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theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008


frumpsnake posted:

Also remember that he's been with Ed (age: 42) for 17 years.

Heh - he used to call his network "bredtv"

Bruce and Ed. How ADORABLE.

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Sneakums
Nov 27, 2007
MAXIMUM.SNEAK.

theflyingorc posted:

Heh - he used to call his network "bredtv"

Bruce and Ed. How ADORABLE.

There was blog with "episodes" of him and Ed just talking about random poo poo. I'll post it here.

http://bredtv.wordpress.com/category/bredtv-com-love/
Last show was on June 26th of 2010. Maybe thats when he found out about bitcoins?

From the ustream at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bruce...e-from-new-york :

quote:

Better than a double espresso on coffee ice cream… Bruce and Ed serve up a daily jolt of fun, news, humor, topical conversation, silliness, insight, and topical ointments (just kidding)… Bruce and Ed – aka “Bred” – bring on a diverse variety of special guests to join the round-table discussions as well. Now, remember, this is a “coffee chat reality show” — which is a fancy way of saying, we know it’s not perfect… it’s “reality”. It’s not supposed to look produced. It’s spontaneous and casual. The show is live-to-tape… which means you can watch it any time you want… But… Because it’s also aired live while being taped… you can join in the conversation too. Just join the live chatroom, send an @ tweet via twitter, a gmail chat, or even call in via skype… and your comments and questions will be a part of the show too. (See the section below called Feedback / Live Chat.) Winner of “Best Video Netcast” in the 2010 People’s Choice Netcast Awards of Northern Hell’s Kitchen, the show airs every weekday at 10:00am Eastern (New York City) time.
More broken promises of daily shows back then too .

Yesterday's episode is up on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqpX...player_embedded

Bredtv.com redirect to onlyonetv.com.

feed is on !! http://onlyonetv.com/watch-live/
It's Ed and Manny talking in spanish.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.

Darth123123 posted:

This is just super creepy. "Non-judmental" (he was very mature, don't judge me) and "Unconditional" (doesn't matter your age, don't set conditions on my love).

Honestly, how many people does he expect to read that and immediately think "NAMBLA"?

filthy regex
Oct 1, 2010

s/ (. Y .) / 8==D~~ /g


frumpsnake posted:

Also remember that he's been with Ed (age: 42) for 17 years.


That's why I always thought the "I'm 29" thing was a joke... between his looks and his 17 year relationship, why would he really think anyone would believe that he's 29?

You're telling me he actually tries to pass himself off as 29 for real? He has to be kidding.

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008


I am loving how much this scandal and a few dedicated posters have completely screwed up bitcointalk.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

I AM A FAT FAGGOT WHO NEEDS TO DIE OF AIDS

theflyingorc posted:

Heh - he used to call his network "bredtv"

Bruce and Ed. How ADORABLE.

Bred33480 was Bruce's handle some other places, it just got that, I feel stupid. Also, 33480 is a Florida zip code, from back when they were whoring there.

bosschair
Jun 22, 2011


Cardiovorax posted:

[Edit] I bet Punsman would be an awesome superhero, though. Fighting crime by telling bad puns until the criminals kill themselves out of horror.

Also, after rescuing you, he has nonjudgmental sex with you. Unconditionally. Meaning, whether you want it or not.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

I AM A FAT FAGGOT WHO NEEDS TO DIE OF AIDS

filthy regex posted:

That's why I always thought the "I'm 29" thing was a joke... between his looks and his 17 year relationship, why would he really think anyone would believe that he's 29?

You're telling me he actually tries to pass himself off as 29 for real? He has to be kidding.

That would mean he started dating Ed when he was 12, which makes total sense except for the fact that he looks 50.

Furious Mittens
Oct 14, 2005



Lipstick Apathy

theflyingorc posted:

I am loving how much this scandal and a few dedicated posters have completely screwed up bitcointalk.

That's the thing though, the community seems pretty evenly split (at least those who are vocal) between being disgusted at Bruce for Pattaya and those willing to fight tooth and nail for him regardless of what is posted about it. And even the trolls (who I could be wrong in identifying them as trolls) are well prepared for the debate and use logic & fact to back up their points and the legit users, well, that's not their strong suit.

waffle
May 12, 2001
HEH


So who brought up the Prague thing? Bruce, or someone else on the bitcoin forums? Because if the latter, then

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008


waffle posted:

So who brought up the Prague thing? Bruce, or someone else on the bitcoin forums? Because if the latter, then

It was someone else(possibly a troll?) I have absolutely no idea who is trolling or not (well except for one person by username).

