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Involuntary Sparkle
Aug 11, 2004

Chemo-kitties can have “accidents” too!

Lee Harvey Oswald posted:

Gotta love Soddy Daisy

Also, I love it when people wave what they think are quotes from the Bible around. Had to go google that one.

1. It was Paul to the Ephesians, not Jesus. And he said "in your anger, do not sin."
2. And attributed to Jesus, in Matthews 5:22: "But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment."

Welp.

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VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.


quote:

If they don't trust in God, don't spend our money. If you don't like this nation under God, make a new nation for yourselves.

It must be wonderful to be so ignorant.

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

You're misunderstanding what pedophilia means. Pedophilia is not a sexual attraction to somebody 13-years-old who is sexually mature. Pedophilia is attraction to children who have not reached puberty. You don't understand what pedophilia is if you are saying I'm defending it because I'm certainly no

Morbid Hound

Good god is LZ an idiot. A journalist tells everyone it's none of their business when the government does bad poo poo because his guy is in office.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/26/opini...ious/index.html

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008




natetimm posted:

Good god is LZ an idiot. A journalist tells everyone it's none of their business when the government does bad poo poo because his guy is in office.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/26/opini...ious/index.html

Its actually worse than that

quote:

Were they legal?
Hell no.
Were they effective?
Who knows?
Were they done as a way to keep America safe?
Yes.

That's his argument for Holder and Oliver North holy poo poo. They did illegal poo poo that probably didn't work but they did it for America. He literally quotes Jack Nicholson's character in A Few Good Men unironically.

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

You're misunderstanding what pedophilia means. Pedophilia is not a sexual attraction to somebody 13-years-old who is sexually mature. Pedophilia is attraction to children who have not reached puberty. You don't understand what pedophilia is if you are saying I'm defending it because I'm certainly no

Morbid Hound

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

Its actually worse than that


That's his argument for Holder and Oliver North holy poo poo. They did illegal poo poo that probably didn't work but they did it for America. He literally quotes Jack Nicholson's character in A Few Good Men unironically.

Someone in the comments section actually pointed out that Jack Nicholson was the villain who murdered someone and got convicted and the guy was quoting him.

It's just extremely annoying to see someone who claims to be a professional journalist tell everyone to just shut up and stop acting questions when guns we sold to drug dealers ended up getting used to kill someone here in the country. To top it off, this guy is usually playing the part of the progressive journalist in his other columns. It's amazing how people will sacrifice their own credibility and moral judgement just to toe the political line of some loving politician.

Goatman Sacks
Apr 4, 2011

by FactsAreUseless


Shalebridge Cradle posted:

Jack Nicholson's character in A Few Good Men unironically.

I've always found a good measure of someone is who they think was the bad guy in "A Few Good Men"

Orange Devil
Sep 30, 2010

CUNT


Goatman Sacks posted:

I've always found a good measure of someone is who they think was the bad guy in "A Few Good Men"

Wait so I can see how you could think Jack Nicholson isn't the bad guy due to you being an authoritarian idiot. But errr, who exactly do these people think was the bad guy? Tom Cruise?

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011



Orange Devil posted:

Wait so I can see how you could think Jack Nicholson isn't the bad guy due to you being an authoritarian idiot. But errr, who exactly do these people think was the bad guy? Tom Cruise?

The monsters who dare to question our hero's actions, yea.

Bruce Leroy
Jun 10, 2010


Shalebridge Cradle posted:

Its actually worse than that


That's his argument for Holder and Oliver North holy poo poo. They did illegal poo poo that probably didn't work but they did it for America. He literally quotes Jack Nicholson's character in A Few Good Men unironically.

What the poo poo?

LZ Granderson posted:

We still don't have access to all of the messy facts surrounding the Iran-Contra scandal that erupted during the Reagan administration. All we know is that weapons were sold to Iran in exchange for hostages and that the proceeds from those sales were used to illegally fund rebels in Nicaragua who were supposedly fighting Communism.

Lt. Col. Oliver North took one for the team back then, and there's a good chance Attorney General Eric Holder will have to take one for the team in the Fast and Furious controversy. And by team, I'm not referring to Republicans or Democrats, but rather Americans.

LZ Granderson posted:

North was a fall guy. Not for President Reagan but for all of us. Just as Holder has become a villain to many who are pointing fingers at him.

