In It For The Tank posted:

I only started reading ASOIAF in 2012, and this made me feel super loving old. I feel sorry for everyone who has been waiting even longer than me.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

It’s ridiculous fun reading the comments on Reddit that are full of variations of “I had just met my new girlfriend. We’re now married and have a kid in the 3rd grade.”

nine-gear crow posted:

Is it still that dude's bare rear end on a block of ice?

e: I misremembered it, it's her bare icy rear end.

In It For The Tank posted:

I only started reading ASOIAF in 2012, and this made me feel super loving old. I feel sorry for everyone who has been waiting even longer than me.

Deptfordx posted:

You know those "Get 5 books for (x units of your local currency) at a super cheap rate, then just order 1 book a month thereafter" subscriptions that used to be a thing.

I got, and read the first Game of Thrones book in one of those offers.

In 1997.

Deptfordx posted:

You know those "Get 5 books for (x units of your local currency) at a super cheap rate, then just order 1 book a month thereafter" subscriptions that used to be a thing.

I got, and read the first Game of Thrones book in one of those offers.

In 1997.

Kellanved posted:

Late 2005 here. Affc just got released. MEANWHILE ON THE WALL

Solice Kirsk posted:

I'm going to break into GRRM's office, relearn how to use DOS, download the five sentences for Winds that he has completed, and PM all of you spoilers.

Whizzing Wizard posted:

Say hypothetically that the estate of Grumm cobbles together something from his notes when he dies and sells it for money.

Where would that leave the story? Dany still sharting in Essos and maybe the end of Stannis I guess, the stuff from the later seasons slip from memory as I try to recall it.

mind the walrus posted:

The winds of the winter.

Those wintery winds that came to Westeros.

The winds, those being of winter of course.

Those winds had come to Westeros.

Yes those winds, those winter winds.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Whizzing Wizard posted:

Say hypothetically that the estate of Grumm cobbles together something from his notes when he dies and sells it for money.

Where would that leave the story? Dany still sharting in Essos and maybe the end of Stannis I guess, the stuff from the later seasons slip from memory as I try to recall it.

pseudanonymous posted:

It's a good thing Gurm doesn't have kids or there's gonna be 25 books about the adventures of Young Griff and a detailed backstory about the battle of the bells in 2 encyclopedic volumes.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

He said the next half of the story would be out in one year. I won’t pretend I even knew ASOIAF existed at the time thank god for that but I’ll always love that.

Hasselblad posted:

IIRC what he actually said was that the book was done but was too large, so it would have to be released as 2 books separately. And only then did we realize he never wrote any of the other characters yet.

GRRRM posted:

MEANWHILE, BACK ON THE WALL . . .

Hey, wait a minute!" some of you may be saying about now. "Wait a minute, wait a minute! Where's Dany and the dragons? Where's Tyrion? We hardly saw Jon Snow. That can't be all of it. . . ."

Well, no. There's more to come. Another book as big as this one.

I did not forget to write about the other characters. Far from it. I wrote lots about them. Pages and pages and pages. Chapters and more chapters. I was still writing when it dawned on me that the book had become too big to publish in a single volume . . . and I wasn't close to finished yet. To tell all of the story that I wanted to tell, I was going to have to cut the book in two.

The simplest way to do that would have been to take what I had, chop it in half around the middle, and end with "To Be Continued ." The more I thought about that, however, the more I felt that the readers would be better served by a book that told all the story for half the characters, rather than half the story for all the characters. So that's the route I chose to take.

Tyrion, Jon, Dany, Stannis and Melisandre, Davos Seaworth, and all the rest of the characters you love or love to hate will be along next year (I devoutly hope) in A Dance with Dragons, which will focus on events along the Wall and across the sea, just as the present book focused on King's Landing.

ZeeBoi posted:

Here's the thing: A Dance with Dragons finally comes out, everyone devours that book within a day, and then... you wait another decade for The Winds of Winter.

some bust on that guy posted:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3104213&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=482#post382133813

Guy A. Person posted:

Yeah, the whole "Meanwhile, at the Wall..." thing basically claimed that he wrote so much that he realized it would never fit into a single book, so at a certain point he decided to just split the POVs, but don't worry because he already had written like an entire half of another book, so he could totally get it done in the next year or so.

