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CPL593H: Oct 28, 2009; I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

JAMOOOL posted:

good article, unfortunately a lot of what he's saying is spot on. I get that QC is kind of an endeavor but the stuff with the inner sleeves now, christ, that absolutely is a problem. I go through a lot of those anti-static inner sleeves because like 75% of new records have those thick and tight glossy ones. you get the impression that the people who make these don't anticipate most buyers even listening to the record. maybe they're right! but I do and the lack of QC all around sucks. in particular the non-fill drives me nuts. I actually don't think I've ever heard non-fill on a record pressed in the 60s, 70s, or 80s. but you hear it all the time now.

obviously you can just return defective records but I talked to the local record shop guy about this and he confirmed that they usually just have to eat the cost, as a lot of labels won't accept returns, or make it so much of a hassle that it's not worth doing. the trick I've learned (maybe from this thread!) is to just order a copy from Amazon that offers free returns, and return to them the defective one. probably a bit unscrupulous but my morals get all jumbled up when dealing with predatory companies like Amazon. a lot of times the replacement copy is fine, though there have been times when you get one that's even worse, and every time I wind up wondering why I even do this? oh well. maybe it'll get better one day

The thing is I agree with everything he's saying, it's just that he's extremely annoying and the way he writes about it is what the kids would call "cringe". All that stuff he's saying is poo poo I regularly bitch about in this thread.

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# ? Apr 24, 2025 14:51

Stan Taylor: Oct 13, 2013; Touched Fuzzy, Got Dizzy

I spent way too long listening to records without using one of those brushes to clean them up before play. Records I thought were pretty bad sounding or had a skip just needed the slightest amount of brushing off crud to sound way better.

One of those tips that�s incredibly obvious in retrospect that I had somehow glossed over.

# ? Mar 20, 2025 16:52

u_s_eh: Feb 19, 2005; I AM ALL I AM NONE

I usually use a dry brush and an anti static gun before plays. If the record is too dirty for the little brush I�ll wet clean it. I�ll clean the needle every few plays too.

I�ve had non-fill issues a few times but it hasn�t been a huge problem. Maybe somewhere around 1/100 on new records. No problems on records pressed in the 80s or earlier

# ? Mar 20, 2025 17:19

Heath: Apr 30, 2008; 🍂🎃🏞️💦

CPL593H posted:

The thing is I agree with everything he's saying, it's just that he's extremely annoying and the way he writes about it is what the kids would call "cringe". All that stuff he's saying is poo poo I regularly bitch about in this thread.

# ? Mar 20, 2025 17:37

thathonkey: Jul 17, 2012

CPL593H posted:

Look at this revolutionary new product that will change the way we listen to records!

https://www.turntablelab.com/products/stable-33-33-record-transit-platter-turntable-lab-edition

not going to lie my setup is very cramped and i could actually use something like this. if it were at least half the price

# ? Mar 21, 2025 12:47

Bertha the Toaster: Jan 11, 2009

I had legitimately forgotten what version of this I pre-ordered other than "not black". Going to see them next week and I can't wait, without a doubt their gig in 2023 was one of the best I've been to.

# ? Mar 21, 2025 16:29

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JAMOOOL posted:

good article, unfortunately a lot of what he's saying is spot on. I get that QC is kind of an endeavor but the stuff with the inner sleeves now, christ, that absolutely is a problem. I go through a lot of those anti-static inner sleeves because like 75% of new records have those thick and tight glossy ones. you get the impression that the people who make these don't anticipate most buyers even listening to the record. maybe they're right! but I do and the lack of QC all around sucks. in particular the non-fill drives me nuts. I actually don't think I've ever heard non-fill on a record pressed in the 60s, 70s, or 80s. but you hear it all the time now.

obviously you can just return defective records but I talked to the local record shop guy about this and he confirmed that they usually just have to eat the cost, as a lot of labels won't accept returns, or make it so much of a hassle that it's not worth doing. the trick I've learned (maybe from this thread!) is to just order a copy from Amazon that offers free returns, and return to them the defective one. probably a bit unscrupulous but my morals get all jumbled up when dealing with predatory companies like Amazon. a lot of times the replacement copy is fine, though there have been times when you get one that's even worse, and every time I wind up wondering why I even do this? oh well. maybe it'll get better one day

Non-fill is more common nowadays because records tend to be heavier and thicker than they were in the past.

