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Oh, right attachment vote! What I call Team Blind: Eyepatch for Yuri, Blindfold for Raven, Glasses for Estelle, Visor for Judith, Nerdy Glasses for Karol
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    Skit: Torim, the Center of Trade Torim feels a lot more like a port city than Nor did, don't you think? Yes, it's lively, and the port is full of ships. That's because Torim is run by Fortune's Market. They control shipping all over the world. I'm pretty sure Fortune's Market has their headquarters in Torim. I guess business can keep a city running if people want it to. I never would've thought of that. And with that, we're off to Caer Bocram. As most world-map travels, this is rather short and uneventful, except for our new artes:    Repede's Sonic Return, where Repede charges then enemy, then jumps back.    Karol's Nice Recovery Smash, similar to Nice Aid Smash but it heals status aliments instead of HP.     Yuri's Dragon Swarm, an awesome arte where Yuri does some acrobatics to hit the enemy multiple times with his sword and kicks. The disadvantage is that it's long and thus it's possible to either kill the enemy or just plain miss him and then hit some air for a while. After 200 or so uses, though, you can cancel the arte midway by blocking, which negates that.    Estelle's Delight Roll, where she swings her weapon low, throwing enemies into the air.    And Rita's ζ＝δτ(ωρ) "Laplace", where she jumps up and smashes enemies downwards with her book.  And with that, we're at Caer Bocram. Watch the cutscene! Dungeon video available!    Man, this place is a total wreck. Do you seriously think anybody would come to a place like this? I wonder if we've been fed some false information again. Again...? That voice...?! Nan! All right! I finally found you! ... Don't take that buddy-buddy tone with me. Aw, don't be like that. I only got a little lost. A little lost? That's a good one! You know you just ran away! I didn't run away, I swear! Still making excuses, huh? It's not an excuse! I beat an eggbear, just like I said I would! More lies. I-I mean it! Remind me who it was that said, "I swear I won't run away this time." You always run and hide at the first sign of trouble. You've been kicked out of every guild in the book. ...Hah! Even we've already fired you! W-wait! You have been warned by the Hunting Blades! Leave this area at once! Nan runs back into the town.  Nan! ... This still doesn't explain what the Hunting Blades are doing here. Good point. She never said we weren't allowed to enter. But what about the "risking our lives" part? Are you implying that I should listen to that brat? Don't make me laugh. At any rate, the Blood Alliance doesn't seem to be here. Let's have a look around.  Skit: Karol, Fired Man...why did it have to end up like this... They said...they said I was f-f-fired... Karol, keep your spirits up! I can't be happy anymore... It's like her words are a dagger in my heart... She was just worried it'd be too dangerous for you. There's still hope. Huh? Y-you think so?! ...Uh, whatever, I don't care about what she thinks! The problem is your guild, right? I get it. R-right, yeah. I don't care about Nan... This hurts to watch. I'm rooting for you, Karol! Caer Bocram is a dungeon with lots of different areas to check out and paths to take, although they're all closed off right now.  The doors are locked, and the other way to traverse is turned off:   Hey, get your grubby mitts off it! Of course... It's slightly different from the norm, but it looks like a type of warp blastia. Its activating mechanism is... Let's see... Huh...? What's the matter? ...There's no activation switch! It's properly equipped with a core, and it doesn't look like it's the type where you can activate it by removing the core. So maybe there's an activation switch located somewhere else? Perhaps... If there were another blastia like this one in this town. It wouldn't be too unusual for there to be some device to manage all of them at once. Oh, so we can't activate it, then? Too bad... Huh? Why's it too bad? Nah, I just had a hunch it would lead to something interesting... Blastia isn't a toy, you know! Couldn't we just look for the device that's managing it? Yes... Sure, maybe we can find it... Skit: Doesn't Seem Like an Earthquake Was this town really destroyed by an earthquake? The buildings all look kind of strange... Yeah. They don't really look like they collapsed from the ground shaking... Something's weird. Yeah, so...how were they destroyed, then? Got me. Maybe we can find out by asking someone who used to live in the town. That's not really why we're here though, so why should we care? You actually have a point there. Walking to the left leads us to the room with the activation device after a short walk.  Should we head back? Or... Hold on, I'm going to have a look around. Weird, there's not a keyhole or anything... Really...?    