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VitalSigns posted:No but seriously, he should take E-1 salary, no BAH so he can get in on that all-important thrift and discipline. Set the example for your troops Sergeant Major, you've got nothing to lose but the waste and sloth of a six-figure paycheck! B-but my dry cleaning bill!
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quote:I think he's just thinking along the lines of "There are going to be cuts—fact. We can cut salaries, or we can cut other things, like modernized equipment, which as the USMC we are not exactly drowning in as it is. Therefore, we must cut salaries for the health of the USMC." He's sort of an ant in the colony right now (not to say he's stupid; he's clearly not), in that he's going to advocate for whatever he thinks will make the corps stronger. That doesn't mean he's right or that his idea will even be good for the USMC, but I think that's where he's coming from. Gee, if he spoke like that he might have become the top NCO of one of the other services.
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Columbus Dispatch posted:Abortions also take our best and brightest http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/editorials/2014/04/16/1-abortions-take-our-best-and-brightest.html Those poor, genius fetuses.
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Yeah forget about funding or even just reforming education, teaching real science in schools, making sure every kid in America has a full belly when they go to class, making sure they have safe and secure home environment with parents who have the time to stimulate them intellectually, and reforming our higher education so that whether or not you go to college is based on ability and drive, not money or connections. Abortion is clearly what's keeping our geniuses down.
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Why aren't you loving everything that moves right now?! Your prudery could be depriving us of poets greater than Keats, scientists greater than Newton!
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Mineaiki posted:making sure every kid in America has a full belly when they go to class My mom gave me an earful about how terrible Michelle Obama's school lunch thing is. Her entire line of reasoning was "Kids don't like eating healthy food, so all that food and money is going to waste". I explained to her that I would rather have wasted food that kids wouldn't eat rather than kids who had no choice to eat at all. My family was on welfare when I was growing up (including free/reduced-price lunches at school) and my mom was a member of the Communist Party in the 70s. I don't know what happened to her.
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Eulogistics posted:My mom gave me an earful about how terrible Michelle Obama's school lunch thing was. Her entire line of reasoning was "Kids don't like eating healthy food, so all that food and money is going to waste". I explained to her that I would rather have wasted food that kids wouldn't eat rather than kids who had no choice to eat at all. Block Fox News on her TV.
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socialsecurity posted:Block Fox News on her TV. I'm tempted to do this to the SO's parents TV but it might just force them to sit around a radio listening to right-wing crazies then tell their friends Obama broke their cable box.
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Xombie posted:http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/editorials/2014/04/16/1-abortions-take-our-best-and-brightest.html Yeah, I am sure that kids born to parents who cannot or do not wish to take care of them would have, as a group, done great.
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And who knows how many Hitlers and Stalins abortion has prevented!
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Even worse, how many of those babies may have grown up to be abortion doctors? Or gotten abortions themselves? Abortion just may be our biggest preventer of abortion. 
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Mineaiki posted:Yeah forget about funding or even just reforming education, teaching real science in schools, making sure every kid in America has a full belly when they go to class, making sure they have safe and secure home environment with parents who have the time to stimulate them intellectually, and reforming our higher education so that whether or not you go to college is based on ability and drive, not money or connections. Abortion is clearly what's keeping our geniuses down. As I recall, one of the McCoy brothers once responded that if Abortion didn't happen, there would be no crime, hunger or poverty, because one of the fetuses would have been a supergenius who fixed all those things. They don't think problems are solved by sacrifice or planning - there is just one special person out there who is born knowing how to fix things.
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VitalSigns posted:Even worse, how many of those babies may have grown up to be abortion doctors? Or gotten abortions themselves? "You're very clever, young man, very clever," said the old lady. "But it's abortions all the way down!"
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Eulogistics posted:My family was on welfare when I was growing up (including free/reduced-price lunches at school) and my mom was a member of the Communist Party in the 70s. I don't know what happened to her. Like all the other boomers, the minute she or her husband started actually making money, they abandoned their leftist principles entirely. Classic FYGM.
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"I didn't sell out, son. I bought in. Keep that in mind."