# ? Mar 21, 2025 17:23

sporklift: Aug 3, 2008; Feelin' it so hard.

JAMOOOL posted:

good article, unfortunately a lot of what he's saying is spot on. I get that QC is kind of an endeavor but the stuff with the inner sleeves now, christ, that absolutely is a problem. I go through a lot of those anti-static inner sleeves because like 75% of new records have those thick and tight glossy ones. you get the impression that the people who make these don't anticipate most buyers even listening to the record. maybe they're right! but I do and the lack of QC all around sucks. in particular the non-fill drives me nuts. I actually don't think I've ever heard non-fill on a record pressed in the 60s, 70s, or 80s. but you hear it all the time now.

obviously you can just return defective records but I talked to the local record shop guy about this and he confirmed that they usually just have to eat the cost, as a lot of labels won't accept returns, or make it so much of a hassle that it's not worth doing. the trick I've learned (maybe from this thread!) is to just order a copy from Amazon that offers free returns, and return to them the defective one. probably a bit unscrupulous but my morals get all jumbled up when dealing with predatory companies like Amazon. a lot of times the replacement copy is fine, though there have been times when you get one that's even worse, and every time I wind up wondering why I even do this? oh well. maybe it'll get better one day

I know a couple of our local shops won't take returns, even on new records. I think LITA and some other online stores won't take returns unless something is really messed up. They tried to deny a return on a super warped record for me since they couldn't hear an audible defect in the video I sent them . Kinda wild. They did eventually replace the record when I mentioned I had been a loyal customer for years and that we were all discussing the issue on multiple forums. At least one in five new records is noticeably warped. Most of the time it doesn't effect the audio but watching my stylus ride those waves is kinda nerve-wracking. Also. Almost all warping on older records that I have seen is due to obvious heat damage or improper storage, not manufacturing defects.

# ? Mar 22, 2025 00:23

CPL593H: Oct 28, 2009; I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

sporklift posted:

I know a couple of our local shops won't take returns, even on new records. I think LITA and some other online stores won't take returns unless something is really messed up. They tried to deny a return on a super warped record for me since they couldn't hear an audible defect in the video I sent them . Kinda wild. They did eventually replace the record when I mentioned I had been a loyal customer for years and that we were all discussing the issue on multiple forums. At least one in five new records is noticeably warped. Most of the time it doesn't effect the audio but watching my stylus ride those waves is kinda nerve-wracking. Also. Almost all warping on older records that I have seen is due to obvious heat damage or improper storage, not manufacturing defects.

I ended up buying a record clamp because of how many new LPs are concave. A while back I got a Discreet Music reissue from a five dollar sale on uDiscover (I think). It was just awful. So I sent them an email and got a free return label and sent it back. A second copy comes and it's exactly the same. I email them again and they just send another copy without even asking for the other one back. The third copy comes and it's the same problem so I just gave up.

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Akumu Gekijo: Dec 31, 2024

Want to have a copy of GNX on vinyl but the general consensus on discogs is they're all frisbees. Every. Single. Copy.

# ? Mar 22, 2025 19:55

Hot Diggity!: Apr 3, 2010; SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

Akumu Gekijo posted:

Want to have a copy of GNX on vinyl but the general consensus on discogs is they're all frisbees. Every. Single. Copy.

Huh? The copy I have is absolutely fine.

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Akumu Gekijo: Dec 31, 2024

Hot Diggity! posted:

Huh? The copy I have is absolutely fine.

?? Black? Color? Other?

# ? Mar 22, 2025 20:46

Read After Burning: Feb 19, 2013; "All this, for me? 💃Ah, you didn't have to! 🥰"

I have a blue "indie store" version and have no issues with it.

