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Guilty Spork posted:At this point if a conservative talks about white privilege you can pretty much assume that they're going to be massively wrong about what it actually means. I think quote:no matter what happens in society, we as white people are free from any sort of stereotype that could give some form of negative connotation towards our race as a whole.  tone doesn't help. And his unironic use of the phrase "we as white people" is even more  .I think one of the most interesting things to dissect in American political discourse is how the same terms are understood by the left and right. In this case his definition of privilege isn't really far off from mine, the difference is that I have an explanation for why it's true(structure), while he turns it into an us-versus-them proposition. He even touches on my favorite verbal grenade: "politics/politicizing," where the fact that people have *gasp* motives and desires somehow becomes a devastating indictment. quote:Tim Wise is not educational; his motives are like those of any other politician. He wants people to agree with a liberal agenda, the only difference is because he doesn’t run for public office and calls himself an essayist, and author or an “educator,” he gets away with these things that those kept under a close watch would not. I am completely serious when I say that I don't understand how people that talk about "freedom" and worry about tyranny don't understand basic power relations. There are plenty of people who haven't studied these things and don't care, that's understandable. But if you bang on about this crap day after day I would think you could take two seconds to educate yourself.
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VideoTapir posted:His brain shut off the moment Wise started saying Reagan=bad. Every incident he mentions was cited. This is my favorite: I will admit I never knew any of that, thank you. There isn't a  big enough for the amount of ignorance on display in that letter.
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Some loving moron posted:Cold, poorly fed, and chronically sick, a Turn-of-the-Century Billionaire Baron  Not one of those adjectives is true.
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Pththya-lyi posted:How does he imagine a poor person will actually take that?  quote:...suffer from fecal impaction.  NotgonnaWebMDthatnotgonnaWebMDthatohsweetjesuswhydidIlookthatup 
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Apr 30, 2013 03:46
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"Oh, silly me! Of course I can move away from the freeway! After all, costs of living are the same everywhere. I can't imagine what I was even worried about."
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Zeroisanumber posted:If Beyonce influences young girls to do anything it will be to replace their puny human forms with a being made of raw ambition, and I'm not certain that that's a bad thing. Lemme put it this way, what was the last word you got added to the dictionary?  I'm ready for the jelly. 
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May 3, 2013 18:56
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The Warszawa posted:Here's the thing, again: for all the "political correctness gone mad, Stu," poo poo, this is an example of someone literally getting a Harvard PhD for this poo poo, which is the antithesis of political correctness having anything to do with it. This whole post x1,000. Nothing is so infuriating in contemporary American political discourse as the invocation of empty phrases like "political correctness," or worse, the "race card." So long as conservatives react to poo poo like this with their wah-wah masturbatory persecution delusions they will learn nothing. This is a bit old but it gets to the heart of what I'm talking about. Kevin Drum linked to this piece a while back but the sheer awfulness of it stuck with me. It's actually bad for two reasons, for the ignorant dipshit the author writes about, and the cluelessness of the author, who thinks she knows better. To recap: the self-described liberal author of this piece gets into a disagreement with her Tea Party neighbor and basically decides "yep, we just see the world differently, we need to separate  " Look at how she paints politics as opinion:quote:As the husband sat down in our living room with his drink, he announced, "The tea party is not racist." We just looked at him. "The tea party is not racist," he continued, "because I am a member of the tea party." quote:We argued about healthcare and welfare, President Obama's nationality and religion, and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We did not agree on anything. But honestly, the issues were not important. What matters is how personal it quickly became, how vitriolic, how filled with hate. He said I was sucking the country dry with my support of food stamps and public education. He said I needed to get off my butt and take care of myself. I suggested he sign his kids up to die in Iran, the next place he thinks we should attack. He called me a spoiled idiot and worse. I called him selfish, shortsighted and worse. It was awful, and it went on until after 3 a.m. There's also a companion piece written by a conservative on liberals that borders on self-parody.
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May 14, 2013 18:02
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The Warszawa posted:Oh, it gets better: trying to segregate "Hispanic immigrants" as a separate "race" is loving hilarious, considering that the Hispanic "race" dates to around the time white America realized that Mexican light-skinned mestizos, criollos, and peninsulares might attend white schools. I'll never forget when I took a course on colonial Mexico/South America and our professor gave us a sheet detailing the racial hierarchy in Mexico. It had about 25-30 terms laid out like arithmetic, e.g. criollo + mestizo= ... Most of the terms I had never seen used to describe racial differences (coyote  ) not to mention, how the hell do you even keep track of all those terms?Never underestimate humans' desire to feel superior, I guess 
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May 15, 2013 14:10
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The Warszawa posted:Welcome to casta. You have to give the Spanish credit, they did what the Anglo tradition never had the balls to do (even if it did it de facto): literally and explicitly turned race into a caste system. The arithmetic aspect got me thinking... Juan's mother is a peninsulare, his father is mestizo. What race will Juan's wife have to be if he expects his offspring to be of equal or greater social rank to him? A.) Criollo B.) Mestizo C.) Peninsulare D.) Not possible, only peasants marry down Spain: Our racism can be expressed by inequalities! 
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May 16, 2013 01:53
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The Warszawa posted:Ooh, ooh: Juan is a castizo, and by marrying a peninsular, his child will be considered a criollo.  JohnClark posted:When I first heard of Poe's law I scoffed, confident that surely I could tell real crazy from fake. I've remembered it for a reason... Acrophyte fucked around with this message at 05:11 on May 16, 2013 |
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Kid Fenris posted:Ah yes, Charlotte Allen, best known for blaming the Newtown shooting on a lack of male teachers and buckets. Oh god, you're right. Why does this woman have access to a national platform, again?
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