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Dead Cow posted:I got stuck being too low level at some point and gave up Let me tell you that that's impossible.
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 Good gobbling gently caress I'll never compare with Omnislash with the fuckin' Nail Bat.Speaking of the LLG, I did have an update written but when I went to preview the post I noticed you updated so I'll just wait for a new page. By the way, all this talk about the Black Materia being incredible destructive power no one wants to really use reminded me of something. 
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Oh hey, new page. Last time:  I think this is an apt metaphor for SOMETHING in there.  Once again, saving gil.  Okay!  Haste will never wear off naturally.  After that it's a combination of Trine and Right Arms. The arena lets you use your items.  It didn't really seem to hurt after Haste.   Blappo!  Softs can cure slow-numb before it petrifies. Unfortunately I died there. This took a lot of tries.  I'm not in this for the BP.  I don't HAVE summon materia equipped.  The Golem didn't move very fast or hit very hard. Right Arms did the opposite.  Oh no not my already tiny level.   I'm not even sure what this is, just it's dying.  This round has an enemy that can inflict stop. getting immunity to stop would also require an immunity to haste. Unacceptable. Thank god limits take priority over other actions.  Right Arms take care of the rest.  At this point, I don't need 'em. CLOUD's out of MP anyway.  CLOUD's immune to fire, making most of the Dragon's turns wasted.  Dragon Fang still does a shitton but it instantly fills his limit gauge, which means I have time to use a Hi-Potion.  And after a half-dozen Right Arms, the Dragon falls, defeated by a level 12 character.    But surprise! The reward isn't worth all those Right Arms! I already have a Protect Vest and an extra 10 Dexterity isn't very much, not to mention I'll usually be running status or elemental resistance accessories anyway.  So this is what really happens: pitifully losing in the first round.  Much cheaper.  Sadly no this doesn't skip the exposition.  And furthermore I didn't hate Aerated enough to get the date I wanted. This is just not my night.   Goddammit Ice T, that IS acting like nothing ever happened. Stupid cat.  Not quite clock drugs but it'll have to do.  And this is the team. Again. Like usual. Next time is the actual interesting things like fighting Demon Wall. Orange Fluffy Sheep fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Jun 13, 2012 |
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Mr Right posted:That being said, is Demon Gate really 5/5 and 5/5? I mean, wouldn't anyone with Clouds limit just take him down in one limit? Yes. He's far faster than any other boss, with an effective Dexterity score of 70, and he hits really loving hard. Those thousand-damage hits are completely normal. And if you take too long he'll hit the entire party with an attack that's just 50% stronger. And he has a petrify ability. Also, Meteorain isn't likely to one-shot him and if you've got Omnislash already you've got very few problems with FF7 in general.
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Choray posted:On the other hand, he has Enemy Skill materia for three and actually did look up where to get Big Guard and the like, so it's not like he's having enough trouble with anything to notice his setup is otherwise terrible. No his Materia set-up is good if he's using Enemy Skill. It's seriously broken. So broken at a later point in the LLG I actually finish random encounters to learn a few. Good God.
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Twiddy posted:It may be something that's really common in Japanese media/conversation, but I never got the impression it was a Japanese thing (mostly because I knew people who asked questions like that before I even knew what Japan was). It's just shorthand for, "Please elaborate on *word*, I want to know more about it in this context." So, "Metal gear?" is, "Please tell me more about the immediate significance of Metal Gear." Or "Did you say *word*? How are you aware of it?" or "I am in disbelief that I have to cope with *word*! Are you certain?" FillInTheBlank posted:You couldn't wind the clock in the original Japanese version until you had fallen down 3 times then it would switch to how it is in all other releases. That... would've made me get the Nail Bat in the LLG.
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Jun 15, 2012 14:37
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Zeikier posted:I should try and do a challenge run to see how I fare and see if bosses stand out. Demon Wall took 8 or 9 tries for the LLG. I lost count. Red Dragon took two. I underestimated the fire veils and wiped my own party.
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Jun 18, 2012 00:49
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Brainamp posted:Wait so Rikku came first? But FF7 came out first? I'm missing something here. They wanted to use Rikku in Kingdom Hearts. Kingdom Hearts has a character named Riku, who is entirely different. They used Yuffie instead of two-k Rikku, instead of not having two characters in popular Squaresoft games whose names are pronounced Ree-Koo.
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Jun 21, 2012 03:03
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Dauntasa posted:Vinny's hanging around, yeah. I'm not sure Elentor's ever used him, but he's tagging along. I've never used him because Lost Number gives 2000 EXP. 