You've got to be loving kidding me. How could he be this loving stupid and/or this much of a loving liar?

Weapons weren't sold to Iran "in exchange for hostages," they were sold to launder money intended to fund Nicaraguan death squads. Yeah, the first few exchanges involved some hostages but the rest were straight up sales directly to the Iranian military with millions of dollars in profits for the US, on top of the already huge markup from the private Iranian arms dealer who acted as an intermediary. The entire point of the scheme was to illegally circumvent the Boland Amendments which restricted US aid to the Contras. It takes an incredibly dishonest rear end in a top hat to twist selling weapons to an avowed enemy of the US (i.e. the exact definition of "treason"), who had just taken American citizens hostage a few years prior, in order to launder money at a profit for use in funding right-wing, Central American death squads as "keeping America safe."

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

The unwillingness of the Democrats to hammer on Reagan worship with the fact that he literally sold weapons to Iran during their current state's most fundamentalist, America-hating phase is completely baffling to me. It's inches away from treason, and done in the pursuit of contempt of Congress and murder of innocent Nicaraguans in order to subvert democracy, and the Dems can't be bothered to call that poo poo out the way the GOP does with its attacks on FDR. Pathetic.

Bruce Leroy
Jun 10, 2010


Pope Guilty posted:

The unwillingness of the Democrats to hammer on Reagan worship with the fact that he literally sold weapons to Iran during their current state's most fundamentalist, America-hating phase is completely baffling to me. It's inches away from treason, and done in the pursuit of contempt of Congress and murder of innocent Nicaraguans in order to subvert democracy, and the Dems can't be bothered to call that poo poo out the way the GOP does with its attacks on FDR. Pathetic.

Yeah, it's actually kind of amusing how Republicans are constantly berating Democrats when their own people do much worse, if not the same exact thing for which they are accusing Democrats.

E.g. I was watching The Daily Show tonight and Jon Stewart was making fun of Republican politicians and pundits comparing Obama granting Holder's request for an executive privilege assertion to keep Fast & Furious documents secret to Watergate. Then he aired a string of clips of these same people comparing several other things Obama has done to Watergate, including the Solyndra thing, and there was a chart with Obama's and Nixon's heads with 4 Watergates in Obama's column to Nixon's one Watergate.

It's just so amusing to me how Republican malfeasance is basically the metric for lovely presidential behavior and Republicans are constantly exaggerating things they don't like about Obama to an absurd degree. I may be extremely critical of Obama but even I can admit it's incredibly dishonest for these people to criticize him for the very same things Bush, Reagan, Nixon, and other Republicans did to even greater extents. Fast & Furious is a massive fuckup but it really pales in comparison to politically motivated firings of US attorneys and Alberto Gonzalez and other members of the DoJ basically lying to Congress about it.

Presto
Nov 22, 2002


LZ Granderson posted:

We still don't have access to all of the messy facts surrounding the Iran-Contra scandal that erupted during the Reagan administration. All we know is that weapons were sold to Iran in exchange for hostages and that the proceeds from those sales were used to illegally fund rebels in Nicaragua who were supposedly fighting Communism.

Um. Aren't those actually the messy facts?

The SituAsian
Oct 29, 2006

PLEASE WORK OUT

Ernst and Young CEO/Boy Scouts of America board member Jim Turley comes out in favor of openly gay young men being allowed join the Boy Scouts

http://goingconcern.com/post/ernst-...ion-gay-members

Jim Turley posted:

"I support the meaningful work of the Boy Scouts in preparing young people for adventure, leadership, learning and service, however the membership policy is not one I would personally endorse," Turley said in a statement released by his company. "As I have done in leading Ernst & Young to being a most inclusive organization, I intend to continue to work from within the BSA Board to actively encourage dialogue and sustainable progress," Turley said.

Chuck Norris does not like. Also, Barry Sotero is making are children gays.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/click...uts-127378.html

Politico posted:

Chuck Norris speculated on Tuesday that the Obama administration had something to do with Boy Scouts of America board member James Turley's pledge to work to change the organization’s policy against gay scouts and leaders.

In a column for AmmoLand.com titled "Is Obama Creating a Pro-Gay Boy Scouts of America?," the '80s action star attempted to draw connections between Turley — the CEO of Ernst & Young — and the White House.

