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scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
the forsaken chapters are insanely good

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scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

kcroy posted:

I thought the execution was tv-cheesy, but the core idea is pretty intense, and sad.

It is also kind weird that GRRM went into this series knowing it would involve time-travel mumbo jumbo.

literally all of martins other work is insane high concept scifi madness

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
they arent bad

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
ya if u read the last two books "waiting for the action to pick up" maybe reevaluate the entire series

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

ZearothK posted:

Remember when after two huge gently caress off books the plot started moving and then you turned the page and it's the bloody appendix laughing at you with all the houses of Westeros.

i usually dont expect more chapters after ones titled "epilogue" but i get where youre coming from.

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Sephyr posted:

A friend of mine is reading the books and,since he knows I read them all, often brings up points from them.

One thing he asked that I hadn't considered: The Karstarks threw their dumb fit because Jaime Lannister killed two of the top guy's sons and was then freed for ransom. This, while his actual son and heir was being held captive by the crown. Shouldn't he be first in line talking of ransom and hostage trades instead of putting a price on the Kingslayer's head and murdering teenage Lannisters? Sounds like that would be wiser than basically forcing your king to execute you.

Thinking back, a lot of the conflict, particularly involving the Starks, feels cheap and forced, while, say, Littlefinger, the Boltons and Euron just have cheat codes enabled. Had it been a Stark to sound a magical horn and tell his bannermen he was bringing dragons into the fight, they'd likely have boiled him alive as a sorcerer. But the tradition-bound reavers will make their guy king over dragons no one has seen (Guess it's the medieval version of campaign talk. "We'll build an ice wall and make the wildness pay for it!") despite him being an exiled loon, just so there can be a new threat to keep the Tyrells from taking charge.

It starts getting contrived when there's always a new threat to keep the chaos rolling, and one would think a culture that has had to deal with years-long winters for centuries would know better than to set their world on fire on the edge of what everyone agrees will be the longest cold season in a while.

preston jacobs theorizes that the dragon horn controls people, not dragons

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Ginette Reno posted:

Tywin treated his kids like such poo poo that they resorted to incest and power games to try to live up to him and ultimately got himself killed as well.

Queen of Thorns assassinated Joffrey which was a positive I guess but she also was helping Littlefinger who is a self interested poo poo so she probably got worked on that one somehow by Littlefinger's next level scheming ability.

Barristan gladly served two lovely tyrants.

The rest are probably okay I guess

e: Or are you wooshing me and this is a Boomer generation joke

littlefinger accidentally assassinated joffrey while trying to assassinate tyrion and blamed it on tyrell

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
american gods tv show just started and its very good just like the book

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Gravity Cant Apple posted:

Considering almost every book he's ever written ties into the Dark Tower series, and the existence of the Dark Tower as a completed work I'm going to give world-building to King.

no way. the dark tower connections are cool but it only connects to a few of his books in earnest. most of the time its just a reused idea transmogrified into a universal connection, or a reused setting that seems unchanged from the events of whatever other novel used it.

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

SaviourX posted:

Reusing some ideas and places or really broad references in a bunch of stories is cool though, and inspired how a lot of my shorter work, uh, works.
See also: Are You Afraid Of The Dark?

Like, having the core DT books be their own thing, and then satellite novels being related as tales in nearby realities is a good idea when you produce a lot and don't get bogged down in spergy details (not breaking your own rules is a basic guideline, though).

considering the DT books "core" and his other novels and short stories "satellite works" is a mistake. going by word count alone the dark tower series makes up very little of kings work, and the vast majority of his writing is totally unconnected to it

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
i hope the next book goes deep into the hightowers.....those guys are suspicious

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Lol it probably will, Sam's in oldtown after all.

i cant wait to read the perspectives of a bunch of characters that are secretly running all kinds of world changing scams and shadow plays in both continents and have been mentioned in passing in every book but drawn no attention because their names dont end in lannister or stark

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
one of the living targaryens is absolutely a dayne. only question is which one

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

pidan posted:

Skip nothing if you want a bunch of nice vignettes about a world in crisis.
Skip everything if you only want to read things that are relevant to the plot.

ya every chapter is good and relevant to the state of the world at that moment in time

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Dangerllama posted:

Seriously though, why at some point wouldn't someone have installed a more comfy throne? Or at least throw a couple of cushions on that bad boy.

its a metaphor

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

cis autodrag posted:

TVIV is the worst. They're piling on me as an sjw because I called the sex scene between Cooper and Janey in twin Peaks rape (cuz it is) and they all don't think it's rape because it was funny and also he's dumb cuz of magic so that's not exactly the same as raping a retarded person irl.

TVIV is the guy who says "but she said she was into it before she passed out drunk, I didn't rape her!"

are you saying retarded people cant have sex because they arent smart enough to consent

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
thats stupid.....hes clearly having a wonderful time.

