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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Like yeah, he's gross and creepy but that's just a creepy weirdo, not a sexpest. Besides, there's more than enough stuff in his works to comfortably say he's got some serious issues around women, sexuality, and especially race. ACOUP's excellent series of articles on how the Dothraki are absolutely nothing like the historical peoples Martin claims they are based on but everything like racist depictions of those people is pretty much something that always comes to mind. 20 years later and it still feels like we've only just really gotten out from under that shadow, and the Absolute Fucker still bitched about it hard enough to make the Hugo Awards revolve around it.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The best racist outrage over casting was for the little girl in the first Hunger Games movie because it’s explicitly said in the book that she’s black but lost of people read over it and pictured her as some perfect little white girl. This happens with anime and manga constantly too. There’s no shortage of people who think Naruto (or any blonde character in anything else) is white.
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May 9, 2021 19:57
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I really love how Ursula K. Le Guin purposely subverted the trope of the magical white fantasy hero in A Wizard of Earthsea in part by waiting until like a quarter of the way into the book to casually mention that the protagonist (and just about everyone in the story) all have various shades of dark skin - at which point you've already identified with the character and it really doesn't matter. I feel like she pulled a similar kind of trick in The Left Hand of Darkness, which also had a dark-skinned protagonist - except in that book we are utterly obliged by necessity to identify with and relate to Genly Ai, because he's the only human and gendered character, so his skin color is almost amusingly irrelevant and inconsequential in the face of far more profound differences.
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May 9, 2021 20:11
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Yeah, I remember loving that about Earthsea. Just a world with different shades of brown people while the white people were like, the ignorant violent barbarians on the fringe of the world. Although one of them does become the POV of the second and fourth books.
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May 9, 2021 20:24
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Evil Fluffy posted:This happens with anime and manga constantly too. There’s no shortage of people who think Naruto (or any blonde character in anything else) is white.
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mind the walrus posted:One of the most dangerous and disingenuous things we all did back in the 90s and 00s was give this poo poo a pass because "it's a subversion." We all got trained way too hard on the mainstreaming of irony and deconstruction and "end of history" millennium hyping to realize that all we were doing was excusing a dinosaur's worst tendencies. GRRM was just preparing us for the books not being finished. We expect a writer to complete their series, he is subverting that. It’s just part of his style.
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latinotwink1997 posted:GRRM was just preparing us for the books not being finished. We expect a writer to complete their series, he is subverting that. It’s just part of his style. A surprise release of Winds quickly followed up by Dream would be the most radical subversion of everyone's expectations.
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May 10, 2021 18:23
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Sassy Sasquatch posted:A surprise release of Winds quickly followed up by Dream would be the most radical subversion of everyone's expectations. It’s funny how to this day there are people who still believe that it’s taking so long because he’s writing both at the same time even though he’s come out and said that he isn’t and he will not create some kind of clue scavenger hunt for fans to figure out if he’s done or not. When it’s done he’s going to literally post “it’s done” on his blog. Before that happens literally nothing else he’s doing or seems to be doing actually points to anything.
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May 10, 2021 18:36
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It’s funny how to this day there are people who still believe that it’s taking so long because he’s writing both at the same time even though he’s come out and said that he isn’t and he will not create some kind of clue scavenger hunt for fans to figure out if he’s done or not. When it’s done he’s going to literally post “it’s done” on his blog. Before that happens literally nothing else he’s doing or seems to be doing actually points to anything. Shimrra Jamaane posted:It’s funny how to this day there are people who still believe that it’s taking so long because he’s writing both at the same time even though he’s come out and said that he isn’t and he will not create some kind of clue scavenger hunt for fans to figure out if he’s done or not. When it’s done he’s going to literally post “it’s done” on his blog. Before that happens literally nothing else he’s doing or seems to be doing actually points to anything. I want to believe. *x-files theme music* The Truth is out there (it’s that he’s not writing poo poo).
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Yeah he pretty clearly just wants to lower everyone's expectations so people are really surprised when he runs a three month long ARG culminating in the simultaneous release of both TWOW and ADOS on Christmas day.
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Bobby Digital posted:https://web.archive.org/web/2013060...mush-the-ballad This takes me back. Good times.
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May 12, 2021 01:12
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Woodpile posted:This takes me back. Good times. I really hate that twee cutesy writing style.
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May 12, 2021 02:16
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Must suck to be the #1 fans of a series that will never finish.
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May 12, 2021 03:03
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Ccs posted:Must suck to be the #1 fans of a series that will never finish. I've read so many webcomics that just randomly stopped updating for seemingly no reason. I've been GRRM'd so many times already that when GRRM did it I felt nothing.
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May 12, 2021 06:21
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nine-gear crow posted:I've read so many webcomics that just randomly stopped updating for seemingly no reason. I've been GRRM'd so many times already that when GRRM did it I felt nothing. ngl I'm still a bit salty over thepunchlineismachismo.com randomly ending over a boilerplate God of War 4 joke. That comic deserved way better than it got.
