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staberind
Feb 20, 2008

Klomping endlessly thru the gray void...




Fun Shoe

Why do I keep expecting to see Chris Morris pop up on that show, it like a caricature. of what, I'm uncertain.

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Devian666
Aug 19, 2008

Take some advice Chris.



Fun Shoe

You know everything about this is terrible. They should have someone looking after the camera and audio rather than having every dipshit in front of the camera. The fat retarded guy who bought in at $27 should be there for jizmopping only.

Basically the interview is with the "email guy" who's only been answering emails for two weeks. Why would you have a two week employee involved in any media relations. Everything about this is incredibly stupid. I can't wait until they're all arrested.

Cosmopolitan
Apr 20, 2007

Rard sele this wai -->

gnarlyhotep posted:

Especially since we've already got hours of video interviews, painfully detailing these chucklefucks. For those who missed the latest trainwreck:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0XvP841jaM

Once more we see Bruce at the top of his interviewer game.

I know this has been said many times in this thread already, but Jesus loving Christ, this is the most ridiculously amateurish production I've ever seen. I've seen higher production quality from my loving high school's TV broadcasting class. They literally figure out how to use the equipment during the show. They ostensibly don't even have any questions prepared; they're basically just asking the random questions people ask in the chat room.

What do these people do for a living?

Reiley
Dec 16, 2007



Millstone posted:

Constant volume problems, cameras in demo mode, audio distorted, fat hosts, laggy Skype calls, lovely chairs, cameras left on for hours after the broadcast, Diet Coke -- this is The Bitcoin Show.

Face-tracker rectangles was the best part of the whole presentation, in my opinion. Targeting the show's guest and presenter, who is actively banning people from a chatroom while interviewing the man who brought financial trade market Magic: the Gathering Online Exchange to its knees.

gnarlyhotep
Sep 30, 2008



Oven Wrangler

Reiley posted:

Face-tracker rectangles was the best part of the whole presentation, in my opinion. Targeting the show's guest and presenter, who is actively banning people from a chatroom while interviewing the man who brought financial trade market Magic: the Gathering Online Exchange to its knees.

OH no no no, my friend. This isn't the Kevin's Not The Hacker Interview. This is a new interview, with the CEO of mtgox and his right-hand buttcoiner. It's great stuff.

e: My favorite part was when they said they're going to require proof of account ownership, such as "a bank statement" (their words). Atlas is going to blow a gasket.

Oh, and these two guys are going to do all user support, 24/7, by themselves. They actually say that.

Power Walrus
Dec 23, 2003



Fun Shoe

This has to be the dumbest loving way of losing loads of money. When you buy cinder block speakers you at least get the cardboard box. Jesus Christ.

What's happening to the people who boasted loading all of their assets into this idiot trap? What dark, sweaty, desperate stress pit are these creatures living in now?

Devian666
Aug 19, 2008

Take some advice Chris.



Fun Shoe

The owner started talking and I closed the tab. I'd had enough by that point.

Rudager
Apr 29, 2008


The gently caress is the point of this 24/7 live webcam OnlyOneTV has going?

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008



Ham Wrangler

Power Walrus posted:

This has to be the dumbest loving way of losing loads of money. When you buy cinder block speakers you at least get the cardboard box. Jesus Christ.

And cinder blocks! You can use those to make shelves and stuff.


Rudager posted:

The gently caress is the point of this 24/7 live webcam OnlyOneTV has going?

Transparency. They have nothing to hide.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005


Power Walrus posted:

What dark, sweaty, desperate stress pit are these creatures living in now?

Just tune into The Bitcoin Show and see for yourself.

text editor
Jan 8, 2007



Angela Christine posted:

Transparency. They have nothing to hide.

Not even large, gross bellies

duck monster
Dec 15, 2004



http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=20427.0

quote:


I wish I had never left my money on mybitcoin... Used the same password as my mtgox... Stupid? Yes, very stupid.

I won't divulge the exact amount, but it was pretty substantial as I am one (was one?) of the early adopters. Happened at 10AM this morning, coins went to this address: 1MAazCWMydsQB5ynYXqSGQDjNQMN3HFmEu

Sad

Anyone else in the same boat? Just looking for some people to commiserate with...

4000BTC. The forum thinks thats $100K USD.

If its any consolation to the guy, at one point yesterday the exchange rate means it was a loss of $4USD

Bitcoins are a currency backed by the tears of objectivists.

Rockybar
Sep 3, 2008



duck monster posted:

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=20427.0


4000BTC. The forum thinks thats $100K USD.

If its any consolation to the guy, at one point yesterday the exchange rate means it was a loss of $4USD

Bitcoins are a currency backed by the tears of objectivists.

Here's a slightly more disheartening post from little further on:

quote:


Once they make their way to Mt Gox and are sold, ask them to roll back all the trades then work with their liaison at the FBI to recover the bitcoin for you.  Word is they're going to set that precedent so no worries.