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ProperGanderPusher posted:Like all the other boomers, the minute she or her husband started actually making money, they abandoned their leftist principles entirely. Classic FYGM. She is poor now, she's never been better off than lower-middle class. She takes donations from a local church group or something and works 2 crappy part-time jobs. If my little brother wasn't getting Social Security to cover his disability, she wouldn't have any money at all. She just doesn't have time to follow the news or something and believes what the retards around her tell her, I guess. EDIT: I do appreciate the assumptions about her character though, that's classy. Eulogistics fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Apr 18, 2014 |
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It also seems like your mom's position is that with the easy availability of junk food, programs aimed at providing healthy alternatives are wasteful, which doesn't seem like the right-wing line. I may be misinterpreting though.
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Eulogistics posted:She is poor now, she's never been better off than lower-middle class. She takes donations from a local church group or something and works 2 crappy part-time jobs. If my little brother wasn't getting Social Security to cover his disability, she wouldn't have any money at all. She just doesn't have time to follow the news or something and believes what the retards around her tell her, I guess. Forgive me for jumping to conclusions. Her story simply sounded identical to many others I've known and read about who went from commies to died-in-the-wool Republicans. It clearly isn't, of course. In fact, she may have a point about kids refusing to eat healthy. I know there's certain periods of my childhood where I was such a picky eater that I literally skipped lunch or only ate the bread off my sandwich or whatever. I do still think a healthy lunch program is better than no lunch program at all or one in which kids are served nutritionally bankrupt garbage.
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It's so offensive to suggest my mom is conservative rear end in a top hat when I bitch about her saying something a conservative rear end in a top hat would say and then ask the internet why she would say that. I mean, I'm glad she's not, but you did heavily imply that she used to be leftist and now she's not, and then asked what caused it 
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Eulogistics posted:She is poor now, she's never been better off than lower-middle class. She takes donations from a local church group or something and works 2 crappy part-time jobs. If my little brother wasn't getting Social Security to cover his disability, she wouldn't have any money at all. She just doesn't have time to follow the news or something and believes what the retards around her tell her, I guess. Sever, your mom is a capitalist parasite-worm.
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Eulogistics posted:My mom gave me an earful about how terrible Michelle Obama's school lunch thing is. Her entire line of reasoning was "Kids don't like eating healthy food, so all that food and money is going to waste". I went to public school from 89-2001, and while I was on the school lunch program for most of it, I rarely ate what was offered... I'm reminded of the time I was messing around in high school and tossed a hamburger patty, only to have it bounce up like a superball. Back then lunches were mostly things likr chalupas, pizzas, hamburgers and fruit cups (maybe an ice cream item too). Though, there is a lot of waste, mainly because (at least in LA) the lunch folks HAVE to Give you the whole meal -- juice or milk, vegetable, protein and fruit -- in order for them to count towards the federal subsidy. So the kid that just wants the one piece has to take all. LA made an amazing effort two years back to rework the menu. Students received turkey with potatoes, mushroom sauce ravioli, chicken pozole, hummus pita bread, orange chicken bowls, and a host of other tasty things. It was a complete flop because the menu didn't align with student tastes / palattes. Frankly, the high schoolers I spoke to had 'burger n fries or pizza' ingrained as a preference for a meal. The battle was over for lunch reformers before it began.
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VitalSigns posted:It's so offensive to suggest my mom is conservative rear end in a top hat when I bitch about her saying something a conservative rear end in a top hat would say and then ask the internet why she would say that. Eh, it's pretty common to get defensive when people make attacks on your family members, even when they're charges you believe to be true and often say out loud. As someone inside the family it's fine when you say it, but if someone else says it then it feels like an outsider who doesn't know the family member in question, which feels like an attack on the family and thus the person who was originally complaining. This causes a kind of instinctual defensiveness that's not rational, but it can be a very powerful and it's why I never lay into a family member someone else is complaining about.
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Fulchrum posted:As I recall, one of the McCoy brothers once responded that if Abortion didn't happen, there would be no crime, hunger or poverty, because one of the fetuses would have been a supergenius who fixed all those things. Isn't one of the stories in Freakonomics about how Roe-Wade in America legalizing abortion dropped our crime rate 20 years later?
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phosdex posted:Isn't one of the stories in Freakonomics about how Roe-Wade in America legalizing abortion dropped our crime rate 20 years later? Yes. However, a lot of research points to something else causing the drop off instead. Mainly the discontinuation of leaded gasoline.
