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Baronjutter posted:So a really important and effective charity org was utterly destroyed based on rumours and outright deception and when later proven to have been undone by lies, republicans still hold it up as not only a past scandal but an ongoing evil organization continuing to do what it was proven not to have done? But you see, poors and minorities... So you can understand why we had to destroy them.
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# ? Jul 5, 2012 21:11 |
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The whole ACORN affair is straight up class warfare, but it went the right way for republicans so it's never framed as such.
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# ? Jul 5, 2012 21:15 |
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It's even better. The employee in the video actually called the cops with the fake information OKeefe had given him while pretending to be a pimp.
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# ? Jul 5, 2012 22:08 |
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Ytlaya posted:Haha, this reminds me of a full page ad that was taken out yesterday (4th of July) in Memphis, TN's local newspaper, the Commercial Appeal (I'm pretty sure it was the Appeal). It had a bunch of quotes talking about America being a Christian nation and how religion should be taught in public schools, etc. They do this nationwide every year (or at least in regions where they operate), for a handful of holidays. Hobby Lobby is a Christian-run company that likes to flout that fact at every opportunity. Hobby Lobby is actually a pretty decent company to work for, though. A buddy of mine had a job there for awhile: as an entry level grunt/cashier he made $10 an hour (in an area where minimum wage at the time was $6.25) and received vacation time and limited health coverage. They also open each team meeting with a prayer by the manager, but at least they're closed on Sundays! Kro-Bar fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Jul 5, 2012 |
# ? Jul 5, 2012 22:15 |
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Glitterbomber posted:The combo of VOTER FRAUD and ACORN LOVES CHILD PROSTITUTION was an overwhelming drone from the right, leading to them to sever multiple federal grants to ACORN in housing and such, which crippled the organization and eventually lead to them totally breaking. How rampant is voter fraud in America you ask? Surely it happens all the time. Nope, it's happened 13 total times in 649 million votes between 2000 and 2010. Also, no instances of voter fraud were found after a federal investigation into ACORN.
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# ? Jul 5, 2012 22:46 |
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Commissar Canuck posted:Saw this from a newspaper website I used to work for in southern Minnesota: I like this part: "* There are now only 58.1% of the population working, lowest since 1983." And who was president in 1983? Hmmmmm
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# ? Jul 6, 2012 00:18 |
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Glitterbomber posted:During the 08 election ACORN did their job of collecting voter registration cards. Under federal law they can never, at any point, refuse, destroy, or demand alterations to the cards because that's disenfranchisement. People working for ACORN were paid based on the number of registration forms they returned, which is why some obviously fake forms were collected. ACORN turned them in as required by law. No actual fake voters were registered. Somehow we never hear about how the Republican equivalent to ACORN actually committed voter registration fraud, which is the reason for the laws existing in the first place. The Republicans were registering voters, and tossing out the forms of the people who were registering as Democrats.
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# ? Jul 6, 2012 01:05 |
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Bubbacub posted:People working for ACORN were paid based on the number of registration forms they returned, which is why some obviously fake forms were collected. ACORN turned them in as required by law. No actual fake voters were registered. Somehow we never hear about how the Republican equivalent to ACORN actually committed voter registration fraud, which is the reason for the laws existing in the first place. The Republicans were registering voters, and tossing out the forms of the people who were registering as Democrats. This has been my favorite part of the ACORN "controversy" and the perfect microcosm of the right wing. They bitch, complain, and yell about all these injustices from their political enemies when they have done these things to a far greater degree and their accusations against these people are frequently unfounded.
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# ? Jul 6, 2012 02:39 |
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Bruce Leroy posted:This has been my favorite part of the ACORN "controversy" and the perfect microcosm of the right wing. They bitch, complain, and yell about all these injustices from their political enemies when they have done these things to a far greater degree and their accusations against these people are frequently unfounded. I may be mistaken, but I believe it is similar in cases of infidelity, where a cheater will accuse and suspect their partner of cheating because it is what they are doing so surely the other person must be doing it too. Ceterum censeo GOP delendam esse
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# ? Jul 7, 2012 04:16 |
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VanSandman posted:I may be mistaken, but I believe it is similar in cases of infidelity, where a cheater will accuse and suspect their partner of cheating because it is what they are doing so surely the other person must be doing it too. I've found this to be a pretty general truth. If someone accuses someone else of doing something really off the wall or ridiculous and doesn't have overwhelming evidence, it's really likely that it is something the accuser him/herself does or has done.
