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Elentor posted:I bet Solar Energy is much better than Mako, they need 8 reactors to power a city the size of a stadium. Then again, all the slums spotlights... I'd say that they're powering the Shinra building more than they are the city. It is a huge building, and they do a ton of different things there. Alternatively, they just felt it looked cool and the 8 reactor design is a perfect example of Shinra's immensely wasteful business practices.
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Shinra is just the founder's family name, like Ford or McDonald's.
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Jun 8, 2011 05:39
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I would get pissed when playing FFVI and my guys would sometimes block spells I cast on them because their M.Block is so high. Midgar is so much larger than a stadium, even if buildings ignore proportions. What areas in each sector does the game even cover?
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Jun 8, 2011 05:46
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Bocc Kob posted:Shinra is just the founder's family name, like Ford of McDonald's. Well that settles it, instead of making them an electric power company, Shinra should've initially been a foodservice corporation.
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Scalding Coffee posted:I would get pissed when playing FFVI and my guys would sometimes block spells I cast on them because their M.Block is so high. I think you only see Sectors 5, 6, and 7 in the game. But even then, you can bet that's only a portion of each of those Sectors.
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Jun 8, 2011 05:52
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Azure_Horizon posted:I think you only see Sectors 5, 6, and 7 in the game. But even then, you can bet that's only a portion of each of those Sectors. We saw the upper portion of Sector 8 after bombing Reactor 1. If you're only talking about slums however I agree.
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whitehelm posted:We saw the upper portion of Sector 8 after bombing Reactor 1. If you're only talking about slums however I agree. You see 4, too, at one point. And reactor 1 was in sector one, obviously.
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Jun 8, 2011 06:09
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Dauntasa posted:You see 4, too, at one point. And reactor 1 was in sector one, obviously. In terms of actual exploration, though, you only really see three sectors. Any others are kind of perusals, at best.
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Jun 8, 2011 06:22
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I'm kind of under the impression that Mako Reactors are kind of incredibly inefficient, because outside of Midgar, you only ever see these huge monstrosities powering these tiny little fifty-population hamlets.
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Jun 8, 2011 06:36
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-hurp spoilers-
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The White Dragon posted:I'm kind of under the impression that Mako Reactors are kind of incredibly inefficient, because outside of Midgar, you only ever see these huge monstrosities powering these tiny little fifty-population hamlets. I don't know about that. I mean, joking aside, Midgar is supposed to be a huge drat city, and six reactors were enough to power it. I think that they probably have to be that big to work, though. It would make sense if they produced a lot of power but didn't work unless they were big enough to contain whatever equipment it is that sucks lifestream out of the ground.
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Jun 8, 2011 06:54
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Well, they aren't really just powering the city. They use them to produce mako, and they use that mako for tons of different applications. They're using it to power their robot soldiers, and experimenting with it to create new weapons and technologies including mako powered cars. I imagine it's how they mass produce materia as well.
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Zeron posted:Well, they aren't really just powering the city. They use them to produce mako, and they use that mako for tons of different applications. They're using it to power their robot soldiers, and experimenting with it to create new weapons and technologies including mako powered cars. I imagine it's how they mass produce materia as well. Of course I swear I remember hearing something to the effect that all that mako radiation and whatnot coming off the reactors is the in-game source of a lot of the monsters running around in FFVII (about the only way to even try to explain how a friggin' house could turn into a killing machine anyway). Might also go into why Shinra has a big army though; if monsters tend to pop up outside their reactors, they'd probably need the defenses.
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KataraniSword posted:Doesn't the word that translates into 'true' or 'new' in Japanese romanize as "shin"? Maybe it's just gratuitous romanization... but then the question is - what is "Ra"? I remember from some source material that it was supposed to translate as "New Rome" or something, but the classic Japanese track record with other languages came and hit them again.
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Jun 8, 2011 08:06
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Elentor maybe you should just close the thread for a while after an update if people keep on ignoring the no spoiler thing. It's really annoying. The upcoming part of the game made me feel uncomfortable when I played it back in 1998, it's pretty funny in retrospective though.