“Is it a coincidence that Turley is in tight cahoots with the White House and that he is the only BSA national board member in 100 years to oppose its pro-traditional family stance?” writes the "Walker, Texas Ranger" actor.

Turley released a statement earlier this month declaring his opposition to BSA's policy excluding homosexuals.

"I support the meaningful work of the Boy Scouts in preparing young people for adventure, leadership, learning and service, however the membership policy is not one I would personally endorse," Turley said. "As I have done in leading Ernst & Young to being a most inclusive organization, I intend to continue to work from within the BSA Board to actively encourage dialogue and sustainable progress."

Turley has announced that he's stepping down as CEO next year, about which Norris asks, “Is it a coincidence that Turley just announced his resignation as CEO of Ernst & Young (effective Jun 2013) and that he is now offering the White House a parting pro-gay BSA gift in gratitude for all its presidential favors to him and Ernst & Young over the past few years?”

Calling the Boy Scouts “as integral a part of American life and culture as hot dogs, baseball and Grandma’s apple pie,” Norris also attacked the president for his lack of involvement in the BSA, which declares the sitting president its honorary leader.

"Hasn’t America reached a new low in its history when its president (and the honorary president of the BSA!) distances himself and his administration from the Boy Scouts of America yet invites groups such as the Secular Student Alliance to participate in its faith and college missions?"

An spokesperson for Ernst & Young declined comment on Turley's behalf.


With all this talk about Reagan I can only hope that Chuck Norris doesn't run for some random state office which leads to higher office which leads to.....

The SituAsian fucked around with this message at Jun 27, 2012 around 18:39

HOTLANTA MAN
Jul 4, 2010

One day, that lion gets up and tears the shit out of everybody. Cause every once in a while, the lion has to show the jackals who he is.


Lipstick Apathy

Pope Guilty posted:

The unwillingness of the Democrats to hammer on Reagan worship with the fact that he literally sold weapons to Iran during their current state's most fundamentalist, America-hating phase is completely baffling to me. It's inches away from treason, and done in the pursuit of contempt of Congress and murder of innocent Nicaraguans in order to subvert democracy, and the Dems can't be bothered to call that poo poo out the way the GOP does with its attacks on FDR. Pathetic.

Because any negative word said about Reagan by Democrats gets repaid tenfold. Reagan is the demigod of the Republican party and was perfect in every way; anything said about him gets drowned out in a chorus of WELL OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST AND REAGAN STOOD STRONG AGAINST COMMUNISM AND AND

Orange Devil
Sep 30, 2010

CUNT


Glitterbomber posted:

The monsters who dare to question our hero's actions, yea.

Do these people reckon Denzel Washington is a villian in Under Siege as well?

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.


Orange Devil posted:

Do these people reckon Denzel Washington is a villian in Under Siege as well?

"The Siege." "Under Siege" was the Stephen Segal Die-Hard-On-A-Boat movie.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010



How important is Family Circus to you?

quote:

A piggish attack on an American cartoon family

Pearls Before Swine, a comic strip drawn by Stephan Pastis, which appeared in last Sunday’s Eagle, was, to say the least, despicable. It depicted a well-known child, Jeffy Keane, from another comic strip, Family Circus, drawn by Bil Keane, as a foul-mouthed bully, who beat up Pastis’s “Pig,” for somehow “messing” with the Family Circus clan — after which Jeffy tore up Pastis’ strip, leaving it to the reader to re-assemble, and then ran to a church, asking if he needed forgiveness for “(expletive deleted) up a pig.”

This, of course, cast unwarranted aspersions on one of the most iconic, family-oriented comic strips in print, and identified Pastis for what he truly is: a jerk, who is a comic strip wannabe, with absolutely no respect for his betters, and even less talent.

This is not the first episode of Pastis’ comedic voyeurism over the past several months. Readers may recall his “kidnapping” by competing comic strip writers or the misadventures of “Guard Duck” and his hand grenades and other weaponry. Makes one wonder if Pastis has his head screwed on tight.

It would be too easy to depict this as mere pettiness on my part, and maybe it is. But when well-meaning and serious strip writers are impaled on the barbs of such as Pastis it is time to stand up for what is right.

Pastis’ strip should be discontinued by The Eagle — which, of course, won’t happen; freedom of speech, don’t ya know.

RICHARD W. ARNOLD
Bryan

I like that slight against "freedom of speech" at the end.