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Jun 21, 2012 04:28
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FillInTheBlank posted:I just noticed we missed the lucky sevens reply. All Lucky 7s deals 497,728 damage, being 64 7,777 damage hits. I've had it happen to me exactly once. I still lost the battle because it was against one of the superbosses and he leveled me before I could take the other half of his HP. 
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Jun 23, 2012 04:17
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anakha posted:IIRC, that also applies to some spells cast by the Lucky 7s character. Getting Lucky 7 immediately causes the character to attack 64 times, each hit dealing a fixed 7,777 damage, immediately, with priority over other acts, and without using a turn.
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Jun 23, 2012 04:45
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a sawing motion posted:It's been a while since I've played, but wouldn't this just change your HP the second time you equip your materia? He means lowering your Max HP until it hits xx77, and then raising it again. The max increases, but current HP stays the same. Like, going down to, say, 5577/5577, then going up to 5577/8000.
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Jun 23, 2012 15:15
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George posted:Ashe, on the other hand, is completely loving ruthless and has to be talked down from global thermonuclear war by the rest of the party for basically the entire game. If only they told her just as adamantly to wear a more decent outfit. As much as I love FFXII (because I am gay for Matsuno) some of the character designs are just silly. You know what penguinmambo has been saying about character design matching personality? It's like they got it sometimes in that game. Balthier is swank as hell and Fran's in lingerie.
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Jun 24, 2012 05:00
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Elentor posted:And with that, I conclude this update. No you jerk get right back here and post the 54th update! I have to see your take on what comes next! 
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Jun 25, 2012 00:36
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evelynevvie posted:If you haven't noticed, earlier in the game, at the church where you officially meet Aeris as well as at her house, a much mellower version of her theme plays, called "Flowers Blooming in the Church." It's a different arrangement but the main motif is in there. I wish more people randomly pointed out melodic connections. I can never get them myself unless the songs have similar instrumentation and/or are blatantly named such. Well that was the event I was waiting for for the LLG but I won't spoil the mood so quickly with another update of horrible pragmatism. Besides it's really late.
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Jun 28, 2012 04:50
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I still have both my Versus guides for Pokemon RBY and GS. I was sad I never found one for RS, probably because Versus closed by then. I haven't bought a Pokemon guide since. I chose to instead become the living conduit of information. Speaking of knowing too much about how games work, I got some work in on the LLG update but they released the card list for Magic 2013 and I got distracted by wizard poker.
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Last time I won the battle arena then decided it wasn't worth it. What an almighty waste of time! This won't be.  Ugh no we don't have time if we're going to go by the roller coaster later Aerated we're not going to be at Disney World forever.  Okay fine sheesh just let me dig through all my crossdressing supplies that will never be used again to get the one key item that's relevant.  Also the game assumes you get both optional characters ASAP. I doubt I'll get Vincent. That is unless you guys really, really, REALLY want his mopey rear end in the team, kicking the average level up. I guess if you want to see what I name him. Maybe Villains. And this LLG can be solved without any villains.  I may use this at some point to get sources or high-money items from battles which involve more than one enemy. Besides, more options cannot hurt ever.  I do get Aerated's ultimate weapon.  Its slight boost to Vitality and 7 Materia slots are useful, useful, useful. It DOES have a damage boosting effect if the other allies are KOed, but Aerated won't crack 80 attack and there is no way in hell I'm going to outdamage Right Arms like that. Notice how many of those are purple? I didn't buy those HP Pluses for nothing.  Also this will be useful somewhere, someday.  I tried to screencap Cloud's freakout here. There's a very lightly colored model overlapping with his regular one. FF7: uses models clipping into each other effectively.  Also this loser lizard is open to paralyze and mostly attacks with a fire attack Aerated nullifies.  Right Arms cut through that 8000 HP like a hot knife through butter.  The Fire Veils I bout at Wutai are great for elemental suicide.  He's the easy boss before Demon Wall.  Aerated hits level 17 and against all odds I  level a materia.  Elemental+Shiva, Restore, the rest are HP Plus. Demon Wall is a bastard.  ExplainingFF7sstory.txt  Oh poo poo. It's this guy. The second hardest boss in (LL)game.  Well first off he's really fast and hits really hard. Cave In is ice-elemental and weakened by Barrier but hits the whole party.  That 10,000 HP will take a while to get through, which is a problem when he hits like a truck. The problem here is that he's endurable with high offense, the most deadly combination. I risk either running out of steam and dying, or getting pushed back eternally, until I run out of healing items and get murdered.  Also he can crit. Fucker. After the 4th loss I put Sadness on Aerated just to reduce the damage he does what ever little bit more I can.  