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That Guy From Pearldiver
Apr 18, 2001

President and Sole Member of the Andre Braugher Appreciation Society

Teek posted:

As a joke, not really a joke, add a screenshot of the boat painting for SGU.

I can't find a shot of the boat.

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Yehudis Basya
Jul 27, 2006

THE BEST HEADMISTRESS EVER

I think they knew it was a racist trope to have the darker skinned character also be the wise, quiet warrior. Still not sure why they went with it, and why the closest thing to addressing this issue on the show was the fact that girls WITH VAGINAS could do man-science!!!!! It's one of the worst bits of the series- why no black scientists? Or black military leaders? loving bullshit. Hollywood is goddamned racist.

In the SG-1 episode "Tin Man", a robot dude makes robot copies of Sam, Daniel, Teal'c, and O'Neil. Robot Teal'c is messed up and tries to murder Robot O'Neil. The robot creator keeps calling Teal'c "different black". I always thought that was a reference to the racism of the show, but maybe it's not, who knows?

Mu Zeta posted:

It's a cliffhanger but it's not lovely

Agreed! I thought it was an excellent send off for all of the stargate shows. It really captured the adventurous, sometimes melancholy but ultimately uplifting spirit of the show. You should definitely check it out!

Iseeyouseemeseeyou
Jan 3, 2011


Yehudis Basya posted:

I think they knew it was a racist trope to have the darker skinned character also be the wise, quiet warrior. Still not sure why they went with it, and why the closest thing to addressing this issue on the show was the fact that girls WITH VAGINAS could do man-science!!!!! It's one of the worst bits of the series- why no black scientists? Or black military leaders? loving bullshit. Hollywood is goddamned racist.

In the SG-1 episode "Tin Man", a robot dude makes robot copies of Sam, Daniel, Teal'c, and O'Neil. Robot Teal'c is messed up and tries to murder Robot O'Neil. The robot creator keeps calling Teal'c "different black". I always thought that was a reference to the racism of the show, but maybe it's not, who knows?


Agreed! I thought it was an excellent send off for all of the stargate shows. It really captured the adventurous, sometimes melancholy but ultimately uplifting spirit of the show. You should definitely check it out!

And of course we'll never know what happens as the SGU Movie was cancelled

Yehudis Basya
Jul 27, 2006

THE BEST HEADMISTRESS EVER

Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:

And of course we'll never know what happens as the SGU Movie was cancelled

Perhaps it would have been about the prevailing hypothesis in the SGU thread? Some of the girls wake up pregnant and Rush has a penis grafted onto his forehead; meanwhile, Eli is all shifty and claiming innocence.

Iseeyouseemeseeyou
Jan 3, 2011


Yehudis Basya posted:

Perhaps it would have been about the prevailing hypothesis in the SGU thread? Some of the girls wake up pregnant and Rush has a penis grafted onto his forehead; meanwhile, Eli is all shifty and claiming innocence.

This.....is awesome

That Guy From Pearldiver
Apr 18, 2001

President and Sole Member of the Andre Braugher Appreciation Society

Yehudis Basya posted:

In the SG-1 episode "Tin Man", a robot dude makes robot copies of Sam, Daniel, Teal'c, and O'Neil. Robot Teal'c is messed up and tries to murder Robot O'Neil. The robot creator keeps calling Teal'c "different black". I always thought that was a reference to the racism of the show, but maybe it's not, who knows?


I thought it was because the "copier" wasn't programed to take into account the two different brain patterns (Teal'cs' and his symbiote) that caused the original Teal'c copy to malfunction.

Hobo
Dec 12, 2007

Forum bum

That Guy From Pearldiver posted:


I thought it was because the "copier" wasn't programed to take into account the two different brain patterns (Teal'cs' and his symbiote) that caused the original Teal'c copy to malfunction.

Yeah, I really don't see how anyone could think that it's referring to something else.

Yehudis Basya
Jul 27, 2006

THE BEST HEADMISTRESS EVER

That Guy From Pearldiver posted:


I thought it was because the "copier" wasn't programed to take into account the two different brain patterns (Teal'cs' and his symbiote) that caused the original Teal'c copy to malfunction.

Er, I perfectly understand this aspect of the plot. I was referring to racial subtext...

MadScientistWorking
Jun 23, 2010

"I was going through a time period where I was looking up weird stories involving necrophilia..."


Yehudis Basya posted:



In the SG-1 episode "Tin Man", a robot dude makes robot copies of Sam, Daniel, Teal'c, and O'Neil. Robot Teal'c is messed up and tries to murder Robot O'Neil. The robot creator keeps calling Teal'c "different black". I always thought that was a reference to the racism of the show, but maybe it's not, who knows?

They actually did acknowledge this fact early on in the series. In fact they went with the overt sledgehammer of a joke.

MadScientistWorking fucked around with this message at 23:44 on May 26, 2011

Yehudis Basya
Jul 27, 2006

THE BEST HEADMISTRESS EVER

MadScientistWorking posted:

They actually did acknowledge this fact early on in the series. In fact they went with the overt sledgehammer of a joke.