Everyone on BitcoinTalk, please start accusing opponents of being trolls whenever you can. You'll be undetectable since they already do that, and you'll cause even more confusion.

Also, several of you should announce your own conferences.

Sneakums
Nov 27, 2007
MAXIMUM.SNEAK.

waffle posted:

So who brought up the Prague thing? Bruce, or someone else on the bitcoin forums? Because if the latter, then

It was someone else. Bruce is confining himself to the pattaya and "look at these red herrings T got today" threads.

Also,


Ed is changing his looks!

If these guys are in the US, who is Bruce with ?

frumpsnake
Jan 30, 2001

The sad part is, he wasn't always evil.

filthy regex posted:

That's why I always thought the "I'm 29" thing was a joke... between his looks and his 17 year relationship, why would he really think anyone would believe that he's 29?

You're telling me he actually tries to pass himself off as 29 for real? He has to be kidding.

I thought it was a joke too, but:

Bruce Wagner posted:

Absolutely everyone familiar with Thai culture in the least knows that ALL males are referred to as "boys" --- even if they are 38 years old. It is a bit disconcerting at first.... to hear them constantly refer to someone older than you as a "boy"

I think the implication was that he's younger than 38. How many over-50 prostitutes are there in Prattaya?

I Might Be Adam
Jun 11, 2007

Skip the Waves, Syncopate
Forwards Backwards


Watching the show without chat is a waste of time. Especially when it's El Show De Bitcoin. Come on Bruce, bring the chat back. No troll zone.

Greyhawk
May 30, 2001




waffle posted:

So who brought up the Prague thing? Bruce, or someone else on the bitcoin forums? Because if the latter, then

Another guy with a not quite so clean background. I asked him to elaborate on that in the thread, but so far they choose to ignore it.

Devian666
Aug 19, 2008

Take some advice Chris.



Fun Shoe

I decided to see what's going on in the bitcoin mining section. The pictures thread is still going. The post at the top of the page is from a guy running 13kW of bitcoin mining computers. A large portion of his mining income will just be going on electricity. He says that half his computers are in the garage so he has a constant 6.5kW of heating going into his house.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7216.700

Furious Mittens
Oct 14, 2005



Lipstick Apathy

Sneakums posted:

It was someone else. Bruce is confining himself to the pattaya and "look at these red herrings T got today" threads.

Also,


Ed is changing his looks!

If these guys are in the US, who is Bruce with ?

Ed is growing a moustache to throw people off of his trail!

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

I AM A FAT FAGGOT WHO NEEDS TO DIE OF AIDS

OK, the bred + zip code brings a whole new rabbit hole it appears:

quote:

brucewagner Jan 29 2004, 09:57 AM
Member
Group: Members
Posts: 20
Joined: 29-January 04
From: Chicago and Palm Beach
Member No.: 100

Mailblocks.com is THE solution to spam!


Would someone please remove the Mailblocks.com servers from your spammers lists.

By including Mailblocks.com servers on your "blacklist", you are recommending that subscribers to your list NOT accept email from these servers.

Your recommendation is causing damage to all the legitimate users of Mailblocks.com who are simply TRY TO AVOID AND DEFEAT SPAM!

Your recommending that organizations not accept email from Mailblocks.com users is an ABUSE of the responsibility you claim to promote.

If someone at spamcop does not correct this problem by removing legitimate servers from your "blacklist" of recommendations, the result WILL be....

The organizations are going to continue to hear a fury of backlash against the use of the flawed Spamcop lists, and your "blacklists" will become irrelevent.

You owe it to the cause of defeating spam, if that is your real intention and motivation at all....., to correct this fatal flaw in your system.


Bruce Wagner
President
Bold Funding, Inc.
Chicago, Illinois
312-951-7960
bred[at]mailblocks.com

http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=100

It appears Bold Funding was a mortgage scam.

http://mortgagefraud.squarespace.co...20judgement.pdf

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008


Furious Mittens posted:

Ed is growing a moustache to throw people off of his trail!

