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For any newcomers: Stargate isn't kidding about its serialized nature. It introduces elements in early episodes that won't go away for years (for better or for worse, what's up replicators?). The continuity and attention to long term plot arcs is really wonderful in the Stargate series', and that dedication really rewards the viewers. I don't think I've ever had so much fun watching another TV show. So, enjoy the original movie first, and then get started on SG-1 season 1! Episodes 1-3 are great. If you can make it through episode 4 ("Emancipation" aka "The Turd"), then you will be subsequently graced with the best sci fi show ever produced. Watch Showtime's version of the first episode to see some truly beautiful breasts. Also, I think I just made the thread creepy. Sorry!!!
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May 26, 2011 05:25
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IRQ posted:Wow 1 post in and the mongols episode is already being shat on. Emancipation is a good episode and don't you believe anyone who says otherwise. Well, I'm re-watching season 1 right now, and the episode is just so freshly awful! The paternalistic aspects of it and condescending tone make me cringe. It's not the last time that the airforce/US tries to change a culture in SG-1, but making the people not white in comparison to the overwhelmingly white protagonists was just really lovely. They tackle equality questions much better in other episodes (like that one planet where O'Neil unwittingly participates in genocide). They fail miserably in this one. ....but I'm already at "Enigma", which is an incredibly great episode! It's the introduction of not only Maybourne, but the Tollan, who were my favorite alien race (besides the Oshen, who I always rooted for).
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May 26, 2011 06:12
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Goons rage on Atlantis a lot, but I loved it. The chemistry between the actors was palpable and you could see how much fun they had doing the show. It was just so much loving fun, exploding tumors and all! Also, the wraith were excellent villains (now compare them to the Orii, who were ostensibly the worst villains in the history of all television). Watched the finale of SG-1 season 1 last night. When the Jaffa capture O'Neil and Teal'c and present them to Apophis via the TV thing, and O'Neil says "Hiya, pops" and Apophis makes his eyes saucer-level big and immeditely yells back "SILENCE!!" as though all offended that someone dare speak to him, I laughed so hard. That is classic stargate. Yehudis Basya fucked around with this message at 18:40 on May 26, 2011 |
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May 26, 2011 18:32
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I'll take space high fructose corn syrup over bullshit, boring Merlin inclusion any day. As far as I'm concerned, SG-1 ended in season 8 with "Moebius". That nonsense with Origin as well as Valla and her shoe-horned sex jokes in seasons 9 and 10? Never happened. Seriously. They're the only episodes of the entire loving series that I've only seen once. (Well, excluding SG Infinity but after seeing the theme song, I'm already hooked on it!)
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May 26, 2011 18:44
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I guess I'm just a stargate purist and you plebians can enjoy your Farscape leftovers  I suppose one of the reasons I could never get into the Orii plot was because of how technologically advanced the SGC was by then. So instead of having to illegally gate to questionable addresses and fight with their bare hands/lovely projectile weapons to stop the impending Earth attack, the SGC instead had pew pew laser space battles while sitting in command chairs, just talking to each other in order to defeat the Orii. I find those battles boring (probably related to how Battlestar quickly became boring to me, sorry for the blasphemy). I prefer my stargate personnel to be scrappy underdogs, not technological powerhouses! Wait, what deal were they offered in the genocide episode? It's been a long time since I last saw that one.
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May 26, 2011 19:10
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I always thought Senator Kinsey, Maybourne, Samiels, etc. had a point in that the stargate program was really too dangerous to actively operate: too many diseases brought back and not enough alien tech. Though I really loved the episode where they specifically address this very issue and O'Neill becomes An Official Bad Guy with Maybourne's black ops team.
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May 26, 2011 19:26
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Rodney is my favorite character across the whole series. Hewlett played that role perfectly. I loved the episodes that featured his relationship with his sister. And the episode with the painting of him and Shepherd and that girl- ohhhh it was amazing.IRQ posted:Well the season 1 formula was pretty terrible so there's that. There were some good season 1 episodes, though- like "Time". And once they started using the stones effectively in season 2, they became a great tool and not a lovely plot device. I'm going to do a re-watch of Universe at some point, maybe season 1 will feel more cohesive on the second go around. Such a shame that it was canceled.