The strip in question:


Stephen Pastis and Jeff Keane (who is doing Family Circus now) are friends. They love to troll each other both in their comics and in real life.

Nick_326
Nov 2, 2011

History's Latest Monster


From the Wall Street Journal.

quote:

What Is the American Creed?
If we forget our basic ideals or shrug them off, we no longer deserve to be great.

By DAVID GELERNTER


Presidential elections are America's season for serious chats around the national dinner table. The sick economy, health care and the scope of government are the main issues. But another is even more important. Who are we? What is the United States? Recently Gov. Mitt Romney urged us to return to "the principles that made America, America." But too many of us don't know what those are, or think they can't work.

Yes, Americanism evolves, and by all means let's change our minds when we ought to. We should always be marching toward the American ideals of freedom, equality and democracy, as we did when we ended slavery, granted women the right to vote, and finally buried Jim Crow. But if we forget our basic ideals or shrug them off, as we are doing today, we no longer deserve to be great. Without our history and culture, we have no identity.

Almost no one believes that our public schools are doing a passable job of teaching American and Western civilization. Modern humanities education starts from the bizarre premise that students must be cured of the Europe-centered, misogynist, bigoted ideas of the past. Many American children have never heard a good word for the United States, the West, Judaism or Christianity their whole lives.

Who are we? Dawdling time is over. We have failed a whole generation of children. As of fall 2012, let all public schools be charter schools, competing for each tax dollar and student with every other school in the country. Of course this is a local issue—but a president's or would-be president's job is to lead. There are wonderful teachers, principals and schools out there, and a new public-school system based on the American ideal of achievement will know how to value them.

No principle is more American than equality. Every generation has strained closer to the ideal. We have seen the near eradication of race prejudice in a mere two generations—an astounding achievement. We are a nation of equal citizens, not of races or privileged cliques. Affirmative action has always been a misfit in this country. A system that elevates individuals because of the color of their skin, their race or their sex has no place in America.

Yet a boy born yesterday is destined to atone (if he happens to be the wrong color) for prejudice against black women 50 years ago. Modern America is a world where a future Supreme Court justice, Sonia Sotomayor, can say publicly in 2001, "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion [on the bench] than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

Once a justice has intuited, by dint of sheer racial brilliance, which party to a lawsuit is more simpatico and deserving, what then? Invite him to lunch? Friend him on Facebook? This is not justice as America knows it.

Next Independence Day let's celebrate the long-overdue end of affirmative action, and our triumphant return to the American ideal of equality.

Modern American culture is in the hands of intellectuals—unfortunates born with high IQ and low common sense. Witness ObamaCare, a health-care policy, now somehow deemed constitutional, that forces millions of Americans to buy something they don't want.

Bilingualism was the intellectuals' response to one of the best breaks America ever got, a common language to unite its uncommon people. Resolved: The federal government will henceforth conduct its business and publish its statements in English, period. There is plenty of room in this country for new immigrants of all races and religions who want to learn America's culture and be part of this people; none for those who dislike all things American except dollars. Resolved: The federal government will henceforth enforce its own immigration laws.

America's creed is blessedly simple. Freedom, equality, democracy and America as the promised land, the new Jerusalem. What Thomas Jefferson had in mind when he invoked "the favor of that Being in whose hands we are, who led our fathers, as Israel of old, from their native land and planted them in a country flowing with all the necessaries and comforts of life."

President Obama rejects this creed. He doesn't buy the city-on-a-hill stuff. He sees particular nations as a blur; only the global community is big enough for him. He is at home on the exalted level of whole races and peoples and the vast, paternal power of central governments.

The president has revealed no sense of America's mission to move constantly forward "with malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right." Lincoln's sublime biblical English uses the parallel stanzas of ancient Hebrew poetry. That is who we are: a biblical republic, striving to live up to its creed. The dominion of ignorance will pass away like smoke and we will know and be ourselves again the moment we choose to be. Why not now?

Mr. Gelernter, a professor of computer science at Yale, is the author of "America-Lite," out on July 4 by Encounter Books.

"Smart people are ruining this country." -Yale professor.

Someone on another forum posted:

In summation: We should uphold liberty, freedom, and equality, and we should uphold the most liberty, freedom and equality for white, upper-middle class English speakers.

