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hamza
Mar 3, 2007


28 Gun Bad Boy posted:

Never fear guys, it's all planned. We're going all the way up to the present(roughly) with these guides so you'll just need to meditate for wee bit as we'll get round to it eventually. Sooner rather than later for garage. There's going to be at least 1 more Jungle entry, then from there we follow the musical current and get into the garage ting. Whether it'll be one entry or maybe 2, seperating the original 4x4 UK thing/Speed garage, from the later 2-Step stuff I'm not quite sure yet, we'll see.

28GBB: I hope you are planning to either (yourself or someone else for you) collate these when they're all done as an eBook.

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Bang Me Please
Jul 15, 2003

im so mumped up lmao

I'm gonna have to go back and read the previous 28 gun bad boy posts ITT because the darkside one was solid and the late 80s-mid 90s UK sounds were amazing and some of my favorite music of all time. Definitely waiting on the next Jungle installment!

28 Gun Bad Boy
Nov 5, 2009

Never been to Belgium

You now there is that other thread going on (you know what one I mean) it reminded me I managed to catch Karnage's Rinse set on Sunday there, with the last hour or so pure grime. loving cracking set that ya'll should get on. Download it off the Rinse podcast site. Worth it just for the lyric "On the iPad/Watching porn"

Anyway it really reminded me that the more aggressive, jump-up stuff the Dubstep guys do is just blown away with what those grime boys do. Buzzsaws and wobbles and machine gun tones, man they just kill it. Spitting over it all just gels it together so loving well. The wild noise stuff is kept contained all up in a concentrated blast rather than just swinging limply in the dark trying to show how tough it is. You want aggressive rather than just white boi tight jean fitted cap wannabe-aggro posturing? You need to get on that, show you how it should be done.

linkwood
May 3, 2011

by T. Finninho


just wanna chime in with my appreciation for this thread and for 28GBB in general. so much knowledge and passion emanating from these awesome posts. i've always had an appreciation for jungle / d'n'b and the like though it never really went beyond the stuff on labels like metalheadz and reinforced. but this thread has really inspired me to start exploring 'cuz there's just so much awesome stuff to learn abt and appreciate. i also second the ebook motion--that would be sick!

28 Gun Bad Boy
Nov 5, 2009

Never been to Belgium

Again thanks everyone for the kind words. I don't know about an eBook or anything like that. It's not really like it's some fancy thing or anything. It's just a little thing I do that I hope brings some enjoyment and knowledge to this thread and forum.

Anyway for some actual content that I meant to post yesterday. Blackdown talks to Roska about his forthcoming Rinse mix CD. I'm really looking forward to it, especially now I know it's got that "In The Deep" track by T. Williams. XLR8R even gave out the fantastic Zander Hardy remix as a free download. It was one of my favourite records of last year (can you believe it was almost a full year ago already?), as is all the stuff Deep Teknologi puts out. Deep, dark 'n' funky.

Maguro
Apr 24, 2006

Why is the sun always bullying me?

Whistla uploaded a new tune on youtube, it's very very "whistla" sounding but I still dig it:

Whistla - Never Again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfr7edTwO5A

Police Academy 6
Jul 12, 2006


hey, thanks for this thread. the "electro/house" thread makes my head hurt. i've been listening to a lot of perc and sigha lately and they're sort of on the edge between techno and dub. anyone else digging that sort of thing?

mr box
Mar 6, 2001


Police Academy 6 posted:

hey, thanks for this thread. the "electro/house" thread makes my head hurt. i've been listening to a lot of perc and sigha lately and they're sort of on the edge between techno and dub. anyone else digging that sort of thing?

if you mean actual dub you should go and listen to basic channel/rhythm & sound if you haven't already:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgV2OXldFiA .

a massive influence on berlin techno and related musics (and certainly sigha)

mr box
Mar 6, 2001


actress continues to torture his samples...

http://www.factmag.com/2011/07/13/a...olet-treatment/

and he uploaded this to twitter last night:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/1ky4su

the most original sound coming out of london right now imo. if his new album was anything like the previous two then i'll probably have it on repeat play till christmas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcnRT-m9MYo

hamza
Mar 3, 2007


Police Academy 6 posted:

hey, thanks for this thread. the "electro/house" thread makes my head hurt. i've been listening to a lot of perc and sigha lately and they're sort of on the edge between techno and dub. anyone else digging that sort of thing?


