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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Time to come forth from the woodwork-

This weekend's haul:

Bowie in Brecht's Baal is awesome (Theaterqueer ITT :gay:)

My recent prides and joys:

Rank and Hatful of Hollow are slightly warped, but I haven't noticed any appreciable sound effects (maybe I'm just saying that so I won't feel like I got ripped off. Don't care, I'm a Smiths-whore).

As for that new remastered box set: I'll probably pick up the CD/MP3 box sometime in the future. The idea of buying a vinyl copy of a 25 year old album that's been remastered on a computer- and to pay more than double for it than the equivalent FLAC- seems ridiculous to me. It's one thing to have an original copy (or spend a few dollars more on a recent release) but these "anniversary edition" reprint LPs are just an excuse to pay far out the rear end for the "privilege" of the "old" music being on vinyl. It's the same drat cut that goes into iTunes with the added appreciation that you bought a gimmick.

Murmur and Life's Rich Pageant are mint- aside from reaaally tiny cards that say they're radio station promo copies. :10bux: says they come from Yale :eng101:.

Carl Sagan and Stephen Hawking are cool:


So is this b-side

I know this has been posted before....but look at it.

Colored Vinyl Ahoy (and other things):

I've also got blue/yellow Embryonic, blue-grey Silent Shout, and clear TKOL, but so does everyone else. I got Halcyon Digest today, and was pleasantly surprised to find out it was white. A P-Funk album and Supercollider/The Butcher are there too, but those aren't colorful (The green disc is Husband's Love Song/Slow Motion- sorry if it looked like it was the Parliament comp).

And my most recent sploosh/headache:

I saw this and snatched it up without really knowing what its deal was. I'm an absolute sucker for the Talking Heads and the price was good. As you can see, the corner's a bit hosed :( but the LP's fine.

When I got it home, I looked it up as best I could- and couldn't get a lot of info aside from it being a 2010 release with a limited run (apparently 250 colored copies and 500 numbered black ones?) and hand-screened cover.

The catch is, this one doesn't have any of the text on the back cover that comes with the numbered editions (Those say something like: "These recordings were made by the Talking Heads at CBS Studios in 1975....This is print number_____ of 500.") or a number. The cover and label are definitely handmade, and nothing's been able to tell me if they made a general (non-special edition) pressing as well (from the looks of it, this is just a limited run). Is my record less special or more? Have I got a bootleg of a bootleg?

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Nov 2, 2011

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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

CPL593H posted:

The Smiths reissues from Rhino are digital remasters? I thought they were all analog pressings.

Welp, I could always be very wrong...

But my point on commemorative reissues still stands- you're looking at a case where the audio quality's going to be identical to the MP3's without any of the portability or ease- and commemorative LPs almost never come with downloads. Many old LP tracks sound better-or at least different- than their MP3/CD counterparts because the masters have been lost/destroyed/degraded and they've had to make due with "find the best release copy and rip it"- and many of these rips were done in the early '80s with less than ideal equipment by today's standards (Anyone who's heard the old Beatles CDs knows how comparatively lovely some rips can be). There's something sort of "extra pretentious and fake" to me about getting a new print of old vinyl- especially if its source isn't going to be the same or as good as the original master.

I know this is totally :goonsay: though.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Nov 2, 2011

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

big business sloth posted:

That TH thing owns dude, wicked find. Never heard of it either. Of course this means now my collection is incomplete, so also gently caress you, but still

You can find it on some independent web sites for $15 (how much it goes/went for originally) to $50+. Also, I've heard a lot of record stores still have some available so it never hurts to look. The one I picked mine up at had 2 or 3 around (in CT, but I won't say where. I'm gonna go back tomorrow and try to find out about my numberless one and pick up another/better copy so I can give one as a gift-or not :colbert:).

If anybody knows anything about this run (like why mine's numberless) I would love to hear it. I will literally die if I don't know.

But the contents of this comp are fantastic. There are free rips all over the net and they are definitely worth a listen, even if you can't get an LP. We're talking 'earliest recordings of the band'- back when they were a trio. Legend has it that David was still giving Tina last-minute bass lessons on the cab ride to the first session.

I've also got 'Fear of Music,' the original 'Stop Making Sense,' and 'Little creatures' LPs. TH '77, More Songs, and Remain In Light are my Moltres, Zapdos, and Articuno.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

JehovahsWetness posted:

Simplest explanation? The "500 pressed" thing is probably bullshit, as is the case with a lot of boots. There may be 500 *numbered* copies but that's not the entire run. I mean, the unit price per LP @ 500 vs. per LP @ 1000+ isn't too much different and it's a boot (that's been existed in some form for a while) so it's not like the guy doing it has to pay unit royalties or keep track of any of that. Just looking around the net it's been widely distributed and is still readily available, so there's obviously more than 500 copies in circulation.

Makes plenty of sense to me. It also explains why nobody big had any info on the thing (It's apparently a "Fan Club" LP, but I doubt the TH have an official fan club at this point). As awesome as the recordings are (and they are awesome), I feel a bit bad about it being unofficial. While I'm sure David and company aren't at all hurting for cash or anything like that, a big part of why I really like vinyl is the idea that you're contributing more directly to the artist these days than with MP3s (not to mention the artists and artisans behind the actual LP-making process)- especially in the face of piracy. The Heads were never overwhelmingly popular in their run so that makes me feel it a bit more- in the same way I might be extra conscious of contributing to current bands with smaller followings or more independent business practices- and, thus, buy an LP from them.