But..but...Bruce won't like him if he looks over 20!

(I also like how they advertised themselves as "young studs" when they were in their 40s - in fact, I think we can check the "pathological liar" box on the psychopath test!)

Furious Mittens
Oct 14, 2005



Lipstick Apathy

Three Olives posted:

OK, the bred + zip code brings a whole new rabbit hole it appears:


http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=100

It appears Bold Funding was a mortgage scam.

http://mortgagefraud.squarespace.co...20judgement.pdf

HOLY poo poo

http://mortgagefraudblog.com/perp-w...d_and_shut_down

This is the first hit. There are many more. This is going to be a long afternoon!

Sneakums
Nov 27, 2007
MAXIMUM.SNEAK.

Three Olives posted:

OK, the bred + zip code brings a whole new rabbit hole it appears:


http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=100

It appears Bold Funding was a mortgage scam.

http://mortgagefraud.squarespace.co...20judgement.pdf



http://mortgagefraudblog.com/perp-w...d_and_shut_down

Beaten like an underage prostitute in Pattaya.

What in the gently caress:

quote:

Saturday, August 16 2008 14:03 posted by Milton R. Goldsamt, PhD.

Regarding my earlier comment about the Bruce Wagner of Star Mortgage in VA who went to jail, I should have stated that the charges were embezzlement and misuse of funds, in the amount of $87,000. At his bankruptcy hearing, when lawyers for several creditors questioned him about other sources of money and were those in his name, so that those could be attached as part payment for the money owed-- he took the Fifth Amendment!

Sorry that I wasn't clearer in my first posted comment; I still wonder if this Bruce Wagner is the other Bruce Wagner of Virginia

quote:

Saturday, August 16 2008 13:23 posted by Milton R. Goldsamt, PhD.

is the "Bruce Wagner" that went to prison in Virginia a few years ago for defrauding investors and mortgage holders for whom he was collecting payments and forwarding those payments to them, less a collection fee? Star Mortgage or a firm with a similar title was the company he ran.

quote:

Wednesday, January 23 2008 16:34 posted by Nick

I remember hearing about the collapse of Bold Funding on the news when it all went down in 2004. It was probably the largest, most sophisticated foreclosure scam I've ever heard about, before or since then. $116,000 or so in refunds doesn't begin to compensate all of the victims. And now the owner, it seems, fled to another state and is trying to start his own talk show!

The comments may or may not have him confused with someone else, who belonged to Star Mortgage.


Bruce Wagner Omnimedia is yet another company name (from http://www.linkedin.com/in/brucewagner)

VVV I am quoting that webpage from 2006, if you don't mind, since he might petition it to be removed (he is watching this thread and the yospos one)

quote:

Monday, September 04, 2006
Bruce Wagner's Biography
Bruce graduated from Bishop Rosecrans High School in Zanesville , OH . He has lived in the Palm Beach , FL area, Detroit MI area, Chicago , IL area, Manhattan , NY area. He is gay and has been with his life partner, Edward Gel, since the end of 1995. His life ambition is to be the “next white, male, fat, gay Oprah.” Bruce's heroes include Oprah, Robert Kiyosaki, and Donald Trump, although his heroes would change on a daily basis based on what he had watched on his Tivo the night before. His religion is Unity. He enjoys putting together detailed daily routine programs and frequently fails to meet his goals. He frequently subscribes to the most recent dieting fad, such as The Perricone Prescription, but never lasts more than a few days on the diet; again, he frequently fails to meet his goals. Bruce is also addicted to caffeine; he uses caffeine pills and drinks coffee and Diet Coke throughout the day. He frequently tries to “quit caffeine”, but as you can guess, he is back on in just a few days. Bruce loves to be the center of attention and enjoys demeaning others to make himself look better. This is especially true with his life partner Ed. He loves iPods and Palm Treo smartphones. The first iPod he bought was in Chicago at the Apple Store on Michigan Ave. But take a look at his blog and website and you will see many more of his idiotic obsessions.