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I could see "New Rome," since Rome is apparently another meaning for that kanji. Still, it's a family name, so whatever. Incidentally, I've been doing some comparing between the English script and the Japanese script somebody posted, though haven't found too much of interest yet. I guess there's the fact that the mysterious voice in Reactor No. 1 seems to be more like "Open your eyes! This is no ordinary power plant!!" (since not everyone knows it's sucking life from the planet?) rather than "Watch out!" Although it's also pretty clear that when Reno shows up and (at least dialogue-wise) no one really reacts - and Aeris is all "bad timing on my part" - that the translators didn't actually know what was actually happening on screen. Oh yeah, and they messed up the line where Reno's like "Attack! Attack! Uh no wait don't attack!!"
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Jun 8, 2011 08:34
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Yeah, it's pretty clear even by this point that whatever Shinra and the Turks want with Aeris, they want her alive and quite possibly compliant, thus the whole dancing around capturing her we've seen so far.
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vgperson posted:I could see "New Rome," since Rome is apparently another meaning for that kanji. Still, it's a family name, so whatever. It's a made-up family name, so the writers could have easily written a meaning into it. The "shin" in question is not "new," though. It's "god."
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I can't wait for the bit where Cloud kills things with his sword, and then gains experience. EDIT: quote:The "shin" in question is not "new," though. It's "god." Ah! As in shinto? mtrc fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Jun 8, 2011 |
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Jun 8, 2011 12:00
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Exactly. 神羅 (Shinra) and 神道 (Shinto).
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Now that I think about it though, since you still see Shin-Ra plastered all over the place I think the best solution for the english translation would've been to write it as Shinra when they're referring to his name and as Shin-Ra when they're referring to the company.
John Luebke fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Jun 8, 2011 |
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Jun 8, 2011 13:24
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I'm enjoying this screenshot LP, it's been a while since I've played the game myself, and it's bringing back memories... I also like that none of the characters are named jizz-bucket or Tits McAllister. I'm also enjoying learning about life in Brazil. My only reference regarding Brazilians and Rio is the television series Mandrake, which would lead us to believe that everyone there is somehow corrupt and that there is constant sex and drug/alcohol abuse. How accurate is this depiction?
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Chapter 9 - The Wall Market Let's get this out of the way. You should be playing this music during all parts of this chapter until I say otherwise.  Err...  Errr...  Off we go to find Tifa.    I'd say go for it, Cloud, because that "date" that Aeris "promised" doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon. You see that guy in red tan in the bottom-right? He clearly got the money to pay for an artificial tan because I don't see any sunshine in Midgar. Let's talk to him.   Gee, I wonder what he's talking about.  Holy crap, what the hell?  I thought you were leaving Midgar you dickhead.  Sure I'm gonna be sympathetic to you.  Oh cmon.  The guy in glasses keep walking around kicking things and looking for a fight. I wonder what he's saying.  In Brazil it's possible to find prostitutes for like 10 bucks an hour. Of course you'll also find those who charge orders of magnitude more than that.  What a great way to treat a potential customer!  I don't really get why anyone would pay for sex though. It's not like it's hard to find.  Jap-Goons, translate every single one of these boards. I can only translate engrish posters like "INN" and "ARMS". So it seems Tifa INDEED looked like a prostitute. Well this brings us the following relevant questions: 1) What 2) Why? So maybe they were captured and now Shinra is selling her as a slave to the whorehouse?  The plot thickens.  Great, now we have the name, soon we'll bring the shame. Don Corneo is the name of what we can assume is the pimp. We just need to look for a mansion.  Yeah let's leave before things start not making sense again, our theory is good enough for now.  Well HOW do you become a member then? Also isn't that a little counter-productive? Anyway, we go to the store with the huge board marked ITEM, because we're gonna buy the best poo poo available.  