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Cyn Greythorne
Oct 11, 2013
I would like to have a few miniature chickens for the eggs. They have to be cold hardy, but I do worry that a rough winter might be too rough. Also, after they have become aged and stop laying eggs, they would have to become pets, because I would not want to eat them.

Any ideas?

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Nevhix
Nov 18, 2006

Life is a journey.
Time is a river.
The door is ajar.

Cyn Greythorne posted:

I would like to have a few miniature chickens for the eggs. They have to be cold hardy, but I do worry that a rough winter might be too rough. Also, after they have become aged and stop laying eggs, they would have to become pets, because I would not want to eat them.

Any ideas?


Most birds are a lot cold hardier than we give credit for. I know a gentleman that has been raising Modern Game bantams (one of the supposed not cold tolerant breeds) outdoors in upstate New York for 40+ years with no extra heat.

As far as what breeds, most of your typical "heritage" breeds have bantam versions that are just as productive for their size as their larger counterparts. There's also bantam only breeds that were bred for production. Dutch bantams were bred by the peasants for eggs, since all large eggs were collected for tithe. Bantam Leghorns lay just as much as their famous standard size version too.

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:
Aww poor Sugar. That was like one of our bunnies we lost last month. She slowed down and just started fading out so we held for a few hours then put her back in her favorite box to sleep. She was still in the same place when we found her gone.

Sorry for all your losses this year VS.

Tim Jong-un
Aug 22, 2008

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:

I guess I dont take enough pictures of my non Cochin birds so heres my large fowl layers with some bantam mutts ive taken in from people as well. Some of the bantams are oopsie babies though.











unprofessional
Apr 26, 2007
All business.

Cyn Greythorne posted:

I would like to have a few miniature chickens for the eggs. They have to be cold hardy, but I do worry that a rough winter might be too rough. Also, after they have become aged and stop laying eggs, they would have to become pets, because I would not want to eat them.

Any ideas?
You are going to end up being a bantam cochin person, so just take my word for it and start looking for some.

Velvet Sparrow
May 15, 2006

'Hope' is the thing with feathers, that perches in the soul, and sings the tune, without the words, and never stops--at all.

Cyn Greythorne posted:

I would like to have a few miniature chickens for the eggs. They have to be cold hardy, but I do worry that a rough winter might be too rough. Also, after they have become aged and stop laying eggs, they would have to become pets, because I would not want to eat them.

Any ideas?

What country do you live in? You are more likely to find certain breeds that are more common to your area than others. Gonna push my personal favs though, bantam Cochins. Round, calm, affectionate fluffballs that make great moms. Do you want just hens, or a rooster also? Bantam Cochin hens tend to have smallish combs, the rooboys a bit bigger and more upright. How cold do your winters get? If we're talkin' vicious winds and subzero temps for months, look for birds with small combs to reduce the chance of frostbite. Old English bantams are tough little buggers but aren't as friendly and can be skittish and easily excitable. Both bantam Cochins and Old English should be pretty readily available. Bantam Brahmas would be a good choice as well, but may be harder to find.


Tim, that golden rooster practically glows, he's so bright & shiney. Is he a white Sultan mix?

Velvet Sparrow fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Dec 17, 2013

Nevhix
Nov 18, 2006

Life is a journey.
Time is a river.
The door is ajar.
VS, what did you do to your Old English to make them fli

Velvet Sparrow posted:

What country do you live in? You are more likely to find certain breeds that are more common to your area than others. Gonna push my personal favs though, bantam Cochins. Round, calm, affectionate fluffballs that make great moms. Do you want just hens, or a rooster also? Bantam Cochin hens tend to have smallish combs, the rooboys a bit bigger and more upright. How cold do your winters get? If we're talkin' vicious winds and subzero temps for months, look for birds with small combs to reduce the chance of frostbite. Old English bantams are tough little buggers but aren't as friendly and can be skittish and easily excitable. Both bantam Cochins and Old English should be pretty readily available. Bantam Brahmas would be a good choice as well, but may be harder to find.


Tim, that golden rooster practically glows, he's so bright & shiney. Is he a white Sultan mix?

