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Captain Pissweak posted:I read it last night, so... now? I assume he meant actual English, not "Scanslation English".
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Are we allowed to agree with Requires Hate now? I thought she was one of the people we made fun of in PYF.  She's largely right about AoT, though.
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Oct 11, 2013 03:52
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Professor Awesome posted:Yeah, Eren has anger issues (because as a child he watched a giant eat his mom and almost everyone else he knew for funsies) but that's because the injustice of being trapped, waiting to be eaten is pretty scary and infuriating. Meanwhile, Annie's the protagonist because she never loses her humanity? Ahaha, yeah, okay all those people she sadistically slaughtered because they got in they way of her kidnapping plot would probably disagree that Eren is worse because... he roars? It's precisely because she deliberately kills people. She has come far closer than Eren or Reiner to achieving the state of mind that Auden calls "the conscious acceptance of guilt in the necessary murder."[/devilsadvocate] Edit: I take back what I said about Requires Hate being "largely right about AoT." Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Oct 11, 2013 |
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Oct 11, 2013 05:25
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Kokoro Wish posted:They're both going to make way for the new blood who'll see not-Japan into a future cleansed of political and religious corruption by the strength of a clear sighted and thinking military. Ugh. More fuel for the "is AoT fascist" argument, I guess. It's often the case that finding out about an author's political/social/religious views can retroactively ruin their work for you, especially if it's connected to later fiction of inferior quality (Orson Scott Card being perhaps the most notorious example). Oddly, this seems to happen less often with Japanese writers than with American ones (perhaps because there's more pressure to seem "apolitical"?). Having said that, this is as good a time as any to mention that the Toriko author is a sex offender.
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Nov 8, 2013 08:00
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AnonSpore posted:vvv what the hell are you even talking about I think Griff Lee forgot he wasn't in GBS and started gimmickposting. I agree that Levi's popularity is kind of baffling, though.
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Nov 11, 2013 05:06
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I do feel that, at the very least, AoT's outlook is too nuanced to be completely fascist; Eren's "eager to die" mentality isn't portrayed as a completely good thing, some of the antagonists are relatively sympathetic, etc.
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Nov 14, 2013 00:08
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"We go outside before we're stabbed in the back, or we exterminate whoever wants to stab us in the back, then go outside." "We'll do both at the same time." More fuel for the argument about fascism, I guess. More seriously, Historia's backstory is really  .
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Dec 9, 2013 05:26
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Phobophilia posted:Alternatively this is just a really bad chapter filled with fascist caricatures of child-murderers. I can't tell what level of irony that statement is aiming for, but it's kind of inane however I interpret it.
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Dec 11, 2013 03:50
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Woozey posted:I think he's trying to say that the wall cult guys are a deliberate, negative fascist caricature of Jews, but he's making the mistake of assuming that it's obvious to anyone but himself. I think Phobophilia is being sarcastic. He's still failing to make an actual point, though.
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Dec 12, 2013 21:27
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Wonderful Bread posted:(I was stoned when I wrote those and am more stoned now, so bear with me) Maybe you should lay off the drugs, then. People do take Attack on Titan somewhat seriously here, yes. We theorize about the big mysteries of the setting and argue about the author's politics (basically "Is it fascist?"). I haven't seen Pacific Rim, but I gather it also gets fairly seriously discussed in CD, with a much more annoying version of the politics argument. (Incidentally, I'm in favor of critical analysis of fiction in general, but the way CD does it is really annoying. It's popular to stake out an interpretation of a work that more or less inverts its overt themes and defend it to the death, not even in a Death of the Author way but as a confident statement of authorial intent.)
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Dec 16, 2013 11:29
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Saagonsa posted:No, you see, they just had to put porn in there for the game to sell. So that makes it totally okay and not creepy as gently caress. I take it you're not a big HBO fan either?
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Dec 28, 2013 22:11
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Saagonsa posted:I am sure this game that the developers did not trust would sell well enough without porn being included actually has a "great story" I haven't played Muv-Luv myself, but since a poster above mentioned it as another example, one of your fellow goons has pre-removed the sex scenes from Fate/Stay Night for you: http://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/ Having said all that, the vast majority of VNs are terrible.