Also, this Christian-majority nation doesn't say enough good stuff about Jesus.

exploded mummy
Sep 10, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick


Nap Ghost

The MSJ posted:

How important is Family Circus to you?


I like that slight against "freedom of speech" at the end.

The strip in question:


Stephen Pastis and Jeff Keane (who is doing Family Circus now) are friends. They love to troll each other both in their comics and in real life.

Example of the iconic family strip "The Family Circus"

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together



Fun Shoe

The MSJ posted:

How important is Family Circus to you?


I like that slight against "freedom of speech" at the end.

The strip in question:


Stephen Pastis and Jeff Keane (who is doing Family Circus now) are friends. They love to troll each other both in their comics and in real life.

Pearls Before Swine is the best cartoon strip and that writer should be ashamed of their poor taste in humor.



Lord Hawking
Aug 8, 2002

SHUT UP!
SHUT UP!
SHUT UP!!!

Nick_326 posted:

From the Wall Street Journal.


"Smart people are ruining this country." -Yale professor.

Even more ironic is that this guy was targeted by the UNAbomber, and is confined to a wheelchair, missing a hand, and otherwise pretty severely handicapped. Without a variety of "liberal" legislation to protect those with disabilities, he'd probably have been pretty hosed after the bombing. Good thing the free market convinced Yale to provide him with wheelchair-accessible offices and classrooms, along with other accommodations so that he could still perform his job duties. Or did he do it through his own bootstraps? Either way, gently caress you, got mine.

Roadside_Picnic
Jun 7, 2012

by Fistgrrl


Pope Guilty posted:

The unwillingness of the Democrats to hammer on Reagan worship with the fact that he literally sold weapons to Iran during their current state's most fundamentalist, America-hating phase is completely baffling to me. It's inches away from treason, and done in the pursuit of contempt of Congress and murder of innocent Nicaraguans in order to subvert democracy, and the Dems can't be bothered to call that poo poo out the way the GOP does with its attacks on FDR. Pathetic.

The reasons Democrats don't nail Reagan on this stuff in foreign policy is because they do exactly the same things and intend to continue doing them. Whereas Republicans are genuinely against the legacy of the New Deal.

Orange Devil
Sep 30, 2010

CUNT


VideoTapir posted:

"The Siege." "Under Siege" was the Stephen Segal Die-Hard-On-A-Boat movie.

I thought it was Die-Hard-On-A-Train? Is that 2? Either way, I mix these titles up.

Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

: U N K N O W N :: A C :

Politico posted:

Calling the Boy Scouts “as integral a part of American life and culture as hot dogs, baseball and Grandma’s apple pie,” Norris also attacked the president for his lack of involvement in the BSA, which declares the sitting president its honorary leader.

Given that current studies estimate about 10% of people are gay, they're also pretty drat integral to America. At that ratio, we've potentially had a few (closeted) gay presidents already.

Androc
Dec 26, 2008



Muscle Tracer posted:

Given that current studies estimate about 10% of people are gay, they're also pretty drat integral to America. At that ratio, we've potentially had a few (closeted) gay presidents already.

We pretty much have, yeah.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Buchanan

Bruce Leroy
Jun 10, 2010


Roadside_Picnic posted:

The reasons Democrats don't nail Reagan on this stuff in foreign policy is because they do exactly the same things and intend to continue doing them. Whereas Republicans are genuinely against the legacy of the New Deal.

Yeah, but Republicans know that going against the legacies of the New Deal and the Great Society (i.e. Social Security and Medicare) is anathema to most of the nation, so they really just talk about the New Deal and Great Society in the abstract rather than mentioning their actual accomplishments and legacies, just like they never really talk about all the stuff in the PPACA because people actually like the specific regulations it created.

This is why pretty much everyone who isn't a libertarian rear end in a top hat was against Paul Ryan gently caress-you-got-mine budget. Even those tea baggers carry protest signs about "keep your socialism away from my Medicare!" or use their Medicare-provided mobility scooters to get to protests. These people love Medicare and Social Security but they've bought into the Orwellian propaganda and double-speak from the GOP and assholes like Frank Luntz.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006



Muscle Tracer posted:

Given that current studies estimate about 10% of people are gay, they're also pretty drat integral to America. At that ratio, we've potentially had a few (closeted) gay presidents already.