If you've been following my B&Bs you should know by now that Hypers DOUBLE the rate at which your Limit Bar fills. We're a bit low on money but we buy 5 of these for great justice. We decide to go north, we still need to find a mansion.  Hmmmnope. Doesn't look like a mansion at all to me.  No mansion, but this place is so well-drawn.  Here we go. PREPARE FOR FULL FRONTAL ASSAULT, AERIS.  WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? Cover me so we can go in.   Wait no, we can go in kick some rear end.  Yeah Aeris, I know about you being badass and all but going in alone is a bit too crazy. Then again maybe Aeris is used to this kind of stuff.  I always interpreted Aeris' flower-selling as an excuse to her mother and that in truth she is a high-end escort.    Yeea Aeris, that is a bit creepy. What is going on? I mean what could you possib   This here, ladies and gentlemen, is why FF7 was the best RPG of its time. Not because it has fancy boys with swords, not because it had piss-poor 3D. But because it features a "flower girl" who's pursued by the mafia crossdressing a terrorist military deserter to rescue his friend from a pimp. I hope that music is still playing, because as Amy Farrah Fowler would say, things are about to get kuh-ray-zee.   I dunno Cloud, I think she was testing you and you didn't put much of a fight.  Besides I told you to have your date while it was time, it's a little too late now, don't you think?  That's drat right it is Cloud. She's gonna giggle and remember you with a wig when you two have a date.  Look at how weary he is. Yes Cloud, that clothing store is your doom.  But we're being sexist here. Maybe she's one of those girls with these kind of kink. I mean, she's into younger guys, maybe she likes crossdressers. Maybe it makes her feel powerful.  I mean, let's be honest here Cloud, that would be a plus for you. Even your mother knew of your preferences.  Or maybe she doesn't care and is just doing it for shits and giggles. She'll give you the sex of your life after all this is over just to make up for it.   Final Fantasy VII - Criticizing weapons and promoting environmental awareness, all in one stroke.     Judging by the junk, that store on the top-right seems to be the weapon store. We'll visit it later because Cloud doesn't give a gently caress about the environment as he made sure to state a hundred times in this game. For now we're going to the bar.   Aren't these tables a bit too big?  Cloud is manning it up.   Oh god not again Aeris what are you gonna say   Hahahahhahhahah  You can see Aeris getting way too much fun out of this.   Awesome    Sounds about right.  Yup. We're done here. Let's take a look at the bar now. The food here looks delicious.  Nevermind.  Yeah, nevermind. I think I'm done here.    Hahahahaha  You're drat right he needs a wig and I'm not talking about crossdressing. That hair can kill people.    And with that we'll end this webisode. Next Time! BODYBUILDING, Sweat, Bathing, Crossdressing Chapter 9 - Bugs & Bytes You know the gym? Notice how he talks "In the gym you'll find a lot of people like you." He's obviously referring to gays. The thing about Japanese people is that androgyny, while a little suspicious, was NOT an automatic pointer that you're gay. On the other hand, the gay stereotype in Japan is that of the macho man, the body-builder. Cloud is strong, muscular and likes dressing like girls, so to the store owner he's obviously gay. Where to send him to? To the gym. That's where the gays are. The Japanese thought of a mix of Schwzenegger with YMCA when they thought of gay people. It's related to the admiration to the male body - hence why you see all the shirtless guys flexing in the tutorial room, for example. Of course this was of the time the game was released. I have no friggin idea how they view things today but judging by how much they still worship Gackt as the epitome of masculinity, I don't think it changed much. The Dressing Mechanics Part 1 So right here we started a new (and the funnest) mini-game in FF7 - Picking up clothes for Cloud. Basically, we need a wig, but we can also in the meanwhile go to the other places of the Market look for more things to make Cloud prettier. The first option was, naturally, the clothing. There are 4 combinations and 3 possible results - Silk Dress, Satin Dress and Cotton Dress. Naturally, Silk Dress is the best. But how does it affect anything? Well don't worry, you'll see in the next chapters. That is, if people don't spoil. THERE'S A NO SPOILERS RULE IN THIS THREAD. If you don't follow, then Aeris is gonna crossdress you. And you don't want that, do you? (You might do) 
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Jun 8, 2011 16:10
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Oh God Aeris is such a stinker. I love this oldnew side of her.
