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PeterWeller posted:
Yeah, I think it's more this:
than this:
Snyder makes crappy, offensive movies, and to parry the criticism he deserves for making such garbage, he claims his intent was satirical.
"It was actually satire, I swear!" is what the guy who made the Room now claims.
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YoungBuns posted:
I don't know that the Watchmen movie was particularly crappy but I thought it was a pretty straight take on the source material. Did anyone ever claim it to be a satire? If anything it seemed to be uncommonly true to the original.
Snyder's adaptations so far have been extremely faithful to the source material. Everything I've seen about his movies being satire has been people applying that after the fact, most often with 300, regardless of any sort of evidence of intent.
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Nov 14, 2011 20:42
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Kieselguhr Kid posted:
I'm sorry to single you out but this kind of bullshit is really terrible. Talk about Synder's work -- we don't need to tell little stories about him, or 'oh, obviously Zack saw how stupid his movies were and then claimed they were satire to save face. I don't know what's locked inside Zack's head, or how his attitude towards his works have changed over time. None of us could possibly know any of this, but what we can know is what's in his movies.
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say, but you can't apply satire to something if the author's intent was not satire. Otherwise you fall into a trap where everything affirms your world view, either by directly supporting it or by satirizing the opposition.
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Nov 21, 2011 04:53
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Install Gentoo posted:
Apparently you never watched 300 because the story is being told to you by a disfigured guy propagandizing at you.
That's exactly how it is in the comic book and Frank Miller was certainly not writing a satire.
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Nov 21, 2011 22:42
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There's really one statistic necessary to completely throw that whole rant out the window, and that's that McDonalds had over 16 applicants per position when they had their massive hiring fair.
Don't even have to get into how migrant labor is exploited, how destructive having an entire generation swallowed by debt is, or how unemployment doesn't work the way they think it does.
16 applicants per position.
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Nov 21, 2011 23:53
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Armyman25 posted:
There were orgies? Why didn't anybody tell me?
Because as the article states, they were untold. All of these terrible things happened, and the proof of them is that there is no evidence of them actually happening.
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Dec 5, 2011 01:30
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:
A Fairness Quiz for the President
by Stephen Moore
President Obama has frequently justified his policies—and judged their outcomes—in terms of equity, justice and fairness. That raises an obvious question: How does our existing system—and his own policy record—stack up according to those criteria?
Is it fair that the richest 1% of Americans pay nearly 40% of all federal income taxes, and the richest 10% pay two-thirds of the tax? They own a larger portion of the wealth, so I agree, it isn't fair that they pay such a low rate.
Is it fair that the richest 10% of Americans shoulder a higher share of their country's income-tax burden than do the richest 10% in every other industrialized nation, including socialist Sweden?see above
Is it fair that American corporations pay the highest statutory corporate tax rate of all other industrialized nations but Japan, which cuts its rate on April 1?2/3rds of all companies pay an effective rate of zero, so again, I agree it isn't fair it's so low.
Is it fair that President Obama sends his two daughters to elite private schools that are safer, better-run, and produce higher test scores than public schools in Washington, D.C.—but millions of other families across America are denied that free choice and forced to send their kids to rotten schools? Parents are free to send their children to any school that will admit their children. No on is stopping them.
Is it fair that Americans who build a family business, hire workers, reinvest and save their money—paying a lifetime of federal, state and local taxes often climbing into the millions of dollars—must then pay an additional estate tax of 35% (and as much as 55% when the law changes next year) when they die, rather than passing that money onto their loved ones? The estate will be able to pass on millions of dollars, untaxed. The loved ones have not earned that money and thus they must pay tax when they receive it.
Is it fair that Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, former Democratic Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, former Ways and Means Chairman Charlie Rangel and other leading Democrats who preach tax fairness underpaid their own taxes? And this discrepancy was later corrected. The system works!
