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 What this thread is about : We like vinyl records and would like to talk about them, as well as record stores, turntables, etc. There's not usually a whole lot of in-depth music discussion, but if you found a weird record go ahead and tell us about it, that's part of the fun! We don't tend to talk much about turntablism, scratching etc. And I can't tell you much about it myself. We often post our finds, recent additions, or our collections! Some of them are steals from garage sales! Some of them are high-ticket collectors items! Some are orange see-through vinyl of the latest hot band! Half of them are Flaming Lips, Smashing Pumpkins or White Stripes... We have a lot of different reasons for liking this format and show it in a lot of different ways, some of which may seem stupid to you (they do to me!). Don't be a jerk about it, we're all friends here and nobody's mind ever gets changed. DON'T post with download codes you get from vinyl. That's very nice of you but it clutters up the thread. You can go here for that ---- Are you new to collecting vinyl? Let's anticipate some of your questions Q: OK yeah, I just got into VINYLS a--- A: NO DON'T CALL IT THAT, EVERYBODY WILL GET UPSET! You're getting into vinyl, no "s". “Vinyl” is like “people”, or you can just call them “vinyl records” if you haven't gotten the hang of it. Or to be more specific: LPs (Long Play) – the big 12” ones that rotate at 33rpm (with some exceptions) 7”s – They are 7 inches in diameter! Typically play at 45rpm and are either an EP or a 2-sided single. In fact they are essentially the same as 45s – physically the same as 7”s, terminology usually reserved to older stuff 78s – the oldest of the bunch, they're typically 10”s diameter and play at 78rpm (if your turntable supports it) Q: How do I unwarp a record? A: You can't Q: But I saw this guide online and – A: You can't Q: I have this Journey album, how much is it worth? A: As a general rule, if a lot of people bought it in its day, it's not worth much now. But you can look up how much big ticket items went for on popsike.com. Although really, if you're selling it, be reasonable and don't go for the highest amount its sold or the “record pricing guide” book. Q: How do I clean a record? A: This is an age old and frequently debated question. There are record cleaning kits and brushes out there, a lot of people have trusted solutions of distilled water, soap and alcohol, and some buy tubs or motorized setup dedicated to that purpose. Listen to others and experiment! Q:What do you guys use to store records? A: 45s lend themselves pretty well to shoeboxes. LPs: On a small scale, today's milkcrates no longer really fit LPs, though Target etc tend to have milk-crate like bins that hold them well. Wine boxes tend to work decently well too. On a large scale, most people all over the internet point to the Ikea Expedit. I have it, it's better than the $20 bookshelves I got from craigslist, but don't expect anything more than your standard Ikea construction. I haven't heard many instances of them collapsing, but if you don't trust them, it might be worth building some yourself. 78s: I think the best way to deal with these brittle fuckers is to buy an album (as in one of those big book-like things) of lovely 78s you don't want and stick the ones you do want in there. Q: Do I really need to keep these paper sleeves and poo poo? A: Honestly, if you don't care for your records you'll probably wish you did later. You can get more inner and outer sleeves from sites like bagsunlimited.com Farts Domino fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Jul 21, 2011 |
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The HARDWARE YOUR TURNTABLE: Q: My turntable is like really really quiet when plugged into my shiny new logitech speakers/7.1 surround receiever. A: Your turntable needs a preamp. Most older receivers with a “phono” input have these built in, but modern equipment rarely does. Most $30 preamps on amazon are fine Q. There's this loud, low-pitched hum A. This could be any number of things, but most turntables need a ground in addition to the RCA cables being plugged in. Small black wire coming out of the TT needs to meet the GND part of your receiver. Q: ooh USB turntable! Does that mean I can make DIGITAL copies? A: Yeah sure, but first of all, if you're listening to your music from a receiver with a line out, that line-out goes into your computer's line in and there ya go, you can rip vinyl in Audacity or the sound editor of your choice. USB Turntables MAY let you plug directly into your computer to use its speakers, foregoing the need for a receiver. I don't know, I don't have a USB turntable. Lastly, ripping vinyl means listening to the whole album, then editing it into individual tracks. That can get real tedious, most of us don't bother unless it was never issued on any other format. BUYING A TURNTABLE: DON'T: buy one of those Crosley (or Crosley-looking) setups with a turntable packed in with a CD player in a big wooden box. We're not being snobs, they're made on the cheap and break easily. A note on modern players: vinyl might be on the rise, but turntables really aren't. Vintage turntables tend to feature a lot more features like autoplay switches, auto return, etc. That's not