You should check out DFRNT's blog and podcast, Sitting Ovation and Insight. He posts a lot of these kinds of tracks.

beeps-a-palooza
Jan 2, 2009

by T. Finn


im playing out in dc this week and want to bring out some future bass/2stepish tunes.

Are there any compilation albums that I should cop(aside from soul jazz future bass)? Maybe some decent ep's I should pick up?

SUBFRIES
Apr 10, 2008



beeps-a-palooza posted:

im playing out in dc this week and want to bring out some future bass/2stepish tunes.

Are there any compilation albums that I should cop(aside from soul jazz future bass)? Maybe some decent ep's I should pick up?

Where are you playing, The Loft?

beeps-a-palooza
Jan 2, 2009

by T. Finn


nope, heaven & hell. saturday at 11

SUBFRIES
Apr 10, 2008



beeps-a-palooza posted:

nope, heaven & hell. saturday at 11

Good luck. No idea who is trying to throw a party in Adams Morgan on the weekend, but it's not the kind of crowds you'd expect out for underground music.

beeps-a-palooza
Jan 2, 2009

by T. Finn


haha i figured that. i dont normally play in dc, so this should be fun nonetheless

Maguro
Apr 24, 2006

Why is the sun always bullying me?

beeps-a-palooza posted:

im playing out in dc this week and want to bring out some future bass/2stepish tunes.

Are there any compilation albums that I should cop(aside from soul jazz future bass)? Maybe some decent ep's I should pick up?

this truancy comp is awesome, been playing some of these tunes out quite a bit:

http://truantsblog.com/?page_id=10536

28 Gun Bad Boy
Nov 5, 2009

Never been to Belgium

beeps-a-palooza posted:

im playing out in dc this week and want to bring out some future bass/2stepish tunes.

Are there any compilation albums that I should cop(aside from soul jazz future bass)? Maybe some decent ep's I should pick up?

What about the recent SBTRKT album and that Hessle Audio thing, 116 & Rising (or did you pick that up already? I can't remember), some things on both those that's bound to set even the most Frat brothers and mosher-full of parties alight, which is what I'm going to guess this 'Adam Morgans' club is like?(bear in mind I base my American university/college/school/life experiences solely on a lifetime of watching movies like Animal House, PCU and Revenge Of The Nerds. )

GET MONEY
Sep 7, 2003



Feeling this new Mya edit by Brenmar: http://soundcloud.com/fadermedia/mya-wet-brenmar-edit but I always like what he does with R&B samples. The joint he has on that truancy comp is nice too.

edit:

28 Gun Bad Boy posted:

You now there is that other thread going on (you know what one I mean) it reminded me I managed to catch Karnage's Rinse set on Sunday there, with the last hour or so pure grime. loving cracking set that ya'll should get on. Download it off the Rinse podcast site. Worth it just for the lyric "On the iPad/Watching porn"

Nice mix..hadn't heard this Ruff Sqwad track for time.

GET MONEY fucked around with this message at Jul 15, 2011 around 05:40

SUBFRIES
Apr 10, 2008



beeps-a-palooza posted:

haha i figured that. i dont normally play in dc, so this should be fun nonetheless

It won't be like playing most DC spots.

I'm opening at U Street Music Hall next week, on Saturday July 23rd. Planning to play a lot of 125-ish stuff to start and then push to about 135 BPM depending on the crowd and how long I get to play. Planning to play a bit of Julio Bashmore, some Doc Daneeka stuff, things off the recent Hackman, Synkro, SBTRKT, George FitzGerald and Jam City releases.