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Elentor posted:We're a bit low on money but we buy 5 of these for great justice. Booooooooooo. Also, how could you cut the update off just as it was getting good? The suspense is killing me.
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Elentor posted:
This scene was the first time in my life that I ever just doubled back and had to check what was happening again because I didn't believe what I read just came from a video game.
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Dauntasa posted:Booooooooooo. I'm cutting updates at the 60-70 image mark.
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The music suddenly stopped when Aeris suggested Cloud should dress up. I think I will like this section instead of remembering all the fetching. I got so confused when it happened.
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Anybody who says the game gets better after Midgar is either lying or forgot this part. This will always be my clearest memory of FF7. When I first got it, I got the horrendous PC port and thought it was a pretty neat game so far. Then they asked me to make Cloud a pretty princess. That was when my 16 (younger? older? I don't remember) year old self went "WHAT HAHA OH MAN best game ever".
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I have to say that this thread is really making me reminisce about the entire Midgar experience in general. It has drat good music, and I mean drat good music. There are the beginnings of character arcs (I really never thought of Aeris' personality this way but the evidence seems to be there) and the setting is just fantastic. I loved the game and have beaten it at least three times, but nothing really comes close to Midgar. Also the next update will most likely feature some of the most hilarious poo poo ever. Also an interesting note, after reading about the Ted Woolsey translations and censorship in FFVI and Chrono Trigger, look at this came. Whorehouses, bars, crossdressing, FFVII doesn't mess around.
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Ah, I remember that when I was younger, the crossdressing part got me in some serious trouble with my mom. Not enough to get it taken away, but it's a pretty awkward experience trying to explain to your mom why your protagonist has to crossdress to get into a (fairly obvious) whorehouse to rescue your childhood friend. Using what I knew as a naive nine-year old child. Ah, good times.
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I know the primary thing the clothing choices affect. Do they also affect the thing later in the game that was mentioned in a previous update?
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"Elentor posted:You beautiful bastard. Edit: This is the only reason I'd want a remake. To see girly cloud in HD.
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Lance Streetman posted:You beautiful bastard. They already did.  Nowdays Square Enix would probably get rid of the whole cross dressing scene to shove in more angst. Aeris: "Cloud put on this lovely green silken bow! It'll match your eyes." Cloud: "These eyes, they are the eyes of a monster. I am a monster who does not deserve this silken green bow...I've failed everyone."
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You know, I've heard of this scene before I played and thought it would suck, but it's actually handled really well. I laughed, and the guy watching me play (I hate playing RPGs alone, it's far more fun to do a "live blind LP") did too. Too bad I didn't know the "correct" choices for clothing and failed to do the other stuff, so...I'm quite excited to see it. Has been spoiled, too, don't care. It'll be a riot, I'm sure of it.
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Elentor posted:This would've made Advent Children at least ten times better.
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This next scene is funny. It also led to one of Leovinus' many custom titles from his failure to update FF LPs on any sort of reasonable basis (or at all). While that isn't really noteworthy, I made the one in question that time. (whether that makes it more or less noteworthy is up to you I guess!  )
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See, I always got the Satin Dress because you'd think the one where you mix answers would be the rightest one. Nope!
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Psion posted:This next scene is funny. It also led to one of Leovinus' many custom titles from his failure to update FF LPs on any sort of reasonable basis (or at all). While that isn't really noteworthy, I made the one in question that time. Well it's my first LP, and I have to cover up the fact I'm not as funny as Leovinus. If I don't update it in a reasonable basis then I'm screwed.
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Man, why'd they ruin FF7 with the extended universe poo poo? Cloud's right up there with Zidane when it comes to wacky rear end in a top hat protagonists.
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