to say there aren't decent TTs out there, they just tend to be a little more complicated. Sub $100: Second hand. Turntables used to be the #1 format and reigned in a time when consumers really valued build quality. There are plenty of cheap turntables out there, but also plenty of great ones for cheap. There's no one model you should look out for (OK, maybe there is, but that comes later), but if you're new to all this either insist on seeing it in working order or have a good reason to believe the person (“yeah it worked last time I plugged it in” can mean 20 years ago). A lot of independent record stores sell turntables and will do this for you. They're usually simple machines and there are plenty of ways to fix them. Mid $100-$300 If you can find a used and good condition Technics 1200 line, they're often considered the gold standard in quality and reliability and have been for a few decades now. This tends to be around the price range of finding a good used one, but that'll take some snoopin'. If you can't find it, I'd suggest this wannabe Tech12: The Audiotechnica ATLP120. I haven't used the USB version but I use them every week at my radio station and find little reason to complain. $300+ I won't really call it high-end because it's clearly going for a different thing than the aforementioned, but a lot of people love the Pro-Ject Debut III player, though most quickly replace the stock Ortofon cartridge. Portable: Last I checked in on this debate, most people are split between the Vestax Handy-Trax and the Numark PT01, the latter of which is more frequently found in stores. –---- CARTRIDGES AND STYLI First of all, stylus = needle. Cartridge = needle + the part the stylus sits in (I'm writing this at non-science level). Headshell = the part the cartridge is screwed onto.  There are a million cartridges out there (though the guy at the garage sale might tell you you can get a new needle for cheap.... chances are it will be $20 if you can even get it separately from a new cartridge). If you'd like recommendations, there's a lot of love on this forum for Shure M44-7 Shure M97xE Grado Green though by all means, branch out and figure out what you like. ---- SPEAKERS/RECEIVERS ETC Most will agree that vintage sounds better, especially for the price, lots don't bother because of the problems getting them second hand. This is more of a topic for A/V Arena. --- Few other quick things: Vinyl is not necessarily better sounding than CD/Digital formats, and even then is often not perceptibly any better. We tend to like having our music on physical media and nothing beats the art of an LP. 45s may seem stupid in today's album-oriented world, but a lot of us prefer the format because of all the great artists that never cut a full-length album, as well as the low price point that lets you discover new things with little financial risk. Again, though, everybody's got their own reasons for liking it. There really aren't many good places for second-hand records online. Keeping a wishlist on Discogs has been recommended by some in this thread. Ebay is pretty high-ticket, I haven't found a reason to use GEMM or MusicStack for Ages. Support indie record stores and Record Fairs in your area! They often have better deals than you can find online or in big boxes, plus they're run by REAL PEOPLE. Thrift Stores and Garage Sales are legendary spots for great finds, but don't expect that to happen without patience and persistence. Garage sales especially can mean getting up at sunrise for the best finds. If this all seems like a hassle, it shouldn't be. Sure, there is a slightly higher learning curve than the “press play” of CDs and MP3s, but there's also a lot more depth to it. It's just music, enjoy it the way you want to. Farts Domino fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Jun 9, 2011 |
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Mister Kingdom posted:I was always fascinated by the label art on 45s. Some of my favorites are Atlantic's black & red label, the Motown "map", Atco's yellow & white, and Jet Records' spotlight labels. I'm also a sucker for colored vinyl.  (Fire was definitely a cool label too, and usually good enough songs to back it up)
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Jun 9, 2011 21:46
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Tiny Faye posted:Hey Farts Domino, I think there should be a section in the OP about where to look for new records and how to shop for older ones. Most people don't have the luxury of living near a store that actually sells new releases/reissues or even used ones.
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Jun 9, 2011 22:11
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CPL593H posted:You seem like a guy who would know this. What's a good place to start with the B-52s? Is it best to just go in order?
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Jun 16, 2011 07:37
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Not an Anthem posted:Whats up Chicago punk/oi collector. Jim Russel's is pretty legendary though. According to Denise they were the largest record distributor in the southeast, and Jim Russel himself was a pioneer in rock & roll radio. I sat in on a lecture with him at the Ponderosa Stomp and it was one of the most wonderfully insane things I'd ever heard.