Don't worry folks! The good 'ol FBI, whose intention is to continue bit coin at any cost I might add, will simply do a chargeback on the bitcoin accounts! Then all your money will be refunded and...oh wait.

YHWH
May 17, 2011


ASK ME ABOUT BUYING A PEANUTS AVATAR IN AN ATTEMPT TO PRETEND TO BE AN FYAD


The Bitcoin Show's EVERY day at 14:00 EDT time, right? I'd love to join you guys when it's live.

El Goatherd
Jun 25, 2005

hate is art


duck monster posted:

Ayn rand definately DID want to have a state.

Well obviously. If there was no state she wouldn't have been able to get her welfare monies.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



I didn't see it mentioned in the thread but NPR's economics podcast Planet Money is going to do an episode about BitCoins. I would guess that they're trying to wait for the story to play out before running it but that should be a good one.

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?





College Slice

Sounds like a This American Life episode to me. Or that really hipster one, you know, that one.

gnarlyhotep
Sep 30, 2008



Oven Wrangler

Just want to point this out: when asked why he thought someone would want to hack mtgox, the CEO's answer was, and I quote: "FOR THE LULZ?"

Millstone
Dec 20, 2007

This is some text that is fake
and furthermore I would like to
drive my bike up your ass today.

Touching myself is lots of fun
although I am not very good at it.

Archduke posted:

The Bitcoin Show's EVERY day at 14:00 EDT time, right? I'd love to join you guys when it's live.

It's been on at 2pm and 10pm and basically whenever they feel like it

gnarlyhotep
Sep 30, 2008



Oven Wrangler

Millstone posted:

It's been on at 2pm and 10pm and basically whenever they feel like it

Yeah, Bruce and Ed rented a whole studio on 5th Ave in NYC to produce this. Not kidding.

Amarkov
Jun 21, 2010


El Goatherd posted:

Well obviously. If there was no state she wouldn't have been able to get her welfare monies.

In all seriousness though, Rand did recognize that any rational human would want at least a heavily limited government, because otherwise there is nothing preventing brutes from forcibly taking your stuff and/or killing you. If the person who made a living off of FYGM the philosophy, recognized the necessity of government, people need to be really really careful before presenting no government as a desirable idea.

duck monster
Dec 15, 2004



Amarkov posted:

In all seriousness though, Rand did recognize that any rational human would want at least a heavily limited government, because otherwise there is nothing preventing brutes from forcibly taking your stuff and/or killing you. If the person who made a living off of FYGM the philosophy, recognized the necessity of government, people need to be really really careful before presenting no government as a desirable idea.

She also approved of those governments invading and killing people from what she dubbed "savage" cultures like muslims or american indians.

Amarkov
Jun 21, 2010


duck monster posted:

She also approved of those governments invading and killing people from what she dubbed "savage" cultures like muslims or american indians.

Honestly, I just treat anything that has direct connections to something America did as just an expression of Cold War patriotism. It's pretty clear she said a lot of things not because she thought they followed from A=A but because , and it seems not entirely fair to point at them as anything except personal failings.

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.


duck monster posted:

She also approved of those governments invading and killing people from what she dubbed "savage" cultures like muslims or american indians.

Just as a side-note: I'm always mystified how the genocide, destruction of knowledge/culture, and atrocity western europeans commit always seems to get a free pass in judgements of 'savagery.'

Fitting though because I basically view Ayn Rand as a savage.

Edit: I was being rhetorical. But to anyone with half a brain it's patently obvious that accusations of savagery are just a sick joke - that's why I keep getting mystified by how many people fall for the bullshit.
VVVVV

gnarlyhotep
Sep 30, 2008



Oven Wrangler

Times posted:

Just as a side-note: I'm always mystified how the genocide, destruction of knowledge/culture, and atrocity western europeans commit always seems to get a free pass in judgements of 'savagery.'

Because the victor writes the history.

e: which is why I'm overjoyed that we can now have video of idiots doing stupid poo poo and admitting to it on the internet, where nothing ever goes away

Rockybar
Sep 3, 2008



duck monster posted:

She also approved of those governments invading and killing people from what she dubbed "savage" cultures like muslims or american indians.

When Rand was a child, she had all her family's property and wealth taken by the The Bolsheviks, under Lenin. So that's got to make you hate Communism. Also there's a video clip where she tries to rationalise her dubbing of certain cultures as savages.


edit \/\/\/\/ well the intro screen would be much better if the bitcoin exploded into the souls of helpless nerds when it hit the logo.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009



Lipstick Apathy

OnlyOneTV is amazingly lovely. Live feed of a camera in a darkened room, lower quality than a local tv station, no real content, they're supposedly a media website but they host all their videos offsite on YouTube and they can't even organize their duties, leaving the host moderating the chat while he's in the middle of an interview. The only non-bitcoin video on the site is whatever this is.

Their only marketable skill seems to be creating animations for their site logo and tv show intro (though I wouldn't be surprised if they hired a freelancer to do it) and they thought they'd build a media empire with just that and their love of bitcoins.