Then 5 years later he released Dance and was all "well I couldn't just leave you hanging on what happened with Arya's cliffhanger for 10 whole years!"...which he had already done with Tyrion, Jon and Dany by the time he finally released Dance...and which now it's been another 10 full years since Jon's even bigger cliffhanger lmao

Edit: here is the text for those that don't have their copy of AFFC handy:

Irish Revenge, Sep 26, 2008 posted:

I don't understand what the hell this guy is doing. I have not read a Feast for Crows yet. because I was told in this thread it would probably be better to wait until ADWD is out and read them back to back, and AFFC is too slow. So for two years now I've been waiting for this loving book to come out. Once every couple months I check his blog to see if there's an update. And every time I'm disappointed to see that he still hasn't finished, yet he's had time to gently caress around with the dozens of "side" projects he has going on and all the other ridiculous poo poo. A TV show, I can understand. Some conventions, sure. But what is with the dozens of other projects? How about not spending time writing comic books and work on the drat book?

I know a lot of these side projects are developed by other people and he's not spending hours a day on, but why doesn't this guy go to an island in the Caribbean for a month and get some loving work cranked out on ADWD?! YOU ARE GOING TO DIE SOON. I don't think there is any way he will finish all seven books and the last one will be some poo poo written by someone else.


I'm sure this has been discussed ad nauseum but I just had to vent a bit.

Wheee, Feb 5, 2009 posted:

Killroy posted:

He's got all the money he'll ever need, he's got Paris, and he's got Wildcards. I really don't think he gives as hit about A Song of Ice and Fire anymore.

Know where that money came from?

Us.

Book One of A Song of Ice and Fire. Would you have purchased it if you knew the series would hit a dead end and never be finished? Not likely. Legally he owes us nothing but really, he's buying his pizzas and trips to Italy on a broken loving promise.

We had us an informal contract and it appears that he's decided not to honour his end of things. It doesn't make him a criminal but it does make him a oval office.

EVGA Longoria, Sep 23, 2008 posted:

Bean0r posted:

Maybe you should be mad at his publisher then

Is there any actual indication that he has not done any work on the book and just goofs off all day or are people just inferring that because he doesn't update his fans constantly about his progress?

Is there any indication he HAS done anything? He's stopped mentioning the book, is recycling the same preview chapters and then talks about the intense cycles of food, football and vacation he goes on. If he is writing, it's not more than a couple of hours a week. He's missed how many deadlines at this point? He has a half written book, even at a chapter a month he should be done with it by now.

Are we being a little unfair? Maybe. Maybe he is writing and is just not mentioning it. But there's no indication he is, he doesn't even say so in his rant about off topic comments that he's working on it - just that people are reminding him it's late. That's pretty much the most update we have on his books in the past few months - that he knows it's late.

Basically, gently caress George R R Martin.

FuriousxGeorge, July 14, 2010 posted:

He gets no more money from me, I'm pirating the gently caress out of Dance whenever whoever they pay to write it after he dies finishes it.

I'll seed the audiobook forever on every tracker I can find and mail out copies like AOL CDs.


I mean holy poo poo, he is trolling his audience...admitting it and laughing about it...and hiding behind moderated/censored comments so no one can even tell him off...this is how he spends his time instead of writing. I guess he gets some sick sense of satisfaction in taking out his frustrations about his eminent failure to actually finish the only redeeming piece of work he has ever done in his life on his readers. If only we had left him in his pit of failure instead of buying his books no one would ever expect him to actually see the work to to the end. He could have died an anonymous failure, but now the whole world will know for all time that he could not do his job while competent writers, artists, and actors at HBO will steal his glory leaving him only a footnote.

I hope an oarfish crawls up your rear end and eats your intestines.

Chair Huxtable, Jul 14, 2010 posted:

I hate him so much right now. Every time he says something like that I think "yup, it's Wild Cards." But then this tiny little flash of hope wells up in me and I read the post. Then I scream incoherently with rage.

I hope you get raped by a loving llama you fat tub of worthless lard.

Chair Huxable, Jun 27, 2010 posted:

Take those chapters and shove them up your rear end, GRRM. Seriously, does he think we'll all fall down and fellate him because he moved some chapters into the next book? Chapters that weren't even planned for the book he swore was half done five years ago? Go gently caress a lemoncake you fat piece of poo poo.