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Jun 16, 2011 19:17
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Not an Anthem posted:Haha, well, I don't know who ran it. Confusing. When I went in some hipster sorta guy was trying to talk to me about old punk and some 70s RNR, then he left, and a woman was left running it who I assume is denise but she was absolutely hilarious. Tried to talk to me about xbox live the whole time and video games which I knew little to nothing about, but played nice to try to garnish any sympathy discount when it came time to check out (I hate places that don't price stuff).
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Jun 17, 2011 04:53
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Garage sale day! Woke up early and was rewarded. Although the one I woke up early for just had a really nice jacket that fit my small body. I got there a half-hour early but immediately saw a guy walking away with a box of records. I don't know what the hell he took because for $1 each Ernie K-Doe - self-titled Howlin Wolf - Red Rooster (sealed 80s compilation, but sounds good) The Ventures - The Ventures Clarence Frogman Henry - is alive and well and still doin' his thing in New Orleans (signed!) Bobby Bland - Two Steps from the Blues James Brown - Showtime live at the Apollo (slightly better condition than the one I had) two copies of Clint West & the Boogie Kings - s/t (great rare Louisiana swamp pop) Bo Diddley & Chuck Berry - Two Great Guitars Cannibal and the Headhunters - Land of 1,000 Dances and a few great local 45s, two of which went for ~$30 on Popsike, not that I'm reselling them
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Jun 18, 2011 18:04
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cosmicjim posted:And hold on to your gatefold sleeves and jackets, folks, you'll be needing those for your new discs.
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Jun 18, 2011 21:34
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 Not my record but I was filing another one on this label (Ponderosa Twins Plus One) and thought I'd show off another cool 45 label. Unforunately it doesn't list the other signs on the flipside
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Jun 23, 2011 04:30
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Just when I was about done with garage sales today I finally found some stuff. None of the covers are in great shape, but for most the vinyl was fine Velvet Underground - White Light / White Heat (had a big line through side 2 but sounds fine) Kronos Quartet - Kronos Quartet (sealed) Eubie Blake - Blues & Rags Lightnin' Hopkins - the best of Mike Batt - Six Days in Berlin Mike Heron - Smiling Me with bad Reputations Mothers of Invention - Ruben & the Jets Taj Mahal - Giant Step/Olde Folks at Home The Rolling Stones - Aftermath "" - Between the Buttons "" - Beggars Banquet Country Joe and the Fish - I Feel Like I'm Fixin' To Die ....for 50 cents apiece
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Jun 25, 2011 17:58
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Jun 26, 2011 06:02
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Even though my portable is always in my car, I'm always too hesitant to bring it out, especially at thrift stores and garage sales. I kind of understand stores not keeping demo turntables. In this day and age where a lot of people didn't grow up with vinyl, you're putting a lot of trust in the customer to not scratch it back and forth saying "hur hur I'm a deejay!"
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Jun 29, 2011 19:11
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I see my Quintron shows at Quintron's house  but yeah, I think radio shows are often a good recipe for having records left out of their sleeves and piled on top of each other until the end of the show, not to mention people that don't know how to cue a record and pinch the tone arm and practically push the needle onto the wax. That said in the studio I don't see many cases where there's a big X scratched into the record like I do in thrift stores. I swear some people really wanted to murder their music
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Jun 30, 2011 16:41
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Ron Burgundy posted:It's funny you should mention this, because many of the ex radio records I bought had big yellow china-graph x's over the tracks the producers didn't want the DJ to play. They came off easy enough, but I kept a couple for radio nostalgia. On singles, they went as far as to actually rip the label off the B side. Farts Domino fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jun 30, 2011 |
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Jun 30, 2011 17:28
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Ron Burgundy posted:No, not the label, the playing surface! I received a crate of records that looked like this.
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Jun 30, 2011 21:05
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milk teeth posted:flippin thru lps at value village this morning & up comes:
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Jul 7, 2011 15:50
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Wilbur Swain posted:Herb Alpert is still releasing albums. His 60's output is all of a similar quality, with possible standouts being The Lonely Bull and the Christmas album. This track from 1979 might sound familiar:
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Jul 7, 2011 20:29
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wait I can't tell if we're joking anymore, Whipped Cream is insanely easy to find. In fact, it would be fun to have a Whipped Cream race to see who can accumulate the most copies of that album in one day.
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Jul 7, 2011 20:56
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I Might Be Adam posted:I'm in New Orleans until tomorrow. Any must visit record shops? Someone was talking about Russell's but from what I read, it wasn't recommended. I'm not into punk so much. Would be great to find a nice haul on some old jazz and rock records or maybe some local outfits. Any suggestions? it's a shame you came this week because I'm organizing this 
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Jul 16, 2011 23:21
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yes it rules! I'm surprised it hasn't lead to more records being soaked in root beer spills
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JehovahsWetness posted:Found a couple of upgrades not pictured plus some new releases (Stone Coal White, Father's Children). A couple of those are local finds, but I haven't had the chance to dig in the last couple of weeks. Bruce Haack and Joe McPhee turned up at an antique store in a tiny mountain town nearby (pop 2,300) that I was driving through after going to a friend's cabin. Definite weird find, hopefully something as good turns up next week.
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Jul 20, 2011 01:31
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fozzie dunlop posted:I went ahead and made a thread for download codes in Coupons. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3426248
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Jul 21, 2011 06:37
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Well, usually I make out a little better, but the hard truth is that if you run a record fair, you won't get to look through the stuff until others have picked through the best stuff. Still went really well though, huge turnout My haul: LPs Ike & Tina - Live at Carnegie Hall (if this is full of Tina doing "Now listen ladies, how many y'all have a man that says blah blah blah" then goddamn) The Boogie Kings - The Boogie Kings Dr John the Nighttripper - The Sun, Moon and Herbs Earl Palmer - Drumsville Barefoot Jerry - Barefoot Jerry 45s these all 50cents to a dollar: Mitch Ryder + Detroit Wheels - One Grain of Salt / Too Many Fish in the Sea Mitch Ryder + Detroit Wheels - A Face in the Crowd / Come See About Me Mitch Ryder + Detroit Wheels - Takin' All I can Get / You Get Your Kicks Shadows of Knight - Bad Little Woman / Gospel Zone Shadows of Knight - Light Bulb Blues / Oh Yeah The Rivieras - Lakeview Lane / Let's Go To Hawaii The Rivieras - Let's Have a Party / Little Donna Bill Collins - Border Beat / Upturn General Crook - Gimme Some Part 1 / Gimme Some Part 2 The Spacemen - The Clouds / The Lonely Jet Pilot Whatnauts - I can't Stand to See You Cry / Instigating (Trouble Making Fool) Floyd Brown - Hurt You, haunt You, Heal You / (same) (local) Baby Cortez - I turned to you / I Know Who You Been Socking It To (curious about his later stuff) These 45s totalling to about $35 Mody-Vation - Ghetto Kung Fu parts 1 & 2 The Chiefs - Dee's Dream / Apache! The Pop-ups - Candy Rock / Lurking Egyptian Combo - Gale Winds / Rockin' Little Egypt The Cheerleaders - True Love most excitingly, I'm usually happy if I break even with selling. Even with giving my brother a $50 cut for helping sell, I made $150 and probably only spent about 75ish. Shouldn't have sold Nighthawks in the Diner for $8 though, I don't know why I intentionally leave steals amidst my stuff
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Jul 24, 2011 03:34
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Wow that's actually kind of competitive pricing vs. Ikea expedits and looks like decent build quality (anything beats Ikea for that). Trying to find if they have them in 4x4
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Jul 24, 2011 05:12
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Mescal posted:Where are my 45s for tennessee ernie ford's Sixteen Tons I went to a flea market yesterday in McComb, Mississippi (they took Bo Diddley's blues trail marker down for repairs!) and found what I thought were some really crazy country 45s. Looked 'em up... nope, they appear to be pretty run-of-the-mill despite the fact that I've never seen them Here's one of their labels, it's pretty 
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Jul 29, 2011 12:26
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Stuntman posted:Repost:
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Jul 30, 2011 12:57
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Dmitri-9 posted:A record store in CT called Redscroll Records. I don't know if they have another copy of Cross but you can probably get it on ebay or discogs for the same price. It's probably gonna run you $25-30 no matter where you go.
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Aug 9, 2011 21:15
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Ron Burgundy posted:The bins are cool and all, but the constant shuffling really stuffs up the bottoms of the covers, and the angle they sit on is just asking for warps. But they do look really cool. Maybe just keep your James Last up the top.
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Aug 15, 2011 15:00
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I think usually the back ones are pretty straight, mostly because when they're all pulled forward people usually jam the last one into the corner. But I'm not in a record store right now and can't really vouch for either of us. It would seem to me that most stores wouldn't go for that method of shelving if it posed much of a risk of damaging their merch
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Aug 15, 2011 15:26
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Ron Burgundy posted:They are much better than milk crates though. Seriously, gently caress milk crates. Thanks for scraping the spine off this album you plastic piece of poo poo.
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Aug 15, 2011 16:21
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I keep an eye out for the Hannah Barberra records. They've got a few 60s releases that are actually pretty sick surf records
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Aug 18, 2011 16:34
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Red posted:Which ones? The guy had some Huckleberry Hound, but I figured, you know, it's loving Huckleberry Hound.
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Aug 18, 2011 17:27
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Ron Burgundy posted:You are a serial threadshitter so I reply half-aasedly by saying that there have already been situations where we have had to build machines to play back material from the same century that no longer had original machines. The main advantage to analog archiving (aside from obvious digital vs. analog quality arguments) is that it will continue to exist after people cease to care. Which sounds like an "eh" statement but there's a lot of stuff to archive and not all of it will find somebody to maintain digital backups
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Aug 24, 2011 05:10
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Jerry Cotton posted:Also, belt-drive has no advantages over direct drive per se. There were some lovely DD players made at some point but the SL-1200 was not one of them.
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Aug 25, 2011 14:08
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Jerry Cotton posted:A lot of
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Aug 25, 2011 17:43
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Owsla posted:Buying: Search for common misspellings - plenty of sites do it for you
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Sep 5, 2011 19:59
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I've always tried it the hard way, guessing misspellings and such
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Skipped work to go to the Ponderosa Stomp record fair on Friday, stood up for about 4 hours straight and spent about $200 on 45s but ohhhh my god left with wonderful stuff. There was a wall of three guys selling rare-as-poo poo cajun-land 45s, one of them selling all of it for $5 apiece. A good day of record hunting leaves me with primarily rock&roll instrumentals for my radio show. A CRAZY one leaves me with a chunk of Louisiana rock & roll instrumentals. I mean one of them is practically the holy grail I never knew existed: for $5 I got a 45 from Lafayette with two sides of crazy greasy instrumentals with cats meowing all over it called "Pussy Cat" by the Continentals. A bunch of really great funk 45s too. Some Barabara Lynn, Eddie Bo, Lightnin' Slim, a later Ernie Vincent (not one of those super-rare ones), Eskew Reeder, Alvin Cash (I think I'm approaching his full discography), and Harvey Scales. Unlike the one I do, it's vinyl only and as it's for a show/conference full of obscure record collector artists, the dealers, many of them the same from my shows, were leaving the Led Zepellins at home and pulling out the big guns. I accused some of holding out on me. I think the only reason I got some of the stuff I did for a decent price was because we were swimming in it. And something I got a kick out of: let a guy borrow my portable turntable to demo some of his 45s. He was wearing an Untamed Youth shirt, but even as a surf nut I figured that's not that crazy for an event like that so while we chatted a little I didn't mention it. Turns out, a friend was friends with Deke Dickerson (from Untamed Youth) and it was revealed that my record fair friend was drummer for both Phantom Surfers and the Mummies.
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So I have a pretty good amount of people listening to my radio show and and a lot of them are urging me to DJ out a little bit, spin some 45s at local clubs. I've got some money saved up (thinking about a grand or so) and some songs I want to play, so why not? Unfortunately, my thrift-store style of learning equipment doesn't really help me here, so I was wondering if anybody had some equipment recommendations. I'll probably get two AT-PL120s, they're probably good enough for the task and I'm used to them, but I could use some cart, coffin, and possibly even mixer recommendations (I've got one that might work fine but who knows). I'm not about to get started with turntablism, I'm just going to be spinning some surf/garage/mod/funk whatevers, but I want to be able to lug poo poo around easily and for it to be well-suited to whatever might come up. Anybody have any experience? Farts Domino fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Sep 22, 2011 |
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