If I remember correctly the 10% figure was from the Kinsey report which is hardly current, and his methodology was too poor to make any generalizations. I've never heard that figure from anyone in a position to be acquainted with actual current studies, assuming there are any that are definitive enough to make that kind of sweeping conclusion.

Bruce Leroy
Jun 10, 2010


Arglebargle III posted:

If I remember correctly the 10% figure was from the Kinsey report which is hardly current, and his methodology was too poor to make any generalizations. I've never heard that figure from anyone in a position to be acquainted with actual current studies, assuming there are any that are definitive enough to make that kind of sweeping conclusion.

Trying to gauge the actual demographics for the homosexual population is incredibly difficult and fraught with numerous problems and confounds, but the thing is that the numbers are almost always going to be underestimations rather than overestimations because of so many people being closeted due to anti-gay prejudice.

I can't remember which thread it was in or the title of the study so I've been having trouble finding it, but there was this interesting study out of Germany where they assessed homosexual interactions among adolescent and young adult males over several decades. The interesting part of it was that the proportion of the population admitting to homosexual sexual encounters (ranging from things like mutual masturbation to oral sex to anal sex) as adolescents and young adults (both those who were predominately heterosexual and predominately homosexual in their overall orientation, very much like Kinsey's sexual orientation continuum) was actually higher in the 1970s and 1980s and lower over the past 20 years as there's been more research into the genetic and in utero origins of sexual orientation. The study's authors hypothesize that this change in reporting rates was not due to an actual change in the rate of homosexual encounters, but rather that the publication of research on sexual orientation and it's genetic roots, combined with the widespread misunderstanding of sexual orientation as a binary phenomena, caused the public to view any homosexual encounters whatsoever as meaning that a person is entirely and exclusively homosexual, rather than being someone who is experimenting or is predominately heterosexual with somewhat more than incidental homosexual experiences and attractions. Basically, adolescent and young adult males were still having homosexual encounters, but they stopped reporting it because they feared that admitting to them would mean that they were 100% gay rather than just exploring their sexuality or having a nuanced, non-binary sexual orientation. It's kind of like people decades ago not reporting any Black ancestry due to the whole "one drop" thing, i.e. they were considered entirely "Black" simply because they had some Black ancestry, even if they were mostly of some other, non-Black ancestry, especially White.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.


Orange Devil posted:

I thought it was Die-Hard-On-A-Train? Is that 2? Either way, I mix these titles up.

Come on. Cake scene. Pause, rewind, play. Pause, rewind, play. Excuse me a moment.

The Dark One
Aug 19, 2005

I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!


Is that the one where he saves everyone by showering people in wildflower petals from his military helicopter?

Bruce Leroy
Jun 10, 2010


VideoTapir posted:

Come on. Cake scene. Pause, rewind, play. Pause, rewind, play. Excuse me a moment.

My parents always thought I liked that movie because of the action.

The Dark One posted:

Is that the one where he saves everyone by showering people in wildflower petals from his military helicopter?

No, that's "The Patriot."

I've seen way too many Stephen Segal movies.

Commissar Canuck
Aug 5, 2008

They made fun of us! And it's Stanley Cup season!


Saw this from a newspaper website I used to work for in southern Minnesota:

Some guy that loves bullet points posted:

Letter to the Editor:

Why Barack Hussein Obama should not be re-elected

* He has used the economic crisis to try and nationalize industries (auto, banks, etc.).

* He has tried to nationalize the healthcare system.

* He is a follower of Saul Alinsky. Alinsky is a follower of Marx and Lenin. The adhere to the communist/socialist beliefs rather than capitalism. Alinsky praises Lucifer as the first radical. Alinsky says: we (as radicals) are willing to destroy the values, structures and institutions that sustain the society in which we live. Castro is one of Alinsky's heroes.

* In 1986 at the age of 23 he was hired by the Alinsky Team to organize people on the S. Side of Chicago. He taught workshops on the Alinsky method.

* Alinsky says: lie to your opponents and disarm them by pretending to be moderates and liberals.

* Obama's adherence to his political beliefs are more important than adherence to the US Constitution.

* Acorn, the largest radical org. in the US was the focus of his political activities until 1996.

* When he became president, he named an Alinsky disciple (Van Jones) to be his “special assistant” for “green jobs”.

* Obama believes in the “re-distribution of wealth”, a communist and socialist view of society. Government controls the wealth vs. private citizens (capitalism).