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# ? Jul 7, 2012 13:06 |
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Goatman Sacks posted:Technically he didn't since he never existed. Technically, it's very likely that he did, just based on the fabrications that had to be constructed to make Jesus of Nazareth fit the messianic prophecies of having been born in Bethlehem.
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# ? Jul 7, 2012 15:31 |
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Let's get this over before it begins. Did Jesus exist as described in the gospels if you take all of it literally? No. Did "Jesus" exist as a figure that inspired the stories told in the gospels with similar teachings to those recorded? Most likely yes.
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# ? Jul 7, 2012 20:45 |
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I think it's most likely that of all the various self-proclaimed messiahs of the time (one thing that Life of Brian gets very right, historically), one of them might have called himself Jesus, but most likely what we have today is a bunch of stories about a bunch of different self-proclaimed messiahs that have been blurred into being about a single figure, and which some people try to organize into something approaching a coherent narrative. "Jesus" is the name that's got attached to these stories.
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# ? Jul 8, 2012 18:47 |
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Glitterbomber posted:The right pretends they still exist, in the shadows, like COBRA, working for Obama personally. Which is why we need more stringent voter ID laws. The very idea that fraud in whatever insignificant amount could possibly occur means it's better to disenfranchise some voters just in case.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 00:56 |
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:It's even better. The employee in the video actually called the cops with the fake information OKeefe had given him while pretending to be a pimp. It's actually even better than that. In the unedited videos, he claimed to be a law student. He only pretended to pretend to be a pimp.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 02:44 |
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ThePlague-Daemon posted:It's actually even better than that. In the unedited videos, he claimed to be a law student. He only pretended to pretend to be a pimp. Also, they were claiming to want housing assistance to get underage prostitutes out of prostitution, not trying to facilitate underage prostitution, as O'Keefe and his cronies claimed using the deceptively edited video.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 09:13 |
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Sometimes I forget how much of a piece of poo poo O'Keefe is, and then I discover some new dimension of shittiness about him.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 22:23 |
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Indiana doesn't deserve democracy. This is the story. I'll spare you the Facebook posts but they're poo poo too.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 22:57 |
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Saint Sputnik posted:Indiana doesn't deserve democracy. Burn this awful state to the ground, god will know his own. If you'd told me when I was 18 that I'd still be here at 30, I probably would've cried.
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# ? Jul 10, 2012 00:49 |
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Man, I kinda used to think like that. I started in Oklahoma and moved to Tejas, and it's all right. The culture is really different. It's a lot more homophobic, but there's a coast nearby, which is cool. People eat breakfast tacos, which are good. Sometimes people complain that a restaurant or pool hall is too sketchy bc there are poor people there or whatever.
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Celot posted:Man, I kinda used to think like that. I started in Oklahoma and moved to Tejas, and it's all right. The culture is really different. It's a lot more homophobic, but there's a coast nearby, which is cool. People eat breakfast tacos, which are good. Sometimes people complain that a restaurant or pool hall is too sketchy bc there are poor people there or whatever. Well, Oklahoma -> Texas is going to be an improvement, I'm sure. California -> Ohio was not, in my personal experience. Ohio sucks (thanks, Kasich! ) and Indiana is a shithole. In my area I get a lot of commercials trying to depict Indianapolis as some kind of fun, romantic getaway, which is absolutely hilarious.
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Saint Sputnik posted:Indiana doesn't deserve democracy. Is there a link to that poll? I'm not seeing it in the AP article.
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# ? Jul 10, 2012 15:15 |
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bairfanx posted:Is there a link to that poll? I'm not seeing it in the AP article. It's just at a smalltown newspaper website.
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Mo_Steel posted:Which is why we need more stringent voter ID laws. The very idea that fraud in whatever insignificant amount could possibly occur means it's better to disenfranchise some voters just in case. If we disenfranchise all of the voters then there will be no more fraud. The only acceptable ID in the future is a stock portfolio.
