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serious gaylord posted:The more you read it, and then read back the last 20 or so chapters it just gets worse. Did he have a week to go to the deadline and realise he hadn't actually written the ending or something? Speaking about deadlines, I wonder if the quality of the ending could have been improved if the editor would have let him a bit more of time. Let's remember the death march that is publishing a regular manga in Japan. In fact, now that I think about, I don't think AoT skipped any month in the last years. Would we have the same ending if a year ago Isayama had made a 3 months pause? We will never know.
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Elias_Maluco posted:I agree Now that I think about it, the series started with everybody believing it was a post-apocalypse story with just a one remaining city, and now in between the genocide and the climate collapse it will really turn into one!
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mightygerm posted:Pretty sure she got poochied, like Ymir. I was hoping to see some sort of resolution with her as she was the only one of the people in the Yeagerists inner circle that was still with the main cast at the end. We see cameos of Onyankopon and Kiyomi but we have no actual idea what happened to their countries, I thought it would be a bigger deal in the epilogue. As you an guess with my long post, I don't agree with most decisions Isayama took with the end of AoT, but even then, it would have been a better ending if he would have developed / explained those decisions in a double chapter, even if I would have preferred A instead of B.
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So, Eren was -a guy obsessed with eliminating all his enemies -obsessed with the idea freedom, and pushing forward -self-centered, in the sense he always valued much more the people who are dear to him over the other people -disappointed with the outside world, deep in his soul he was still a child who wanted a wild world to explore with Armin -who resists to the idea of having to die after x years -who didn't find the support of rebelling further in Historia nor could elope away with Mikasa -confused with the information coming to his head through Paths So all together I can see why he did what he did, but it doesn't all coalesce in a meaningful way, making a good story of aflawed character that we can enjoy dissect as readers or making feel empathy towards him (even if we know it would be wrong). In the end, his final arc feels somehow half baked.
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Anonymous Zebra posted:It's actually very hard to write a story with a protagonist that has future-vision and keep the story interesting for the reader. Frank Herbert is obviously the God of this type of writing and he managed to keep it going by putting some pretty strong conflicts in the way of the omniscient protagonist. Most people forget that the crux of Dune is that Paul is desperately trying to prevent The Jihad for most of the book, but at every point he has to pick between a path of extinction or taking another step towards Jihad. He keeps hoping for most of the novel that at a later point he can move things back off course, but at the very end he suddenly sees with clarity that even if he dies at that moment that the Jihad now cannot be prevented. End of story. Once things get set in stone there isn't more story to tell. Eren needed more inner turmoil and desperation than the ~13 pages we got from the last 15 chapters combined. Instead we got 
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I'm actually reading Encyclopedia Britannica's entry on fascism. Some points can be seen reflected on AoT, like nationalism, imperialism or revolutionary image. I think the inspiration comes from Ww2 and pre-ww2 Japan. Some of the most important ones aren't, because fascism irl was mostly an elite-driven conservative movement against marxism and democracy (see sub-entries like opposition to marxism, opposition to parliamentary democracy, conservative economic programs, opposition to cultural liberalism, corporatism, alleged equality of social status, anti-urbanism), and well, we haven't seen a hint of marxism in this setting, and we don't have any idea of the economic policy of Paradis or Marley? This point "Fascists favored military values such as courage, unquestioning obedience to authority, discipline, and physical strength" made laugh, because to be honest, our protagonists are from the military so it could be seen as 'military values', but in reality they don't have a problem of rebelling against their superiors the moment they don't like the direction they are going for. It happened a few times, so AoT is almost the opposite. A fascist likes the military clear order, the hierarchy.
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Now that I think about it... it's time to unbookmark this thread. It's the first one I had bookmarked many years ago. It feels weird to not have it on my list anymore.  edit: reading the first pages of the thread now it's interesting!
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Apr 8, 2021 23:11
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Frionnel posted:Why was my mom eaten by a titan that day, Reiner? Oh wait because i sent the titan there, nevermind my bad OH gently caress, I had forgotten about that scene. ... Seriously, how many flaws can this chapter have. It hasn't been disappointing in one or two points, it's almost every page had an issue. It's like Isayama has been kidnapped and the editor was obligated to hire someone else to write the last chapter.
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Apr 9, 2021 20:31
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Rebuild of Attack on Titan, maybe?
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Elias_Maluco posted:Yeah, after knowing how it ends, it hard to avoid the conclusion that the biggest unforgivable mistake Marley (and the rest of the world) committed was not murdering all Eldians as soon as possible. Only that could have avoided the cataclysm  He was right. Eren was the humanity's enemy.
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change my name posted:Yeah it doesn’t even make sense, there’s no way the colossal titans could have gotten very far in the few days it took for the alliance to kill Eren. I was thinking along those lines just some minutes ago! They should have destroyed Marley and a pair of surrounding countries, but there was not enough time for more. The world is bigger than that.
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Dammit Japan don't enable him. https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2021-04-13/attack-on-titan-finale-leads-to-magazine-issue-selling-out-and-getting-2nd-printing/.171689
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