MechaX posted:Wait a minute hatty posted:This is why I don't buy the Ymir changed her mind theory, she could flip all of the titans if she wanted but the warhammers are still hacking away. I really don't understand why Kruger is there, Grisha wants to help Zeke sure, but Kruger doesn't know any of these people and none of them know him. Seems strange Armin and Zeke don't know Kruger, but Kruger has seen at least some of Eren's memories and mentioned Armin by name when talking to Grisha.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2021 00:19 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 14:58 |
The Notorious ZSB posted:That is the impression I had. I don't see how his claim could possibly be true otherwise. If it's only what we're literally shown on the pages, the rumbling barely got going. So his statement is either an obvious lie or a bunch of the rumbling happened off screen. I've been assuming that most of it has been happening off screen and we're seeing a fraction of a percent of it on the page. I think you're really overestimating how many wall titans there were. It's more likely they dispersed in groups to attack specific areas before moving on to the next settlement. If they just spread radially like that there'd be a huge distance between each titan pretty quickly.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2021 03:24 |
Schwarzwald posted:??? As far as we're shown, the Ymir's descendants have been literal slaves of the aristocracy since day one. Like YF-23 just pointed out, the aristocrats secretly ruling Marley were descendants of Ymir. Which looks really bad when Eldians literally are forced to wear armbands identifying them. Sure the author isn't western and likely doesn't grasp how hosed up that is, but it's definitely a problem with the work. And combined with the ending being pretty incoherent regarding genocide, it leaves room for a pro-holocaust reading of the series.
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2021 20:20 |
TheKingofSprings posted:If you're illiterate, sure Not sure how you can have a reading of any sort if you're illiterate, please try to have your dismissive white noise posting at least make any sense at all
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2021 21:47 |
GimmickMan posted:In paper, yes. In practice... pro-holocaust readings of media do not happen in a vacuum. Do you think anyone who gets "this is why the gas chambers were good" of any piece of media isn't already a massive chud? Like that's a real question I'm posing to y'all here. When people use AoT to make lovely comparisons about the real world, which do you think takes precedence: That the person is fascist, or that AoT is fascist? Sure, anyone who goes "this is why the gas chambers were good" is already a nazi. Having a rich not-Jewish family secretly rule over not-Germany is still hosed up. Referencing antisemitic conspiracy theories (and not in a clearly critical way) is bad, especially in a work that has genocide as a major plot point and a really muddled message regarding genocide.
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2021 22:53 |
Do these other readers exist outside Conspiratiorist's head though also Conspiratiorist posted:I think the ending is more than fine seriously?
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2021 00:21 |
Unfortunately, manga and anime series aren't actually sapient. Also, the series is over, and can no longer explain themselves better.
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2021 14:08 |
GimmickMan posted:If the author is well and truly dead and we have to go by only the text, then: What's the author's own reading? I didn't know he's made any statements on that. And I don't think anyone was denying that some people have anti-fascist readings of the text?
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2021 15:09 |
Prowler posted:People mostly just hunger to have their expectations defied. They don't necessarily need to be defied in a good or unique way, just enough that it "keeps you guessing." This often turns into doing things just for the shock value rather than whether or not it serves the story in a meaningful way, if it fits the established characterization, etc. Both of those examples both fit the established characterization and served the story, though.
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2022 15:32 |
Sub Harrison posted:The biggest problem with AoT's ending is the Mikasa-Ymir relation. If there were one or two more chapters to expand their parallels with eachother it would be a fine ending, and I'm hoping the anime addresses this. This is just nonsense lol. Do you really think GRRM's original 3-book plan just had "???Ending???" pencilled in? And hardly "everybody" dies in ASOS. Robb Stark, Catelyn Stark (got rezzed at the end of the book), Sandor Clegane fakeout, Balon Greyjoy, Jeor Mormont? Only one of those is a POV character, and Mormont and Balon basically existed to die. Plus just lmao if you think the Red Wedding wasn't planned from the start. GRRM's problem isn't that he had no plan, it's that he let the books bloat out of control instead of sticking to it.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2022 10:48 |
DaveKap posted:Did the manga have swimming wall titans? I forget. It was less swimming and more steaming ahead, as I recall.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2022 12:34 |
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 14:58 |
MJeff posted:Well, for the anime at least, they're gonna have to show us the color of its eyes, which could get real interesting. Don't all babies have blue eyes?
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2023 19:11 |