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Lamont Cranston posted:
dude there's no way your posting is folding space haveblue posted:what is this from dune
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2011 15:59 |
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2024 15:01 |
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above all else i would like a big hug from leonard nimoy. i bet he gives the best old man hugs.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2011 00:26 |
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Kirk posted:barclay owns because he's basically a nerd transplanted from the 20th century and shoved into the 24th he's not just the viewer, he's one of the executive producers. that's right. michael piller, who came on board TNG in season 3, said in an interview that when he came up with barclay he wasn't thinking about the fans at all; he was thinking about himself and how awkward he thought he was. contrast with gene roddenberry who, while senile in his elder years and having a lot of really bad ideas, pulled a hell of a lot of tail
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2011 22:33 |
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Amethyst posted:I love David Lynch and Dune but that movie was bad. someone, Lynch or one of the studio execs, was afraid of having the climactic finish of the movie turn into a huge kung-fu action set piece. so they decided to go with a huge ray-gun action set piece instead. keep in mind they were making this in the early 80s and the Star Wars perception of "holy poo poo special effects loving sell movies!!" was still pretty strong. it also massively simplifies the reason for the emperor getting involved. "the atreides are making a new weapon and they might get too powerful. we need to take them out before that happens." i can understand people not liking it. i think it's fun, but that's just me.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2011 22:41 |
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Kirk posted:watch the first few eps of game of thrones one of the ladies that shows up towards the end of the season has been in pornography
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2011 23:10 |
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johndis posted:man i always forgeta bout underwater sci fihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNLtPLFECNw heh, thought you were gonna post a seaQuest video holy god all the seaquest videos on youtube are garbage quality You Am I posted:she was supposedly found naked and crying in a hallway of a NY hotel just recently.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2011 07:24 |
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axolotl farmer posted:Karen Gillan is hot as hell and great in every way in Doctor Who but... rose is basically just a smarter luann (from king of the hill)
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2011 15:04 |
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Action Jacktion posted:That was the one with the "comedy" subplot about one group of aliens trying to eat another, and in the end it's implied they've killed one and are trying to cook it, and the Enterprise crew simply roll their eyes and act annoyed. it's probably like that scene in Mad Men where the guys are fretting about how a dude managed to get maimed by a riding lawn mower in an office building, and the executive blows it off with "don't worry about it. somewhere in this business, this has happened before." it's starfleet, this poo poo happens all the time. hell, it was still a smoother mission than Kirk's diplomatic cruise in Journey to Babel; in that episode, the captain got stabbed by a spy, the first officer had to go under for an experimental blood transfusion to save his dad, who himself was implicated in the murder of another ambassador, and the orions sent a riced-up warship to try and destroy the enterprise, and almost succeeded.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2011 17:53 |
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haveblue posted:why has nobody mentioned clarke yet i remember trying to read rama 2 several years ago and feeling put off by it shortly into it. i tried again last year and after awhile managed to get sucked in b/c i really wanted to see how things played out. that said, i wouldn't recommend the Rama sequels either, big chunks of them feel like a big couch session for Gentry Lee. on the other hand, 2010 loving owns owns owns. i remember when i first read it i just sorta found myself in the book totally visualizing the whole thing, then i 'woke up' like three hours later. totally loving awesome. 2061 and 3001 veer off course though; the former is sort of weird, like Clarke really didn't know what to do with the book beyond hitting a couple of key points, and the latter is pretty severely self-indulgent (at least in comparison to the rest of the series)
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2011 04:42 |
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one of the problems I have with later Star Trek is the issue of writers/producers basically going "we've got this idea that wouldn't actually work for production/logic/continuity reasons, but we're just going to bullshit our way through it because we really want to do it and we're too lazy to actually rewrite anything." "we need the warp drive to be a ticking time bomb" "well, there's a whole lot of effort the Federation put into designing it so it won't do that." "well it just is. ejection system? oh that failed. off switch? yeah that failed too. BOOM! see, that was simple. this is why you nerds aren't writers like us." "we have this plot which is p. much just a war story but we need something to make it 'trek', ideas?" "some bullshit about 'subspace mines' they can poke around at with tricorders, which eventually helps their bros out" "gj, have the boys down in arts & crafts whip up some technobabble for it. and add some scenes in that 60s bar, i fukken love the 60s" "my episode's bullshit external threat subplot hinges around some gimmick where the ship can't turn at warp speed" "uhhhhhhhh" "gently caress you i'm making this happen *takes a huge poo poo*"
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2011 08:41 |
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haveblue posted:this is why we have no idea how the galactica's hyperdrive works yeah but the writers have themselves to blame for that one because they would invent bullshit technobabble resolutions to those earlier episodes' problems in the first place also that last example i gave is kind of the opposite problem you described. we saw star trek ships turning at warp speed before, no explanation given about how or why it works, then for some (voyager, poo poo) episode they decided to do some retcon technoexpository bullshit about how "nope you can't actually do that because of [tech]" FMguru posted:tng script drafts literally had sections that just said "[technobabble]" in them. there was a guy who'd fill it "phase-adaptive plasma channel" and "multi-mode inflection sort algorithm" later on. i can only imagine that by voyager, the scripts were basically "a [tech] thing happens the crew uses [tech] to [tech] the [tech] and [tech] seven and/or holodoc uses [tech] to explore humanity the end ([tech])"