Victory finally came when CLOUD got the added effect+time on his sword to stick Slow on the bastard. Even if he still hits really hard, I have the time to actually damage him between heals.  It takes 8 Right Arms, but, hey, Between his slow and Aerated's sadness I can win now!  And that's the 2nd hardest part of the LLG done! I am not looking forward to number one.  Aerated hits level 19, with a next EXP of who cares.  Sorry but there are no cops here, what with the Cetra having been dead for over 2000 years thus having no society to protect from crime.  "You'd have to be, like, over level 40 or something."  She gives back her accessory and materia, but keeps the weapon and more importantly, armor. I kept her with a Diamond Armlet instead of something better so I could keep that something better, another layer of difficulty with Demon Wall.  Incidentally, since the Turks battle prevented it earlier, this is my first trip to Gongaga. I buy Mistify and a Fury Ring. You never know when you'll want to put the game on auto-pilot.  Without Aerated to absorb EXP, Clispaeth will be the new pal for a bit. Taft is effectively mandatory on account of needing her dead in the party to avoid EXP.  Welp that's the next boss beaten.  I give CLOUD all three enemy skills and fill the rest of his materia slots with HP Plus.  I suppose you understand now why Aerated was designated level-getter. All of her EXP vanishes with her death. Because of this she's the designated survivor for most of disc 1's bosses, from Aps to Demon Wall. I've now reduced the tragedy of Aerated's death to a mechanical spectacle. I think I have issues.  Oh yeah this thing. CLOUD's immune to water and can chop off all her HP with regular physicals with no issue.  Well there's the issue of his attack being pitifully low.  I use a few Right Arms to get her to use Aqualung before running out of MP. Blue Light does cost a few.  There we go. All three of CLOUD's Enemy Skill materia pick up the spell.  Imagine this for like 10 more minutes. She has Reflect up but it doesn't really matter. She's weak to Earth but giving CLOUD's sword an earth elemental attack would mean two less HP Plus getting AP.  Eventually she explodes. Aerated's theme becomes meaningless background sound after so long.  You know, the hilarious thing about Aerated dying and taking so much EXP is that boss EXP is now on a giant upswing. After just two bosses CLOUD will be higher level than Aerated ever was.  Also typo. I don't think it's that often that FF7 just blatantly misspells something.  Anyway that's the end of disc 1. I think the average level is sitting at about 15, and with Aerated's death no one is higher than 17. Now begins the superfun part, juggling 3rd members to keep the average in check! Goddammit I miss Aerated.
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VagueRant posted:I don't understand how you lessened the effects of Demon Gate's attacks so much. Even with back-row and barrier, surely he should be doing considerably more damage? Back row is half, barrier is half, Sadness is a fifth IIRC. It adds up.
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Jul 3, 2012 21:34
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Lt. Chips posted:Whenever Aeris gets XP, off screen party characters get a portion of the XP. Aeris finishing any nonessential battles would bring up the average party level. I don't think there's any point where Aerated could finish battles and someone else not gain EXP. Regardless, leveling her up would increase the average for Rex Ronan, Cop Killa, and Clispaeth, making them join at higher levels.
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Jul 3, 2012 22:40
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Azure_Horizon posted:I think calling Kuja a drama-queen is kinda generalizing the character, there's a ton of nuance to him that goes beyond something like that. "Drama" is a good word though given how many play motifs he tosses out.
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Jul 4, 2012 00:59
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keiran_helcyan posted:You're unhappy I put a spoiler behind spoiler tags? the OP posted:* NO SPOILERS. I met two people this year who had just started playing FF7 and did not actually know anything, even the major events everyone knows about. So it's possible there will be one or two readers who don't know either. Don't talk about anything beyond what we've seen. So uh... yeah. E: This isn't the first time either!
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Elentor posted:I just read that. gently caress. After FF13's completely split reception and FF14's crash-and-burn I have to agree. Maybe if we buy 8 million more copies of FFT? It's easily better than 7. (I don't think I've mentioned that I love FFT recently so I have to rectify this)
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Macaluso posted:It was lost! Some many years ago, long before I posted in this LP, I was in a relationship and we lost a sword. Now, this relationship was toxic to begin with and doomed to fail regardless, so that the losing of the sword was the straw that broke the camel's back came as no surprise. It was a weapon neither of us wanted in the first place, so the event didn't effect me nearly as much as it would, say, a couple who was trying for a sword. Still, I saw the emotions it can bring up first hand, and I saw how it could truly hurt someone. It's a tough thing to handle because it's Sephiroth's fault. He's too handsome to blame.
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Kheldarn posted:That would have been FFXII. It was all set to be a kick-rear end FFT title, and then Squeenix poo poo all over Matsuno, he left, and they turned FFXII into what we got. Not a bad game, but not the great one it was going to be. The story falls apart right after Mt. Bur-Omnisace and it's so painful to see because that part of the game contains all of Cid hamming it up.