During the late 1970's, Bruce says he was on tour with celebrity Neil Sedaka and was his gay lover for a time and traveled around the world. Bruce was suspected to be a Communist supporter and may have convinced Neil to go on tour throughout various Communist counties. We believe this is when he first developed his fetish for Cubans, which eventually led him to his current partner, Edward. Neil Sedaka did come to visit the Bold Funding offices and met with Bruce and Ed and all of the employees. The occasion was a Neil Sedaka concert that night in Chicago in 2004. Bruce said he spent time in China and learned the language. His interest in the language was primarily in its variety of tone and pitch to create different words and meaning based on the sound of the word being spoken. Many times we would hear Bruce hooting and yodeling as he twitched his shoulders. He claimed he was speaking Chinese.

Bruce claims to have started a software development company and to have sold the company right before the tech bubble burst in early 2000. No real evidence of this ever existed and Bruce didn't seem to understand the first thing about software development. Hid did, however, have a health insurance statements listing him as an employee or independent contractor for a software firm, but not an owner. The insurance was provided by United Healthcare.

Visit our website at http://www.geocities.com/therealbrucewagner to learn even more about Bruce Wagner's criminal activities.

posted by The Real Bruce Wagner at 7:32 PM 1 comments

quote:

The Real Bruce Wagner of The Bruce Wagner Show
Bruce Wagner of The Bruce Wagner Show has been a lying, deceitful, manipulating, and dishonest criminal for nearly his entire adult life (At least in our opinion...and many many others!). This website and our blog here is dedicated to help people learn the truth about Bruce Wagner. We intend to publicize the website to anyone and everyone who is somehow connected to Bruce Wagner. We hope that you contact Bruce Wagner and let him know that he is no longer a welcome face in your home or place of business and we invite you to send your own personal stories about Bruce Wagner.

We all agree that criminals such as Bruce Wagner have no place in today's society and we will do everything within our power to prevent Bruce Wagner from influencing, or gaining the trust of others.

posted by The Real Bruce Wagner at 7:28 PM 0 comments

If these are too big, someone please save that page somehow and tell me to remove this.

More info about bruce wagner omnimedia from http://www.illinoislookup.com/bruce...-biz322918.htm:

quote:

Bruce Wagner Omnimedia Inc.
9 E Huron St Ste 5000
Chicago, IL 60611

Phone: (360)851-5286

Chicago Bruce Wagner Omnimedia Inc.

This is why Bruce Wagner is broadcasting from New York, isn't it?

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.


Hey guys be fair now. Prague is actually a kind of nice place. I wouldn't want to live there, but beeing there on a weekend trip is alright.

But no; it is not a town for serious convention stuff.



Edit: That's the bitcoin thread. I post something and at the same time, an even deeper layer of the quantum barrel gets discovered. Let's see him try to delete THAT!

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008


Three Olives posted:

OK, the bred + zip code brings a whole new rabbit hole it appears:


http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=100

It appears Bold Funding was a mortgage scam.

http://mortgagefraud.squarespace.co...20judgement.pdf

drat, I came to post this.

quote:

At all relevant times, Defendant Bold Funding and Defendant Bruce Wagner did not possess a license to engage in the business of a mortgage broker, a mortgage servicing company, or a mortgage company in Illinois. Nevertheless, the Defendants, while present in Illinois, represented to members of the public that they could locate and secure funding for homeowners in foreclosure. Thereafter, Defendant Bold Funding and Defendant Bruce Wagner received thousands of dollars form homeowners for the purpose of providing funding for them, but the Defendants did not provide such services and then retained these monies for their own use.


Somebody tell BitcoinTalk.

THE BARREL HAS NO BOTTOM

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"


Furious Mittens posted:

HOLY poo poo

http://mortgagefraudblog.com/perp-w...d_and_shut_down

This is the first hit. There are many more. This is going to be a long afternoon!

This is pretty holy poo poo, digging through. Im not sure how anyone fell for it, the website is pretty blatant.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040923...oldfunding.com/

Cook County Illinois Circuit Court posted:

A Defendant Bold Funding and Defendant Bruce Wagner are permanently enjoined from owning, operating, managing, or supervising any form of business in Illinois which offers or provides any residential mortgage brokering, originating, or loan servicing activities.

B Defendant Bold Funding and Defendant Bruce Wagner are permanently enjoined from offering or providing any residential mortgage brokering, originating, lr loan servicing activities to any member of the public located in Illinois or for any property located in Illinois

Furious Mittens
Oct 14, 2005



Lipstick Apathy

theflyingorc posted:

drat, I came to post this.