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May 26, 2011 22:07
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I think they knew it was a racist trope to have the darker skinned character also be the wise, quiet warrior. Still not sure why they went with it, and why the closest thing to addressing this issue on the show was the fact that girls WITH VAGINAS could do man-science!!!!! It's one of the worst bits of the series- why no black scientists? Or black military leaders? loving bullshit. Hollywood is goddamned racist. In the SG-1 episode "Tin Man", a robot dude makes robot copies of Sam, Daniel, Teal'c, and O'Neil. Robot Teal'c is messed up and tries to murder Robot O'Neil. The robot creator keeps calling Teal'c "different black". I always thought that was a reference to the racism of the show, but maybe it's not, who knows? Mu Zeta posted:It's a cliffhanger but it's not lovely Agreed! I thought it was an excellent send off for all of the stargate shows. It really captured the adventurous, sometimes melancholy but ultimately uplifting spirit of the show. You should definitely check it out!
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May 27, 2011 00:00
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Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:And of course we'll never know what happens as the SGU Movie was cancelled Perhaps it would have been about the prevailing hypothesis in the SGU thread? Some of the girls wake up pregnant and Rush has a penis grafted onto his forehead; meanwhile, Eli is all shifty and claiming innocence.
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May 27, 2011 00:09
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That Guy From Pearldiver posted:
Er, I perfectly understand this aspect of the plot. I was referring to racial subtext...
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May 27, 2011 00:25
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MadScientistWorking posted:They actually did acknowledge this fact early on in the series. In fact they went with the overt sledgehammer of a joke. So sorry, don't remember, fill us in?
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May 27, 2011 00:49
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MadScientistWorking posted:Watch the episode 1969. Ooooooh starting season 2 tonight, so I should get there quickly considering my binge rate! I remember 1969 being an enjoyable time travel episode with young Hammond and awful/awesome fashion, but that's as much detail as I can dredge up! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-9RyHmjK-4 "Supreme Commander" is one of my favorite moments in the series that always sticks with me, though. Oh god, I have spent far too much time thinking about sci-fi today and not actually working. Yet I feel zero regret about this.
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May 27, 2011 01:07
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Ooh, my favorite D&D threads are bleeding into this one! Fun fun fun! So, which socialist atheist muslim kenyan Gould represents Obama? This is VERY IMPORTANT.
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May 27, 2011 03:13
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Got to season 2 episode "Need", my memory was re-jogged after about 5 minutes, and promptly skipped ahead to "Thor's Chariot". "Need" is that lovely episode where Daniel sleeps with the some princess and they all become addicted to the sarcaphogus, and they're so evil now, ablooo bloooo. So even though it takes 20+ trips to the sarcaphogus in the space of a day or two to get addicted, there is no reason to let mortally or seriously wounded or disease-stricken individuals to use the drat thing once or twice? Look, I know it's just fiction, but god dammit as someone with actual health problems, the preaching on that episode actively pisses me off to no end. Ugh. It's like assholes who have never experienced actual, real chronic pain for months on end from terrible injuries (not just "ouch I banged my knee tee hee") that seem to think you are a morally bankrupt cretin for needing weed to make the pain go away, if only for a little while. This might be the only episode of Stargate to actually enrage me in a self-righteous way- I wear my pathetic nerd badge with shame. Now, on the other hand, "Thor's Chariot" was awesome!
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May 29, 2011 01:38
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yesssss "Bane", the episode where Teal'c turns into a giant moth or whatever, please be as hilarious as I remember!
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May 29, 2011 07:41
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Yehudis Basya posted:yesssss "Bane", the episode where Teal'c turns into a giant moth or whatever, please be as hilarious as I remember! Okay so it was actually much, much better than I remembered. It would have been so easy to slip into bad sci fi (instead of just campy sci fi), and they avoided it. Bonus points for the super soaker fight at the end!
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May 29, 2011 19:42
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Rhyno posted:See that didn't make sense to me. Wasn't Vala a Gould for centuries? How could her human daddy still be alive? Who cares, it's Vala, and therefore terrible!!! Landry was an okay sub for Hammond of Texas, though.
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May 29, 2011 23:56
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I once read one of the SG-1 novelizations. It was... horrible. But I love bad novels in the same way I love bad sci fi channel original movies: shamelessly!richardfun posted:It's not weird. Fraiser was hot. And an awesome character! But yeah, she was also the most beautiful person to probably ever be cast in the entire franchise, with the possible exception of Sharee. I loved how quickly she could solve alien protein and DNA structures, figure out the best medicines that saved people from imminent death, and be a rockin' Mom to Cassandra. Fraiser was the best!