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Jul 7, 2012 16:19
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George posted:FF12, unfortunately, also had a lame airship. Honestly it feels tacked on as Gate Crystals are 99/100 times the more useful option. Especially since the Strahl can't go places they can.
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SirPhoebos posted:I have a theory why folks seem to be blabbering spoilers despite frequent reminders, and it goes as such: People are goddamn stupid and cannot read is probably a much better and more accurate answer. I played an entire disk knowing that Aeris is going to die at the end of it and I never had this horrible need to gab in the intervening months.
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Jul 9, 2012 18:09
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Sarkozymandias posted:Hey there's no reason to watch Citizen Kane because rosebud is his sled! The entire movie was clearly just some padding between the mystery and the reveal! Cinematography and the language of film are just elaborate pranks to keep you from filling out your wookieepedia. I'd beat the strawman to death too but I'm afraid it'd give EXP.
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Sarkozymandias posted:The existence of fan wikis and TV Tropes aren't strawmen. They're symptoms of a disease that is all your fault. No seriously what are you arguing against. I'm not sure how what you've posted is relevant besides the general topic of spoilers. You should've spoiled that when you started ranting.
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Elentor close the thread and don't reopen it until you have posted all the updates. Somehow "no spoilers" is impossible to comprehend. Sarkozymandias at least understands it enough to argue against it.
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Truman Sticks posted:...is blocked with a giant fish until your party falls asleep in the shell-house. Mr. Fish, as it has been affectionately dubbed, returns after the end of disc 1 to block off the areas again. He is the cornerstone of several Revive Aeris rumors. I've forgotten how many are earnest or how many involve Ramza absorbing Gafgarion's crystal to get a rainbow chocobo and fly to the moon to fight some dinosaur gangster with 55000000 HP for the drat fish to move, but only if you have 16 mastered Revive materia equipped on Cloud. Because it requires Life2 in sixteens to undermine the story.
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Elentor posted:LP will be resumed next week with CD 2 and hopefully more than one update. We're at about 2/3 of the game! I hope you're not showing off the same ridiculous glitch I am so we can cover different ground with the next big dungeon!
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Jul 20, 2012 18:13
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The Barret date was the one I was trying to get for the LLG. I think there are more than a few triggers for losing points with Aeris and Tifa that require a fight though.
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Jul 28, 2012 21:27
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Zeikier posted:I had figured you were on the ball for the Barret date. I woulda linked you the guide I followed for it if I didn't have that confidence in you! I wasn't really trying that hard to get it to be honest. Just mostly picking pro-Barret choices whenever they showed themselves.
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Adus posted:
 Elentor and I had similar thought processes, and not just with windows! I also only bought two weapons, one of them being for Ice T (Taft here has the other one) and screenshotting parts of Gast and Ilfana's home videos.  "Cetra" must be some good weed if it made her think this is a good name. it will probably be a few more updates before I have enough material for a good update Elentor you showing off that glitch in the glacier? I hope you know the one.
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It's not "lines." She has exactly one incidental throw-away line, and the only reason I'm not posting it yet is because it's at the start of the area after snowboarding. While it speaks volumes in implications, she's still absent from any substantial conversations past her death. There is something much more questionable it's even more spoilers. And I'm reserving the rights to talk about it once Elentor has covered the relevant section because I'll post pretty pictures with it. 
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Also Elentor we are thinking of the same glitch and you better show off other things because that's literally all I did during my trip to the Great Glacier.
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DontMockMySmock posted:But maybe I'm just talking out of my rear end here. You are because Aeris will appear to Cloud as a force ghost after Cloud eviscerates his snowboard for shelter from the cold.
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Booties posted:Yeah the whole nomad thing fits with Judaism. But the people who settled, are they Christians? Or is this all just a mix with the force being analogous to life stream? The Lifestream is the Matrix. 
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penguinmambo posted:I notice the Faces of Eve thing in FF games a lot, and was surprised replaying the game that Tifa's role as "tomboy" isn't really overemphasized in the game as I thought it was. Then I realized with Aeris gone, you really only have Yuffie and Tifa around so Tifa's characterization just shifts to "older girl" (or if you don't get Yuffie, simply "the girl" Yuffie doesn't really add anything to story scenes even, playing without her I barely notice her absence. Vincent has more of an impact.
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Mogambo posted:I don't know how I'd feel if Vincent/Yuffie were misssable. Yuffie I could do without, but Vincent actually has a backstory that adds to the plot. (Plus I think his limit breaks are cool.) They are. I'm going to play the LLG without getting Vincent.
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