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2011 15:31 |
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quote:i have this, completely owns
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2011 19:19 |
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coaxmetal posted:Speaking of Dune, I forgot he was rejected by over 20 publishers before some tiny one took it. Kind of crazy. It was Chilton. As in, the DIY car repair manual publisher. That's what's kind of crazy about it.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2011 22:55 |
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Lamont Cranston posted:own this, this owns my old man gave me his first edition copy of it. definitely owns.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2011 00:41 |
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qirex posted:The one that came in the vinyl folder and had the "letters" printed separately? that's the one
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2011 08:24 |
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Amethyst posted:everyone post how many wheel of time books they made it through. holy poo poo dude i barely made it through the first one "congratulations, you're the kwisatz haderach" brilliant ending. fives all around. i hear the wot fans are pretty crazy too.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2011 06:11 |
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Kirk posted:ahaha i just looked it up, wot still isn't done are you kidding me. i thought that guy they brought in to pick up where jordan left off was supposed to be quick about that poo poo that's what he thought too, the problem is he went in with the objective of closing all the plot threads that Jordan left open so the new guy just kept writing... and writing... and writing... he got to about 400,000 words and realized he was maybe halfway done, and they had to split it into a trilogy because even robert jordan wouldn't have been able to get an 800,000+ word book published, his biggest book ever was just under 400K words some other book wordcounts for comparison: 2001 A Space Odyssey: 61,487 Dune: 185,723 Battlefield Earth: 387,953 The whole Lord of the Rings trilogy: ~454,000 War and Peace: "over 560,000" Atlas Shrugged: ~645,000 The Bible: ~775,000 haveblue posted:9 yeah i'm pretty sure 350K+ words to describe a couple of days is the definition of grinding to a halt
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2011 18:45 |
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and even if they somehow had convinced the publisher to try printing a book that couldn't be issued as a single paperback, there's no way the bookstores would have stood for it. i guess there's already something of a minor revolt against huge fantasy books taking up a lot of shelf space
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2011 18:48 |
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"zombie apocalypse" trash is just survivalist poo poo for nerds it's a fun, childish kind of disaster for them to think about because: - it won't actually ever happen - the zombies are dehumanized, so there's no guilt or trauma about the thought of having to kill them to survive - the zombies lack human intelligence, meaning they won't be shooting back at you with guns or grenades - the zombies typically have magical properties that make melee weapons (swords) much more useful than they would be against humans - unlike a nuclear war, there will be no radioactive fallout to inflict radiation poisoning or contaminate food and water supplies - unlike a nuclear war, massive earthquake, or meteor strike, their house/"zombie survival outpost whatever" won't be randomly struck down despite their best preparations - unlike any other disaster, they won't be competing with everyone else in the city for basic necessities like food and medicine, because most of them will be dead/undead that don't consume these things and can be killed without conscience, and most homes and businesses can be freely looted because the owners will be dead/undead and of course the big one: - it won't actually ever happen
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2011 16:10 |
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CHARONS BOAT RIDER posted:fuckin' love that gif
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2011 06:22 |
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lost: hey guys, we don't even need to try to write consistent good stories any more! we can just throw audiences a random stream of poo poo and they'll eat it all up just the same as long as they like the characters!
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2011 14:45 |
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haveblue posted:best part of both endings were the spluttering "SPIRITUALITY??? IN MY SCIENCE FICTION??????" nerd rants best part of the bsg ending for me was some nerd on the internet going "well, who says it has to be god did it? maybe an inscrutable super-AI did it!" "oh okay. so now it's Farmer Crack-Ass fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jul 20, 2011 |
# ¿ Jul 20, 2011 17:51 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:lost: hey guys, we don't even need to try to write consistent good stories any more! we can just throw audiences a random stream of poo poo and they'll eat it all up just the same as long as they like the characters! internet fans: yeah! i loving loved it! that means literally anyone who criticizes a writing decision or points out a plot hole must have asperger's syndrome!
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2011 17:59 |
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Trig Discipline posted:yup lol there was an interview with one of the bsg writers who said one day during season 4 ron moore had a mini-meltdown and basically said "gently caress it, it's just all about the characters anyway, we can do anything we want" welcome to the post-plot media
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2011 19:33 |
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graph posted:me too
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2011 22:22 |
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did anyone ever watch the earthworm jim cartoon as a kid? that show fuckin owned.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2011 08:10 |
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axolotl farmer posted:I watched it in my 20s and it still owned. It never hurts to help!