What the...? I wouldn't want Captain Karol to dirty his hands on such a filthy door! Oh, uh, r-right, ah hah hah... *Sigh* Well, shall we? Wouldn't it be crazy if a monster just gobbled up your foot right now? Just a giant munch, and oops, no more foot. Heh, looks fine to me. Let's go inside. What am I, your test dummy?! What's this do? Get your grubby mitts off it! I don't want to have to tell you again! It seems like it might be an activation switch for the warp blastia upstairs. Nothing's happening. It doesn't have enough aer. Not enough...aer... ...I wonder if that ring I got in the Shaikos Ruins might be able to do anything. Ah, the Sorcerer's Ring. I'm not sure... But you might as well give it a try.Yuri shoots the Sorcerer's Ring at it.  Maybe that means we'll be able to use the warp blastia upstairs! Let's go!Besides activating the warp blastia, this also opens up the locked doors for some reason.  Inside, we can find some items, along with this thing:   Mysterious. Anyway, going back to the blastia...  So that was the activation device, after all! Then hurry up and-- Hold your horses. This is just like in the Shaikos Ruins. If you don't fill up the core with aer, it won't work. Ah, so I should use the Sorcerer's Ring. Right.   Using those devices, we can shoot us to different parts of the dungeon, although often some of the choices presented will not lead anywhere. On this one, for example, I picked Forward; going Left or Right would put us back on the same level as the device is, not helping us at all. Skit: The Hunting Blades What do the Hunting Blades mainly do, as a guild? Like their name says, they make their living hunting monsters. It's not like there's any shortage of monsters once you're outside the barriers. Business must be booming. Yeah, they definitely get a lot of commissions. But the Hunting Blades aren't killing monsters just because someone asked them to. Monsters are evil. This evil must be punished. That's the creed of the Hunting Blades. I wonder if any of them are doing it just for their own personal grudges against monsters. Oh yeah. A lot of people. Like, Nan's parents were killed right before her eyes when she was a kid. Huh. It'd be hard not to hold a grudge after something like that.  Some houses have warp blastia on their roof, which we can reach from inside.  Up here, we find the Hunting Blades, but we keep a safe distance. Watch the (unvoiced) cutscene!   ...aren't here after all. Those guys are the Hunting Blades. Th-that man...we saw him in Deidon Hold. Ah, now that you mention it, we did see him. So he's the leader of your guild, then. Yeah, he's Clint, the leader of the Hunting Blades. He's gonna fight that monster all by himself?      He took it out in one hit...? That was a fatal strike. A fatal strike? It's a crazy-powerful technique that extremely skilled swordsmen can use. Hmmm... So how do you do it? How do you do it...? H-how should I know?! "Fatal strike--A strong attack which throws your opponent off balance, followed by a single, well-timed strike to finish the enemy." Is that something else you read in a book? Y-yes, it is... You really want to get back into the guild, don't you? Wh-what makes you say that? What...? Karol, are you going to go back into the guild? I won't go back...! I'm sick and tired of monster hunting. N-no. I had been planning on leaving for a while. Oh, really? Well, whatever you say. So, uh, let's get going. Well, I'm glad you're staying with us, Karol. Anyway, what do you think they're doing with such a large contingent? Yeah, if they wanted to take out that monster we saw, one person would've been enough. This is actually the first time I've ever seen this many guild members gathered in one place. Really? Yeah, a lot of the members are loners. They tend not to travel in groups. Curiouser and curiouser... Want to...follow them and see what they're up to? Nah, that sounds interesting, but I'm gonna keep going. He's looking for members of the Blood Alliance, after all. Right, Yuri? Yeah, I don't want to worry about two guilds. One is more than enough!If we walk a few steps backwards, which we eventually have to to, Yuri gets an idea.  I think I'll try to do that thing. That thing? That fatal strike thing. You can't just imitate what you saw and hope it'll work... Hey, I won't know if I can until I try. How did it go again? Uh, uhh, first, you go and attack the enemy to throw it off balance... Alrighty... "Alrighty"? Ah...! I see it! Huh? S-see what? I see my opening to attack!   Yuri, that was amazing... Nah, I was just copying what I saw. I didn't think it was the sort of thing you can just copy like that... Well, you need a little skill, but it's not really that hard. You think you could do it while watching me? N-no way! It takes a skilled swordsman to do something like that... I know that. But Karol, you're not as bad as you make yourself out to be. I'm, I'm not? You too, Estelle. R-really...? Alright, let's go.Fatal Strikes are neat. From now on, our artes have a direction/color attribute - green for sideways, blue for upwards, red for downwards - corresponding to one of the enemy's bars we can see when changing target:  By using an arte, we now deplete the bar corresponding with the arte's direction. You can also use default attacks (side, up or down) to deplete them at a lower rate. When it gets low, some sparks in the corresponding color will appear on the enemy:  And once it's empty, a glyph appears on the next hit with that direction (in this case it must be an arte, not a normal attack!).  