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

cis autodrag posted:

Real cute quoting me in fyad

i thought your post was cute too

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

A GLISTENING HODOR posted:

The CGI direwolves make no sense if they're just going to be big wolves. Just take a regular wolf and do some of that clever LOTR style perspective shots. Or hell, just to have Ghost in the background just do the oldest trick in film, matte shots.

thats what they did and it looked like garbage

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
also lol at "the prince.....or princess that was promised. the high valyrian word for prince/princess has no gender you see"

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Kavak posted:

Peasant levies fell out of fashion IRL once warfare became more common, mercenaries got plentiful, and you generally needed to field people who knew what the hell they were doing. It would explain what happened to tactics more complicated than "charge" and formations more complicated than none at all.

then eventually napoleon brought the entire population of france to war with him and everyone went "why did we stop doing this again?"

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
its easy to forget thanks to the dumb show but darkstar allegedly carving up myrcella's face is probably extremely important

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
the leaked episode is really bad

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
arya literally has a bag of faces lol her character makes no sense

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

some guy on the bus posted:

Preston Jacobs has a theory... that it's not Arya. It's actually the Waif. The Waif killed Arya last season and took her face. That's why she's acting so strange this season.

preston jacobs owns

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
big epic story where the end is just as good as the beginning? let me describe to you the events of hit tv show Under The Dome

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
lannisters are ashkenazi and dornish/rhoynar are sephardic

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
those leaked script summaries are insanely bad and insanely real

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
ya shes not empowered shes just uhh powerful. those are actualky different things and this post isnt sarcastic

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

PupsOfWar posted:

I figure the forging of valyrian steel has to involve the death of a dragon in some way, to explain its rarity.

whether that's sacrificing them Nissa Nissa-style or harvesting their bones or what.

if all it took was dragonflame and human sacrifice, the extremely evil valyrians would have worked out some way to mass-produce it (like they did with dragon-stone) and there'd be more of it lying around

but a dragon is more powerful and valuable than any sword, so if it took dragon sacrifice they would only do it when a dragon was mortally wounded or near death, which given dragon lifespan would be infrequent

there are a lot of valyrian steel weapons lying all over the place in the books: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Valyrian_steel

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

NihilCredo posted:

My personal pet tinfoil theory is that, in the books, there is no such sword as Longclaw.. Neither Jorah nor Lyanna ever mention it, and it doesn't make sense to send it to the elderly retiree at the Wall instead of keeping it in the family castle which is full of warriors of both sexes.

Jon's sword is Dark Sister, which Bloodraven entrusted to his nephew Aemon when he went beyond the Wall to become the three-eyed raven, in a conspicuously sword-less cave.

Later, Bloodraven sent Aemon a dream - if Bran can whisper to Theon in Winterfell, then Bloodraven can practically chat with his relative at Castle Black. Or maybe he just sent him an actual physical raven, why not.

Either way, he told Aemon to give the sword to the Stark bastard, without revealing the sword's real identity, making up some other story and crafting a replacement pommel and crossguard.

Mormont was sceptical, he had half-hoped that once the Last Targaryen had passed away, the sword could have become the Lord Commander's sword of office, and restored some badly needed prestige to the Night's Watch. But after Jon saved his life, he decided to trust Aemon and play along with the charade.

(Maybe Bran will learn and reveal the sword's true story, maybe not.)

There are no Targaryen swords in the show, but in the books (whichwillnevercomeout) there could be a Dragonbowl between Aegon, the bastard who believes himself legitimater wielding Blackfyre, and Aejon, the legitimate heir who thinks himself a bastard wielding the bastard sword Dark Sister.

cool theory

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

A lot of pornos have men eating vaginas, so I don't see what's so special about that.

its quite special

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Lycus posted:

I had no idea that it's ultimately Lowtax's fault that Donald Trump is president.

this is true in a vast multitude of ways

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Sephyr posted:

poo poo, from all we've been shown R'lorr IS the only true religion. The Seven have never changed a dry fart into a wet one in the setting, but the red god has people raising the dead, summoning shadow devils, seeing the future, cloaking people under illusions...

the northern gods are real and behind every dream vision and prophecy

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
annie portena storm is a better name

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Syzygy Stardust posted:

Don’t sign your posts.

you hosed this up

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
why does his list of favorite books look like that of a nerdy 7th grader......wtf martin

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

I've come to the concluision that Fury Road is a weak and hypocritical fantasy for liberals.

actually its a strong and effective fantasy for leftists yearning for violent revolution against an overpowered military and fascist theocracy

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
you are retarded btw lol

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scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Judge Dredd with Eomer is hella good and whoever assuredly fought themselves to death to make a movie where you literally only see the main dudes scowling lips for the entire runtime is an American hero.

it was eomer himself

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