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rkajdi posted:Yes. However, a lot of research points to something else causing the drop off instead. Mainly the discontinuation of leaded gasoline.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I thought it was primarily lead paint? Lead in general isn't good for you, but the gasoline is usually what got in the air.
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I was under the impression that no one is entirely certain what has caused the violent crime drop, with leaded gasoline and abortion just being floated theories.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I thought it was primarily lead paint? Really, they are the same issue--lead levels seem directly linked to criminal behavior. So much for all those free will types. But lead paint hasn't really been removed to the extent that leaded gasoline has. While both aren't made anymore, it's much easier to find lead paint chips for kids to eat than lead fumes from gasoline, at least in the free world. I used to be a big fan of the Freakonomics theory, especially since it gave such a nice retort to anti-choicers ("So which are you, pro-poverty or pro-crime  ") But it doesn't seem to be supported by the evidence, and also deflects the issue into cost/benefit analysis for society, rather than the simple issue of body/sex rights that abortion actually is.
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1stGear posted:I was under the impression that no one is entirely certain what has caused the violent crime drop, with leaded gasoline and abortion just being floated theories. You can play the correlation/causation card on it pretty hard, but you see the crime drop in many western societies at about the same delay from when leaded gasoline was banned in that country. The only reason I can see getting push back on it is free will types getting bent around the axle about behavior actually being dictated by genetics and environment, versus whatever soul or free will entity they think causes it.
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The freakonomics theory always sounded pretty hardcore (though not intentionally) racist/classist to me. Especially since 'overpopulation' isn't an issue with developed economies but the opposite.
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Berke Negri posted:The freakonomics theory always sounded pretty hardcore (though not intentionally) racist/classist to me. Especially since 'overpopulation' isn't an issue with developed economies but the opposite. Basically what I was trying to say. Though I'm not sure that saying "Kids cost a bunch, so if you're poor or middle class it can drag you down." is a classist argument so much as the reality of the current situation. I wish it wasn't that way too, but saying that some level of birth control helps the lower classes be less poor is a true statement. I used it when I was still a Libertarian, hence the attempt to turn an obvious social issue into an economic one.
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Berke Negri posted:The freakonomics theory always sounded pretty hardcore (though not intentionally) racist/classist to me. Especially since 'overpopulation' isn't an issue with developed economies but the opposite. Overpopulation typically isn't a problem with developed countries because there's free access to birth control and abortions, because kids cost a ton. In fact, I believe it was shown that in countries like Sweden where there's a fair amount of security for the average person, birthrates went up slightly.
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CNN tackles the question of our times: can the Klan rebrand?quote:(CNN) -- Pointy hats, white robes, crosses burning, bodies hanging from trees.
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Decided to skim the Opinions page and almost didn't read this due to the title.Someone who is literally insane posted:Will Flight 370 resurface? And the letter he references: Is there something in the goddamn water? posted:I keep hearing and reading about a missing jetliner. Can’t be missing. It was never lost, just stolen. The same country that “hid” Osama bin Laden for thousands of days now is a parking space for a giant jet. How difficult is it to build a cheap runway that will only be used twice? On takeoff, it will be a huge pilot-driven missile.
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CNN: Pointy hats, white robes, crosses burning, bodies hanging from trees.
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The Warszawa posted:CNN tackles the question of our times: can the Klan rebrand? And I thought I'd heard all of the Judean People's Front jokes.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Durrrrrr We house the dumbest motherfuckers in the Central Valley. When I still got the paper I would read the opinion section instead of drinking coffee in the morning for that wake-me-up that only rage can give.
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So my friend pissed off an MRA website- http://www.avoiceformalestudents.com/lulu-chang-vigilante-journalist-and-bureaucrat-from-dartmouth-college/ choice comment: quote:Straight up, feminists are slimy and sleazy. They claim to represent equality, or essentially human rights, but some major turd like this just exposes the movement for the hypocrisy it stands for.
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Remember folks, MRAs just care about mens' issues. It's not like they're a purely reactionary movement created solely to resist feminism.
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So close to a point, and yet so far. Because it's not as if the refusal to acknowledge female rapists and sexual abusers comes from some patriarchal view that female sexuality is inherently passive and weak and that the male in any sexual situation, no matter his age, must be not only a willing participant but the aggressor... Nope. Definitely a feminist plot.
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