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McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Looks like there are raws available up to Chapter 18. Haven't checked them all to avoid spoilering things to much, but 11, 12 and 13 are legit anyway.

Also Manga rules etc.

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McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Hugs Boson posted:

The city is the humans home turf - and even after a breach they still control the top of the wall! That's a huge strategic advantage right there. If their main problem is a medium sized hole in the wall, why would they discuss moving a huge boulder as their only option to block it? Why don't they simply use people and carts to move bricks, rubble and cement safely along the wall to the hole and simply dump it over the edge and pile it up until they've blocked it? With a couple of hundred men and two or three days of work they could bury the former door completely. If you're in a hurry, you could even use explosives to collapse the first couple of meters of wall right above the gate and repair it later.

Well, like you said, it takes time, and an 8-meter whole is still pretty sizable. And all it takes is one Titan to undo all blocked at once. Since titans home in on concentrated humans, they'd be stalking the walls and the opening most of the time, and even a lure plan like what was attempted with the rock isn't fully working. On top of that, the colossal titan completely ruined the tops of the wall above the gate, so that would slow down any top-of-the-wall drop down repairs.

As for explosives, well it's possible they just don't have them. Or at least, not in significant enough power to collapse the wall. Cannons are the most powerful weapon we've seen on the human side.

Hugs Boson posted:

Also, why keep the doors at all, especially knowing that the huge Titan's preferred strategy is to kick them down? I get the argument that they are partially symbolic, and permanently blocking them signifies giving up any hope of return to the outside world, but they aren't really that important strategically. It's not like they hide underground with doors being the only way in or out - they simply need some lifts and cranes and ladders to pass the walls any time they want.

One of the information pages explains what you said exactly actually. The conservatives (political factions ahoy) wanted to have them buried, but the reformists advocated that "abandoning the doors to the outside world was tantamount to renouncing the idea of a rehabilitation of mankind."

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


UserMan posted:

Its the year.

Yeah, it probably is the year. It was 845 when Wall Maria fell, and it's 850 after the timeskip which is pointed out to be five years.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Simstim posted:

Does anyone know what chapter it was when Eren and Annie wre doing hand to hand combat and she told him about her father?

also here is annie saying sorry early in the manga, it's on two pages.

http://www.mangareader.net/shingeki-no-kyojin/15/23

Here you go.

http://www.mangareader.net/shingeki-no-kyojin/14/15

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


New Chapter for us all to be terrified of.

http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Shingeki-no-Kyojin/Vol-008-Ch-035--The-Boy-s-Brightly-Shining-Eyes?id=128386#1

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Next week is gonna be Mikasa's flashback and the stuff leading to it. Two weeks will probably be a cliffhanger end with Mikasa between the titans or The Punch.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


If people weren't sleeping I'd easily let out an audible HOLY gently caress at the chapter.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Schwarzwald posted:

The problem isn't that characters aren't allowed to come back from the dead in a fiction, where obviously real world rules aren't necessarily applicable.
The problem is that, in the particular fiction of AoT, characters have not come back from the dead, until now Armin has.

AoT is breaking it's own rules.

...Eren.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Schwarzwald posted:

I must have missed or forgotten this. Do you know what chapter it came up?

Chapter 53. He saw her in a mirror from her memory's perspective.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Zeke probably posed as a doctor and injected the fluid under the guise of a vaccine.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Erwin deliberately tried to lure out any other possible hidden shifters on the slim chance they might exist. The Armored Titan didn't destroy the inner gate of Trost like it did in Shiganshina, so Erwin speculated that Eren became the new target for any intelligent Titans since Eren's existence proved they could exist.

His whole plan was taking a risk on shaky information and conjecture and it paid off.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Oh man, I was kinda thinking how interesting it would be to flip the story like that, with Marley being subtly invaded by Paradis and it might be true!? Sweet.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


I think there were some dogs during the Survey Corps manhunt.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


change my name posted:

We haven't seen any wildlife on the mainland either yet, it's possible that everything's been wiped out and that the Marely crew only know about them through books/education.

Well, we do know for sure Marley has dogs...

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Thoren posted:

Why did the Marleyans assume the Islanders only have two Titans under their power? Isn't it plausible that they'd have taken control of the female Titan too?