By pressing the Fatal Strike button, default RT/R2, while the glyph is visible and the enemy is targetted, you will execute a Fatal Strike.    Fatal Strikes will instantly kill any normal enemy, and do big damage to bosses. By killing enemies with a Fatal Strike, the amount of EXP earned, LP earned or the item drop chance will increase, depening on the color/direction used and the enemy in question. You can increase this bonus by using FS Chains, that is, making glyphs appear on the enemy several times in a row without actually striking: The higher the chain, the better the bonus. Another thing to note is that different enemies can be weaker or stronger to certain Fatal Strike directions. For example, an enemy's blue bar might take a while to go down, while the red one will deplete in only a few hits. All in all, it's a fun mechanic that makes battles much more interesting. Doing our first Fatal Strike gives us an achievement/trophy: Achievement/Trophy:  First Strike Skit: Estelle, the Historian Wow... These buildings are from the late Ellicasm civilization! It must be a very old town. You seem to know a lot about these things...as always. It's such a shame they just let the city fall apart like this... Do you really think we're in any position to be sightseeing around this moldy old city? We do have things we need to be doing... Then shouldn't we be focusing on them instead of this little tour? Oh wow... That round roof is using the Lian method, first developed by Emperor Heliorus IV! But I guess we should do something about that first... Yeah.Trying out my Fatal Strikes, Karol learns another arte:    He smashes his weapon into the ground, then pulls it back out, hitting enemies down then throwing them skywards.       More password clues, can you figure it out?    Done with exploring, we actually want to head down those stairs here.  And that's where we stop for today. Next time, we'll see the reason the Hunting Blades are here. ----- Noteworthy loot acquired in this dungeon:  Strength: Attack +5%. Defend: Defense +5%. Anti Break: Reduces chance of getting your guard broken.  Magic Guard Plus: Reduces damage recieved during Magic Guard.  Dash: Increases movement speed in battle. Nice. Recover  Strength: Attack +5%. Swords Up: Increases attack power when using a sword.  Backstep Evade: Speed +5%. Admiral H. 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Jul 24, 2011 23:51
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:
Yuri is a glorious rear end in a top hat. That is all.
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Jul 25, 2011 01:39
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What the...?
I wouldn't want Captain Karol to dirty his hands on such a filthy door!
Oh, uh, r-right, ah hah hah...
*Sigh*
Well, shall we?
Heh, looks fine to me. Let's go inside.
What am I, your test dummy?!
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Does Estelle have some kind of eidetic memory or does she just like reciting the encyclopaedia for fun? I get that she's book smart and that reading was her window to the world at large, but I think I'd buy it a bit more if some things she only vaguely remembered instead of always having perfect clarity. Granted "I think I heard about this, but I'm not totally sure" doesn't lend itself to the most meaningful conversations but you get get my point.
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Jul 25, 2011 02:14
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resurgam40 posted:Yuri is a glorious rear end in a top hat. That is all. This sums up most of the game, actually.
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Jul 25, 2011 02:16
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Elite posted:Does Estelle have some kind of eidetic memory or does she just like reciting the It peters out after a while. It does rear back up once in a while, but it mostly goes away once the game's done introducing the world at large.
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Jul 25, 2011 02:16
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Does Karol ever get a gigantic sword weapon like his initial equipment (before Yuri broke it), or is it all axes and hammers from here on out?
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Jul 25, 2011 03:22
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Tuxedo Ted posted:Does Karol ever get a gigantic sword weapon like his initial equipment (before Yuri broke it), or is it all axes and hammers from here on out? You can repair the broken sword to it's original glory if you were smart and didn't sell it like so many people did the first time around. Also, yes.