Somebody tell BitcoinTalk.

Yes, get this to BitcoinTalk and Buttcoin.org.

Holy poo poo, Three Olives, I'll never say another negative thing about you again. Great find.

Devian666
Aug 19, 2008

Take some advice Chris.



Fun Shoe

Furious Mittens posted:

HOLY poo poo

http://mortgagefraudblog.com/perp-w...d_and_shut_down

This is the first hit. There are many more. This is going to be a long afternoon!

So Bruce is a scammer like everyone else on the bitcoin forums. What doesn't he do? He's like a supervillian (just to lure the children).

Pead
May 31, 2001


Grimey Drawer

Sneakums posted:


Yesterday's episode is up on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqpX...player_embedded


haha, bruce farts at 8:44

filthy regex
Oct 1, 2010

s/ (. Y .) / 8==D~~ /g


Heh, this was a funny read. Not sure if it was already discovered.

http://therealbrucewagner.blogspot.com/

red19fire
May 26, 2010


jisforjosh posted:

This is pretty holy poo poo, digging through. Im not sure how anyone fell for it, the website is pretty blatant.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040923...oldfunding.com/

Ha, overuse of the ellipsis is basically Bruce's fingerprint at this point. I guess we know where Bruce got his 25k bitcoins and funding for OOTV.

Modrasone
Jul 27, 2008

HE WANTS THIS AND SO SHOULD YOU!


How am I not shocked he's a serial scammer. Especially now that he's admitted everything

RoboTiio
Dec 29, 2007
ointernet!

Goddamn, how deep does this rabbit hole go?

This thread just keeps on delivering.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003


Darth123123 posted:

But who brings all this crap into a business environment? He signs his official emails "One Love" and has PUNL everywhere.


This really has to put a kink in their brain. Highly Moderated != Free Market
I was reading an article recently about how libertarians are quite friendly to autocrats and how they thought, perhaps it would be better to have an environment where leaders are taken as a given, and one can choose jurisdictions, rather than one where leaders are selected by - UGH - democracy.

Furious Mittens
Oct 14, 2005



Lipstick Apathy

red19fire posted:

Ha, overuse of the ellipsis is basically Bruce's fingerprint at this point. I guess we know where Bruce got his 25k bitcoins and funding for OOTV.

This deserves it's own thread on BitCoinTalk so it doesn't get drowned out by the other Bruce Wagner controversy involving Pattaya.

Sudden Loud Noise
Feb 18, 2007


This is the best twist since phone falling off chair!

BillX
Aug 7, 2011


jisforjosh posted:

This is pretty holy poo poo, digging through. Im not sure how anyone fell for it, the website is pretty blatant.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040923...oldfunding.com/

What a loving scumbag! Can this idiot Bruce go any lower?

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

I AM A FAT FAGGOT WHO NEEDS TO DIE OF AIDS

Holy poo poo, everything about Bruce just falls into place, none of it added up, until this.

Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that Bruce had something to do with MyBitcoin?

MaxNV
Jan 3, 2011




This thread over the last few days has been the personification of . Just when you think we can't go any deeper someone punches a new hole in the floor.

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008


What's that organization that tried to archive geocities? Apparently, someone had a web page showing his corruption at therealbrucewagner.geocities.com.

Sudden Loud Noise
Feb 18, 2007


Three Olives posted:

Holy poo poo, everything about Bruce just falls into place, none of it added up, until this.

Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that Bruce had something to do with MyBitcoin?

Oh oh oh! I know, it's because he has a history of stealing from "customers"! Am I right?

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tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009



filthy regex posted:

Heh, this was a funny read. Not sure if it was already discovered.

http://therealbrucewagner.blogspot.com/

quote:

During the late 1970's, Bruce says he was on tour with celebrity Neil Sedaka and was his gay lover for a time and traveled around the world. Bruce was suspected to be a Communist supporter and may have convinced Neil to go on tour throughout various Communist counties. We believe this is when he first developed his fetish for Cubans, which eventually led him to his current partner, Edward. Neil Sedaka did come to visit the Bold Funding offices and met with Bruce and Ed and all of the employees.

quote:

Bruce claims to have started a software development company and to have sold the company right before the tech bubble burst in early 2000.

Bitcoins: Catnip for Crazies

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