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2011 15:57 |
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Sneaking Mission posted:still lovin this cover. wish i could be like that spaceman. i wish i could be with him a world ... built upon dope and vice holy poo poo we need to fuckin' jump-start the manned spaceflight program, right away
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2011 22:28 |
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Brace posted:I think I might go out drinking, except not actually, I'll go out pretending like I'm gonna drink, get really wasted and come home and then there, now it's a good plan
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2011 23:36 |
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you guys might enjoy this: Painting the Enterprisequote:My artwork has always been 'dimensional'---trying to fool the eye on a two-dimensional surface...now I was confronted with the real thing and it was a very expensive, one-off, custom-built Real Thing worth 350 grand that was the centerpiece of the whole movie in the bargain. So it was really worth millions.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2011 00:51 |
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hw2 owned
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2011 07:30 |
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i read starship troopers several years ago and thought 'ehhh, i guess its an okay pulpy book. dunno why internet nerds get so outraged about the movie though.*' then i read 'the moon is a harsh mistress' last year and was all 'ehhh, it's kind of lolbertarian and he's bad with women, but it's a fun pulpy look at how a lunar colony could rebel. okay.' then i read 'stranger in a strange land' and thought 'shiiiiiit, this guy is messed up and way too full of himself.' so yeah i'm glad i read some heinlein but i think i'm done with him. one of my friends gave me one of those honor harrington books, it was pretty bad. like the dude writes a good space battle but his fiction politics are so grossly and totally unsubtle, and the title character is embarrassingly perfect (except for allegedly not being very pretty, except still attractive to someone with good taste, and of course she's a total babe on the cover) and is so incredibly super-special that she gets to bend the rules and have a cat that goes with her on her military starship command worth like a billion spacedollars or whatever. i simultaneously was sad and glad that i had not read the book when i was twelve, because on the one hand i would have completely ate it up at that age, but on the other hand i would have been really embarrassed in retrospect for getting into such a childish series. (* this is false, i actually know exactly why internet nerds get huffy about it: because they didn't get to see little mini-battlemechs jumping around and hurling mini-nukes all over the drat place or they have terrible ideas about politics) Kirk posted:call me when someone drops off that vhs series of the original movies where you line em up and its the enterprise man i remember that, that was boss
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2011 05:40 |
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wait that image isn't a photoshop? someone literally wrote and had published a book titled "the color of her PANTIES"???
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2011 04:41 |
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FEMA summer camp posted:hey what about peter f. hamilton i read fallen dragon once and it seemed really severely self-indulgent
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2011 05:52 |
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FEMA summer camp posted:how'd'ya figgger? one of the main characters, as a (fat, nerd) teenager, falls in love with a superhot teenage girl, has a lot of hot sex and transforms into a confident and fit young man (while still being brilliant), fucks it up (kinda), then goes on to have an enormously successful career as a nigh-impervious supersoldier mercenary, then at the end of the book gets to go back in time and have a do-over where he lives happily ever after with the girl he loved also somehow it's the colony founded by CALIFORNIANS who (heh of course) become the ultra-youth-obsessed genetically engineered animal people who are supremely interconnected with their environment (although admittedly it was fun reading them kicking the poo poo out of the rear end in a top hat mercenaries... hey there's that indulgence again!)
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2011 18:16 |
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oh i forgot, he also kind of has a smug "heh, reality kicked in, interstellar travel isn't actually profitable at all" attitude about macro-level technology, but he has no problem with just furiously masturbating over how loving awesome nanotechnology is.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2011 20:59 |
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it was FTL and it wasn't just like "oh we established a colony, then it went to poo poo when we realized we couldn't make money off it", it was "we somehow blew the money to establish and heavily develop a bunch of colonies before figuring out that we weren't going to make much money off this" which then turned into "welp might as well just start literally plundering and looting the colonies every few years, gotta turn a profit somehow (b/c most of the colonies were corporate-founded iirc)"
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2011 21:33 |
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which on further thought doesn't make a huge amount of sense; i mean if you're going to go the whole "bean counters rule the world" thing, someone should have immediately pointed out that you don't need to blow a trillion dollars to establish a settlement light-years away, you could just build orbital O'Neill stations and excavated lunar bases for a fraction of the cost, and use robots to mine the solar system's asteroids it's been awhile since i read the book though, maybe there's something i'm forgetting. the nanowank and the teenaged sex and the happy ending are still enough to shove the book solidly into "severely self-indulgent" in my opinion.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2011 21:37 |
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rotor posted:im mostly just mad that he's using RR as his middle initials drat i never even realized that
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2011 23:50 |
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Trig Discipline posted:
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2011 23:50 |