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# ? Jul 10, 2012 20:24 |
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gently caress this place, gently caress this guy, gently caress this earth. This is from the local newspaper back home: this guy is a 'weekly columnist', which is code for 'my family has owned the newspaper for three generations, eat poo poo'. This paper is in central Appalachia, so plenty of people are on food stamps, but everyone loves his weekly right-wing talking point diarrhea. quote:CNN Money reported in April that “more than one in three Americans lived in households that received Medicaid, food stamps or other means-based government assistance in mid-2010,” citing a study by the Mercatus Center at George Mason University. His weekly musings are enshrined on his blogspot for perpetuity also, in case you're trying to build up some rage.
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# ? Jul 11, 2012 00:20 |
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Sizzler Manager posted:Well, Oklahoma -> Texas is going to be an improvement, I'm sure. California -> Ohio was not, in my personal experience. Ohio sucks (thanks, Kasich! ) and Indiana is a shithole. In my area I get a lot of commercials trying to depict Indianapolis as some kind of fun, romantic getaway, which is absolutely hilarious. Oklahoma's actually probably the best state to live in. Rent is basically free. Low crime. Relatively cheap gas. Tulsa is beautiful and can even be navigated by bicycle. Good food everywhere. Cool weather phenomena. Outdoor festivals and poo poo. Low unemployment. The poo poo you hear about homophobia and conservatism in the news is really puzzling because I've rarely seen it first hand in OK. TX has it everywhere though.
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# ? Jul 11, 2012 00:47 |
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Celot posted:Oklahoma's actually probably the best state to live in. Rent is basically free. Low crime. Relatively cheap gas. Tulsa is beautiful and can even be navigated by bicycle. Good food everywhere. Cool weather phenomena. Outdoor festivals and poo poo. Low unemployment.
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Sizzler Manager posted:Wow, I'd always thought it was terrible, but come to think of it, Arizona, Florida, Texas, Wisconsin, etc. are way ahead of them in bad legislation and rear end in a top hat governors. I guess the state Woody Guthrie came from can't be too bad. Yeah. One of the things that people harp on for OK is the liquor laws. In OK, an individual may only own one liquor store. Liquor stores may only sell beverages >3.2 % ABW. Nothing above 3.2% ABW may be sold outside a liquor store. Liquor stores may open Mon-Sat, 10 AM - 9 PM only. Other than the last thing, all of this is actually good. It all comes together so that there are no chain liquor stores, and each store has its own charm and market, kind of like a bar. Because they can only sell beverages >3.2% ABW, this means that they often give away corkscrews, bottle openers, tshirts, and tote bags for free. And really, why should anyone have to work after 9 PM anyway?
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# ? Jul 11, 2012 03:24 |
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Internet Cliche posted:gently caress this place, gently caress this guy, gently caress this earth. This is from the local newspaper back home: this guy is a 'weekly columnist', which is code for 'my family has owned the newspaper for three generations, eat poo poo'. This paper is in central Appalachia, so plenty of people are on food stamps, but everyone loves his weekly right-wing talking point diarrhea. What a shitheel. quote:President Barack Obama reminded a campaign audience recently, “We’re the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad [yes, that’s what he said], the Interstate Highway System. We built the Hoover Dam. We built the Grand Central Station.” Really? He's complaining because Obama said intercontinental instead of transcontinental? quote:And, according to Judicial Watch, as part of the administrations’ campaign to eradicate “food insecure households,” the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) awarded what the Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS) called a $5 million “performance bonus” for ensuring that Oregonians eligible for food benefits receive them and for its “swift processing of applications.” If it was even in question (it wasn't) that this guy is an rear end in a top hat, citing Judicial Watch clinches it. Wikipedia posted:-"Digging into questions about Barack Obama's ... and his gang's efforts to steal the 2012 elections." [28]
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# ? Jul 11, 2012 03:49 |
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Saint Sputnik posted:Indiana doesn't deserve democracy. If I had to guess I'd say only 11 people responded to that poll (0-3-8 gives those exact percentages). Not exactly a statistically significant sample size.
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# ? Jul 12, 2012 01:37 |
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An editorial against Medicare (yes you read that correctly) that among other things claims it violates the 13th Amendment.quote:A prescient and profound 1966 letter about socialized medicine
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# ? Jul 12, 2012 03:14 |
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Internet Cliche posted:gently caress this place, gently caress this guy, gently caress this earth. This is from the local newspaper back home: this guy is a 'weekly columnist', which is code for 'my family has owned the newspaper for three generations, eat poo poo'. This paper is in central Appalachia, so plenty of people are on food stamps, but everyone loves his weekly right-wing talking point diarrhea. The "best" part is how horrifyingly poor you and generally some dependents have to be to get government assistance in the post-Clinton era; 1 in 3 Americans benefiting from it means that 1&3 Americans lives in grinding poverty.