It is plausible, but Marley doesn't have any personal confirmation on Annie's status. Unlike Bertolt, who Zeke saw in Eren's grip.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Thoren posted:

Reiner knows that the Islanders have Annie .

Reiner was told they have Annie.

Yeah, we, as readers, know that's the truth, but Reiner doesn't have a personal see-it-with-his-own-eyes confirmation on that.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Bert, Reiner and Zeke have no idea what happened in the inner walls. Armin said they had Annie. Bertolt had no idea if that was true or not. They weren't in contact with Annie because they were secluded away. Now, Bert learned the Survey Corps had deduced Annie's identity, but she could have escaped their grasp. She's Annie, she whooped Eren's titan pretty drat easily after all. Bert even points this out in Shiganshina, that Armin may be lying about them having Annie locked away.

So, in this scenario, why wouldn't imaginary escaped Annie make it to Reiner and Bert? Because she doesn't know where they are. Because she wouldn't know they'd revealed theirselves. She could be laying low in the far north, or trying to circle around to Shiganshina (if that was a designated fallback point). She still needs food, water and sleep even if titan form makes travel easy. But they don't have any sort of long-distance communication. Annie can't give them status updates on twitter. There is UNCERTAINTY to what's true or not.

Now come up to Zeke giving his status report to the Marley Marshal. He states that Paradis likely has Four Titans under their control (Attack, Founding, Colossus and Female). Eren has Attack and Founding and everyone is certain of that. Meanwhile, the Colossus Titan and Female Titan powers hadn't resurfaced in Marley. Whether they're still alive or not, those powers would then be on Paradis. And of those two holders, Bertolt's Colossus was last seen as Eren's prisoner and NO ONE had seen Annie. So, when Zeke theorized what destroyed the 32 investigation ships, he goes to the more logical duo of Attack+Colossus. Yeah, they know that they probably have Female-Annie too, they're probably 99% sure. But that's a 99% Female Titan against 100% Colossus Titan.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


The very first chapter has the survey corps return with 20 injured men out of 100 and Keith breaking down in tears that they accomplished nothing and died in vain due to his ineptitude. Then we get drunken useless garrison troops. Eren idolized the military; but no one else did and decried them as a pointless waste of lives and resources.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Is very appropriate holy poo poo.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Kenny's Squad all got buried while other Interior MPs didn't (some got arrested).

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Eren's 15 and is company is in the same bracket.

Definitely never google anything everyone loooooves to spoil every upcoming twist.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Conspiratiorist posted:

Live reactions are fun tho; don't stop.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


It's Eren's turn to destroy people with his mind powers.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


So Marley's titans don't exist huh.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


End the season at the picture then make people really confused in X months by starting with the flashback.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Beefstew posted:

Just imagine I said Reiner instead of Baraka.

Hey that's not fair Reiner totally won that one fight against

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Sweet Christmas.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


vs mindless titans: THIS IS FASCIST PROPAGANDA AGAINST THE FACELESS OTHER.

humanizes the villains: THIS IS FASCIST APOLOGIA.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Elias_Maluco posted:

Thank you

drat, maybe I need to reread this thing again, I was under the impression that Zekes plan was revealed to the walls guys only after the attack on Marley, only Eren knew about it

Not Zeke's sterilization plan but his extraction plan from Marley.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Titans are drawn to humans and that was the biggest group of humans around.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


But what if Eren is subtly controlling them to meet each other with the Founder's power?

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


bees x1000 posted:

Yeah I get Historia's deal, but there's an order of magnitude difference between choosing Eren over her father's obviously flawed scheme, and actually going through with the rumbling. Eren, for all his predilections towards (justified) violence, was all for Rod's plan in that moment, and only rumbled when he couldn't deny his prescience any longer. I don't believe Historia is more bloodthirsty than him, so I believe she knows everything he does.

While we're here, when they talk about the rumbling, Eren says he can use the founder to make Historia forget. Is he saying he can do that at any time, or that he's going to do it once he's in contact with Zeke? Also, if Eren really is the father, it would be implied that they used the founder to manipulate farmer dude to act as her husband. Again, how did they do that without Zeke?

Well Historia's right there...

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Because I was born into this world.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


hatty posted:

Annoying shippers are getting real riled up over the leaks none seem too happy

Let us hope leaks are real!

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


Getting the headshot would have been way better.

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McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008


They are Eldians, their families just haven't bred with Ymir's spine-eating bloodlines.

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