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Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

I'm a heterosexual meat-eater and I'd probably running screaming from a liver with a vagina, too.

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Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Babby Formed posted:

Holy crap, spreading this around to everyone I know. I have family down in southern ohio who have seen people approached by these assholes. The bit where they go so far as to tell agents to never compare db levels to anything tangible, while minor, is hilarious in it's depravity.

EDIT: Worst "point" goes to "only have the husband look at the lease and negotiate if at all possible, it's legal to have just them sign it and them womenfolk ask too many questions." It's like they lifted this straight out of a used car salesman's book.

Can you tell us anything about your family being approached by these folks? Can they identify the company in question? Can you show them this and ask them if the tactics outlined in this document sound familiar?

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Grey Mage posted:

So what's the deal about stressing that China's bought more oil than us?

People are dumb as poo poo and you can get a lot out of people by appealing to nationalism.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

The whole "48% of the population pays no taxes" is a lie made up by notorious piece of poo poo Lou Dobbs. Please stop repeating it.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

lothar_ posted:

Ho no, I'm not going to be roped into another Facebook Retard hatefest. Last time I did was when Japan beat the U.S. in the women's world cup. I spent literally weeks fighting with "lets nuke Japan HURRRRRRR" idiots because my outrage got the better of me. If I'm going to get into arguments with that level of stupid, it's gonna be face-to-face from now on since those usually end quickly.

This was especially funny when the people saying it were also "HURR SOCER IS FOR FAGS" types.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Marksism posted:

I saw this on a Google news feed and thought it'd be a parody. Not at !

I unironically endorse returning to burning at the stake.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Tokaii posted:

I've never understood believers using this saying. If it were true, and of course it is not, it would reinforce the atheist argument that man creates gods out of his fear of the the unknown, especially the great unknown of death.

Did god come and reveal his truth to that atheist as the shells burst closer and closer or did he cry out 'Oh God help me" much in the same way some might cry out for their mothers in times of terror?

I remember Robert Anton Wilson being fascinated with the idea of men calling out for their mothers in times of extremity.

Anyway, I find it amusing how many arguments for theism are actually hugely insulting to either believers or God if you think about them.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Saint Sputnik posted:

Here's a couple retarded opinions, written in to the paper I used to work for. Background: Goshen College, largely Mennonite, decided to play America the Beautiful before sporting events instead of the Star-Spangled Banner, on the grounds that it's a warlike song. Good on them, I thought. I read an essay years ago that stuck with me, about how warlike language permeates American culture.

And it's not even like they did away with any patriotic song altogether; most people bitching about it probably don't know the difference between the two songs.



No idea why two people from Arkansas are writing in to an Indiana paper either.

e: On the other hand, the guy who writes in to my current paper most often is a little-known artist who used to go by the name A. Wyatt Mann.

He was on Gangland awhile back. Looks like Aleister Crowley did when he got old.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Amarkov posted:

Oh no, I wasn't trying to make a value judgement, just explaining what the thought process is. Remember when that news station literally supported the coup, and everyone got mad when four years later his government didn't renew their broadcasting license?

Oh god, I remember that. People were loving insufferable about it.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

LP97S posted:

That's an exaggeration if I've ever heard of one. The most right-winged media would only get even close to those Venezuelan stations if Obama was actually remotely leftist.

They've basically been skirting around the whole "Obama is bad and you should kill him" concept for three years now.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

trandorian posted:

It's still incredibly stupid to shut down tv stations for being mean to you.


Yeah talking about second amendment remedies for government officials you don't like is pretty clear.

The Venezuelan TV stations were literally telling their viewers to rise up and violently overthrow Chavez. That is not hyperbole. They were literally openly inciting violent revolution.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

trandorian posted:

And your point is? It was wrong when America shut down anarchist and communist media outlets throughout the past century or more for advocating revolution, it was wrong when Venezuela did it.

There's a difference between "Revolution is necessary, let's build to the point where we can rise up" and "right now grab whatever you can find at hand and go downtown and kill some folks".

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

It wasn't "let's go genocide!" but it was certainly "head downtown and kill the government".

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

CrushedB posted:

This guy has always had an incredibly childish and simplistic outlook on life in all his writing but today's took the cake:



drat "hyenas" and "sloths" used to know their goddamned place in society.

And what of the poor Young Lion. He was so well meaning...

Most of those are savannah animals!

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Hahaha, Bork was a loving lunatic.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Zeroisanumber posted:

Ford did the right thing by pardoning Nixon. It forced Nixon to admit his wrongdoing and allowed the country to move on from Watergate.

No, what Ford did was establish that there would be no legal consequences for Republican criminals. He set up the next thirty years.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

The concept of "moving on" after somebody completely fucks over the country has definitely proven to be a positive example.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

e: Where on earth did you get that pony av? Who did you piss off?
^^^^^

I want to believe that HL Mencken's ghost is going to strangle that guy in his sleep.

Pope Guilty fucked around with this message at Oct 28, 2011 around 16:34

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

It must be that they have chosen poverty, for to admit that my prosperity (and you wouldn't believe how little wealth the vanishing middle class has had to redefine prosperity to in order to keep thinking of themselves as prosperous) was anything but the result of my choices and my choices alone would be to admit that I might as easily be in their shoes. That is an unthinkable proposition; I am a good person and therefore deserve to be successful, and thus those who are not successful obviously do not deserve it.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Didn't Anders Loves Maria use "bork" to mean anal?