28 Gun Bad Boy posted:

What about the recent SBTRKT album and that Hessle Audio thing, 116 & Rising (or did you pick that up already? I can't remember), some things on both those that's bound to set even the most Frat brothers and mosher-full of parties alight, which is what I'm going to guess this 'Adam Morgans' club is like?(bear in mind I base my American university/college/school/life experiences solely on a lifetime of watching movies like Animal House, PCU and Revenge Of The Nerds. )

Good suggestions. Adams Morgan is a neighborhood in NW Washington, DC. It has a four block strip that is lined with bars and small clubs, and Thursdays through Saturdays it is a mixed drinking crowd, but there are definitely problems. Just last week video surfaced on line of a cop fist fighting with a guy in the street. There are a few good bars there, I'm just older, don't like the huge crowds and rowdiness on the weekends. You can also buy jumbo slices of pizza there, until about 4AM:



Klute loves to get jumbo slice when he plays gigs here.

beeps-a-palooza
Jan 2, 2009

by T. Finn


SUBFRIES posted:

It won't be like playing most DC spots.

I'm opening at U Street Music Hall next week, on Saturday July 23rd. Planning to play a lot of 125-ish stuff to start and then push to about 135 BPM depending on the crowd and how long I get to play. Planning to play a bit of Julio Bashmore, some Doc Daneeka stuff, things off the recent Hackman, Synkro, SBTRKT, George FitzGerald and Jam City releases.


Good suggestions. Adams Morgan is a neighborhood in NW Washington, DC. It has a four block strip that is lined with bars and small clubs, and Thursdays through Saturdays it is a mixed drinking crowd, but there are definitely problems. Just last week video surfaced on line of a cop fist fighting with a guy in the street. There are a few good bars there, I'm just older, don't like the huge crowds and rowdiness on the weekends. You can also buy jumbo slices of pizza there, until about 4AM:



Klute loves to get jumbo slice when he plays gigs here.

ive heard u-street's sound is amazing, can you vouch for that?

SUBFRIES
Apr 10, 2008



beeps-a-palooza posted:

ive heard u-street's sound is amazing, can you vouch for that?

Easily, but I am biased. It is a treat to play on that system, and I don't want to take gigs anywhere else in the area.

Weaponized Cum
Aug 31, 2004


This post brought to you by the finest Miami cocaine money can buy ----->


Apparently Scuba is gonna be in the US soon by what a promoter friend just told me... so listen to this and get hyped up, because I am.

http://soundcloud.com/hotflush/scub...-mix-live-sonar

Lifeglug
Oct 23, 2005




Rinse.fm are busy violating the gently caress out of their license while streaming live from Lovebox at the Rinse/FWD stage right now.

hamza
Mar 3, 2007


Scuba was just in the US! I saw him in Seattle about a month ago.

hamza fucked around with this message at Jul 15, 2011 around 17:35

Mike_V
Jul 31, 2004

Let's* go Blackhawks! The Blues and Red Wings suck.

The Rinse audio is way too quiet for me to continue listening.

Lifeglug
Oct 23, 2005




Mike_V posted:

The Rinse audio is way too quiet for me to continue listening.

It was decent at first then they had a bunch of technical issues, it was dead air except for ads for like 20 minutes at least.

Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.


Mike_V posted:

The Rinse audio is way too quiet for me to continue listening.

Huh? Normally the stream is so loud that I have to set my system volume to like 5/100, this was just fine when I tuned in for a min.

qwako
Sep 11, 2009


Saturday night huge lineup at brixton jamm

Deep Medi: Silkie B2B Quest and Cyrus b2b Tunnidge
Channel One with Mikey Dread and Ras Kayleb
Butterz: Elijah & Skilliam

zegadeth
May 14, 2006
Double life!!

Anyone else pumped that finally the Wheel+Deal album is dropping?
Preorders
http://www.redeyerecords.co.uk/asp/...ct.asp?id=21636
http://www.redeyerecords.co.uk/asp/...ct.asp?id=21638


The track im most excited about is benton-videodrome.Benton is killing it atm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYMjen8SQ9E

SkellingTon Loc
Oct 24, 2005

I was feelin' horny and ornery hornery

Been giving Dedication a few more listens. Thought it was kinda boring at first, but it's growing on me.