So sorry, don't remember, fill us in?

That Guy From Pearldiver
Apr 18, 2001

President and Sole Member of the Andre Braugher Appreciation Society

Any ideas for a channel name on irc.synirc.net? Or we not that geeky?

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003

iSheep krew represent


That Guy From Pearldiver posted:

Any ideas for a channel name on irc.synirc.net? Or we not that geeky?

#theoldorifice

MadScientistWorking
Jun 23, 2010

"I was going through a time period where I was looking up weird stories involving necrophilia..."


Yehudis Basya posted:

So sorry, don't remember, fill us in?
Watch the episode 1969.

Yehudis Basya
Jul 27, 2006

THE BEST HEADMISTRESS EVER

MadScientistWorking posted:

Watch the episode 1969.

Ooooooh starting season 2 tonight, so I should get there quickly considering my binge rate! I remember 1969 being an enjoyable time travel episode with young Hammond and awful/awesome fashion, but that's as much detail as I can dredge up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-9RyHmjK-4
"Supreme Commander" is one of my favorite moments in the series that always sticks with me, though.

Oh god, I have spent far too much time thinking about sci-fi today and not actually working. Yet I feel zero regret about this.

That Guy From Pearldiver
Apr 18, 2001

President and Sole Member of the Andre Braugher Appreciation Society

Yehudis Basya posted:

I remember 1969 being an enjoyable time travel episode with young Hammond and awful/awesome fashion, but that's as much detail as I can dredge up!

Would this be the awful/awesome fashion you are referring to?

MadScientistWorking
Jun 23, 2010

"I was going through a time period where I was looking up weird stories involving necrophilia..."


That Guy From Pearldiver posted:

Would this be the awful/awesome fashion you are referring to?


You know speaking of this episode have they ever actually explained how the Jaffa tattoos are made?

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here


Yeah Teal'c explains it to a kid when he gets an apartment goes crazy on Earth. They carve the shape into their forhead and pour molten gold into it.

Hobo posted:

What happened?

And yeah, the phoning in was just painful.


IIR when it first aired there was stuff in tv gossip mags about them having a falling out. It was 10 years ago though so I have no idea if you can find anything about it.

NoNotTheMindProbe fucked around with this message at 00:54 on May 27, 2011

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!



NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

Yeah Teal'c explains it to a kid when he gets an apartment goes crazy on Earth. They carve the shape into their forhead and pour molten gold into it.

They also explain it some in the episode where they have to rescue Teal'c kid from becoming a Jaffa for Apophis or whatever.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

What's a war hero got to do to get some lubrication around here?

That Guy From Pearldiver posted:

Would this be the awful/awesome fashion you are referring to?



They look more like a 90s band trying to be 60s.

spronk
Feb 5, 2011

Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.

Should put something in the OP about spoilers - use spoiler tags for major plot points/character deaths/season finales, and non-spoiler tags for just about everything else? Or just assume everyone who is reading this thread has watched all the series?

Its funny how many alien races are 1-shots in the show, like the invisible bugs or the aliens in Foothold. I do like however how some pop back up every now and then, just watched the "Trial of Skara" episode and it was great seeing the Tolaan and Nox again.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!



spronk posted:

Should put something in the OP about spoilers - use spoiler tags for major plot points/character deaths/season finales, and non-spoiler tags for just about everything else? Or just assume everyone who is reading this thread has watched all the series?

It's a dead franchise and there's a spoiler free (I assume) "let's watch" thread for SG-1. I think it's fair to make this a spoiler thread.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004


I never finished the series. Did anything ever come of the O'neill/Carter thing. Please tell me it didn't turn out like what they did with Mulder and Scully in the X-files.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!



zVxTeflon posted:

I never finished the series. Did anything ever come of the O'neill/Carter thing. Please tell me it didn't turn out like what they did with Mulder and Scully in the X-files.

They dropped it completely and the show was better for it.

Effingham
Aug 1, 2006

The bells of the Gion Temple echo the impermanence of all things...


ParagonParadox27 posted:

Hahaha, god. Jerry Doyle is a dick, you need look no further than the fact that he's a right-wing radio hack.

Ah, yes. He is conservative, therefore, a dick.

GOd forbid someone should have a different world view than you do.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!



Effingham posted:

Ah, yes. He is conservative, therefore, a dick.

GOd forbid someone should have a different world view than you do.

I didn't say it and I don't know who that guy is, but please, name one right wing radio personality that isn't a waste of life.

Yehudis Basya
Jul 27, 2006

THE BEST HEADMISTRESS EVER

Ooh, my favorite D&D threads are bleeding into this one! Fun fun fun!

So, which socialist atheist muslim kenyan Gould represents Obama? This is VERY IMPORTANT.

Captain Vittles
Feb 12, 2008

I'm not a nerd! I'm a video game enthusiast.


Yehudis Basya posted:

Ooh, my favorite D&D threads are bleeding into this one! Fun fun fun!

So, which socialist atheist muslim kenyan Gould represents Obama? This is VERY IMPORTANT.

Hathor.