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Dec 29, 2013 06:30
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It was quasi-believable because there's stuff in the same magazine as AoT that's pretty much porn.
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Dec 31, 2013 17:43
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:It seems that the fascist subtext is now just fascist text. The "capitalist class" has been portrayed pretty negatively so far, though (which doesn't necessarily preclude it being fascist).
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Feb 6, 2014 20:01
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Anyone else reading the Before the Fall manga? The art is kind of messy, and the plot hasn't really gone anywhere yet, but it's kind of interesting just because of the weird things it implies about the setting. Apparently the Survey Corps predated 3D Maneuver Gear, and even people living only 30 years after humanity moved behind the Walls don't show much sign of understanding the Titans better than the present-day people. Interestingly, there's no sign of the Wall cult so far, but there are a few crazy people who worship the Titans. I'm not sure if these things should be considered an important clue to something or just shaky logic from a dubiously-canon spinoff.
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Mar 1, 2014 09:04
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Nelson Mandingo posted:The government wiped the memories of the people in the walls. That explains why nobody seems to know about various things that happened a bit over a century ago at most. The government having the technology to do that raises more questions, though. quote:The Reiss are the real royal family. Sounds a bit overly convenient.
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Mar 6, 2014 15:53
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eladank posted:So according to this chapter 3d gear is from before the wall, if so why did the monkey titan didn't recognize it? I didn't notice them saying that. If true, it would blatantly contradict Before the Fall. I guess that answers the canonicity question.
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Mar 8, 2014 02:08
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Hunt11 posted:So Armin is just as crazy and messed up as the rest of his childhood friends. I liked Mikasa's line in this chapter: "I didn't raise him to be this way."
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Mar 8, 2014 06:42
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Elias_Maluco posted:They arent even related. This is true of most "incestuous" anime relationships, though. There is a fundamental difference between Mikasa and the kind of characters Tezzor is probably thinking about, though, which is that there's none of the fetishistic "Ooh, how simultaneously forbidden and not forbidden!" BS.
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May 6, 2014 02:53
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I don't think Historia is actually about to eat Eren; I think she's unbound because her father is trying to talk her into joining his side. I'm pretty sure Hange speculated that Reiss wanted to eat Eren himself because he was already a titan shifter. Petiso posted:Keep in mind that's Japan's "official" stand on those things, he didn't go out of his way to think that. That's not actually the official Japanese government stance (you're probably thinking of Turkey), but it does seem to be more or less what the current Prime Minister believes, unfortunately. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Oct 3, 2014 |
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Oct 3, 2014 03:30
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Bluemillion posted:Out of the top 5 in the trainees, Mikasa is the only one who isn't a titan shifter, and now there's a titan syringe in play. Giving it to someone who's so good with 3DMG seems like a waste. Maybe give it to Armin?
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May 10, 2015 00:15
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Tweet Me Balls posted:But "Attack on Titan" makes me think of Saturn Devouring His Son while "Advancing Giants" makes me think of Particle Man instead of horror themes??? "Attack on Titan" sounds like a space opera, though. Also, it has the opposite meaning of "Advancing Giants." Are the Titans attacking, or are they being attacked? Maybe it should have been "Attack of the Titans," but that sounds a bit generic.
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Sep 25, 2016 17:22
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Turin Turambar posted:I suppose they had specific orders to bring Eren to Zeke and not eat him, as the plan was to have the leader Zeke having the coordinate. And hey, his loyalty was clear already, he betrayed his parents. I'm actually not sure his loyalty is clear. The bit where Grisha tells Zeke that he has to follow Marley's rules better than everyone else in order to overthrow them could be taken as foreshadowing.
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I think Grognan may have been asking about whether it's impossible for older people to become shifters, not whether becoming a shifter . I don't think any age limit in the former sense exists, and I don't even remember the possibility being mentioned; Grisha shows that, you don't need to be as young as Reiner and friends were, at least. The Curse of Ymir thing is definitely real, though; Kruger, Grisha, Reiner, and even Eren all seem to have become pretty unhealthy-looking a few years after becoming shifters.
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