Is it fair that after the first three years of Obamanomics, the poor are poorer, the poverty rate is rising, the middle class is losing income, and some 5.5 million fewer Americans have jobs today than in 2007? I agree, it's not fair that continuing the economic policy laid out by the previous president is not helpful, and it's a shame he extended the tax cuts that could have paid for the jobs of many Americans. It is also a shame that thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of government jobs have been cut because of these tax cuts.
Is it fair that roughly 88% of political contributions from supposedly impartial network television reporters, producers and other employees in 2008 went to Democrats? So you suggest that we should cut people off from the democratic process?
Is it fair that the three counties with America's highest median family income just happen to be located in the Washington, D.C., metro area? What are you getting at? Would you rather we redistribute that wealth?
Is it fair that wind, solar and ethanol producers get billions of dollars of subsidies each year and pay virtually no taxes, while the oil and gas industry—which provides at least 10 times as much energy—pays tens of billions of dollars of taxes while the president complains that it is "subsidized"? Oil companies paid a lower effective tax rate than the average American. Again, I agree that isn't fair.
Is it fair that those who work full-time jobs (and sometimes more) to make ends meet have to pay taxes to support up to 99 weeks of unemployment benefits for those who don't work? Unemployed workers paid for unemployment insurance. Do you think they should be cutoff from something they paid for?
Is it fair that those who took out responsible mortgages and pay them each month have to see their tax dollars used to subsidize those who acted recklessly, greedily and sometimes deceitfully in taking out mortgages they now can't afford to repay?
Is it fair that thousands of workers won't have jobs because the president sided with environmentalists and blocked the shovel-ready Keystone XL oil pipeline?
Is it fair that some of Mr. Obama's largest campaign contributors received federal loan guarantees on their investments in renewable energy projects that went bust?
Is it fair that federal employees receive benefits that are nearly 50% higher than those of private-sector workers whose taxes pay their salaries, according to the Congressional Budget Office? I agree, we should compel private employers to provide more equitable compensation. It is a shame that one of the primary mechanisms of this, the labor union, has been demonized and destroyed throughout the country.
Is it fair that soon almost half the federal budget will take income from young working people and redistribute it to old non-working people, even though those over age 65 are already among the wealthiest Americans? The elderly paid into Social Security. Why should we cut them off from that?
Is it fair that in 27 states workers can be compelled to join a union in order to keep their jobs? Is it fair than an employee can be fired for even saying the word union?
Is it fair that nearly four out of 10 American households now pay no federal income tax at all—a number that has risen every year under Mr. Obama? I agree, it isn't fair that so many families make so little, a result of stagnant wages and constantly weakened labor protections.
Is it fair that Boeing, a private company, was threatened by a federal agency when it sought to add jobs in a right-to-work state rather than in a forced-union state?
Is it fair that our kids and grandkids and great-grandkids—who never voted for Mr. Obama—will have to pay off the $5 trillion of debt accumulated over the past four years, without any benefits to them? I agree, that money should have gone to education and infrastructure spending, which would benefit many generations, instead of cutting the taxes of the most wealthy.
Mr. Moore is a member of the Journal's editorial board.
There, I took care of most of them using the same dumb glib snark the original author used.
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Feb 8, 2012 03:12
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Shasta Orange Soda posted:
Got a source for this? It sounds pretty unbelieveable on its face. The closest I can find is this study where 2/3rds of 12 (i.e. 8) large companies paid no tax. But the companies weren't selected randomly and the study was conducted by an organization called Citizens for Tax Justice, which doesn't exactly scream impartiality.
However, effective corporate tax rates are at a 40-year low of 12.1%:
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/02/03/418171/corporate-taxes-40-year-low/
No need to go for misleading stuff when the truth is damning enough.
My bad, in my haste I pulled that from memory, but the reality isn't quite as bad. I had been thinking of this
http://money.cnn.com/2011/11/03/news/economy/corporate_taxes/index.htm
But really, the point of the matter is that the editorial line about tax rates is deliberately deceptive because it isn't discussing effective tax rates, yet he talks about the effective income tax rate being zero for so many households.
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Don't forget he had Vince Foster killed and we need to be on the lookout for black helicopters!
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