Seconding the Old English Game recommendation. I've never had a skittish one though. I've had maybe three ornery males out of a couple thousand over the years though. Plus they come in every color under the sun (last count there were 38 recognized varieties and at least 10 that aren't recognized yet)

Tim Jong-un
Aug 22, 2008

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:

Thats Sherbert,hes a cross between a Lemon Blue Cochin and a buff Polish. His Polish mom was getting into the LB run during the day for a while and I accidentally hatched one of her eggs,so he was one of the oopsie babies,he got pretty large too.

piscesbobbie
Apr 5, 2012

Friend to all creatures great and small

Tim Jong-un posted:

Thats Sherbert,hes a cross between a Lemon Blue Cochin and a buff Polish. His Polish mom was getting into the LB run during the day for a while and I accidentally hatched one of her eggs,so he was one of the oopsie babies,he got pretty large too.

Tim, how many varieties of gallus domesticus do you have? You have Cochins, Brahmas, Silkies that I can identify, what are the others?

Velvet Sparrow
May 15, 2006

'Hope' is the thing with feathers, that perches in the soul, and sings the tune, without the words, and never stops--at all.

Hixalot posted:

VS, what did you do to your Old English to make them fli


Huh?

Did you mean 'flighty'? I don't chase them with sticks or anything...the ones I've had were just typical excitable banties, kinda high-strung. One of our OEG girls, Silver, was a Chicken Hell feed store rescue we got years ago. She was thoroughly wild and has only calmed down and now fully trusts us in the last three years (we've had her 8 years). This last year she suddenly decided to allow us to reach down and pet her. Nice enough birds, just usually not the type to jump into your lap.

As for OE roos,we had one years ago, a tiny little guy, who decided it was his life's work to sucker me in and then flog my hands. I loved him to death and he was the cutest damned thing...but to this day I have scars criss-crossing the backs of my hands from him.

Nevhix
Nov 18, 2006

Life is a journey.
Time is a river.
The door is ajar.

Velvet Sparrow posted:

Huh?

Did you mean 'flighty'? I don't chase them with sticks or anything...the ones I've had were just typical excitable banties, kinda high-strung. One of our OEG girls, Silver, was a Chicken Hell feed store rescue we got years ago. She was thoroughly wild and has only calmed down and now fully trusts us in the last three years (we've had her 8 years). This last year she suddenly decided to allow us to reach down and pet her. Nice enough birds, just usually not the type to jump into your lap.

As for OE roos,we had one years ago, a tiny little guy, who decided it was his life's work to sucker me in and then flog my hands. I loved him to death and he was the cutest damned thing...but to this day I have scars criss-crossing the backs of my hands from him.

I started a reply thought I deleted all of it and then made my regular reply. But yeah that was the general question. I've always Old English Game Bantams that would just come right up and eat out of hand and just in general be chill. Until a couple bantam Polish this year they were the most chill and friendliest birds I've ever raised (now that title goes to the bantam Polish, only kept one but she's borderline suicidal about being under foot, and if I let her will ride around on my shoulder while I care for other birds.)

Vaga42Bond
Apr 10, 2009

Die Essensrationen wurden verdoppelt!
Die Anzahl der Torpedos wurde verdoppelt!
I keep forgetting to mention, but these were on Dave Barry's 2013 Gift Guide:

Dave Barry posted:

CHICKEN DIAPERS
$12.50 plus shipping and handling from pamperyourpoultry.com
Suggested by Ronald Glondys of Venice, Fla.

Why does your chicken need a diaper? Here's a helpful quote from the folks at Pampered Poultry:

"Our diapers fit comfortably and allow you to enjoy your birds in the house or car without worry!"

So if you know people who wish to enjoy birds in their houses or cars — and far be it from us, in the 21st century, to judge these people — then this is the gift you are looking for. The diapers come in a variety of fashionable colors that will go with any décor as long as you keep the lights fairly dim.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/24/3778623/chicken-diapers.html

Dave Barry posted:

CHICKEN BRASSIERE
$19.99 plus shipping and handling from hensaver.com
Suggested by Terry Spurgin of Bedford, Texas

A question that we have all asked ourselves is: "Does my chicken need a brassiere?" To answer that question, let's refer to the website of the company that sells the Birdy Bra:

"The Birdy Bra not only supports a slow or pendulous crop but can protect a bird's chest, which is a common location of pecking of hens by other hens. Once blood is drawn the pecking can escalate, resulting in infection and even death. Our Birdy Bra can also be used on parrots that self mutilate."