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Dr. Tough posted:An editorial against Medicare (yes you read that correctly) that among other things claims it violates the 13th Amendment. Coming from a country with socialised medicine, it's almost unbelievable that this article was written by anyone in the real world. It's mind-boggingly ignorant of reality.
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# ? Jul 12, 2012 04:44 |
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iajanus posted:Coming from a country with socialised medicine, it's almost unbelievable that this article was written by anyone in the real world. It's mind-boggingly ignorant of reality. It's not unbelievable if you know where it comes from, namely the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons. Wikipedia on the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons posted:
It's a quack journal published by a quack, right-wing medical group. Wikipedia on the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons posted:Positions
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# ? Jul 12, 2012 05:59 |
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Apparently you can say just about anything in the New York Times if (a) you are a noted Chinese scholar and (b) you are talking about China. For proof, I present Tuesday's editorial by Jiang Qing, who notes that "After all, democracy is flawed as an ideal" and that one of the members of his ideal ruling triumvirate would be a direct descendant of Confucius.Jiang Qing and Daniel A. Bell posted:ON Monday, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton gave a speech in Mongolia denouncing Asian governments that seek “to restrict people’s access to ideas and information, to imprison them for expressing their views, to usurp the rights of citizens to choose their leaders.” It was a swipe at China’s authoritarian political system. The view that China should become more democratic is widely held in the West. But framing the debate in terms of democracy versus authoritarianism overlooks better possibilities. link: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/11/opinion/a-confucian-constitution-in-china.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
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Dr. Tough posted:- For the American miracle to continue we must have less government and more individual responsibility. [Federal debt per person was less than $2,500 in 1966, versus over $45,000 today.] Or, in 1966 dollars, approximately $6700 per person, a little more than two and a half times what it was then, noting that then was before they started raiding Social Security, Medicare and Civil Service and Military Pension funds (which account for $1750 per person in 1966 Dollars) I hate this tactic. "Ooh, Poor people can buy Three TVs! Couldn't do that when I was a kid!" Yeah, cause when you were a kid a TV cost $500+, where as the today's TVs would be closer to the equivalent of $10-$20. My Q-Face fucked around with this message at 09:05 on Jul 12, 2012 |
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Dr. Tough posted:An editorial against Medicare (yes you read that correctly) that among other things claims it violates the 13th Amendment. The best part of this is the email at the end that is still at aol.com. I honestly thought AOL had shut down by now.
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Ani posted:Apparently you can say just about anything in the New York Times if (a) you are a noted Chinese scholar and (b) you are talking about China. For proof, I present Tuesday's editorial by Jiang Qing, who notes that "After all, democracy is flawed as an ideal" and that one of the members of his ideal ruling triumvirate would be a direct descendant of Confucius. So, a government composed of three houses, one controlled by the clergy, one by the people, and one by those of proper noble birthright and which has exclusive veto power? What a novel idea! Surely, this has never been tried before and certainly would never lead to any problems.
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A political scientist argues in the NYTimes that algebra should not be required in high school. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/opinion/sunday/is-algebra-necessary.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=opinion I'm guessing it's mostly because his high school algebra class was too hard for him. quote:A TYPICAL American school day finds some six million high school students and two million college freshmen struggling with algebra. In both high school and college, all too many students are expected to fail. Why do we subject American students to this ordeal? I’ve found myself moving toward the strong view that we shouldn’t. quote:Nor is it clear that the math we learn in the classroom has any relation to the quantitative reasoning we need on the job. John P. Smith III, an educational psychologist at Michigan State University who has studied math education, has found that “mathematical reasoning in workplaces differs markedly from the algorithms taught in school.” Math is about way more than proving things like (x² + y²)² = (x² - y²)² + (2xy)². It's an incredibly useful way of thinking and reasoning, and high school algebra is the structure that makes this guy's holy "quantitative reasoning" possible. I want to know how someone learns these statistical methods he holds so high without first grasping the concept of a variable and the kind of simple modelling that's done in high school algebra. He makes a couple of digs at calculus too, not understanding that you need a certain amount of calculus to understand where statistical methods come from.
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First they came for the cursive but nobody spoke...
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