you dont notice it But its a matter of principle. I also black out the chrome mount to make it less ricy. I got this NEX3 on ebay too. $220 shipping.
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Does these lenses offer full time MF during AF?
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HPL posted:I doubt anyone is going to release an open software camera. It's not good for business if people can hack in new features as opposed to buying another camera. Mirrorless is just the next thing like how SLRs were the next thing after rangefinders. It's good for photographers, but its not good for the Japanese photography monopoly. You see people don't want to admit that consumer photography is a monopoly and all the Japanese brands sleep together under the table. Just take a take at how fast some key techs were shared within the "big four" and now the "big seven" and you know all the Japanese work together to scam your money. Let's say somebody make a truly open platform, a body with open mount design that can runs third party apps. As long as an open platform is available, somebody in China will make electric mount adapters that can control EF and F lenses properly. Reverse engineering is not the problem, Sigma has done it. Making it legally might be a problem. I think is possible for a charismatic American to start a platform like that. For example, that Oakley glasses dude. You know what I want my future camera to do? When I go out in the midday, it should be smart enough to set itself the "Image Quality priority", in other words, stay as close to F/8 as possible. When its indoor, it should be smart enough to change itself to "Minimum shutter speed priority". These ideas are really easy to implement if 3rd party software is allowed on cameras.
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Jan 14, 2012 04:12
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dissss posted:Auto mode on most cameras already does just that (or at least attempts to) But I want to set what the minimum shutter speed is, I don't want to close eye and pray. Have you play FF12? I want a priority setting list like that with conditional parameters.
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HPL posted:Just got an Olympus-to-NEX tilt adapter. This thing is a lot of fun. How's the wide open performance? My 40mm 1.9 (taken from a QL19) also flares like a bitch but the bokeh is good.
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Jan 15, 2012 04:40
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HPL posted:Depends on the light. If the light is lower, then it's good in the middle, soft at the edges. If the light is strong, it all goes to hell with flare, purple fringing, chromatic aberration and what not. It would be a good portrait lens. Almost gives a sort of tilt effect. This is a CCTV lens right? Do you get double line ghosting from the bokeh? I would have spend the money on a Konica AR 40/1.8. It's pretty sharp lens.
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HPL posted:Still, I'd expect any current APS-C sensor to out-perform the M8 and with fewer issues. I find it not very accurate. Zoom-in feel much more accurate to me.
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Jan 16, 2012 23:27
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5n/3c has noticeable better low light performance. I would recommend the c3/5n plus the kit lens. If they want really good AF performance Nikon 1 probably has the best right now. I wouldn't recommend the s100 since they already return a P&S. Also let them know that shooting baby indoor is one of the very demanding tasks for photography equipment. Don't expect 500 is a lot of money. whatever7 fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jan 17, 2012 |
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iioshius posted:I just bought a new Olympus PEN PL3, and I have what I suspect is a very dumb question. I'm new to the photography thing, so please forgive me. You need a macro lens. As far as mounting MF lens backward you might want to ask that question in the macro thread. Its for very specific application and you have to buy specific adapters and lens.
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At least Olympus stuff an EVF in it, unlike Panasonic, who just repackage the GF1 and call it a day. Beside the 12mm, is there any retro looking m43 lens?
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Radbot posted:Apologies for reposting this if I am, but I was checking Flickr for photos taken with legacy lenses on M4/3 cameras and I came across this thing called PinWide. Apparently it's a pinhole adapter for M4/3rd cameras that, judging by the sample photos, looks pretty cool. It's $40 freakin' bucks, though. Why don't you poke a hole in a body cap?
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You got an example of the fancy high-tech pinhole photography? Call me a grumpy old man I don't understand the point of a sharp pinhole image.
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Mightaswell posted:"So basically to make this camera look like an OM it must have a fake pentaprism casing, because an EVF camera doesnt have a pentaprism. The most important thing is the fake winder lever like that Epson camera. Pentax's new EVIL will have the giant empty mirror box thing anyway since they are going to keep the mount. whatever7 fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Jan 23, 2012 |
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