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May 31, 2011 01:58
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scarymonkey posted:The Lucian aliance sucked, Stargate command can defeat the Goulds, Wraith and Ori, but it's the space mafia that can finally sneak nukes into earth. Not that I think their intentions have much merit, but it seems like the producers were trying to compare the Lucian alliance to terrorists (it's applicable to real life! somehow!  ), so there was no clear Central Bad Guy/Organization To Defeat. Compare that to the Goulds, Wraith, and Ori, which were much more centralized, organized, and coherent enemies, so relatively more "straightforward" to do effective battle with. (They're like the US's enemies in the world war! ) Or maybe I'm trying to be kind to the writing staff, because yeah, seasons 9 and 10 were filled with some awful plot holes, way beyond the fun, campy "hey wait a minute" moments of seasons 1-8.
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May 31, 2011 14:41
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spronk posted:I'm not far enough in my rewatch to see the space corn mafia introduction, but wasn't the Lucian Alliance a pretty centralized organization? They "owned" several planets and a bunch of ships, and it was pretty easy to identify and find them. Totally possible. I was so bored with seasons 9 and 10, so my recollection of the Lucian alliance as being a bunch of scattered terrorist cells could be completely inaccurate. I think the only episode I enjoyed from S9 and S10 was the one where those bugs attacked SG1 and Woolsey (they were like the beetles from The Mummy). But the only reason that episode was so much fun was because it made me feel all fuzzy for The Muumy.
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Jun 1, 2011 01:18
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The first time I watched SGU (when it was airing), I really wasn't a fan of the overall show. There were some individual episodes I really enjoyed (the S2 finale, Time, the episode where some of the people stay at the planet). I decided to rewatch it, and I'm about halfway through S1. I am REALLY enjoying the show this time around. The stone use and drama/romance/relationship crap isn't anywhere near as gratuitous as I recalled. I am particularly enjoying Colonel Young being probably the worst Colonel ever, Greer's slowly unfolding story, and the supporting character scientists (Brody, Volker and Park). I'm also a deeply faithful member of the "SG-1 only had 8 seasons" club. I tried rewatching season 9 to give it a second shot last month, and, well, I could make it only 2 episodes in before I just gave up. I actually really like Landry, but the Ori are so boring and trite and anti-compelling that it makes me  . I really don't understand Vala appreciation. We get it, she's a thief and sex and a scoundrel and sex with Daniel tee hee!!!!! Hearing it perpetually in the dialogue when she's onscreen gets old fast. The only perpetual dialogue I want to hear in SG-1 is technobabble, dammit! Rewatching early SG-1 Daniel right before giving S9 a 2nd shot made enjoying the episodes rather difficult, as well. Daniel loses almost all of his personality by that point in the series. I definitely prefer geeky-weak-archaeologist-with-heart-to-keep-military-in-line Daniel of early SG-1. It's not even character growth; it's just character devolvement.
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Jun 15, 2012 17:12
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Arg, it is amazing/infuriating how much better SGU is on rewatch! Even Cloverdale was enjoyable to watch, like the whole thing, not just the crazy attacking alien flower things. Lt Bland isn't so bland! Chloe isn't useless! Eli's film jokes aren't grating! Pregnancy plot doesn't feel as shoehorned! Colonel Young's incompetence is compelling! The emo isn't unnecessarily emo! The stones aren't used too often! However, the use of musical montage like clockwork at the end of each episode is still as gratuitous as I recall. Seriously, I am so surprised by this development. Too bad it was cancelled after 2 seasons 
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Biggest Disaster posted:God I love this show. Why did it have to end? I would much rather have had two more seasons of SG-1 than two seasons of Universe. This is so wrong. I mean, really wrong. The Ori plot might possibly be the most boring thing to have ever happened in the entirety of Stargate. I'd take a spin-off starring Fifth and all the humanoid replicators (Milky Way and Pegasus versions!) battling exploding tumors set to the sounds of Teyla's singing and Jaffa arguing over internal politics before voluntarily watching Ori crap. Give SGU a second shot on Netflix. It really is SO much better when you a) don't expect camp a la Atlantis or early SG-1 and b) don't have a week in between episodes to bleed away tension. GreenNight posted:What was suppose to happen for the new season of Universe was that they were going to be in stasis for a decade and when they awoke, the gate would already be public - and that story was supposed to be told in the 3rd SG1 movie. ), Vala is one-dimensional, and while Landry and the new SG-1 dude are enjoyable, they just can't carry it by themselves. I'd much rather have an Atlantis movie or SGU series than new SG-1 anything at this point. On the series finale of SGU tonight, noooo Eli!
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