That's right, people: If you are not putting a brassiere on your hen (or self-mutilating parrot) (which would be a good name for a rock band) you could very well be contributing to its DEATH. So if you, or some person on your holiday list, would prefer not to be thought of as a heartless murderer of fowl, this brassiere is the perfect gift item. It comes in a variety of sizes and colors, as well as instructions that probably make a ton of sense if you are in possession of an actual chicken.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/24/3778627/chicken-brassiere.html

So, gotta ask. How much use in reality will they have for people with chickens?

Vaga42Bond fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Dec 18, 2013

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Can you get a package deal as a chicken bikini?

Inveigle
Jan 19, 2004

SynthOrange posted:

Can you get a package deal as a chicken bikini?

Add a chicken saddle to that and then you'd have chicken body armor!

Humorous video of chickens' reactions to wearing chicken diapers for the first time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T-8-KJ9QxA
However, Chido's video of her hen first wearing a chicken saddle was much funnier. :D

I think Chido needs to get a chicken bikini and put it on one of the henhos (and post photos/video). :)

Chido
Dec 7, 2003

Butterflies fluttering on my face!

^^^ This is how you break a chicken's brain :3:

Nevhix
Nov 18, 2006

Life is a journey.
Time is a river.
The door is ajar.
Please forgive the juvenile molt going on in these photos that makes her tail look like trash. This is one of my keeper White Langshan pullets for the year. She's roughly 5 months old. I like you can see the cock lurking in the background. He is their sire.



The Rat
Aug 29, 2004

You will find no one to help you here. Beth DuClare has been dissected and placed in cryonic storage.

Velvet Sparrow posted:

Lovely girls! :)

If you've never had Polish before, watch her to make sure that she isn't getting overly head-pecked by the others. Crested breeds have a hole in their skull which leaves them more susceptible to brain trauma/swelling (plus the fact that their big poofs limit their vision so they don't see head pecks coming, so don't duck). So when they get pecks to the head (the preferred way of chickens to school each other as to who is boss) it can affect them more seriously. If she starts to have trouble walking or standing up, sways drunkenly, can't lift her head up, etc. I know a Vitamin E/Selenium treatment that has worked miracles for myself and others.

We had a Polish before that did all right up until a fox got her. So far this one is surprisingly friendly and adventurous. The other three new hens have been timidly staying around the coop area, but the Polish has been out exploring everything. She even lets me pick her up with almost no fuss.

For everyone's amusement, here's how Tet's crow has come along as of today. (The other vid I linked was when he had first started crowing.) http://smg.photobucket.com/user/rupert42/media/chickens/tet2.mp4.html

piscesbobbie
Apr 5, 2012

Friend to all creatures great and small

The Rat posted:

We had a Polish before that did all right up until a fox got her. So far this one is surprisingly friendly and adventurous. The other three new hens have been timidly staying around the coop area, but the Polish has been out exploring everything. She even lets me pick her up with almost no fuss.

For everyone's amusement, here's how Tet's crow has come along as of today. (The other vid I linked was when he had first started crowing.) http://smg.photobucket.com/user/rupert42/media/chickens/tet2.mp4.html

Sounds like he is getting better with practice! Is that a laughter effect at the end of his crow?

Velvet Sparrow
May 15, 2006

'Hope' is the thing with feathers, that perches in the soul, and sings the tune, without the words, and never stops--at all.

I'm sorry Tet, it STILL sounds like someone is shaking you at the end of your crow.



Never change. :keke:

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

The Rat posted:

We had a Polish before that did all right up until a fox got her. So far this one is surprisingly friendly and adventurous. The other three new hens have been timidly staying around the coop area, but the Polish has been out exploring everything. She even lets me pick her up with almost no fuss.

For everyone's amusement, here's how Tet's crow has come along as of today. (The other vid I linked was when he had first started crowing.) http://smg.photobucket.com/user/rupert42/media/chickens/tet2.mp4.html

I wanna squeeze that fat chicken, he looks very fluffy.