# ? Mar 22, 2025 21:29

Hot Diggity!: Apr 3, 2010; SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

Akumu Gekijo posted:

?? Black? Color? Other?

https://www.discogs.com/release/33072321-Kendrick-Lamar-GNX

# ? Mar 23, 2025 18:39

Akumu Gekijo: Dec 31, 2024

Read After Burning posted:

I have a blue "indie store" version and have no issues with it.

Hot Diggity! posted:

https://www.discogs.com/release/33072321-Kendrick-Lamar-GNX

It would've helped if I'd scrolled down to the US colored ones (the EU ones / US black look to be the problematic culprit).

Thanks! Ordered the blue from Rough Trade.

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wa27: Jan 15, 2007

My goodwill is clearing out everything at 75% off so I had to pick up these guys on a local label.

# ? Mar 24, 2025 00:32

Boinks: Nov 24, 2003

wa27 posted:

My goodwill is clearing out everything at 75% off so I had to pick up these guys on a local label.

I spot Herb Alpert.

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hexwren: Feb 27, 2008

definitely had a moment of "wait that's not michael brecker..."

# ? Mar 24, 2025 12:16

Turbinosamente: May 29, 2013; Lights on, Lights off

Bertha the Toaster posted:

I had legitimately forgotten what version of this I pre-ordered other than "not black". Going to see them next week and I can't wait, without a doubt their gig in 2023 was one of the best I've been to.

Ooo, how's the new album compared to their debut? I'll still check it out later of course just curious if it's as good as the first.

# ? Mar 24, 2025 13:07

Bertha the Toaster: Jan 11, 2009

Turbinosamente posted:

Ooo, how's the new album compared to their debut? I'll still check it out later of course just curious if it's as good as the first.

Honestly? I don't know yet, I've not had much chance to listen to it so far, although I quite like Hutt. From an initial couple of listens its more of the same, which is good I guess if you liked the first album. Nothing is blowing me away like Aaj but that's a very high bar to aim for.

In related news, my mate got their copy and it looks awful. For comparison my copy looks like this;

And theirs doesn't have the same orange hint, but baby vomit;

Obviously there's going to be some variation in colour but that seems pretty drastic. The vinyl is supposed to be a similar colour of orange as the cover which mine is, but my mate's is nowhere near. They've taken to calling it their Melted Crayons Vinyl.

# ? Mar 24, 2025 13:58

LessThanThree: May 2, 2005; 'till infinity

Some albums I picked up from concerts last year:

Idles was the most fun but Conan was the best (concerts and these records specifically).
Too bad Metz didn't have some of their older albums.
Tomb Mold is just as technically brilliant live.

Obviously if Herb Alpert (*edit was on tour!) I'd post that album everyone has.

LessThanThree fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Mar 27, 2025

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RubberLuffy: Mar 31, 2011

Recent deliveries:

Coheed & Cambria - Vaxis III: The Father Of Make Believe
The Rocket Summer - Hello, Good Friend
Death Cab For Cutie - Plans
Circa Survive - On Letting Go

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wa27: Jan 15, 2007

How do you guys store 45s in a way that they're easily accessible?

# ? Mar 31, 2025 00:42

sporklift: Aug 3, 2008; Feelin' it so hard.

wa27 posted:

How do you guys store 45s in a way that they're easily accessible?

I like these
https://www.sterilite.com/product-page.html?Product=16959012&mid=183

My 45s are just a haphazard mix of totes, mini crates, and loose wax roughly organized by genre.

oh yeah. new mix of vinyl record albums is up.
https://www.mixcloud.com/Radio_RapTz/moss-appeal-65-ft-pete-moss/

# ? Mar 31, 2025 06:22

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

I bought a pop record

Got the Target edition with bonus track, both CD and vinyl for $40 shipped on eBay. I really liked Abracadabra and Killah on SNL and her performances (particularly the latter) were, uh, killer enough to make me wanna check out the album, which feels like the first time in a couple decades that that's happened with a MG on the show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjbInjYp2ew

# ? Apr 1, 2025 04:36

Barry: Aug 1, 2003; Hardened Criminal

CPL593H posted:

I read maybe half of this article and now I fully understand exactly how annoying I sound.

https://louderthanwar.com/the-great-vinyl-record-buying-swindle-unexpurgated-version/

He has some points but my god, what a whiny bitch

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beepo: Oct 8, 2000; Forum Veteran

Yeah, I remember the first time I saw you
And you were standing there looking all lovely and everything

# ? Apr 3, 2025 22:04

CPL593H: Oct 28, 2009; I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

pwn posted:

I bought a pop record

Excommunicado.