* His spending has brought the US ever-closer to default and bankruptcy. His administration is now spending $4.2B/day more than it takes in.

* He has accelerated business-crushing regulations that are absolutely killing job creation.

* The Solyndra scandal where he wasted $538 million of your money.

* We have elected a president that does not believe like we do, does not think like we do, does not love the flag or the constitution and is not loyal to the United States over other countries.

He has proved our the above philosophies by the items below:

* He has failed to secure the borders of the U.S. and acts like it is not important.

* Used bribery and lies to achieve passage of Obama care. An impeachable offense according to Art. II, Sec. 4 of the constitution.

* Spent $825 Billion on a “Stimulus” package that has created virtually zero jobs. It was a political pay-back for people that helped him get elected. The American people are not stupid.

* Running up record deficits, more than any President in history, including George Bush.

* He has run up Federal spending to 25% of GDP, the highest since WW II.

* There are now only 58.1% of the population working, lowest since 1983.

* Printing money and destroying the value of the dollar and eating away at the retirement and saving accounts of private citizens.

* OVER 2.2 M lost jobs since he took office.

* Unlike Lincoln, he has discouraged entrepreneurial capitalism. In fact, he does not believe in the capitalist system that has made the U.S. the leader of the world.

* Nearly 3M more Americans living in poverty than before he took office.

* Gas prices up 80%---and STILL HE DOES NOT ALLOW DRILLING FOR OUR OWN OIL AND HE KILLS THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE between Canada and the U.S.!

* He inherited serious problems (Bush was no saint) but Obama policies have prolonged and exacerbated the recession.

* First President to preside over a Credit Rating decline, just like 3rd world countries.

* Suing AZ because they passed an immigration law due to the fact that the Feds will not secure the border. Now Alabama, TX and other States have passed similar laws because they have to.

* Giving a thumbs-up to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and encouraging the Palestinians (and Hamas) to lobby the UN for Statehood to slap Israel in the face.

* Border agents being shot and killed and sheriffs of counties in AZ and TX engaged in gun fights with drug cartel from Mexico due to our porous borders.

* Taking the side of Hamas terrorist vs. our allies.

* He has not kept his oath of office to protect and defend the constitution against all enemies. He is allowing our enemies over the border while sending thousands of troops to Iraq, Afghanistan and many other countries.

* He and his party have not presented a budget for Fiscal 2010 or 2011, thereby abdicating their responsibility as elected officials.

* Crushing small businesses (create 70% of all jobs) with more regulations, higher taxes and out of control spending.

* Lying to the American people about the Ryan plan to re-work and save Medicare from total collapse. Has not presented ANY plan of his own to save it or keep it solvent.

* He ignored his own Simpson-Bowles deficit reduction commission recommendations on how to cut the deficit. Rather, instead of cutting it like he said he would, he has added more than any president in history in just less than 4 years.

LOOK AT THE FACTS, NOT PRETTY SPEECHES

We need to pray that God sees our pain and gives us a new president that works for the people of the United States!

Karl Pelovsky


It's like a fountain of right wing talking points, both old and new!

Orange Devil
Sep 30, 2010

CUNT


Is Acorn ever going to go away?

Dr. Tough
Oct 21, 2007



A letter in which a Jack C. McVickers demonstrates that he does not understand civics. Also he doesn't realize that during the Korean War South Korea was allied with the US or that the entire point of the war was to defend that country from communism.

quote:

Can you help me out here?
Not being a lawyer, I am confused.

As I understand it, the Supreme Court has ruled that Arizona cannot have a law that makes it illegal for someone in the U.S. illegally to work in Arizona. Because the U.S. has such a law, Arizona cannot have a similar law. The U.S. alone has the right to enforce (or most often, not enforce) the prohibition against illegal aliens working in the U.S.

Here’s my problem:

There are also U.S. laws against bank robberies and kidnappings. If I follow the Supreme Court’s logic then Arizona should not have any laws against bank robberies or kidnappings, nor should Arizona apprehend bank robbers and kidnappers as those are federal responsibilities and those laws can be enforced (or not enforced) at the sole discretion of the president. Note that we also have federal laws governing voting intimidation but the president has ordered that “black on white” intimidation not be enforced (remember the Black Panthers in Philadelphia).