Inveigle
Jan 19, 2004


I really love this particular chicken "silhouette." The lines of the body and tail are so graceful. (Or would be, if the tail wasn't half-molted off.) :)


The Rat: Tet is so adorably fat and fluffy! His crow is so funny. :3:

Bonster
Mar 3, 2007

Keep rolling, rolling

Hixalot posted:

Please forgive the juvenile molt going on in these photos that makes her tail look like trash. This is one of my keeper White Langshan pullets for the year. She's roughly 5 months old. I like you can see the cock lurking in the background. He is their sire.





Langshans are one of my absolute favorite breeds, black or white. They have great personalities and an interesting history. I love the wineglass silhouette.

piscesbobbie
Apr 5, 2012

Friend to all creatures great and small

Hixalot posted:

Please forgive the juvenile molt going on in these photos that makes her tail look like trash. This is one of my keeper White Langshan pullets for the year. She's roughly 5 months old. I like you can see the cock lurking in the background. He is their sire.





I have a question for anyone really. Do the roosters seem to know who their offspring are? Hixalot, Tim or Velvet Sparrow, do your roosters seem to know who their babies are or do they care at all? I know, stupid question.

Tim Jong-un
Aug 22, 2008

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:

piscesbobbie posted:

Tim, how many varieties of gallus domesticus do you have? You have Cochins, Brahmas, Silkies that I can identify, what are the others?

Bantam and Large Fowl Cochins, LF Brahmas, bantam Silkies, couple of Americaunas and a bunch of mutt birds people have given me. I only intentionally breed the bantam Cochins,anything else just gets to roam with the production birds for eggs.



piscesbobbie posted:

I have a question for anyone really. Do the roosters seem to know who their offspring are? Hixalot, Tim or Velvet Sparrow, do your roosters seem to know who their babies are or do they care at all? I know, stupid question.

I dont think they know who their babies are but Cochin roosters are usually very friendly to any baby. Seeing a big fluffy rooster waddling around with a gaggle of chicks in tow is always cute.

Nevhix
Nov 18, 2006

Life is a journey.
Time is a river.
The door is ajar.

Bonster posted:

Langshans are one of my absolute favorite breeds, black or white. They have great personalities and an interesting history. I love the wineglass silhouette.

No question. They're such an ancient breed, and quite possibly one of the few "pure" breeds. They're my favorite by a large margin. I love all three colors but if I had to choose one I'd probably go with Blue.

As far as the birds knowing their own. I guess it's possible, more likely if you have hens raising the babies, I use incubators and brooders so no idea if letting the hens do it would make a difference.

Velvet Sparrow
May 15, 2006

'Hope' is the thing with feathers, that perches in the soul, and sings the tune, without the words, and never stops--at all.

My roos don't know 'their' babies, but usually adult roos (2-3 years old and up) will recognize chicks and youngsters as birds they be need to be especially tolerant of and they will act pretty benign towards them. Once the youngsters get old enough to be point-of-lay hens or crowing rooboys, the adult roo attitude changes and they treat them as adults--they're fair game. Young chickens--rooboys and hens that are inexperienced 2 year olds and under--tend to be meaner towards young birds and be more eager to educate them in the ways of the pecking order, chase them off food, etc.

Old roos are the coolest. This is Jack (at age 5 or so, we got him as a young roo), my old Head Roo, with 2 month old Ping perched on his back while they slept one night. I'd gone out after dark to make sure the young chicks were roosting properly and this is what I found.


What you don't see clearly is the other 3-4 youngsters that have stuffed themselves under him, although you can see a few tails sticking out. He couldn't sit down properly because of them. :keke:

Velvet Sparrow fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Dec 22, 2013

Mean Bean
Jan 19, 2012

My blood type is Folgers.
Hey Velvet Sparrow... http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3417601&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=64#post410898164

Inveigle
Jan 19, 2004

I demand photos of Meeko or Fred with a bow on them! Or any chicken, really. :D

The Rat
Aug 29, 2004

You will find no one to help you here. Beth DuClare has been dissected and placed in cryonic storage.

Velvet Sparrow posted:

My roos don't know 'their' babies, but usually adult roos (2-3 years old and up) will recognize chicks and youngsters as birds they be need to be especially tolerant of and they will act pretty benign towards them. Once the youngsters get old enough to be point-of-lay hens or crowing rooboys, the adult roo attitude changes and they treat them as adults--they're fair game. Young chickens--rooboys and hens that are inexperienced 2 year olds and under--tend to be meaner towards young birds and be more eager to educate them in the ways of the pecking order, chase them off food, etc.