Back on topic: Space's perpetual loop of SG-1 has made it back to Season 10, and I just noticed that the girl who played Vala's daughter was also the girl who played the princess in the awesome episode of Atlantis that lead to the beautiful painting we all love.

Der Luftwaffle
Dec 29, 2008


They should have kept her as a little girl, she was so much creepier and benignly threatening than the hamtacular adult version.

I liked how the Ori arc started out as a series-ender but it seemed like they had too many ideas on the table and ditched the good ones for the quick and easy. There were all these references to Arthur returning like they were building to something huge, the random girl pulls the sword out of the stone and....nothing. They entirely dropped that and just continued the stretched out quest for a thing that wouldn't be resolved till a really bad tv movie.

Der Luftwaffle fucked around with this message at 02:32 on May 27, 2011

Effingham
Aug 1, 2006

The bells of the Gion Temple echo the impermanence of all things...


Mu Zeta posted:

Don't forget the alternate SG-1 intro

http://youtu.be/CqDE8kocoTI

Hey, it's not any worse than the lyrics to the Star Trek theme (by means of which Roddenberry appropriated half of Sandy's royalties for writing the damned music, though it was never used -- begins at 1:17), or the Bonanza theme lyrics.


twistedmentat posted:

They look more like a 90s band trying to be 60s.

You weren't around in the sixties, were you? It pretty much really looked like that in places.

Effingham fucked around with this message at 02:34 on May 27, 2011

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here


Der Luftwaffle posted:

They should have kept her as a little girl, she was so much creepier and benignly threatening than the hamtacular adult version.

I liked how the Ori arc started out as a series-ender but it seemed like they had too many ideas on the table and ditched the good ones for the quick and easy. There were all these references to Arthur returning like they were building to something huge, the random girl pulls the sword out of the stone and....nothing. They entirely dropped that and just continued the stretched out quest for a thing that wouldn't be resolved till a really bad tv movie.

Hey man, all those sweeping cinematics shot of Teal'c walking over mountains was totally amazing and didn't detract from the usual lean pacing of the tv series at all.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

What's a war hero got to do to get some lubrication around here?

Effingham posted:

You weren't around in the sixties, were you? It pretty much really looked like that in places.

I was around in the 90s, and O'neill's cap thingy looks like he stole it from a guy in a Del La Soul video.

I love the line "you don't need a car or even a ship..."

Senor Tron
May 25, 2006



twistedmentat posted:

I always took the SGU uniforms looking different because they were setting it up as the SG program was slowing morphing into its own 4th branch of the military that was also pan national. Don't make the Russians, Brits, Germans, Chinese, Aussie and whomever else joins all wear American uniforms, and you can't have them all wearing their home nations uniforms because then they don't feel like a cohesive force.

Apart from Rush were there any non-Americans aboard Destiny?

That Guy From Pearldiver
Apr 18, 2001

President and Sole Member of the Andre Braugher Appreciation Society

Updated the OP a bit. Again, if anyone has additional photos/character bios or the like they think should be included please feel free to share.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!



Senor Tron posted:

Apart from Rush were there any non-Americans aboard Destiny?

Don't think so no. I don't recall any nation other than Russia ever getting to do much with the stargate stuff in the other series either, and only then because the Ruskis found their own gate at one point.

Cryptic Edge
Aug 4, 2006

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Senor Tron posted:

Apart from Rush were there any non-Americans aboard Destiny?

I'm pretty sure a few were at least supposed to be Canadian or something.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007
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IRQ posted:

Don't think so no. I don't recall any nation other than Russia ever getting to do much with the stargate stuff in the other series either, and only then because the Ruskis found their own gate at one point.

China, UK, and I think France were involved. One of the annoying things about Atlantis was that while Grodin wore a Union Flag patch on his arm, the scotch doctor got a saltire patch.

On the one hand it was nice to see a reflection of the UK's large asian community, on the other it was bizarre, and a little offensive, to have that dreadful fake accent walking around with the Scottish flag when it should have been the same as Grodin's.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!



Oh duh yeah I forgot Atlantis. Now I remember all their hurf durf this is an international blahbity blah, which meant Becket with his Scottish accent and some background people had random flags on their jumpers.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

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IRQ posted:

Don't think so no. I don't recall any nation other than Russia ever getting to do much with the stargate stuff in the other series either, and only then because the Ruskis found their own gate at one point.

The gate in Cheyenne Mountain is the Russian gate.

the-jam
May 20, 2003

Kick Out the MC5


IRQ posted:

Oh duh yeah I forgot Atlantis. Now I remember all their hurf durf this is an international blahbity blah, which meant Becket with his Scottish accent and some background people had random flags on their jumpers.
Don't forget Mckay and, "It's a Zed-P-M!" Also Zelenka was Czech and had a Czech flag on his jumper.

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IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!



Rhyno posted:

The gate in Cheyenne Mountain is the Russian gate.

I know that. They had to trade for it awhile back, which is why there was a Russian SG team and why they got a F303 or whatever the big battlecruisers were, but before then the Russians were using their gate and it was mucking things up.

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