Jeseuss
Aug 28, 2007


What do you guys think of Disclosure? Too James Blake-esque?
http://soundcloud.com/disclosuremus...e-that-you-know

28 Gun Bad Boy
Nov 5, 2009

Never been to Belgium

zegadeth posted:

Anyone else pumped that finally the Wheel+Deal album is dropping?
Preorders
http://www.redeyerecords.co.uk/asp/...ct.asp?id=21636
http://www.redeyerecords.co.uk/asp/...ct.asp?id=21638


The track im most excited about is benton-videodrome.Benton is killing it atm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYMjen8SQ9E

It's the Lemon D track that's interesting me. A Drum & Bass producer actually making what sounds like some good Dubstep/garage? World is a changing. Of course given the fact I've only heard brief samples it could actually be utter shite.

N-Type is really great though, fantastic and ultra funny guy. I remember sitting behind him and Hatcha in the bus ride back from Dubcamp, all of us tired, half asleep and hungover as gently caress. Cue N-Type looking out the window and seeing one of them big highland cows. For the life of me I've been sat here for the past 5 minutes trying to remember what he said, but he had the entire bus completely in stitches at his amazement at this cow and what he said about it.

Not to mention the obvious hilarity when we saw a shop in Dumfries called "Polski Smak". It just writes itself.

Real Edit: Remembering Dubcamp brought back memories of the aftermath thread on DSF. As well as making me remember the hot tub that was there, as well as the slightly uh... bigger girl who was in there most of the night with more than one boy.

Some poster off DSF posted:

Quote of the night on her part, Me "Will you let me go up your arse, me mate's got first dabs on your minge" "Nah, I'll just suck you off.. it's still hurting from the other night"


Ah memories!

Jeseuss posted:

What do you guys think of Disclosure? Too James Blake-esque?
http://soundcloud.com/disclosuremus...e-that-you-know

I think so sadly. There's a few tracks on his Soundcloud that aren't half bad, but looking at his actual releases, none of the ones I like have been released. And what has been released, oh man, 7 inches on hip indie labels doesn't exactly help stop James Blake comparisons at all. It's pretty much perfectly packaged in an attempt to land a major deal like JB. Cynical? Me? Never?

Fake edit: Actually I lie, the song Carnival I like was an A-side - oops! Well I still hold my ground, honestly 7 inches. Why a 7"? think the reggae boys even use that much anymore. It's not for the dance crowd anyway, it's for the folks who don't mind paying 5.99 for a 7". Not that I mind 7s, but it's a message you send though, right?

Actually I'll float this out now, these kind of faux-garage beats are kind of getting a bit much for me now that they seem to be everywhere(not neccessary meaning this Disclosure stuff mind you, but trawl through Soundcloud, through some of the 'Future garage' or 'Post-Dubstep' stuff and you'll find what I mean). I say faux-garage as you can kinda tell that's what it's supposed to be because of how the drumbeat has been done, but it's like it's made by people who don't actually know anything about garage, or haven't really ever listened to it. Like they only know garage filtered through a Burial album. It's skippy and stuttery, but like Duke Ellington said it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. And I'm not seeing enough swing in it all. The swing brings the sex and the energy, and I don't know, I don't really get much of either from these kind of tunes, whatever they're calling them nowadays.

28 Gun Bad Boy fucked around with this message at Jul 17, 2011 around 00:24

Conduit for Sale!
Apr 17, 2007



Does Skream have anything more like Tortured Soul or Midnight Request Line? I like his self-titled album alright, but those first two tracks are killers and pretty dissimilar from the rest of the album.

28 Gun Bad Boy
Nov 5, 2009

Never been to Belgium

Conduit for Sale! posted:

Does Skream have anything more like Tortured Soul or Midnight Request Line? I like his self-titled album alright, but those first two tracks are killers and pretty dissimilar from the rest of the album.

