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So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011

User0015 posted:

I am popping into this thread for one specific question.

Are there Arya chapters?

Yes.

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So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
Here's a sneak preview from a Winds Of Winter chapter if anyone's interested.

http://twitpic.com/5zztix/full

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
Is there any chance we can change the GURM monkier into The Railroad. As in George "The Railroad" Martin? While the GURM delves into the essence of his creepy core implying he is like some sort of contagious germ, The Railroad delves into his larger than life personality and how he is fat. (Plus the whole RR thing)

So It Goes fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Apr 8, 2012

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
So I've decided to make the "Vice is nice, but incest is the best. Families that stay together play together" quote my new title with a picture of GRRM as the avatar. What is the creepiest/most appropiate avatar-size picture of him that can be found? This one is my leading contender so far:

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
Is there any actual source at all on the merging of the characters thing. I follow the show and have never heard that before until now. I assume it's just inductive reasoning from that character not being cast?

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
Also, was the queen of thorns even in book 2 for that matter? My earliest recollection of her is talking to Sansa in King's Landing in what has to be book 3. Why can't they just introduce her character next season when she will be doing something?

There doesn't seem to be any actual good reason to jump to the merging character conclusion.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlVnhIDsKIY

Would love to see this video updated after the Red Wedding. What lovely teenage-angst song will be used?

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
Since we're currently trying to ruin days, here's an excerpt from the GURM's best story, 'The Meathouse Man'.

GURM posted:

He stank of sweat and sulfur, like all who walked the streets of Skrakky, but there was no help for that. It would be better if he could bathe first, but the room did not have a bath. Just a sink, double bed with sheets that looked dirty even in the dimness, a corpse.


She lay there naked, staring at nothing, breathing shallow breaths. Her legs were spread; ready. Was she always that way, Trager won­dered, or had the man before him arranged her like that? He didn’t know. He knew how to do it (he did, he did, he’d read the books Cox gave him, and there were films you could see, and all sorts of things), but he didn’t know much of anything else. Except maybe how to han­dle corpses. That he was good at, the youngest handler on Skrakky, but he had to be. They had forced him into the handlers’ school when his mother died, and they made him learn, so that was the thing he did. This, this he had never done (but he knew how, yes, yes, he did); it was his first time.


He came to the bed slowly and sat to a chorus of creaking springs. He touched her and the flesh was warm. Of course. She was not a corpse, not really, no; the body was alive enough, a heartbeat under the heavy white breasts, she breathed. Only the brain was gone, ripped from her, replaced with a deadman’s synthabrain. She was meat now, an extra body for a corpsehandler to control, just like the crew he worked each day under sulfur skies. She was not a woman. So it did not matter that Trager was just a boy, a jowly frog-faced boy who smelled of Skrakky. She (no it, remember?) would not care, could not care.


Emboldened, aroused and hard, the boy stripped off his corpse-handler’s clothing and climbed in bed with the female meat. He was very excited; his hands shook as he stroked her, studied her. Her skin was very white, her hair dark and long, but even the boy could not call her pretty. Her face was too flat and wide, her mouth hung open, and her limbs were loose and sagging with fat.


On her huge breasts, all around the fat dark nipples, the last cus­tomer had left tooth-marks where he’d chewed her. Trager touched the marks tentatively, traced them with a finger. Then, sheepish about his hesitations, he grabbed one breast, squeezed it hard, pinched the nipple until he imagined a real girl would squeal with pain. The corpse did not move. Still squeezing, he rolled over on her and took the other breast into his mouth.

And the corpse responded.


She thrust up at him, hard, and meaty arms wrapped around his pimpled back to pull him to her. Trager groaned and reached down between her legs. She was hot, wet, excited. He trembled. How did they do that? Could she really get excited without a mind, or did they have lubricating tubes stuck into her, or what?


Then he stopped caring. He fumbled, found his penis, put it into her, thrust. The corpse hooked her legs around him and thrust back. It felt good, real good, better than anything he’d ever done to himself, and in some obscure way he felt proud that she was so wet and excited.


It only took a few strokes; he was too new, too young, too eager to last long. A few strokes was all he needed—but it was all she needed too. They came together, a red flush washing over her skin as she arched against him and shook soundlessly.

Afterwards she lay again like a corpse.


Trager was drained and satisfied, but he had more time left, and he was determined to get his money’s worth. He explored her thor­oughly, sticking his fingers everywhere they would go, touching her everywhere, rolling it over, looking at everything. The corpse moved like dead meat.


He left her as he’d found her, lying face up on the bed with her legs apart. Meathouse courtesy.


Truly the voice of our generation.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
The bitching in this thread is better than what the TVIV reaction would've been to a Renly death anyways. Like, they definately should've had Renly die this episode but holy poo poo are you guys whiny and mad about a series you profess to hate so much. Is this what it truly means to be a wild card? To just bitch and moan that a book series you don't like wasn't adapted to your standards?

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011

whowhatwhere posted:

Maybe we should start recommending good books instead. Starting with fantasy, one everyone should have already read: Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell.