I also recall the history of WWII when there was a federal POW camp near Phoenix. As I recall the story a half a dozen or so German POWs escaped the prison and were at large in the community. Our police eventually captured them as they were hiding under bridges. Now how would that work today? First, since the POWs were under federal jurisdiction, the Phoenix police could not be involved. Also, how could the feds approach the escapees? They couldn’t “profile them” because they looked different, wore ragged clothes or did not speak English. After all, they could be German-American citizens who did not speak English. And the feds could not ask them for ID papers simply because they were sitting under the shade of a bridge. Or, as would probably be the case today, the president would not allow the feds to apprehend these escapees because it might offend the German-American voters to whom he was pandering.

Now consider that we no doubt have a few thousand Middle Eastern jihadists that slipped across the Mexican border into the U.S., bringing their kids with them. The kids have been filled with the jihadist theology all of their lives. But they have kept their noses clean (except for having false IDs and working without a permit, which are “non-crimes” in the federal parlance). Now at age 25 these jihadists apply to join the U.S. military and seek citizenship under Obama’s self-proclaimed “Dream Act.” (This will automatically give the parents a free pass also because the feds are not going to expel the parents of “Dream Act” kids.) Meeting all of Obama’s “qualifications” they are accepted and a year later they are supposedly “defending“ my grandson’s flank during a military action in Iraq. This is ABSOLUTE MADNESS! When I was in the Korean War I sure as hell did not want a Korean citizen defending my flank. And yet today 17 percent of our marines are not American citizens.

And while all of this pandering for Mexican votes is happening, each year we have fifteen million refugees who are fleeing countries where their very lives are being threatened. But they die while waiting in the “legal immigration” line … because they do not have relatives here that form a voting block to protest in the streets for them. And this is “justice” and “strong family values”?

What in the world is wrong with us that we permit this? Or do I simply not understand the legal “logic”?

Jack C. McVickers
Scottsdale

Johnny Cache Hit
Oct 17, 2011


Orange Devil posted:

Is Acorn ever going to go away?

No. The Republicans have fairly successfully redefined ACORN as a criminal organization, rather than a organization that broke no laws while helping underprivileged individuals that was wrongly destroyed by a conservative activist that loves the selective edit. It's a real win for them.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005




Lee Harvey Oswald posted:

Gotta love Soddy Daisy

Haha, this reminds me of a full page ad that was taken out yesterday (4th of July) in Memphis, TN's local newspaper, the Commercial Appeal (I'm pretty sure it was the Appeal). It had a bunch of quotes talking about America being a Christian nation and how religion should be taught in public schools, etc.

Apparently the ad was bought by Hobby Lobby.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"


Can someone, in a nut-shell, explain the whole acorn thing to a non-american?

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011



Baronjutter posted:

Can someone, in a nut-shell, explain the whole acorn thing to a non-american?

Obama worked (briefly?) with ACORN as a community organizer in Chicago.

ACORN was a large group with the main goal of helping poor/homeless people get aid, housing, and yes, vote.

During the 08 election ACORN did their job of collecting voter registration cards. Under federal law they can never, at any point, refuse, destroy, or demand alterations to the cards because that's disenfranchisement.

While doing this, some people made a joke of putting Donald Duck or the like as their info.

When Obama won, the right pretended someone used Donald Duck for a second vote, actually went to vote, and voted for Obama, which would have been fraud if it, you know, it ever happened.

During this, James O'Keif, a failed journalist, altered tapes to pretend ACORN helped him, as a persona of a pimp with child runaways, provided information for how to get housing and tax breaks and such.

The combo of VOTER FRAUD and ACORN LOVES CHILD PROSTITUTION was an overwhelming drone from the right, leading to them to sever multiple federal grants to ACORN in housing and such, which crippled the organization and eventually lead to them totally breaking.

The right pretends they still exist, in the shadows, like COBRA, working for Obama personally.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


It should also be noted that the "pimp" video was heavily edited to the point that it cannot be ascertained on what outfit that sniveling rat faced git was wearing during the recording of ACORN employees and after investigation by several independent sources is was proven that at no point did ACORN break any laws, contrary to the position of the aforementioned git who still lives with his parents while basking in the selfmade glow.

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Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"


So a really important and effective charity org was utterly destroyed based on rumours and outright deception and when later proven to have been undone by lies, republicans still hold it up as not only a past scandal but an ongoing evil organization continuing to do what it was proven not to have done?

What a country!!

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