I remember hearing once that part of Johnny Marr's motivation to remaster and re-release the Smiths catalogue was to chuck a bit of change Mike and Andy's way. Don't know how much of that's true, but they both got reamed in the assets trial (whether rightfully so or not) and Mike talked about being in a tough place financially a few years ago- apparently enough to have to Ebay off some one-off recordings he had.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Crossposted from the A/V Arena Vinyl Equipment Thread for everybody commenting on how to display their vinyl and suggesting sad-looking $20 frames:

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/40126069/

There are 2 sizes and various colors. Just pop one of these on the wall above your setup, with maybe a large picture or framed poster above it, and you're set in a way that looks much better than those cramped-looking LP frames and for less money. If you're worried about warping any LPs or bending any sleeves that you might lean up there for a long time, you could easily cut a rectangle or some squares of foam board/cardboard/laminate to put behind them.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

cosmicjim posted:

10$ for that... I think records leaned against the wall on a cheap ledge is uglier than cheap frames, but that's my opinion.

Well, 15 for the really long ledge....and I think they do look nice when you put multiple ones together and stack stuff of different sizes on them.

I've got a few over my couch, but I like to change my artwork/pictures a lot without putting many holes up and I use the one I have above my hifi to put the covers for records I'm using at the moment/ show off different-sized stuff that wouldn't fit easily in a frame. But different strokes, I guess :shobon:.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

CPL593H posted:

I've seen those Smiths reissues in stores and could have sworn they had the "remastered from the original analog tapes" sticker on them. And even then, some digitally sourced LPs sound better than their iTunes counterparts because they are mastered differently from the MP3. A good example of this is the difference in sound between the Them Crooked Vultures CD and LP.

Well, color me very wrong then :shobon:.

Dammit, now I'm interested in the vinyl set. But $160 vs. $70 on CD and $50 on iTunes.......vinyl is like a musical cookie for me, it's a "sometimes food."

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

big business sloth posted:

That TH thing owns dude, wicked find. Never heard of it either. Of course this means now my collection is incomplete, so also gently caress you, but still

Ask your record store about it. I went back to the place I bought mine (Redscroll Records in CT) and picked another up for a friend. The guys there said they had a small shipment of them come in from the source in NY and could get a few more (They do some online stuff too, so if you email them, they might ship one to you).

When I asked them about the numbers (or lack thereof) they said, "Yeah. Well, we're not too clear on that either. We've heard that it's just supposed to be a run of 500....and we've also heard that that's bullshit. It might just be that a bunch of them didn't get numbered, or that the printers did some 'limited run, special run, regular run' crap and didn't tell anyone. The sleeve's definitely handprinted and it's nice vinyl. We're just chalking it up to 'loving Bootleggers being Bootleggers.":shobon:

It's a sweet recording, and I'm not really bummed about $14 either way, so I'm not gonna overthink it and just enjoy having it.

MokBa posted:



gently caress you for making me go to Urban loving Outfitters to buy an album I already had.......But yeah, it's pretty gorgeous so no regrets, I guess.

I also picked up the stone/tie-dye Metals, but at least that one was "only" 14 bucks and came with the download.

I have to stop reading this thread. You people and your neat finds are wallet poison.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Nov 3, 2011

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

klonkadonk posted:

I was about to get that M83 record after their concert here finished up, but as I got up to the counter, somebody took the last one along with Before The Dawn Heals Us. :negative:

Was it the special colorful version? Because I thought that Urban Outfitters had an exclusive deal on it.

(Case in point, my friend just picked a copy up at a local record store because he didn't believe me. The records were black- but at least that one came with a download code :smith:)

FYI: Urban Outfitters is selling the exclusive edition on their website, along with their also-exclusive versions of Feist's Metals in tie-dye grey (which is much prettier than I made it sound) and Bon Iver in.....red(?)- if you don't live in the US/don't want to set foot in an Urban Outfitters.

My sister tells me their shipping is quite good.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
'And lo, the arguing ceased, for Electric Bugaloo had descended from the mountain to share in his most recent acquisitions. And the angry goons gazed upon the light. And their shrill hoots were placated as they beheld his post and the beauty it contained....



The National
I picked up the clear "Think You Can Wait"/"Exile Vilify" 7" when I saw them live (for the second time :neckbeard:) at the Beacon in December. The yellow "Boxer" and electric green "Alligator" were from 4AD's year-end sale. I think they're still available there though "in limited quantities."



New Old Stuff



Christmas Cheer
Redscroll Records in Wallingford, CT has a special where you get to pick out a free holiday LP from a crate if you spend more than $20. The dude was like, "take three or four" and then my friend gave me his haul. Those won't ever get listened to at Christmas. I'mma play 'em at my next party.



Atlas Sound
To qualify for those free Christmas records.



Hmmmm?
II passed by Merle's in Orange, CT this afternoon and browsed around. Aside from learning that they'd gotten and quickly sold a big stash of Smiths stuff over the holidays (:rage:) and that their one token copy of "Sandinista" was missing a disc (one away from having all of the major Clash records), I found this.

I already had one (pictured up top) and the signature's dollars-to-donuts a fake, but for 6 bucks I think it's worth having for curiosity's sake. The record's in better shape than my other copy anyway.



Zoom in and Enhance!
It says: "To my one + only fan Erik Bubel. Keep rapping brother!!- Beastie Boys." Dated to December 1986, in what looks like possibly different handwriting (the 'e's and 'r's are noticeably different in person)- still think it's probably fake.

I've picked up a bunch more stuff over the last few months. Lots of Radiohead (of course), some old movie soundtracks, current releases, etc.

EDIT: I swear I rotated those pictures in Imgur. I did it several times, in fact. Sorry if half are sideways.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Jan 11, 2012

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Cpt. Spring Types posted:

I think part of the problem is also that record companies want to sell an image more than they want to sell music. Take a look at Kings of Leon. When they first started out, they were these kinda scraggly looking country dudes making gritty, original, upbeat southern rock. Once they switched to a major label, they become these stylish pretty boys and now all of their music sounds exactly the same, and may as well be Coldplay or something.