Old roos are the coolest. This is Jack, my old Head Roo, with 2 month old Ping perched on his back while they slept one night. I'd gone out after dark to make sure the young chicks were roosting properly and this is what I found.


What you don't see clearly is the other 3-4 youngsters that have stuffed themselves under him, although you can see a few tails sticking out. :keke:

Holy loving :3:

Velvet Sparrow
May 15, 2006

'Hope' is the thing with feathers, that perches in the soul, and sings the tune, without the words, and never stops--at all.


Oh yeah, the fortune thing...Boots and a few of the others pulled that duty last year, I wonder who should this year?

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

Velvet Sparrow posted:

Oh yeah, the fortune thing...Boots and a few of the others pulled that duty last year, I wonder who should this year?

I vote for the Roos.

Velvet Sparrow
May 15, 2006

'Hope' is the thing with feathers, that perches in the soul, and sings the tune, without the words, and never stops--at all.

More goofy chickens pics from the past...

Zevon the Frizzle hen, now 10 years old, back when she was a wide-eyed, two month old youngster. She has since gotten much fluffier.


And Houdini, a mutt bantam hen, who went broody once and hatched two chicks. She was a first-time mom though and didn't quite get the whole, 'Don't squish the babies' thing when she went into Zen Power Brood mode.

'Guurrrgghhh, mom, yer on my head!'

Velvet Sparrow fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Dec 23, 2013

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:

Velvet Sparrow posted:

And Houdini, a mutt bantam hen, who went broody once and hatched two chicks. She was a first-time mom though and didn't quite get the whole, 'Don't squish the babies' thing when she went into Zen Power Brood mode.

'Guurrrgghhh, mom, yer on my head!'

That is some intense chicken broody concentration.

Inveigle
Jan 19, 2004

Velvet Sparrow posted:


'Guurrrgghhh, mom, yer on my head!'

Ahhh-HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA! That thousand-yard broody stare! And the baby going "HALP! Mom! GET OFF ME!" That's such a wonderful photo! :D

Also, Zevon is super adorable. Post an updated photo of her please!

Velvet Sparrow
May 15, 2006

'Hope' is the thing with feathers, that perches in the soul, and sings the tune, without the words, and never stops--at all.

Merry Christmas Eve! Don't forget to decorate your tree...


Be good and eat all of your dinner, Santa's watching!


...and go to bed early. No peeking!


Merry Christmas, everyone. :v:

Chido
Dec 7, 2003

Butterflies fluttering on my face!

:3: Merry Christmas VS!

Lynza
Jun 1, 2000

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
- Robert A. Heinlein
I love y'all, Merry Christmas!

Thanks for making PI a place that's fun to look at. :sparkles:

Nevhix
Nov 18, 2006

Life is a journey.
Time is a river.
The door is ajar.
Merry Christmas to my fellow feather brained goons. Hope it's worth crowing about!

The Rat
Aug 29, 2004

You will find no one to help you here. Beth DuClare has been dissected and placed in cryonic storage.

Dumpling and Tetrazzini have been fighting a bunch this morning for no apparent reason. They seem to be going at it for real, at least enough that they both have some blood drawn on their faces. I separated them by putting Tet in the large cage we have for chicks. Gonna let him out after lunch. Hopefully they both will have settled down by then. Not sure what triggered this, because they both grew up together and have gotten along fine up to this point. :ohdear:

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Velvet Sparrow
May 15, 2006

'Hope' is the thing with feathers, that perches in the soul, and sings the tune, without the words, and never stops--at all.

I've had two chickens that have suddenly decided that THEY HATE EACH OTHER AND THE HATED ONE MUST DIE, NOW. It's usually hens that have lived together without even LOOKING at each other for years that suddenly fight constantly for 1-3 days, then go back to ignoring each other again. It's gotten so bad that I had to take the worst injured of the combatants and isolate her for a few days to heal.

I have no idea what triggers this but it's a pain in the rear end when it happens.

Watch them when you return Tet to the yard, he's going to lose some status being isolated while Dumpling roams free with the hens. I always had to decide which roo I wanted as Head Roo and would take away the Beta Roo & isolate if they were fighting too much, it was easier than trying to reintegrate a Head Roo back into the flock.

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