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Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Trabandiumium posted:

why would you read storm of swords without liking the other 2

The first two books aren't bad but neither are astoundingly good.

# ¿ Dec 14, 2014 22:03

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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 20:39

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

It's a movie starring Seth Rogen. Of course The Interview is terrible.

# ¿ Dec 19, 2014 23:36

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

p.crestmont posted:

Tyrion's head is on Shae's body and I can't unsee it.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw the heads on the wrong bodies.

# ¿ Dec 25, 2014 19:12

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

I want the GOT series to end as a movie because there's no way it won't be a trainwreck trying to finish up everything in 2 hours in a way that makes sense to anyone who didn't watch the entire series and the last season shortly before seeing the movie.

# ¿ Dec 28, 2014 23:09

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

computer parts posted:

I mean I don't even know how Brandon Sanderson's going to pull his cosmic series together, and that man is literally a writing machine (although his giant novels have the problem of the protagonist being depressed for 2/3 of the novel and not doing much of anything).

I'm kinda dreading the next Stormlight book because it's pretty much a given that Kaladin will return home to try and save the people there and go in to a massive emo fit when he finds his parents are dead or were driven away by the lighteyed rear end in a top hat or some other Bad Thing, like his childhood friend having had the old guy's kids or she became a massive shitlord herself. There's just no way he goes there and it doesn't drop him in to another emotional black hole.

But on the upside, it's going to actually get written and that's more than can be said about ASOIAF or the Kingkiller storyline, which will just be another several hundred pages of Kvothe Potter at Wizard School and a few dozen pages of story (and pining over Denna).

# ¿ Dec 29, 2014 07:04

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

I kinda wish he'd done the 5 year leap just because we could've skipped dumb poo poo like Dany sitting around in Slaver's Bay. Though if it means we eventually get a season on HBO focused on Bran the Wild Boy King of the North, that's ok too I guess.

nine-gear crow posted:

I think the closest I've seen in to a situation like this is the first Full Metal Alchemist series. The producers know going into it that they were adapting a manga that was only half finished and wouldn't be done any time soon, so when they got the point where there was no more story, they just said gently caress it and made up their own ending and never looked back.

The key difference between that and this was that Hiromu Arakawa kept writing and eventually finished the story, which was then adapted into yet another anime. GRRM is a) probably not going to finish his story, and b) no one in their right mind is going to take a crack at adapting his ending when they have the show's ending to satisfy them.

The ending to the first FMA anime was dumb as hell though.

# ¿ Dec 29, 2014 16:49

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

I can believe that claim because he's pretty full of himself given the whole "American Tolkien"( :lol:

) label he's gotten from other people all because he wrote a series that's heavily based on an existing source.

# ¿ Jan 2, 2015 18:51

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

AtAt-de-fay posted:

Robin Hobb?

I still haven't gotten around to reading her stuff, so IDK.

# ¿ Jan 4, 2015 01:09

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Apparently Kit Harrington had a clause in his contract with HBO that he had to keep his hair long and lovely looking as long as he was playing Jon Snow, but he recently got a haircut and so people are freaking out.

# ¿ Jan 9, 2015 06:26

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

KKKLIP ART posted:

A redditor took a trip to a library that had the original manuscript of ADWD and it has some remarks from the editor and GRRM. The editor specifically asks about Coldhands and GRRM answers, so this is as close to wrapping up the who is Coldhands question as we can get unless GRRM changed his mind later. There is some neat stuff in the pictures.

The Coldhands = Benjen idea has always been dumb as hell though because it's mentioned at one point that Coldhands had been that way for a long time and at most Benjen's been missing a year or two when Bran meets him.

# ¿ Jan 12, 2015 22:32

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

I hope someone gets in to the room the transcript's stored, pohotgraphs every loving page, and posts it online because the man's going beyond Absolute Fucker. He's going to ascend to Absolute Fucker 2.

kcroy posted:

It wasn't dumb when you first read the books, and assume there is actual loving closure to plot arcs. You are looking for a missing Night's Watch Guy... you find a mystical Night's Watch Guy... Not crazy to assume they are related. Instead of "oh yeah, Benjen.. uhm dont worry about him. Or Rickon. Or Nymaria. Look, I got a loving Con to go to, quit bugging me"

There is nothing about GRRM's writing style that should even suggest closure for things. One of the few things he has going (that he;ll probably gently caress up) is the whole "not everything happens for a reason :dealwithit:

" unresolved things. Benjen goes missing doing a dangerous thing that gets a lot of people killed when they do it. Maybe he will do some "it's all connected" thing but the books have gotten bad enough without him having to go and actively make it worse by throwing in tropes he's avoided to some degree.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2015 06:39

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

TommyGun85 posted:

I dont understand why Benjen is such a big deal. Dude was a ranger, went into the forest, got dead, is gone forever. Thats it. Get over it.