Lana Del Rey is another good example. No one had heard of her last summer when her first single was released, and almost immediately afterward, she's featured on magazine covers, getting her two songs played constantly, music videos, the whole shebang. She was even on SNL this weekend, despite not even having an album out yet. Because her music isn't what's for sale, her look and style are. If you saw her SNL performance, you know that's pretty much all she has going for her outside of the studio.

Still, even with all the manufactured garbage out there, there are plenty of artists who make really quality albums consistently. :)

I feel sort of ambivalent about KOL and acts like them. I never got into their music when they were 'weird' and I definitely didn't get into it when they got huge. That said, what little I did know about their old sound made me feel a little burnt by the change.

At the same time, I really hate the notion of "selling out" or "going commercial"- even though it's something that I consciously see/recognize and definitely influences my feelings on an artist's work. I'm not going to begrudge an artist's decision to "sell out" or write for the American Idol market or license a song to an advertising firm or video game. These days, when file sharing accounts for more copies of a song out in the aether than sales by a literally-exponential margin, giving a musician poo poo for "selling out" isn't fair. This goes double for everybody's favorite unspoilt indie band who don't benefit from the sheer volume of successful sales that people like Lady Gaga or Soulja Boy get. It drives me up a wall when some friend of mine bitches about hearing a New Pornographers song on a T-Mobile ad or whatever. It's the same thing as Modest Mouse putting 'Float On' on Rock Band. Those guys made more money on that one license than they have on more than a decade's-worth of other, well-respected work.

It's sort of like what Dave Sitek from TV on the Radio once said about NYC pretentiousness: You don't have the right to bitch about sellouts when you've filled your iPod up with illegal music.

That's one of the biggest reasons I like vinyl. Don't get me wrong, I've got no beef with a quality digital file- and all things considered, the file is probably more useful to me. But as long as I'm not in abject poverty, I'm going to purchase the album. And if it's between spending $10 on a digital download or $15 on a vinyl copy (which 95% of the time comes with the download anyway- unless they're dicks), I'd rather get the version that comes with all of the neat, tangible stuff that the LP brings. That said, if it's an artist I'm not super into- or the vinyl costs stupidly more than the download- or Amazon has the album on sale for $5, all bets are off.

As for Lana Del Rey- the honest truth behind her career is that she's a moderately attractive white chick with decent songs that tick a couple of the "hot right now" boxes and her dad was rich enough to bankroll her career start. I'm not saying he 'bought' her a career- just that he paid for the studio time and demos and production team and initial publicity and other things that usually hobble most songwriting hopefuls in the pre-record deal stage.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Jan 16, 2012

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

CPL593H posted:

What if I don't have either of those things? Can I bitch then? Do I get some kind of special platinum bitching option?

I don't actually complain about bands "selling out".

Sure. :thumbsup:

You're being kind of a oval office

Jerry Cotton posted:

It's sort of like what Jerry Cotton from Something Awful once said about NYC pretentiousness: You just assume everyone has an iPod.

Well aren't you a special snowflake then? :allears: The iPod was an example from an actual quote, and the overwhelming majority of young people who listen to and care about music have at least some (if not a lot of) unpurchased music. Some of them buy vinyl too.

I'm not gonna gripe about a band wanting to make money given how fickle sales are as an income source thanks to that.

You're a big oval office

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

CPL593H posted:

Don't tell anyone, but I actually agree with the point he was making. But next time I'll run all my jokes by you.

Jerry Cotton posted:

Unless you're Dave Sitek from TV on the Radio I don't see why you'd respond that way.

Sorry about that. I read the posts haphazardly and responded quickly on my way out of work, and I was already in a really terrible mood about something unrelated to the thread. Not that it's an excuse for being a dickhead. I deserved that probation.

The oval office is me:(

Not an Anthem posted:

Please don't buy into this, its sentiment like this that supports the current PIPA/SOPA legislation. I'm not directing it at you, but you're repeating the music industry's empty rhetoric about copying.

I'm definitely not one to sympathize with Lars Ulrich or Gene Simmons' talking points, but it has to be a problem for independent acts and really small labels.

Case in point, my old roommate's dad used to run a tiny jazz/ethnographic/world/academic label for almost 20 years and had to pack it in after sales plummeted unsustainably over the last 6. By his estimate, pirated copies of their new releases outnumbered sales by a margin of 9 to 1 (disclosure: I have no idea how he arrived at it) And these were largely obscure (or of predominantly academic value) recordings that weren't exactly selling everywhere in the first place.

Ted Leo quit touring a while ago, because he purportedly couldn't afford to play music full time anymore (I'm not sure I buy that whole-hog). I'm not saying that it's a musician's express prerogative or right to live lavishly, or decently, or even exclusively on the income generated by his/her work, but I have a problem saying "welp, tour more and maybe keep your day job. It's the 21st Centureeee" so cavalierly.

Of course, one can argue that piracy=press and that turning a person who would never have bought your record in the first place onto your music can generate revenue through merch/concerts/etc, but at some point, the cost/benefit balance has to shift.

Or maybe I'm applying my film knowledge (where piracy has a clear and powerful impact on the indie market) to music and I'm full of crap. Either way, I hate SOPA/PIPA as much as any decent person and I wouldn't use this rhetoric to support them. I never said we should crack down on piracy or take measures to do so. I just said that I like buying records as a way to give the artist money, even if it means feeding the less wholesome aspects of the recording industry as well

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Jan 19, 2012

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Oh, hey there vinyl thread. Ummm...long time, no see.
:shobon:
Anyway....I've been well.

Yeeeeeaaaah. It's been really busy. I moved. How about you?

My last foray here ended on a bit of an awkward note. Turns out the Ted Leo thing I posted (which I'd actually read in a legitimate article) was from a misheard rumor. I didn't mean to post something wrong and then flake out to never return either- I have actually been remarkably busy and I have actually moved three states away from where I used to live.

:shobon:

.....That's good. Anyway, I got some mail today.



First vinyl purchase since New Year's. It's the 2010 Record Store Day reissue (and yes, I bought it from an actual record store- albeit through Amazon). Eventually, I'd like to pick up a copy of the original pressing, if only for the sake of sheer anal-retentiveness. I'm enough of a sucker for colored vinyl that I couldn't resist, though.



Apologies for the lighting. The picture doesn't remotely do justice to how lush and "fruity" the blue really is. It's more like the color of a raspberry Jolly Rancher than sky blue.

CPL593H posted:

All three David Cross albums are on vinyl, I really like those.

The last time I went to RedScroll (January), I saw a vinyl copy of Bigger and BlackerEr. It came in this thick, elaborate, black velvet-covered, gold-embossed sleeve/book. It was also $35 and I had special editions of the National's first 4 albums to buy.

Speaking of which:

Passion for Dilbert posted:

Here's a couple of download codes that I don't need to use if anyone wants them!!
.......
The National - Alligator
alligator.beggarspromo.com === ALGR_882CC325


Somebody use that code now, because that album is loving incredible and you need it.
BTW, Passion for Dilbert, is that from the 4AD lime green edition?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

cheapandugly posted:

Bugaloo, that REM disc is beautiful.

:swoon:I know!!!:swoon:

It was "only" $24 with shipping, which I guess ain't bad by '2-year old RSD print' standards. That's cheaper than every copy of the original run I've seen- which is unfortunate because I absolutely need one now.

The fact that my copy of their first EP is the youngest thing in my REM vinyl collection by at least 2 decades is doing my head in and disturbing the sense of continuity and peace. It's just...off to put it next to Murmur.

But between this and the goon-requisite horse mask I ordered (arrived yesterday), I'm giddy as a schoolgirl. Maybe I'll spin some tracks, drink some black rum, and prance around disturbingly in the mask for a while before I go out for the night.....

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

CPL593H posted:

Well for starters I loving hate Fleetwood Mac.

I'll just pretend that sentence wasn't in your comment and agree with everything else you said. There's something criminally cynical about releasing a $40+ print (who cares if it was remastered) of an album that's probably in at least 3 out of every 5 attics across the Western world.

Even if you somehow didn't have a copy just lying around (CPL593H's record collection notwithstanding, and even he probably has one under a potted plant or something), it's nothing 50 cents and a trip to any Goodwill couldn't fix. I mean, who is that release for? Confused baby boomers? "Audiophiles?" 17 year olds who buy Crosleys at UrbanOutfitters?

The Black Keys stuff makes me kind of furious- and it's made me acknowledge a disturbing trend in my collection: I almost never buy anything immediately when it's released, especially if it's a first run. Part of that is simply being too busy and not made of money all the time, and part of it is having gotten into this infernal hobby after a lot of my favorite albums were made; but what's the point of buying a vinyl print of a new album if they'll probably just reissue it in two years in Ultra-DayGlo-Heavyweight-Sparklecolor-Remaster-Bonus Track-Hologram Sleeve edition if it's any good?

And in other news:

I don't know how many people are aware of this (apologies if it's been posted before)
http://bleep.com/index.php?page=release_details&releaseid=34945

BLEEP.com posted:

SBTRKT
Hold On
(Young Turks)
We are currently taking pre-orders for the vinyl format of this release. Shipping for release date of 7th May.

Young Turks drop an unexpected storming single from their masked crusader - SBTRKT.

Featuring the incredible vocal talents of London super-talent Sampha, this was one of the standout cuts from SBTRKT's debut album.

In single format, the track also features an atmospheric re-work from the mysterious producer Sisi Bak Bak. Reported by Pitchfork and others, the rumour mill suggests that this is a new alias for none other than Thom Yorke.

Reminiscent of his solo material on the Eraser album and 12" releases for Text and _Xurbia_Xendless Limited, it is not a very far-fetched rumour to believe. Top that off with a brand new foot(2)step track 'Ride to Freedom' and you have an essential purchase.

Pre-orders are $18.

Also, the sleeve is this 3D lenticular business right here:


...because who wouldn't want a 3D picture of Thom Yorke pretending we can't recognize him behind that mask? :allears:

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Dissapointed Owl posted:

Gotta say, that doesn't look like Yorke at all.


:ssh:He's not the black guy

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

NESguerilla posted:

All I wanted was those Tron discs and they were gone in like 2 seconds. They were also horribly over priced. I think I just ended up buying that hosed Up album that I listened to once.

Are you talking about the Tron Legacy soundtrack or something else? I remember seeing a copy at a store in January.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
I'm back at my parents' house visiting for a week. I stopped through Boston for a few days and hit up some various record and thrift stores. Today I also hit the two Goodwill stores in the area. Spoils (and explanations) ahoy:


I now have the first 6 major REM releases on vinyl (along with a few singles). I also ran across a copy of Automatic for the People in Boston, but they wanted $30 for it and I wasn't having any of that. I'm also really pleased about my practically mint $4 copy of Easter. gently caress the $16 reissue.


Some more Talking Heads stuff and some poetry for you fancy pretentious types.


Opera! Classical! Three motherfucking versions of Rhapsody in Blue! (I reaaally like Gershwin, and I spent 2 bucks on all three).


Soundtracks!


Theeaaater!:gay:

That Sound of Music LP is of the 1959 Broadway run, not the film. The bottom of the sleeve has a blurb that promises, "You can purchase this record with no fear of its becoming obsolete in the future." Ruh-roh.


I don't know anything about the tango record (aside that it's from the mid-'50s) but that copy of Stokowski conducting the AAYO in Ravel's Bolero is a gorgeous shellac 78 from ~1940-41. Stokowski started the orchestra in 1940 and it was disbanded when the US entered World War II. I can't play this record, but since it only cost a dollar at Goodwill, I'm content to just ogle it.




More THEEAAATER!!:gay::gay:
These come with script booklets. As if a theater major like moi would need them, Ho ho!


Some "lesser" Costello (bullshit, Imperial Bedroom is better than Armed Forces) and stuff.


That Supremes compilation is from 1967.


A circa-1963 memorial compilation of JFK speeches (and Kennedy-Nixon debate clips), an album of German/US military noises from 1962, some evangelizing, and PDQ Bach because....why not.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0_Vtb2nZMM


Learn a new language!

A closeup of some shady dealings. Look at that skeevy Italian. What's he planning? I bet he has an erection.

Smut(!)




And the crown jewel....


The one on top is from 1959 and the one below is the 1961 reprint after the chipmunks got really popular.


The 1959 print is red(gasp!)


Also, I picked up a pair of these bad boys:

....for all of $16 (as in 8 bucks each). They're massive (see wallet, glasses, keys, and assorted bobs for reference) and in great shape aside from some scuffs and light water damage on one cabinet. They sound really good (for the price. Bass is a bit weak considering their size, but my apartment is small enough where that shouldn't matter. They'll hold me over until I buy some Mordaunt Shorts).

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 07:29 on Mar 15, 2012

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
I was up at 9 at the Bull Moose in Brunswick, ME. There was a bit of a line already there- mostly old dudes and some dads with kids. Managed to snag everything I wanted that they had available and was able to earn up and cash in some old Bull Moose points:





The 'Hand Springs/Red Death' single has "Red Death Amplifiers=Walkie Talkies" etched into the B-side.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (apologies to everyone who couldn't get one)

They only had one copy here and I literally had to grab it before like 3 other dudes started asking the clerks about it.





I got the ugliest pair of Heady Fwends and that makes me special.
...seriously, though. They're like "Brussels Sprout" and "Poop Sewage Butt" colored, respectively.



Does everyone have the same etchings? I got:
-so girl you and me can watch each other pee-
-i'll ask the insect oh does he feel pain when he dies-
-you always want to shave my balls-
-you and me we know that love is true-
(I guess this means I got the Henry Rollins version?)


Yeah, that's "El Camino" behind there. It's totes okay though, and not at all indicative of being a consumer whore, because I didn't have it before.

And free poo poo:


I got a lot more free poo poo that I didn't photograph: Some nifty Black Keys, Sleigh Bells, Shins, and Danger Mouse posters; a Flogging Molly shot glass; some assorted promo CDs not worth describing; a surprisingly elaborate and high quality LP tote (with a separate pocket for your 7"s); some stickers; a space helmet keychain; some old promo materials for 'Fallout 3' (what?); and a 7" of K'naan covering Bob Dylan that I probably won't ever listen to.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Handshake Drugs posted:

hey Bullmoose buddy! :)

ButButBut....But-I went to Bullmoose too....I even mentioned it in my swag post....:sigh:

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

david puddy posted:

Just got this one in the post:



what is it?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Pookdaddy G posted:

My copy sounds fantastic, though that stupid rear end X on the sleeve really fucks with me when I slide it back onto the shelf. It looks mangled as gently caress by now after all the uses. It is a cool idea, but drat.

That's why you plastic bag your LPs.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Stuntman posted:

I have this record too, and same deal with my copy. I think it's intentional.

The Record Store Day release of Sigur Ros' Hvarf/Heim had a lot (I don't know if it was all of them) of copies with the labels totally mixed up between discs 1 and 2- including mine and at least one other person in this thread's. I doubt things like that are intentional, and it's not that infrequent.

Given that labels are applied either mechanically or by hand in a production line-style fashion, all it takes is feeding the wrong box into the process or grabbing the first disc upside down and you've suddenly made that the standard for an entire batch of LPs.

It's really easy to gently caress up a whole production run if one guy in the factory is wrong about what Side 1 is.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
I hit up a few yard sales today. I picked up a lot of LPs for dirt cheap (a bunch of Zep, Elton John, Simon and Garfunkel, Rolling Stones, Neil Young, etc.) that aren't really worth photographing because whatever, every yard sale record haul worth looking at twice would probably have them.

But there were some picture-worthy finds:




The White Album is a reissue (and not really worth photographing, but whatever- I got it for 5 bucks and it sounds awesome after a good brushing.) That copy of Beggars Banquet is a first-issue and it looks and sounds fantastic. I also picked up relatively nice copies of Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers- complete with crusty-as-hell zipper.




All of the albums pictured (aside from the White Album, and the sticker on the Specials LP) are in really good-to-impeccable shape.


To everybody who paid $30+ for a pink EVOL reissue a couple of months ago: The pristine 1986 first-run copy I got for $15 would like you to go gently caress yourselves. :)

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Jun 23, 2012

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

wa27 posted:

I can't say I've run into many yard sales where they individually price records.

Neither have I. It's really annoying too, because the guy selling them didn't use the same (proper) labels that an actual record store would use, so the ones I've tried removing have been an absolute bitch to get off cleanly. They're the sort of thing you might find on glassware, and they sure as hell weren't made for paperboard. He had also run all ~300 of the records he was selling through discogs and had a fat stack of printouts with him to haggle with.

(I've posted plenty of record store finds in this very thread before. I have absolutely no reason to lie about where I find my LPs).

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

CPL593H posted:

I've never found a single worthwhile record at a yard sale, ever. Nevermind a yard sale that has all that stuff. I can't even find Smiths albums in record shops nevermind loving yard sales. Also those Sonic Youth reissues are well worth the money. Analog remasters sourced from the original tapes are nothing to scoff at.

Dude, if I didn't think I was lucky I wouldn't have posted pictures. Currently being in southwestern Connecticut might have something to do with it, but it's bizarre luck. Of the two yard sales I hit today, one had nothing but Robert Goulet and Herb Alpert/Tijuana Brass. The other happened to be...umm...much better.

And I wasn't scoffing at the reissues. Lord knows a quality reissue is a great thing, especially if it's fairly priced and maybe has some extra goodies the original didn't. I was merely commenting on the superiority of my find. :smug::smug::smug:

I'm just being a dick because the pink EVOL reissue had sold out and copies were going for outrageous prices back when I'd gotten around to hearing about it.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Jun 23, 2012

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

CPL593H posted:

It's ok. I just wanted you to feel bad for lording it over everyone. I probably would have done the same thing. Anyone paying super high prices for the pink Evol disc is stupid because that series of Sonic Youth reissues also had standard black vinyl pressings that are readily available.

Yes, but you don't understand THIS VERSION'S PINK.

Therefore, it should cost 3X as much and I should resell it for 5X what I paid, because if not- where's the investment?

***I fully acknowledge that I have lusted for colored vinyl and made purchasing decisions influenced by its presence and variety.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Jun 23, 2012

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

alg posted:

I got my first warped records today :negative: I figure sitting out in the sun for most of the day did a bad number on them. The outer tracks are really bad, the arm just skips on them.

I don't really wanna send the back to this small label because I'm sure they will lose money on it. Do any of the crazy tricks I found on google actually work to un-warp a record?

How bad of a warp is it? When you say that the arm skips on the tracks, do you mean that it's incapable of playing at all on them? I have two or three warped records that play fine aside from a track or two where the tone arm hovers a bit as it goes up and down the warp and skips. I've found that resting a dime on top of the tonearm head during that track lets it play fine. It's not pretty, and it's probably bad for the needle and LP, but it works.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
So all of the Americans here are probably pretty aware of how hot this summer's been (unless you're on the West coast- in which case, it's been very hot). I'm in CT, where it's often been in the mid 90's, and have begun to worry about my vinyl.

The room I keep my records in gets quite warm (not as hot as outside, though) and while I haven't noticed them getting too hot at the day's worst, I wonder if this climate's dangerous for them. My dad (who grew up in South America and had many thousands of LPs in his day) told me to be concerned, and I'm taking his advice to heart and mounting an AC in that room today (also because my guitars are in that room, and those really don't like heat). But given the number of collections sitting in attics and whatnot, I have to wonder- what is the upper limit of temperature tolerance for these things? I imagine that how they're stored and how much pressure they're under would probably have a big effect too.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Good to hear about the temperature thing. I got a package today:



It was a day earlier than I expected (though a weekend later than it was supposed to get here, since UPS accidentally shipped it to the wrong state at the last minute). Both pieces are really well put together, despite their simplicity (just a gatefold and an LP- or two, in Swim's case- inside). The crappy lighting doesn't really do justice to just how beautifully printed they are. Here are the gatefolds for Swim and Andorra, respectively.



trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Chumpion posted:

Backing up how gorgeous this gatefold is, I can't tell on the photo if yours is the same but my version of Swim has raised glossy indents for the pattern as well.

Umm...I think so. It has a glossy/matte texture pattern. I'm going to go ahead and concur with you.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

dumbskull posted:

I've had some lovely record player for like a decade but i dropped it out of my rig and then my dog stomped all over it... whats a good record player to buy? do they make one that plays tapes too? I don't even know like what the diff things to look for in one are i've just only ever had this one. please help me

First off: what was it? It had to have a name/manufacturer/model number. That'll give us an idea of what you're building from.

Second: read the OP and the OP of the Vinyl/Turntable thread in A/V Arena. 99% of that information is still perfectly relevant despite the years- aside from a few things: The Technics SL-1200 is no longer in production and almost everyone (especially DJs) wants one so expect to pay $700+ for a used specimen in decent condition. The ProJect Debut III has been superseded by the ProJect Debut Carbon ($400 at Needledoctor.com) which takes an already top-notch turntable for the price and tosses in a bunch of very worthwhile upgrades for $50 more than the old version (most notably the tonearm and especially the cartridge, which is a $100 upgrade on its own). It looks fantastic IMO and it sounds great but it's not automatic/direct drive, which can be a bit of a hassle.

Thirdly: No. I don't know what you even meant by "tapes" (cassettes or, like, poo poo on spools?) but any turntable that comes with a built-in CD/cassette player, tuner, or handsome "wood" cabinet or is available at Target/Walmart/Best Buy/Urban Outfitters isn't worth poo poo- and most likely will damage your LPs. Arguably the same thing can be said about 99% of turntables that come bundled with a USB plug.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Aug 5, 2012

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

david puddy posted:



This is the first splattered vinyl I've ever gotten, can't believe how incredible it looks. Awesome albums, glad they finally arrived :woop:

Holy crap, that COVER ART.

Anyway, I've made a bunch of recent additions in the last week:



I road-tripped to Brunswick, Maine last week to visit some friends (alma mater's there) and stopped in at the Fort Andross flea market. If you're ever in the area and you have an hour or two to kill, I HIGHLY recommend you dig through their vinyl. The flea market's not that big and there are a few scattered stands that predominantly deal with LPs. Once the vinyl people there become aware of you, they'll eagerly lead you around to all of the various hidden stacks and bins strewn around the place and talk your ear off about turntables because it's Maine and they don't get a lot of people asking about records outside of a Bowdoin freshman or two looking for wall decorations.

The selection is 99% christian and country (and not the good kind) and you'll have to dig through a lot of crap but there's a fair amount of hidden gold if you've got a little patience. You won't necessarily find anything particularly rare, but you'll find record store staples in the sort of condition you'd never see outside of your parents' house for a fraction of the record store cost. I got every one of these LPs for a dollar. That copy of Thriller is loving pristine (disc and sleeve). I wouldn't normally post a picture of Bookends, seeing as every swap, store, and basement has at least 3 copies lying around but this is the best first run copy I've seen by an order of magnitude. It blows the one I had out of the water, and looks and sounds like it was just pulled out of the shrink wrap.



My friend and I swung by In Your Ear in Boston on the way back home. It was slim pickings that day, but I now have a copy of every REM LP from the 1980s (nobody cares but me!) and the worst album U2 made in the period before they really turned to poo poo. :toot:

Later this week, I learned that any returns you attempt to make at Goodwill (like, say you bought some speakers and decided that they sounded worse than the ones you already had) will result in store credit- I swear, the lady who rang me up never told me. I hate having store credit (I forget I have it and end up losing the receipts), so I've been doing my best to burn through it as fast as possible- by hitting up three different Goodwill stores in southwestern CT:



The Westport one is the best (old, rich, white people rock!). Everything here sounds good to excellent, except for the Grateful Dead stuff which sounds like the Grateful Dead.



The Monroe one was pretty good too. Unfortunately, that copy of Head Hunters is shot to hell, which was a major loving let-down.



None of these are in really good shape either, which arguably makes me more upset. Nothing is worse than a bunch of drunk people getting their hopes up about a rousing round of "The Bear Necessities" and "I Wanna Be Like You" and having the songs sound like they're being played with a Dremel.



I'm not super into the stuff on Born in the USA but the B-side's a Tom Waites cover and it's wonderful.



Hey! Look! Irony!



Some samples of the more "miscellaneous" stuff. I don't know what sort of obsession people in the late '60s had with bullfight noise, but I've seen a lot of these records around. There's a lot more classical/historical stuff (it's the bulk of my Goodwill haul), but nobody wants to see it/I got tired of taking pictures. That George Carlin record is probably the best encapsulation of "that man's cocaine problem":

Wikipedia posted:

When asked in the January 1982 issue of Playboy if any of his albums had been done during a heavy cocaine period, Carlin said, "The Class Clown album was done totally sober. I'd realized what a hell I'd made for myself and I cleaned up completely for three months. You can hear the clarity of my thinking and of my speech on that album. But by the next one, Occupation: Foole, I was right back into the trip again. I'm more frantic, more breathless. You can hear how sick I am. If you want to see a cokehead, just look at the pictures on the Occupation: Foole album. The angles of my body show you an awful lot. I started doing coke to feel open but by that time the hole had opened so wide that I'd fallen through. The body language in those photos tells you everything."

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Aug 6, 2012

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Oct 20, 2007
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Ron Burgundy posted:

That would be the contemporary "Tijuana sound" craze of faux Spanish style easy listening music spearheaded by Herb Alpert & TJB.

The immense success of this sub genre would produce about 800 million sound-alike groups.

No, I get that stuff- believe me, I've got a whole stack of brass band/Herb Alpert/Bossa Nova. I'm talking about straight-up recordings of bullfights. Like, one of the records I have is a double-disc: Disc 1 is a bullfight recording (just a bunch of crowd noises with band interludes here and there) and Disc 2 is a collection of pre-civil war Spanish folk songs.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

het posted:

Buying records you don't actually like isn't so much ironic as it is stupid. Or, in the case that you actually like the music, it's just not ironic at all.

I was being facetious, hence the tone of the comment. I love ABBA/Disco-era Brothers Gibb/etc. with the same sort of detached tongue-in-cheekiness that I have for post-Gabriel Genesis or Lady Gaga.

In any case, I don't see "ironically" liking something as a bad thing and really hate all of the hostility it gets from people. I mean, I get that it's the spiritual antithesis of nerddom- you appreciate something that has earned its share of scorn without commiting to it and earning your social lumps because of it- but it's a lot healthier and more pragmatic than the alternative. It's the distinction between "I'm watching this cartoon for children. I'm gonna enjoy it for what it is" and "Who are you dressing up as for this year's Bronycon?"

I like collecting and listening to albums of schmaltzy synthpop, field recordings, fundamentalist Christian sermons, and bullfight noises in spite of- and because of how dumb, saccharine, bizarre, or downright lovely they might be. I'm sure as Hell not gonna listen to the Tijuana Brass the same way I'd listen to Patti Smith.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Aug 7, 2012

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het posted:

Because I think it's not actually ironic, and the whole concept of "liking something ironically" is almost exclusively used to stifle discussion and write off people's opinions. It's pretty rare in my experience that that phrasing is accurate, for one thing. It's often shorthand for "I'm afraid people I know would think less of me if they knew I liked this", which IMHO isnt conducive to honest discussion, because people are afraid to own their tastes.

"I'm going to enjoy this for what it is" is sort of the opposite of enjoying something "ironically" though? How do you enjoy things unironically if not for what they are?

I get what you're saying, but taste itself is a pretty fluid thing. If you have to "own your taste" for everything you like in exactly the same way then that doesn't really leave any room for variation. I love daytime courtroom TV shows, but I wouldn't categorize my appreciation for them in the same way that I would my appreciation for Apocalypse Now.

Maybe the phrasing's off (again, I want to draw attention to the tone of the initial statement because it wasn't serious at all), but I tend to see this thing- for lack of a better term- as a knowing detachment- not so much as a defense from accountability to others, but as something internal and personal.

For this argument, I'm defining "liking something for what it is" as appreciating it with awareness of its faults. "I like 'Trash TV' but I also know that it's pretty exploitative, lowbrow, and dumb- and I don't have to defend it to myself or others because I'll be the first to say so."

I pointed it out because the internet's take on it is often the "Zelda T-shirt" example that gets trotted out. Either you're wearing one because "ZOMG that game made MY LIFE back in the day, and it is totally a part of my identity as a geek" or because "I'm a shallow hipster who co-opts geekdom because it's hip to be square man, and like, Gamestation, man, right?"

Like, I get that you're either into something or you're not, but you're also allowed a bit of grey there.

stay depressed posted:

Don't worry. In 6 months either they'll have sold their turntable and given up

-or-

they'll eventually realize that they have a crate of useless pointless "haha so weird" records that are taking the space of other things they could have engaged with on a level beyond "hehe this is so crazy *slides back into box*" and they'll end up right back in the bargain bin or the goodwill.

CYOA

Haha, yeah bro- you totally pegged me and the 700+ records that I own! :thumbsup:

It's cool tho, once I get tired of amassing Boy George albums I'll just pawn my turntable and start collecting Juggalo velvet art instead. Blacklight velvet art.

Then I'll simply crush up the LPs, make a cocoon out of them and my own saliva, and emerge as the avatar of tacky Jesus during next year's Gathering.

The Doo Do Chasers posted:

Is there a specific (budget) brush that you guys can recommend? Cotton balls aren't working as well as I remember them working...

RCA makes one called the Discwasher. It's what I have, and was recommended to me by a shop owner in my area (I didn't buy it from him). I got it for ~$20 and it came with a bottle of fluid (60% distilled water/40% ethanol, most likely).

Also, what liquid(s) are you using to clean your records with? I'm sure tap water is probably ok, but I only use distilled just to be on the safe side. That said, I wouldn't go freaking overboard (I get my water free from a lab at work)- I have friends who've had good results with extra dirty records by running them under the tap with a little dishsoap.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Aug 8, 2012

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Oct 20, 2007
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isomerc posted:

I've been told that lighter fluid is a great solvent to use on vinyl. I could be wrong, but I've heard that's what's used for archival of vinyl before it's stored long-term.

Makes sense. I imagine that any relatively available organic solvent with a low evaporation temp (alcohols, basically) that isn't too corrosive would work. Butane seems right up that alley.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

nomapple posted:

Looking at the P-J III on Amazon, prices vary wildly from £329-£239. So far as I can tell the price difference seems to be based on colour for some reason, but if anyone knows of any differences concerning the quality of the Project Debut IIIs listed, then please, pipe up!

I really like the Debut. Soundwise, I'd say both tables are pretty close but I think the Debut is just a gorgeous piece of kit. It's this vibrant minimalist slab of color (or white or whatever) that draws attention to itself and adds to the decor of the space it's in. I mean, I think most turntables look pretty cool and I'm not one to hide A/V equipment if it's aesthetically well-designed, but that table's practically a piece of furniture.

Also, the Debut-III has just been replaced by the new Debut Carbon. It's the same table except apparently better in every way that counts: Carbon fiber tonearm (probably more of a gimmick than anything, but hey- improvement's improvement), Ortofon 2M Red cartridge (this is a biggie- people often upgrade their Debut-III's by replacing the bundled cartridge. AFAIK this is the one that most people replace it with. It's $100 on its own- so unless you find a clearance Debut-III for at least $100 less than the Carbon, I'd argue that this upgrade alone is worth the cost of the new model), bigger platter, and new motor suspension (from what I've heard, these last two changes basically take care of most of the complaints people had with the older model).

Its standard price is the same as what the Debut-III's was, so if you see different prices around the internet for "ProJect Debut," it might be resellers clearing out old stock. The company's policy is that all of the different colors cost the same, so there shouldn't be any pricing variation based on color. The standard price for the Carbon is $399 (252 pounds). Anything higher (like $329 pounds!?) and you're either getting fleeced or you're seeing a different table- maybe an RPM or an Xpression or a debut with USB.

As far as price and ordering is concerned, I'd order from Jerry Raskin's Needle Doctor before anywhere else. Their pricing on everything is basically the company standard or less and whatever they might lose in price (not much) compared to some other shop, they more than make up for in shipping care and customer service. They're an analog/audiophile supply shop and I'd much rather have my expensive product come from them than some no-name wholesaler on Amazon, if only because they'll probably be much easier to deal with if something arrives broken and I know somebody competent would help me out with any setup questions I might have.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Aug 27, 2012

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nomapple posted:

Thanks so much for this, it's really informative. The Carbons do look amazing. I'm going to see if I can find a licensed dealer in the UK before shelling out to order from the States, as I hate to think how much the shipping would be for that! drat.

PS: The OP should probably be updated with the fact that the Pro-Ject now has a new model.

No worries, glad to help. a quick look on the Pro-Ject website shows that Henley Designs is Pro-Ject's UK distributor of choice. The Carbon's on their online store for 300 pounds, in all colors.

That's within the range you first mentioned but it seems a bit high compared to NeedeDr.'s price- granted, that's without factoring in any shipping, which would probably skew things a bit. Maybe set up a shipment from each of them and see which comes out cheapest? It might be worth buying from Henley just for the likely much shorter ship time and less chance of transit injury.

If not, there are definitely (probably) a whole lot more dealers around in the UK.

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