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Jul 25, 2011 03:24
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Fatal Strikes are amazing, and Rita has the most fun one to use. Literally does a kamehameha that hits from across the field. She was the easiest to get the Fatal Striker title for.
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Jul 25, 2011 03:28
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SpazmasterX posted:You can repair the broken sword to it's original glory if you were smart and didn't sell it like so many people did the first time around. You also have to do a specific synthesis order, because it's easy to gently caress it up and lock yourself out of that ONE synthesis, I believe. And 
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Jul 25, 2011 03:38
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Psion posted:You also have to do a specific synthesis order, because it's easy to gently caress it up and lock yourself out of that ONE synthesis, I believe. And That synthesis also makes getting a completed item book impossible in a single play through. So what does Patty do in all of these cutscenes? Is she just kinda hanging around in the back ground or does she get little lines every now and then?
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Jul 25, 2011 04:04
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Solice Kirsk posted:That synthesis also makes getting a completed item book impossible in a single play through. She left the party back when we got out of Ragou's Dungeon for Little Kids.
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Jul 25, 2011 04:05
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Solice Kirsk posted:That synthesis also makes getting a completed item book impossible in a single play through. Nope, if you synth Hammer +1 first, you'll get a recipe that makes Sword from Hammer +1. This is by the way an oversight, since in the PS3 version they allow you to synth Karol's starting equipment.
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Jul 25, 2011 04:18
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Another thing about FSes is that while you can deplete the bar with normal attacks, you can only trigger the symbol by using an arte. You also can't press RT too early when the symbol appears, which is what I initially had trouble with: if you try to press it before it's fully formed, it just disappears and you lose your chance. FS chains also stay in effect as long as the enemy glows black after their FS symbol disappears, which is either a set perioid of time or until that enemy manages to hit you. Finally, FSes and FS chains give a decent amount of Grade and repeatedly performing FS chains for extended perioids of time is the preferred way to farm Grade once the need arises.
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Jul 25, 2011 05:22
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AnotherGamer posted:Finally, FSes and FS chains give a decent amount of Grade and repeatedly performing FS chains for extended perioids of time is the preferred way to farm Grade once the need arises. That's a peripheral effect. It helps, certainly, but the real grade farming doesn't really depend on that aspect.
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Jul 25, 2011 05:32
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Fatal Strikes seem like a fun mechanic to use. Though it seems like Admiral Curtiss had a little trouble activating it in the dungeon video. Also, I like how Yuri, Estelle, and Rita don't bother Karol constantly about his guild problems. It just gives off the feeling that they accept each other enough to not ask about private matters.
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Jul 25, 2011 08:47
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Fatal strike ninja'ing is a great way to put a strain on your friendships. But if you get the timing right on a boss you can actually get one strike for each player from just one glyph.
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Jul 25, 2011 08:55
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Nondevor posted:Fatal Strikes seem like a fun mechanic to use. Though it seems like Admiral Curtiss had a little trouble activating it in the dungeon video. They're difficult to pull off in normal battles because typically the enemies die before you get the symbol. It's really something you use more on bosses.
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Jul 25, 2011 08:59
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Raitzeno posted:That's a peripheral effect. It helps, certainly, but the real grade farming doesn't really depend on that aspect. How so? Pretty sure where that's most of the Grade comes from: the highest max hit bonus is at 999 and you only get it once per battle and no other repeatable uncapped action nets you nearly as much Grade, especially since you can repeatedly trigger FS chains on every monster at the same time with the easiest method. Sure, you get some extra Grade for juggling enemies at the same time but it's not as much and doesn't happen automatically.
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Jul 25, 2011 09:04
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I was pretty sure most of what I was getting was coming from juggling 8 enemies for an hour or two while I watched a movie on another screen.
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Jul 25, 2011 09:07
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AnotherGamer is right. FS chains are the main source of grade for farming.
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Jul 25, 2011 09:09
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:More password clues, can you figure it out? "Light", "sky", "sphere"? A sphere in the sky that gives off light? Moon, sun, Venus?
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Jul 25, 2011 09:24
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So can you like put on crappy weapons or something so you have Fatal Strikes happening every battle?