You might want to try the stuff on his first two Skreamism double packs. Might be what you're after, though I guess a lot of the stuff on them is similar to whats on the album.

beeps-a-palooza
Jan 2, 2009

by T. Finn


SUBFRIES posted:

Good luck. No idea who is trying to throw a party in Adams Morgan on the weekend, but it's not the kind of crowds you'd expect out for underground music.

at the beginnig of my set i dropped goat stare and people were visably scared.

i love the underground

Police Academy 6
Jul 12, 2006


beeps-a-palooza posted:

at the beginnig of my set i dropped goat stare and people were visably scared.

i love the underground

i'm actually moving to washington in a couple months; what can people tell me about the scene there?

SUBFRIES
Apr 10, 2008



Police Academy 6 posted:

i'm actually moving to washington in a couple months; what can people tell me about the scene there?

There is a good bit of stuff going on nowadays, appeals to a wide range of tastes IMO, but a lot of stuff on weeknights. Here's a Washington, DC scene report / breakdown (can PM me if you want/need more details):
  • Eighty Eight Music - They tend to book shows that feature UK bass/future bass (past bookings: FaltyDL, Ramadanman, Mosca), deeper dubstep (past: Headhunter, XI), a lot of the locals that favor those two styles (I play for them occasionally), and then the book shows that are heavy on the techno and tech house, usually at venues like The Loft:Warehouse, [http://www.ustreetmusichall.com]U Street Music Hall[/url]. They also do a monthly day party at Yards Park, near the National's stadium, and that's usually house and downtempo. They will occasionally book drum'n'bass shows too, similar feel to the bass shows, e.g. the more forward thinking or deep styles. Also they do an annual festival in late March / early April called Forward Fest.


  • Steez Promo - These guys are the heavyweight promoters, both in the size of the shows they do, and the styles they focus on. They do a lot of events in DC and Baltimore, they get the younger crowds out, and they use a lot of different venues, usually bigger spaces though.


  • 3D Promotions - Smaller than Steez, but similar crowds, but their bookings are a little different, I guess a bit broader. A lot of drum'n'bass and dubstep shows (recent shows: Goth Trad, Distance, Truth, Jakes, 6Blocc, Starkey, Joe Nice, SPL, Antiserum), they tend to do Wednesdays at a venue called Ultrabar, and trying some other venues on the weekend. Shows are often one or two headliners and a lot of locals.


  • U Street Music Hall - Incredible sound system, this is a subterranean club on U Street co-owned by Tittsworth, Will Eastman, the ESL guys, fits about 400~500 people. They work with a lot of different promotion groups (88 and Steez do regular events there), and they have monthly residencies that come through (Trouble & Bass, Flashing Lights, Slow Roast Records, Fools Gold Records, Plant Music, etc., plus Nadastrom have a residency night). They also book a lot of their own shows, with a lot of variety. Friday nights are strictly house as well, and not electro-house.


  • Buzzlife - This is the forum where a lot of local shows are promoted, a lot of smaller operations or one-offs listed here. They also used to throw Buzz, Sting and Cubik, which were the main weeklies in DC from 1995 until about 2007.

If you just want general DC knowledge/information, check out this thread:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=3032543

SUBFRIES fucked around with this message at Jul 17, 2011 around 14:12

TEE HEE
Nov 4, 2009


Jeseuss posted:

What do you guys think of Disclosure? Too James Blake-esque?
http://soundcloud.com/disclosuremus...e-that-you-know

find it painfully boring honestly

zegadeth
May 14, 2006
Double life!!

Conduit for Sale! posted:

Does Skream have anything more like Tortured Soul or Midnight Request Line? I like his self-titled album alright, but those first two tracks are killers and pretty dissimilar from the rest of the album.


Skream - 2-D

Im currently hooked on this tune.I remember hearing it for the first time in his 07' essential mix,still sounds fresh as gently caress.

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Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.


Skream's Watch the Ride mix is loving bonkers.

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