This is pretty much my line of thought. So he was a Stark, big loving deal. If anything being a Stark is more of a reason to just treat him as dead and gone forever. He was a ranger and rangers die all the time, even ones who are good at what they do.

At most he served as a plot mechanic to get Jon to join the Night's Watch.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2015 17:27

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Hunky Joe posted:

I only assume this since we never hear mention of Tywin talking about it. And we haven't seen any repercussions given to the Westerlings. Maybe the Lannisters just ignored it and swept it under the rug as "well you did good but you kind of betrayed us so no hand outs for you douchebags."

They also have literally nothing. The Lannisters would strip away whatever they had and Robb's dead so they're basically outlaws and given that they were idiot nobles, they're as good as hosed and will probably be killed by some random bandits.

# ¿ Jan 16, 2015 01:39

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Crazy Joe Wilson posted:

So what do people think is going to be Tyrion's ultimate outcome in the books? I've been thinking about this lately, and I can't tell if Tyrion is going to get set up with a redemption starting with the Second Sons or if he's going to die while playing advisor to Danearys. I really can'tsee him getting back all the way to King's Landing to take vengeance on Cersei, I have a feeling Cersei's done for when Aegon shows up.

I hope he goes before Dany and she just has him killed offhand. "Oh you're that midget son of the rear end in a top hat who betrayed my father and whose brother murdered my father? Feed him to the dragons." It'd be worth it just so his goddamn cult of fans would lose their poo poo. No great showdown or anything. Just killed off like a chump because his luck ran out. Everyone wants him to be the Valonquar and kill Cersei but that's going to be Jaime if she's gonna get killed off by family.

# ¿ Jan 19, 2015 07:02

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Rosscifer posted:

It just show him on the dais. I was shocked he wasn't invited up there in the books. All that needs to happen is for Barristan to say "hey that's Tyrion" when Tyrion almost becomes lion food in the pit.

Why would Barristan want to do anything to save a Lannister? His king was betrayed by their family and he was forced out of the Kingsguard by Cersei. That's assuming he can even recognize Tyrion from where he was at. Or that Dany's immediate reaction wouldn't be something along the lines of "oh someone from the House that betrayed and murdered my father? I changed my mind, let the lions eat them."

# ¿ Jan 19, 2015 18:54

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

I could see him having some clause with HBO stating that they aren't allowed to say how the books were going to end and have to do their own ending and only ever speak of it and not his 'true' ending that you only get to see by collecting all the Absolute Fucker and Mummery tokens hidden throughout the waiting game.

# ¿ Jan 23, 2015 00:29

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

I would laugh soooooooo hard if he forced the HBO show into a hiatus.

You're joking right? Why do you think the show's creators were told the ending for the books? Even GURM knew they'd get to TWOW before he does*. Besides HBO would have the fans on their side in any dispute where GURM says to stop the show and HBO tells him to go get hosed and die of shitdick. Once HBO started the show the only way it was going to end is if HBO pulled the plug. At this rate HBO will probably finish ASOIAF and exploit a loophole in the contract to allow them to keep making more seasons. Since they've started diverting from the book so much it's not like their writers won't have experience making things up.

Plus if they need some good writing talent to keep it all going then HBO could go for the gently caress You GURM hattrick of hiring Brandon Sanderson to write more plot and story for HBO's A Game of Thrones. Then in Season 8 as ASOIAF winds down HBO announces that the lead character of Season 9, Hoid, has been cast. :getin:

*alternately: GURM decided he doesn't want to write books and signed up with HBO fully intending to have them write the last two books for him, while paying him shitloads of money.

# ¿ Jan 31, 2015 01:11

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Once I finish with Mistborn (probably 1/3 to 1/5 through Hero of Ages atm) wouldit be better to start on Hobbs (and which series) or another Sandersen line? I've already read the two Stormlight Archives books.