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Jul 25, 2011 15:45
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There is a special skill for that, that looks absolutely useless. You will know it when you see it. If you really feel like knowing what it is, there is a skill that reduces all damage output to 1. Looks useless, but is actually a godsend for farming grade.
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Jul 25, 2011 16:20
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CrookedB posted:"Light", "sky", "sphere"? A sphere in the sky that gives off light? Moon, sun, Venus? The answer is: -----Sun.----- You'd be surprised how hard it was for some people to figure this out.
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Jul 25, 2011 16:50
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SpazmasterX posted:You'd be surprised how hard it was for some people to figure this out. The first time I played this, I thought the password hints were the password.
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Jul 25, 2011 21:19
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BreakTargets posted:The first time I played this, I thought the password hints were the password. Holy poo poo is your avatar made from the gif I did for my LP?
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Jul 25, 2011 22:36
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wdarkk posted:Holy poo poo is your avatar made from the gif I did for my LP? No, it's from the other Tales of Symphonia LP.
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Jul 25, 2011 23:35
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BreakTargets posted:No, it's from the other Tales of Symphonia LP. That's a weird coincidence, since I made a similar gif for mine.
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Jul 25, 2011 23:46
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Psion posted:You also have to do a specific synthesis order, because it's easy to gently caress it up and lock yourself out of that ONE synthesis, I believe. And Yes. Yes it is. It is completely possible to gently caress yourself out of 100% collection that way. Guess who just did it? Also gently caress the get every save point achievement.
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Jul 26, 2011 00:00
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Oh that one's easy, just save every time you see a save point and you're pretty much set. If you missed one after that it's probably the one in the bottommost right room of Ghasfarost, or the one in the fully-built Aurnion. Unless you're playing the PS3 version, which adds a new (and really loving annoying) bonus dungeon with an assload of save points. But we'll get to that when we get to that.
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Jul 26, 2011 00:04
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SpazmasterX posted:The answer is: -----Sun.----- Yeah I remember people saying things like they thought they had to change the letters to numbers, or other crazy stuff. I can't imagine seeing those three words then immediately going to such an abstract method to solve it.
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YamiNoSenshi posted:Guess who just did it? I at least got that second one without trying too hard since I'm obsessive about saves. Anyway, since apparently Fatal Strikes are the cool kids way to grade farm, somebody point me towards the hot grade farming technique. I've cleared out my 360 backlog and I'm going to try and 1000/1000 this game. Hence, I need some grade, because hahahaha no I will not try to get everyone to max level and all that crazy poo poo without a 10x multiplier.
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Jul 26, 2011 03:59
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I've never actually done it myself, but this guide seems to be on the level. http://www.giantbomb.com/guides/grade-farming/373/
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^^^^^:  Well, I forgot about Speed Cast, I guess.Put Light Magic, Minimum Damage, Spell End, O.L. Boost and other helpful Skills on Rita. Put Taunt and Taunt 2 on the other three and give them Dice. Set the difficulty as high as you want and set the other three to Defend. Use a Dark Bottle and try to get a big Link Encounter (8 enemies is ideal). Make sure your Overlimit is full. Go Overlimit with Rita and start spamming Tidal Wave. When her Overlimit starts to run out, go overlimit again and keep going. If you have enough enemies, you should be able to maintain level 3 Overlimit indefinitely, so you can keep going until you get bored and get as much Grade as you want.
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Jul 26, 2011 04:09
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Brütal (accent credit to my friend) is an infinite minion spawner, so use that.
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Jul 26, 2011 04:11
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Disagree. You only get five enemies at a time with him. You really want eight.
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hahah holy poo poo, forgot to install Vesperia to HD, forgot how much the 360 sounds like a turbine. Anyway, I did a little bit of this on my save before putting the game down. Hopefully, I won't need to farm for very long to get all the stuff I need to max out everything, then once I'm back in practice after doing a max-level-everything run the low-level achievement should be a snap. "should" Psion fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Jul 26, 2011 |
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Adus posted:Yeah I remember people saying things like they thought they had to change the letters to numbers, or other crazy stuff. I can't imagine seeing those three words then immediately going to such an abstract method to solve it. You wanna know stupid? I got incredibly frustrated with it because I put THE sun and when that didn't work I tried like 5 other things before smacking myself in the head and dropping the first part...
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