Rudager
Apr 29, 2008


Unguided posted:

Their only marketable skill seems to be creating animations for their site logo and tv show intro (though I wouldn't be surprised if they hired a freelancer to do it) and they thought they'd build a media empire with just that and their love of bitcoins.

One of their sponsors is an internet video advertising company

gnarlyhotep
Sep 30, 2008



Oven Wrangler

Unguided posted:

Their only marketable skill seems to be creating animations for their site logo and tv show intro (though I wouldn't be surprised if they hired a freelancer to do it) and they thought they'd build a media empire with just that and their love of bitcoins.

Just so everybody is caught up:


Bruce and Ed:
They are the ones who rented a huge studio in NYC to produce videos about buttcoins, but with an eye toward doing more hard-hitting journalism. They are morons, but very amusing to watch.
They're the ones who run the video channel which is up 24/7 no matter what, and host the very popular buttcoin interviews.


Mark and Adam:
These are the geniuses behind MtGox. Mark (aka the French guy) is the "CEO", Adam is the, uh...not sure what he is. He talks sometimes but mostly looks confused. Both of them are currently located in Tokyo.

e: OH AND THEY'RE WORKING ON GETTING MTGOX BACK UP AGAIN DON'T WORRY

My PIN is 4826
Aug 30, 2003



Fallen Rib

I don't understand how bitcoin manages to stay afloat on the other exchanges right now. The UK exchange (Britcoin) is selling 1 BTC for the rough equivalent of $15 right now, for example.

Danzou
Oct 24, 2010

by angerbot


Tradehill (The largest exchange with MtG: OX closed) posted ~120 BTC traded in the past 24 hours. There's no real volume to speak of.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here


Mt Gox has 95% of the Bitcoin market and is currently locked down. There simply aren't any bitcoins out there to trade right now.

duck monster
Dec 15, 2004



Rockybar posted:

When Rand was a child, she had all her family's property and wealth taken by the The Bolsheviks, under Lenin. So that's got to make you hate Communism. Also there's a video clip where she tries to rationalise her dubbing of certain cultures as savages.

Oh well, I didn' know that. I guess hating communists is a free pass to wanting to exterminate inferior races. Much like hitler really.

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010


quote:

For all those willing to sue Mt.Gox because we will be making trades void, please remember that criminality usually falls under "force majeure" by its externality (not like we would have ever wanted that), unpredictability and irresistibility (we resisted most hack attempts, this one was "strong" enough to go through).

quote:

Now don't be so selfish and stop trying to claim benefits you generated from nothing by abusing an extraordinary situation. I appreciate all the attention and all the mail about lawsuits, threats and more, but I'd prefer being working on "Stuff that MattersŪ".

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?...56505#msg256505

MT has an interesting definition of "unpredictable" given that they knew about various MtGox vulnerabilities including the fact that their database had been hacked and leaked. I'm not sure how reasonable their claim of externality is either given that they're claiming it was someone associated with their audit process who compromised the account.

I suspect that he'll get a lot of support in the BTC forum but it's good to see people having to confront the issue of what rules should apply in an unregulated environment. It would be kind of funny if the exchange itself turns out to be an illegal entity upon further investigation.

Superrodan
Nov 27, 2007


Regardless, the moment the exchange opens up again it should be fun to watch everyone try to cash out at once.

Gorilla Salad
Sep 22, 2003

There's no problem that can't be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts


Bread Liar

frumpykvetchbot posted:

I don't understand what is going on, but it is epic, and I want it to never stop.



Millstone posted:

This is the future of technology.





This is from a dozen pages back (this thread moved FAST) and now I have to try to explain to my friends why I'm laughing hysterically over a picture of a couple guys in a bland room with a camera's demo mode display overlaying the image.

Rockybar
Sep 3, 2008



duck monster posted:

Oh well, I didn' know that. I guess hating communists is a free pass to wanting to exterminate inferior races. Much like hitler really.

Here's the video clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHS...feature=related

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008



Ham Wrangler

Gorilla Salad posted:

This is from a dozen pages back (this thread moved FAST) and now I have to try to explain to my friends why I'm laughing hysterically over a picture of a couple guys in a bland room with a camera's demo mode display overlaying the image.

It isn't just a bland room, it is apparently a studio. Dudes rented a studio. Never learned to operate cameras though. Pro.

TheBandOffice
Nov 4, 2009


Atlas reaches out to the bitcoin community for help:


Even when not discussing bitcoins this forum is just...odd.

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gnarlyhotep
Sep 30, 2008



Oven Wrangler

TheBandOffice posted:

Atlas reaches out to the bitcoin community for help:


Even when not discussing bitcoins this forum is just...odd.

Atlas needs a parent to love him, very badly. Poor kid.

e: \/\/\/ YOU GOT YOUR EXISTENTIALISM IN MY MAUDLIN!

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