# ¿ Jan 31, 2015 05:55

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Shageletic posted:

Hobbs. Then Le Guin. Women fantasy authors supremacy.

I was going to grab Alloy of Law but people keep saying Hobbs so I think Farseer it will be.

kaworu posted:

what happened to the people Robb sent into the Neck with his will that Jon be legitimized and succeed him..

Weren't these guys caught out by the Ironborn? I could've sworn that their fate is mentioned in passing.

Though the simple answer is: GRRM always intended to leave things unresolved because well Tolkien never mentioned in detail what happened with all the orcs, trolls, and so forth after the ring's destroyed. Or he just wants to have people wanting more that they will never get, so they are hooked and discuss the story long after he's consumed by shitdick.

# ¿ Feb 3, 2015 19:29

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

As awful as that all sounds at least it has an ending.

# ¿ Feb 4, 2015 20:30

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

It's GURM so I imagine they're both supposed to still be well underage for when the sex scene(s) happens.

# ¿ Feb 4, 2015 21:38

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

The American Tolkien.

# ¿ Feb 4, 2015 23:59

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Tyrion's plot armor was so goddamn think at times it should've crushed him to death. Arya too.

# ¿ Feb 5, 2015 18:54

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Tyrion's entire survival in the Vale and how he just up and recruits all the bandits/wildmen/whatever was pretty absurd, though Pod being able to stick by him on the Blackwater was dumb as hell and yes he should've died there. Same with getting whisked out of the arena seconds away from being lion chow and so forth.

computer parts posted:

The only time he was in legitimate danger was before we knew he was Ramsay.

I mean yeah it seems like Roose would finally just go kill him but kinslaying is seen as pretty important still.

Roose only has Ramsay as an heir for now, so that's probably no small part in it. If he can live long enough to get a son via the Frey he married I imagine the assassination attempts on Ramsay and vice versa will come quickly.

Maybe GURM's ending is going to be Ramsay atop the iron skull throne as the third Targaryen.

# ¿ Feb 5, 2015 21:32

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Yeah people were freaking out over it sometime last month. I hope Jon Snow's dead and that GRRM comes out and says "guess his parentage doesn't matter now, does it you suckers?"

# ¿ Feb 6, 2015 02:08

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

OhYeah posted:

My friend just gave me The First Law trilogy boxset as a gift. I haven't read much fantasy since high school, other than Tolkien and Gurm. Generally I undertand that Abercrombie is considered a good author?

You'll probably have the ending and the twists figured out by the end of the first book but it's an otherwise good trilogy. I never bothered with the standalone(?) stuff after it though. I wouldn't call First Law great but it was good enough. If the trilogy were to get a subtitle it'd probably be First Law: Everyone is an rear end in a top hat and those who aren't are dead by the end."

Just finished Alloy of Law and people weren't kidding that it's short. On to Farseer now and god knows what else while we wait for GURM to die and his executor to ignore his wishes by handing off the series to be finished by someone else/competent.

# ¿ Feb 8, 2015 19:16

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

SaviourX posted:

It felt like Jon was still getting the typical fantasy/animu treatment of 'can't do anything wrong, every choice serves to show how he's predestined to be awesome' sort of bullshit. Still feels like it, actually.

I'm not sure you're reading the same series as the rest of us. Jon's pretty consistently showing himself to be an idiot and a short tempted brat. He gets pissed because he's told a rider is coming from Winterfell and he assumes it's Arya and when it isn't he throws a fit about being mislead, is told he injected Arya in to it himself as wishful thinking, and then instead of realizing he's being told things that are true, ignores them and gets what he deserved.

Just like how Targaryeans tend to be crazy due to inbreeding, I think excess exposure to the cold causes Stark men to suffer brain damage.

Or that GRRM defies convention in any way when writing. Robb wasn't the destined hero to right the wrongs, he was hubris.txt wrapped in some furs.

# ¿ Feb 11, 2015 02:49

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Boy are you guys going to feel silly when it turns out that Robert Strong is actually Geoffrey.

# ¿ Feb 12, 2015 03:55

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

At this point the best thing to happen wpuld be for him to no longer be able to write the books, and his executor up and decides :gently caress it I want money, I'm going to have someone finish it."

Then they pass it to Patrick Rothfuss and we get a 900 page novel about Sam going to school in Oldtown. :suicide: