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CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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So my mom moved into a smaller place, and I inhereted my dad's old turntable that he had when I was growing up. It's technics SL-BD22 and I've got it hooked up to some old speakers I had. I also got both parent's collection of vinyl (probably a hundred records from the sixties and seventies, some good stuff, some... questionable stuff) and it's all in decent enough shape. I replaced the cartridge (I think it was the original 30-year-old unit) and right now my biggest problem is just speaker placement.

The biggest question I have right now is, when my dad had it set up he had some kind of 'disc saver' that the RCA cables went through. It has AC power and seems like some kind of battery backup. It has RCA inputs and outputs. But when I had the turntable routed through there, the sound was muddled. It sounded like poo poo. If I bypass it, it sounds fine. What's the deal with that? Is it necessary and am I hooking it up wrong somehow? I'm assuming it's so that if we lose power, a disc that's playing won't stop immediately.

CornHolio fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Mar 10, 2021

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CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

lament.cfg posted:

Is it a QED Discsaver? That’s just a phono preamplifier.

Yep that's it. I don't think I need it... right? It sounds fine without it.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
I never posted pictures of what I got from my mom:




Some Beatles


Functioning zipper!


I'm a big fan of Giger so this was neat to see


Never heard of em



https://imgur.com/8tD7uTQ
(NSFW) This is apparently an early Elton John bootleg. Can't sell it on Discogs.



It's mostly stuff from the late sixties and the seventies - CCR, The Who, Rolling Stones, CCR, Grand Funk, Iron Butterfly, Poco, Journey, Steppenwolf, The Doors, Led Zeppelin (I, II and IV... They used to have III but I can't find it), etc... None in very good shape (though the records themselves are fine) and nothing super rare as far as I know, but they sound good and I'm happy to have them.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

Cemetry Gator posted:

Is that Sgt. Pepper in mono? It doesn't have the big huge Stereo banner, so you might have something cool.

Also, make sure to pull that zipper down for long term storage. Otherwise, it might damage the record (and yes, people were paid to do this when they initially released the album after finding out about that).

I'll check tonight on the Sgt Pepper. And I'll unzip that fly. It's probably been stored like that for nearly fifty years so the damage is probably done.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

Cemetry Gator posted:

Is that Sgt. Pepper in mono? It doesn't have the big huge Stereo banner, so you might have something cool.

Also, make sure to pull that zipper down for long term storage. Otherwise, it might damage the record (and yes, people were paid to do this when they initially released the album after finding out about that).

It is indeed mono, looks to be this one.

It has an undamaged cardboard cutout sheet, too! However, no dust sleeve. Guess I'll be buying some sleeves.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal


Picked up some things from a record store on Saturday. The Ziggy Stardust was a special request from my 13-year-old daughter <3

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

BigFactory posted:

What year is the ziggy stardust from

It's the 2015 remaster. They had another one there but it was sixty dollars. This one was 23.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
I've gone through about half of the albums I got from my mom. Haven't touched the stuff I've collected myself over the years. Median value shows $900 (and I've done my best to get the correct pressing of each). Wish they were in better shape. Not planning on selling or anything, just cataloging at this point.

https://www.discogs.com/user/shivan000/collection

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

sporklift posted:

Nice. Love those two Alice Cooper albums. And Mandrill. Your mom has good taste.


A lot of them were my dad's, he passed away two years ago and my mom's downsizing (which is why I got these plus their turntable). I don't know whose is whose... their names are on some, and there's mysterious names on a lot of others. I've found some records in the wrong sleeves too. It's like delving into who they were and who their friends were before I was born.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
Picked these up over the weekend from a record store in the basement of an old courthouse. $20 for the Priest, $25 for the Sabbath (talked down from $35 because drat, look at the beating the cover has taken). Both sound good and the Sabbath appears to be a first edition.

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CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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I'm done adding everything to my discogs collection.

https://www.discogs.com/user/shivan000/collection

My stuff plus the stuff I got from my mom. Neat to see a counterfeit Beatles album.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

Mister Kingdom posted:

Which one is the counterfeit?

Songs and Pictures of the Fabulous Beatles. I think Discogs put it as 'Introducing... The Beatles' for some reason, and if you go to 'all versions' it ships you to Please Please me for some reason. But anyway, mine has an entirely black and white label on the disc and I'm pretty certain that marks it as a counterfeit.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

hexwren posted:

I have one of these as well, via my father-in-law giving me his collection some time ago.

If memory serves, Songs and Pictures was the bootleg version of an authorized record called Songs, Pictures and Stories of the Fabulous Beatles, which was an artifact of the weird early US deals they cut circa their first album. SP dropped the last part of the title because SPS had a text section within the gatefold, two items this later record lacks.

...or I could have just pointed out the link you posted, which says all that.

also the most important part is the raw screaming weirdness of the beatlemania-soaked back cover message



Yup that's exactly what the back of mine looks like. Not sure if it's worth anything or if it's even legal to sell but it's a cool piece of history nonetheless.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
Just stopped by Red Zeppelin outside of Dallas and picked up a copy of that Age of Winters that was exclusive for RSD. It looks beautiful.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
So I grabbed some cheap Pioneer CS-G104 speakers yesterday for :10bux: at Goodwill. Haven't wired them up (I changed where I wanted to put one of them and don't have enough speaker wire now, but it'll get here tomorrow) but doing some research, I've discovered that I really like the aesthetic of the Pioneer CS-822A. I think eventually I'd like to go with something similar, for looks for than anything to be honest.

These are apparently rare (in the US) and I don't want to pay for rarity if I don't have to. Is there something that gives off similar vibes, isn't poo poo, and isn't expensive?

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CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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BigFactory posted:

Speakers like that used to be called/are still called? kabuki speakers. It’s almost certainly a culturally insensitive term, but if you’re doing a google search, that phrase will get you a lot farther than “70’s speaker with big woofer and lots of tweeters”.

Most of the big name manufacturers in the late 70s/early 80’s made speakers like that, some are well regarded, most are just loud. The flashier they look under the hood, typically the worse they sound from an accuracy POV. Still loud, still good for rock music.

The problem is that they’re bulky and heavy, so trying to buy online will cost a fortune in shipping. My advice is to keep an eye out on Facebook/Craigslist for people selling a pair locally. Or you may have a vintage hi-fi shop local. At a thrift shop I would expect to pay about $50 for a pair if you can find a pair, more on Craigslist, more than that at a store. But still I would hope under $100. Prices on eBay will be crazy, everything like that is marked way up.

Are the integrated controls and lights also typical of 'kabuki' speakers? I realize that they're stupid but that's part of the reason I like them. They have that 'eighties excessive' look to them.

I definitely like some of these, though.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

BigFactory posted:

The tone controls for sure (although that used to be very common on speakers, just usually not front and center). Lights not so much. Do those speakers have lights?

Looks like they have LEDs in the upper corners.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

CornHolio posted:

Looks like they have LEDs in the upper corners.

Dammit, can't attach a file when editing. Anyway, these things. So you can always be in the danger zone. I think they want $650 for the pair at the site where I found this picture.

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CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

BigFactory posted:

Yeah, LEDs like that aren’t super common. Or are just uncommon. I’ll check my pair of Kenwoods out today. They might have one led each but maybe not any.

I would never pay $650 for that pair of speakers. You can get amazing speakers for $650 if you spend your money wisely.

Oh yeah I'd never pay that, maybe $150 max. Gonna be keeping my eyes out though now that I kinda know more about them.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
Is there a speaker thread anywhere?

Awhile ago I picked up a pair of Pioneer CS-G104s from Goodwill, ten bucks for the pair, and they sound fine... but I eventually want to replace then with something better. I'm in love with the aesthetic of these Pioneer CS-722As but... I don't know how to compare the two. Like, I know mine are lower wattage and only have a sun and a tweeter, so these are almost certainly better, but beyond that kind of generalizing I don't know what to look for in a speaker.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

BigFactory posted:

Didn’t you ask this same question in a different thread a month or so ago? Those pioneer speakers will sound fine and be very loud, and might be pretty efficient for how loud they get, but they’re not fundamentally amazing speakers or anything. They’re for 70’s stoners to crank the zeppelin on.

See what’s on Craigslist/Facebook/thrift stores (you can check Goodwill online and look for local places too. Shipping speakers is expensive). If you’re patient and check often you will eventually find something interesting in your price range. Don’t pay to ship speakers unless either you’re rich or it’s a very special pair. Do you have a budget?

I...may have? I don't know. I don't have a budget and I'm not buying anything online for that very reason, I just want to know what the various terminologys mean (not just wattage but things like impedance, crossover, what brands are good, how many speakers in a cabinet are optimal, etc). If I see something at Goodwill or a pawn shop or something, I want to know if it's worth whatever they're charging.

The biggest problem I have with the speakers I have right now is that if I'm even just a little bit to the side, they sound awful. All of the sound is directed straight ahead, if that makes sense.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
Picked up some classics from the local record show this morning. Paid $5 for Rumours cause it has a small scratch, decent enough deals for most of the rest. Got $5 off of Night at the Opera cause the guy liked my Therion shirt.

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CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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pwn posted:

I legit thought it was a greatest hits album. Reminds me of Garth Brooks’ 1991 album, Ropin’ the Wind

I was talking about this with my wife yesterday, literally calling it 'basically a best-of' album. Always wanted it, never had it, not even on CD. For some reason I love the cover and always wanted it in vinyl. It sounds great, too.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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Ballz posted:

I love my Habitat for Humanity ReStore. I didn't find any amazing $1 records this time, but I'm hoping a decent cleaning will make this bad boy shine again:

https://twitter.com/NewsFedora/status/1445837243868848128

I'm jealous. I need to check out my ReStore. I really like the vintage receivers from the 70s and 80s aesthetically and would love to have a functioning one.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
Something I picked up yesterday for twenty bucks

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CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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What receivers/amps do you guys use?

When my dad died I got his Kenwood KR-A5020 receiver which served him fine and it's serving me fine. 60W per channel, from the early nineties. I think he paid a hundred bucks for it and it's not work any more today. It sounds alright to me.

But I see people with their high end vintage Pioneers and Kenwood (swoon) and Marantz receivers and they look amazing and apparently (I wouldn't know) sound amazing.

What am I missing? Do they actually sound different? Are they built better? I think they definitely look better but the prices are just insane on some of them.

I've found myself joining some vintage hifi facebook groups and some of the stuff they post is pure pornography and I'm getting afraid that I'm going to end up dropping a grand on something and not really knowing what I'm going to be getting out of it.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
My haul today from the local record show. Tusk has some water damage but the vinyl is fine and it was $5.

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CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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I picked up my first truly vintage receiver over the weekend, a Pioneer SX680 from 1978. Paid $200 for it. I don't believe it's ever been refurbished or anything, but everything works and sounds great and it's super clean.

It's replacing my nineties Kenwood KR-A5020 that was my father's (I'm keeping it around, just not using it for vinyl). Comparing the specs, the big difference seems to be the frequency response: 10hz - 50khz for the Kenwood, 5hz - 100khz for the Pioneer. So the Pioneer should be able to output over a much larger spectrum. The Kenwood had 65 watts per channel while the Pioneer only has 30 but it's super loud to my ears. I will apparently never miss that wattage. I think I know what all those numbers mean, anyway.

It sounds great and it looks great, especially with the soft yellow incandescent bulbs lighting it up.

I picked up a KMFDM single at the same time (Virus, from '89) so that was pretty awesome as well.

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CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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Picked up some stuff from the local record show yesterday. I got some of it for pretty cheap because the cover isn't in the best shape, though the vinyl is fine. The Kansas was free - the merchant had my daughter pick something out as long as she didn't know what it was. In a cheap bin full of mostly garbage she picked the best one.

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CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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BigFactory posted:

On your feet or on your knees has a good cover

Meddle in particular was in pretty rough shape, which is fine because honestly it's not a very good album cover period. And the vinyl was a bit dirty. I got it sounding better (not great, still a lot of crackling) but Echoes sounds absolutely sublime.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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I went to a record store on Saturday in a neighboring town. I'd never been there, never even heard of it. The guy had an entire wall of vintage receivers and turntables, and several shelves of speakers.

I ended up picking up Sad Wings of Destiny, Sin after Sin (both Judas Priest) and Spectres (Blue Oyster Cult). My wife got a few albums too, and a couple of CDs.

The big ticket item I bought, though, were a pair of Advent speakers. I've had some early nineties Pioneers (CS-G203s) that I got cheap off of Craigslist, but after doing some research have found out that most Pioneer speakers are actually garbage. The good ones (HPMs) are even considered overrated by many. Seeing as that was the weak spot in my system, I discussed what I was looking for with the owner and he steered me towards a few choices and let me listen to them. They're refoamed and they sound pretty fantastic. A lot less muddy and bassy than the Pioneers (though it might help that they're not on the ground).

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CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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Frozen Peach posted:

Yes, I'm a huge nerd. Why do you ask?





Holy poo poo that's awesome

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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Crosspost from the metal thread, got these in the mail today. I also picked up Tron: Legacy, Therion's second, third and fourth albums that they finally rereleased (with the original cover art!) and ABBA: Gold over the past week.

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CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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z0331 posted:

I made a very foolish purchase today but it popped up for a decent price. I’m in love.



Old one was fine but it’s a very noticeable upgrade and it looks amazing.



All I need is to finish the cabinet I’m trying to build to replace the ikea thing we got for free.

Holy poo poo that is beautiful. I've been following several vintage hifi groups on Facebook so I know what to look out for. May I ask how much you paid for it?

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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z0331 posted:

$1400

It's in almost perfect condition, though, with only two blown lamps. And it came with the wood case and even the original box, manual, and FM antenna. So overall yeah it was a lot but honestly I could probably sell it for more if I wanted to.

Not that I'd want to. We were using a Harmon Kardon from the early 2000s that was fine, but this thing absolutely kicks and I can't imaging buying a new receiver ever again.

I' ve seen how much those go for and you absolutely got a deal. And that poo poo's only going up.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
Are slipmats worth it? As in, do they do anything?

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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Frozen Peach posted:

I'm a tool because I walked in the record store, pulled two Tool albums off the wall, paid, and left.



I'm the same, I bought both of those last month. Is that the Lateralus picture disc? Mine's nice and foily and looks cool but the disc itself is kind of noisy and I've read that that's because they're picture discs. It doesn't bother me much but I'm curious as to how you think it sounds.

Undertow sounds amazing on vinyl. Real punchy. At least compared to my CD, but I swear Opiate and Undertow had bad CD mixes. I noticed my vinyl copy of Opiate sounds a ton better than my CD.

CornHolio fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Aug 4, 2022

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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angrygodofjebus posted:

The Lateralus picture disc sucks rear end sound wise on all of them. Looks great, plays like poo poo.

I didn't think it sounded that bad. Then again I have some pretty decent hearing loss from too many concerts, so take that with a grain of salt...

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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goddamn this is beautiful and I kinda want a framed copy on my wall

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CornHolio
May 20, 2001

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BigFactory posted:

He’s listening to music on a gas camp stove. What a pro

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