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Midnight-: Aug 22, 2007; Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man - and give some back.

Decius posted:

Both "break the fast" and "morrow" are real words/phrases though. Just not used much nowadays (breakfast comes from breaking the fast). Serjant is like Ser a different phonetic spelling of the normal word.

Serjeant is a real spelling still used in some cases. It isn't just made or spelt slightly different like Ser/Sir.

E.g: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serjeant-at-Arms_of_the_British_House_of_Commons

# ¿ Jul 16, 2011 12:50

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 07:37

Midnight-: Aug 22, 2007; Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man - and give some back.

My gut feeling is Aegon will die really in the attack on Storm's End.

I kinda wish Viserys had lived, got 50,000 Dothraki warriors, met up with 10,000 strong Golden Company, sailed to Westeros thinking he's about to win, only to be introduced to Aegon whose claim is far stronger. The reaction would have been amazing.

# ¿ Jul 16, 2011 21:09

Midnight-: Aug 22, 2007; Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man - and give some back.

It's not Dany or Aegon that's going to gently caress with Littlefinger's plan the most anyway - It's Rickon or Jon (being resurrected and freed from his oath and then being confirmed as legitimate, either by Stannis' order from Robbs previous order).

Though we know from the previous books that the forces in the Vale wanted to rally and declare for Robb anyway so we have to assume they'd do the same anyways.

# ¿ Jul 17, 2011 00:04

Midnight-: Aug 22, 2007; Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man - and give some back.

I think he is Aegon, but I can't see how he can not die.

# ¿ Jul 17, 2011 17:21

Midnight-: Aug 22, 2007; Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man - and give some back.

BeigeJacket posted:

Just finished the fucker last night, and just finished this thread. Was gonna post my thoughts, but it all seems to have been covered here pretty thoroughly already so gently caress that..

Things that I can't figure out though, after the 'peace' in Meereen is signed, why is the Yunkai army still besieging the city? And why is the Wilding princess Val so important that everyone shits their collective breeches when Jon lets her go?

Stannis' men think of her the same way they think of noble women from the seven kingdoms, that marrying her will bind the houses together. They don't realise that beyond the wall leadership comes from proving skill, not from blood, and that really Val, while respected, isn't any high ranking wildling.

# ¿ Jul 18, 2011 15:13

Midnight-: Aug 22, 2007; Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man - and give some back.

Has anyone got a link to that really detailed map of Westeros?

# ¿ Jul 18, 2011 20:22

Midnight-: Aug 22, 2007; Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man - and give some back.

FairGame posted:

Connington's dumb and should chop off his hand and then find a convenient "not greyscale" excuse.

Or go find a red priest to give him Victarion-style hot-dog hand.

He'll probably do it as soon as he's in a battle and can get away with it.

# ¿ Jul 19, 2011 16:41

Midnight-: Aug 22, 2007; Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man - and give some back.

OperaMouse posted:

Some guys have suggested the dragons tearing the pyramids of Meereen apart.

Zombie Gregor's armor gets pierced in Cercei's trial by combat, and his inside blows away like dust.

# ¿ Jul 19, 2011 17:25

Midnight-: Aug 22, 2007; Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man - and give some back.

Thing I never understood about Robert is why he wasn't best friends with Tyrion, as they blatantly should have been. And it would have been awesome.

# ¿ Jul 20, 2011 20:52

Midnight-: Aug 22, 2007; Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man - and give some back.

Personally I disliked the Arya chapters, every time she ran away and got recaptured by someone else my eyes rolled and just thought 'Again?'

# ¿ Jul 24, 2011 18:33

Midnight-: Aug 22, 2007; Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man - and give some back.

So GRRM has now said it's going to be 8 books rather than 7.

http://io9.com/5820288/george-rr-martins-song-of-ice-and-fire-may-turn-out-to-be-eight-books-instead-of-seven

# ¿ Jul 27, 2011 21:41

Midnight-: Aug 22, 2007; Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man - and give some back.

Joramun posted:

So wouldn't there be massive migration to the South during the Winter? Dorne will have to start worrying about a bevy of problems other than climate and if the weather's nice outside, such as territorial control, overpopulation, feeding all those hungry mouths and turf wars.

Isn't there only one path into Dorne, which is guarded by a Dornish army?

# ¿ Apr 15, 2012 14:45

Midnight-: Aug 22, 2007; Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man - and give some back.

Didn't Cercei name some random Lannister cousins as Warden of the West and castellan of Casterly Rock as a gently caress you to Kevan after he went all :iceburn:

on her in AFFC?

# ¿ Apr 15, 2012 19:46

Midnight-: Aug 22, 2007; Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man - and give some back.

Doesn't Leaf outright say that Coldhands got 'killed' ages and ages ago?

# ¿ Apr 17, 2012 01:37

Midnight-: Aug 22, 2007; Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man - and give some back.

Didn't Drogon burn the poo poo out of Dany's hands when she's out with him on 'dragonstone' in the Dothraki sea? I'm sure I remember there being passages about how struggling to climb down from there because he hands where so burnt and blistered.

# ¿ May 27, 2012 12:07

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 07:37

Midnight-: Aug 22, 2007; Pain or damage don't end the world, or despair, or fuckin' beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man - and give some back.

rejutka posted:

You mean apart from that armourer guy who makes two swords out of Ice? Admittedly, he may have quenched them in his apprentice or something, GRRM did not write of it either way.

He just reforged what he was given. He didn't make new Valyrian steel.

# ¿ Jun 10, 2012 23:23

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