# ? Apr 3, 2025 22:12

The Senator Giroux: Jul 9, 2006; Dead Ringer

beepo posted:

Yeah, I remember the first time I saw you
And you were standing there looking all lovely and everything

Fuuuuuuuuck im jealous

# ? Apr 3, 2025 23:02

CPL593H: Oct 28, 2009; I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

One of my favorite things about collecting records is how many 70s rock bands looked like absolute loving goobers. Just look at these loving guys.

# ? Apr 4, 2025 00:35

sporklift: Aug 3, 2008; Feelin' it so hard.

beepo posted:

Yeah, I remember the first time I saw you
And you were standing there looking all lovely and everything

Nice. I miss the days when singles would have non album tracks. Speaking of singles, was someone in this thread looking for the Dr. Detroit Devo 12 in?

# ? Apr 4, 2025 04:53

pwn: May 27, 2004; This Christmas get "Shoes"

CPL593H posted:

Excommunicado.

Hey! I at least played it, which is more than you can say about most copies out there.

It's a bop (shocker!) 15 songs, three sides, five each side, fourth is etching. Side C is calmest, so the club kids know they can skip it. My old rear end welcomed the slowdown.

# ? Apr 4, 2025 05:10

Ballz: Dec 16, 2003; it's mario time

beepo posted:

Yeah, I remember the first time I saw you
And you were standing there looking all lovely and everything

Picked this up a few years ago and I�ve jokingly stored it alongside my 1950s/60s classical records that the cover is parodying.

# ? Apr 4, 2025 07:20

Creature: Mar 9, 2009; We've already seen a dead horse

CPL593H posted:

One of my favorite things about collecting records is how many 70s rock bands looked like absolute loving goobers. Just look at these loving guys.

Dude's got some serious Saville vibes going on 😶

# ? Apr 4, 2025 07:50

I, Butthole: Jun 30, 2007; Begin the operations of the gas chambers, gas schools, gas universities, gas libraries, gas museums, gas dance halls, and gas threads, etcetera.
I DEMAND IT

Where's my 20th anniversary release of new Pornographers' Twin Cinema? If I'm getting old by realising my favourite albums are getting old, I want a cool new version :colbert:

# ? Apr 4, 2025 08:22

Nihonniboku: Aug 11, 2004; YOU CAN FLY!!!

I, Butthole posted:

Where's my 20th anniversary release of new Pornographers' Twin Cinema? If I'm getting old by realising my favourite albums are getting old, I want a cool new version

Its so weird. The last few years I've been going to a lot of concerts for bands celebrating the 20 year anniversary of their first album, all favorites from back when I was in college.

# ? Apr 4, 2025 18:34

Cemetry Gator: Apr 3, 2007; Do you find something comical about my appearance when I'm driving my automobile?

CPL593H posted:

One of my favorite things about collecting records is how many 70s rock bands looked like absolute loving goobers. Just look at these loving guys.

Why are there so many clones of Lars Ulrich?

# ? Apr 4, 2025 18:58

Akumu Gekijo: Dec 31, 2024

Can confirm blue GNX is a winner. The bass is disgusting. The dogs next door were barking along.

Anticipating a vinyl shortage coming. Crossed between stocking up now or just waiting it out.

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Hekk: Oct 12, 2012; 'smeper fi

edit- double post

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# ? Apr 24, 2025 14:51

Hekk: Oct 12, 2012; 'smeper fi

This upcoming RSD release list is extremely underwhelming. I look at some of this stuff and wonder who is buying all this crap?

I went to my local record store yesterday and they were kind enough to let me know that I could get up to 8 releases next weekend without having to go back through the line (since I am a club member or whatever). I looked through the list and can see like maybe 1 or 2 albums I'd pick up.

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