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May 12, 2021 06:27
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RIP Superpoop and MarriedToTheSea
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Here lies The Life of Riley: its antagonist screamed her own name in Hewbrew so loud it died.
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nine-gear crow posted:Here lies The Life of Riley: its antagonist screamed her own name in Hewbrew so loud it died. Man I was thinking about that comic the other day. I remember being so amazed on the pages where they embedded songs that synced up with the panels. I'm so sad that the archives only have like half the pages and no music.
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I will never get over the loss of Lucid TV and how I still can't find a full archive of that comic. It's baffling. So much awful poo poo manages to never get erased forever, but that masterpiece does.
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I know it's been ages since it updated, but I thought the full archive was still on its site ? Also, unless I'm missing a joke, MarriedToTheSea still seems to be updating.
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Drakyn posted:I know it's been ages since it updated, but I thought the full archive was still on its site ?  thanks!
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nine-gear crow posted:I've read so many webcomics that just randomly stopped updating for seemingly no reason. I've been GRRM'd so many times already that when GRRM did it I felt nothing. You just reminded me I haven't checked on Gone With the Blastwave in like 3 years. I bet he updated at least twice in that time (EDIT: wow, more like half a dozen. Guy's been busy). The first dead webcomic I remember was one I read in high school called Hellbound. It was apparently close to ending but the updates just died for it. Pennsylvanian fucked around with this message at 23:55 on May 16, 2021 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:had the middle eastern empire be full of literal inhuman monsters. I'm sorry, you gotta explain this to me. Is this like racist or something?
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TERFherder posted:I'm sorry, you gotta explain this to me. Is this like racist or something? Generally making analogies of real life races/regions/nationalities evil is pretty racially charged. In fact Abercrombie made the Middle Eastern analogues normal except for their leaders who were magic cannibals, but then he also made the leader of the European analogies a mass murderer sociopath with a magic cannibal apprentice. Plus he makes an effort to show the ordinary dudes as being normal people deserving of sympathy and taking a pro-immigration stance.
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Yeah like if we're making comparisons, the Eaters in Abercrombie's series are clearly supposed to stand in for Isis or similar group taking advantage of and terrorizing the civilian population in the countries it occupies. If you're okay with spoilers, BotL did a big examination of Abercrombie's The First Law with the most uncharitable reading imaginable, but I do have to nod my head that it is possible to read the series that way and thus view it as problematic. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3833655&pagenumber=39#post487079474
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Drakyn posted:I know it's been ages since it updated, but I thought the full archive was still on its site ? Oh poo poo, nice. Although that seems to be some revival not the originals? I don't see Dr. Mario or the Owls in my quick skim.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Oh poo poo, nice. Although that seems to be some revival not the originals? I don't see Dr. Mario or the Owls in my quick skim.
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Ccs posted:Yeah like if we're making comparisons, the Eaters in Abercrombie's series are clearly supposed to stand in for Isis or similar group taking advantage of and terrorizing the civilian population in the countries it occupies. The original trilogy was published in 2006 to 2008, and apparently first drafts were written years earlier, and while ISIL was founded before that, it didn't really come into public consciousness until 2011. Warden fucked around with this message at 18:45 on May 18, 2021 |
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CIA backed middle eastern terrorists go back way further than ISIL.
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Just want to remind everyone Iran used to be super cool and then BP decided they needed their oil so the CIA installed the imams and Ayatollah and whatnot because the theocratic regime types were fine with exploitation of the land as long they had power and then the last 60 years of bullshit happened and the Iranian people got hosed over hard by the CIA and BP. See also: Taliban, House of Saud, the ruling families of Kuwait, Dubai, every square inch of Central and South America, etc. If you have anything of value to the US the CIA will install a brutal dictatorship that's open to trade. And we quit hiding it, too. We're just perfectly fine with being the villain now.
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A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:Just want to remind everyone Iran used to be super cool and then BP decided they needed their oil so the CIA installed the imams and Ayatollah and whatnot because the theocratic regime types were fine with exploitation of the land as long they had power and then the last 60 years of bullshit happened and the Iranian people got hosed over hard by the CIA and BP. What? That's not what happened in Iran at all. Quite the opposite really. Edit: Is this a troll I just didn't get?
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Yeah the US installed the Sha in the 1950s not the Ayatollah in the 1970s. So you know last 70 years of bullshit are the US's fault.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Yeah the US installed the Sha in the 1950s not the Ayatollah in the 1970s. So you know last 70 years of bullshit are the US's fault. Yeah, my bad. It's been like 15 years since I read about this. The Iranian CIA puppet was the one ousted by the brutal theocracy.
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a theocracy that is better for most people than the CIA-backed dictatorship, but still worse than what came before both.
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A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:Yeah, my bad. It's been like 15 years since I read about this. A theocracy that was armed by Ronald Reagan through secret and illegal arms sales and whose original revolutionaries helped Reagan's campaign by agreeing to not release their hostages until after the 1980 election. 
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