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

My only exposure to Frank Miller has been Sin City and The Dark Knight Returns, along with reading about Holy Terror, and he's never struck me as anything but a deeply unpleasant person.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

I don't think that that is clear at all, especially given Snyder's changes to Rorschach in Watchmen.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Install Gentoo posted:

Did you watch the full cut of Watchmen and still think that? The theatrical cut is different in many ways as well as being much shorter, the full cut is a lot more faithful to the Watchmen comic.

Also, I'm not saying Snyder is good at giving the Starship Troopers treatment to 300 or anything.

I haven't, no. I saw it a couple of times in theatres (I had to go a second time- the first showing was ruined because every single incident of violence or sex was met with gales of laughter from everybody in the audience, which started out as annoying and became disturbing right around the surprise sex scene, which drew much laughter), and the impression I got both from the way Snyder handles Rorschach and 300 is that Zach Snyder thinks that Leonidas and Rorschach are loving awesome badass heroes. I didn't get a whiff of satire from 300, which may be my own fault for rolling my eyes constantly through it, and Watchmen seemed like it major-league missed the point.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Miller is all too happy to depict Big Manly Men who are in positions of exploitative power and yet are somehow also the greatest defenders of freedom imaginable.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Bruce Leroy posted:

He seems like one of those people that does things in earnest, hoping that people will agree with and like what they have done, but if anyone criticizes them, their backup excuse is that it's actually a satire, so you can't really criticize them for the poor production and execution, you have to criticize the themes, genre, and other topics they're lampooning.

"Hey guys, look at this awesome movie I made about badass Spartans at Thermopylae."
"Are the Spartans supposed to be the good guys? They seem a lot worse than the Persians that are supposed to be the bad guys. Hell, they kinda seem like Nazis with spears."
"Um...No, wait, it's actually a satire of all those bad things those Spartans represent."

Oh, so he's Troy Duffy.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Verhoeven's scripts aren't generally stained with semen.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Saint Sputnik posted:

Short but sweet letter today:


Literally, this guy who wants an income he can live on should have been aborted.

To be fair, Warsaw is a pretty terrible place.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

I always imagine that these people are arguing about Jupiter and Hera and Saturnalia and Caesar Augustus and the perspective just waaaashes over me.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Some days I want to go talk about actual socialist ideas with some of these people, just to see if their heads explode when their minds are blown.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Brown Blitzkrieg posted:

Look I'm almost on your side (in that I hope D'Souza dies soon), but you can hardly say Stalin killed millions of people. Millions of Nazis, yes, and also a lot of people died from a famine, but why blame a leader for a natural disaster? Seriously, that's like saying President Bush killed people thousands of people by making Hurricane Katrina happen.

A lot of the blame for the famine comes from stupid, unscientific ideas about agriculture stemming from Stalin's embrace of Trofim Lysenko, whose inane ideas flattered the Communist leadership's ideals and who derided Darwin and Mendel as "uncommunist". (See also Nazi Germany's rejection of "Jewish science", not that I'm saying Nazi Germany and the USSR are alike.)

Myself, I'm always fascinated by how the millions of people who die early deaths from lovely working conditions and low pay aren't counted as having been murdered by capitalism.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

redmercer posted:

Just got offa work, thinking about having a cold one *phone rings* *beeeep* YOU WERE THINKING OF HAVING A BEER, WEREN'T YOU? I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO WORK MORE ON YOUR POETRY. I WANT TO SEE THIRTY LINES, IAMBIC, ON THE DOUBLE! DON'T THINK ABOUT EASING THE PAIN!

Sounds like a job for a lambic.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

That's poo poo that's been copied and pasted around for years. It's old as dirt.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Smith was actually a fairly impressive moral philosopher in addition to expounding economic sentiments that wouldn't put him out of place among many social democrats. Pity he's remembered and feted as a champion of amoral ruthlessness.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

In the 90's I was always hearing about how Bill Clinton was going to turn over America to the UN so that the UN could kill all the Christians.

I, uh, didn't live in the best town.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

The Macaroni posted:

Technically a comment responding to an opinion piece on the disaster that is Rick Santorum, but so thickheaded I had to share. With special guest stars "the race card" and "The Civil Rights Movement wasn't a good thing!"

That is the smuggest thing I've ever read.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

There's also something which tends to piss me off, which is the conflation of liberalism with socialism, which is a radically different ideology calling for a radically different society. The idea that paying taxes and getting government services has anything to do with socialism or Marx is about as widely accepted as it is complete nonsense, and this conflation makes it difficult to discuss politics in a sane way.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Dr. Tough posted:

He's still under investigation.

Has been since shortly after Obama was inaugurated, if memory serves. I hope either they wrap it up or Obama gets reelected, because I can't see that investigation continuing under Gingrich or Romney.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Bruce Leroy posted:

These right wingers are perfectly fine with authoritarianism and the lack of liberty and democracy as long as it favors them.

Right-wingers? I think you mean Western nations.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

Every time I read a Cal Thomas article in this thread I feel ashamed to share my first name with him. Holy gently caress is he consistently a terrible person.

He also has the smuggest, most punchable face I have ever seen.

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Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Bryter posted:

Google "ignorant rear end in a top hat".

Glorious.

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