I love this book but still see get a lot of poo poo around here, although it is a good sign the poo poo is always about being a slow starter/length as opposed to having creepy sex. I'm pretty sure the most liked fantasy series around here are Lies of Locke Lamora and The First Law stuff.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
I feel like there has to be some interesting psychological takeaway from fantasy books absolutely dominating this subforum while simultaneously mostly being consindered poo poo. I'm not sure what it would be though.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
http://www.avclub.com/articles/here-are-some-of-the-new-characters-coming-to-game,75763/

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
I wish there was a way to effectively show this thread to show watchers so they can get a glimpse into what they will become.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
Your guys idea is getting beaten to the punch, better get this out soon before the concept of making porn versions of popular books becomes outdated.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/fifty-shades-of-grey-now-also-ruining-classic-lite,82638/

AV Club posted:

Aside from inspiring everything from increased sales of classical music to all-sex-toys-and-shame-included hotel packages to memberships to "Sugar Daddy" websites, in addition to the sudden realization by women that their vaginas can be used for things other than storing children or occasional jars of preserves, Fifty Shades Of Grey is causing huge ramifications in the world of literature. And not just by influencing modern authors have who struggled for years over their very personal artistic statements—only to learn that E.L. James is raking in over $1 million a week for essentially rewriting Twilight with spanking instead of vampires—to just say gently caress it, and start writing novels like The Girl Who Met The Hot, Brooding Rich Guy And Maybe They Used Anal Beads, You Sexually Repressed Shut-In.

No, according to The Hollywood Reporter, Fifty Shades has even begun to retroactively penetrate classics of yore, which is a sexy word that people like to read. "Penetrate," he gasped, instantly earning us thousands of dollars. Anyway, digital publisher Clandestine Classics has now taken the recent "Jane Austen plus zombies" formula to its dismally logical conclusion with Fifty Shades-inspired versions of books like Jane Eyre, Pride And Prejudice, Northanger Abbey, Sherlock Holmes: A Study In Scarlet, and 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, all with added sex scenes and—to quote a passage from the "enhanced" Pride And Prejudice—steamy descriptions like this one of Mr. Darcy: "Hot, spicy, and all man." The books will be targeted at both straight and, in the case of Sherlock Holmes, gay readers, with the homoerotic relationship that Guy Ritchie's movies only implied between Holmes and Watson taken to a very literal place. No word on whether the sexed-up 20,000 Leagues will similarly be targeted at hentai fans who enjoy tentacle rape, but considering Clandestine insists that the books are "keeping the original prose and the author's voice," yes, probably.

So It Goes fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Jul 19, 2012

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
It's genuinely sad the ASOIAF video game rights are sold to such lovely companies to dump out essentially shovelware.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011

Junkenstein posted:

I dunno, it's easy to say that people who haven't died yet have plot armour.

Not to mention that in Ramsey's case, he could even be dead right now if the letter Jon received was written by Mance. I don't know if the show is supposed to get to the winterfell stuff this season, but it'll be interesting if the show definitively shows Stannis or Ramsey (or Mance) dying this season, or Jon getting resurrected by Melisandre.

Man I'd forgotten that DwD doesn't even bother to resolve the Winterfell battle or the obviously not really dead Jon. It's like if CoKs ended right before the blackwater battle or before revealing the Bran/Rickon fakeout. At least the other books told complete narrative arcs, that's the biggest disappointment with Feast and Dance.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
The sandsnakes were terrible in the book as well. They are literally comic book characters, where the identifying trait about them is the weapon they use, and otherwise the whole group is completely interchangeable. They remind me of the bosses you fight in mega man. This person is whip girl. This one is spear girl. Of course they were just tertiary characters in the book so it didn't really matter, but they still sucked.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011

emanresu tnuocca posted:

Only, none of this is true?

I understand that people misliked the Dorne chapters, and then the show came and made people hate Dorne even more, but you're just conflating the two mediums and injecting bad show characterization into the novels, in the novels there are 8 sand snakes, only 4 of whom make an appearance, Obara and Nymeria are somewhat similar in that they are both warrior women but even then they are described completely differently, Obara is hotheaded and simpleminded while Nymeria is seductive, charming and cunning. Tyene is not at all a warrior lady and Sarella doesn't even appear directly in the Dorne chapters, she spends the entire book posing as an acolyte in the citadel.

In the show they all dress the same and only differ from one another in their choice of weaponry and in their personality archetypes, you have sexy snake, scowling snake and sardonic snake, but really, that's a show thing.

Everything you described is terrible, much like the Dorne chapters in the book.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
It's gonna be weird if WoW gets released in 10 years and we have to remember that characters like Penny exist in the books.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011

Former Everything posted:

um, i don't check in here a lot because there will never be another book but

did i just read somewhere that there are five "successor" shows being planned for the HBO series? like 5 more TV shows about asoiaf are in the works for after got finishes? what in the hell is going on?

Most likely, only one of them will get made. They won't actually make all of them (probably), they just ordered scripts and outlines for the six concepts.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011

Woodpile posted:

What about R+L=J? I mean, you had to read the first book two entire times to suss that one out.

I don’t know if it figured it out but I highly suspected it during my first (and only) read. Once the flashback happened where dying lyanna said promise me Ned, I thought that the most likely promise would be to take care of this child I just birthed. After thinking that, it’s a very short leap to think about Jon and then consider Rheagars kidnapping and that he was father (even if through a rape).

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011

nine-gear crow posted:

Reddit is largely garbage, but r/freefolk is great. It's this thread, only spread out across an entire subforum.

Every time I’ve been there it’s basically been a tumblr blog full of shipping (usually Jon and Danny) and those macro picture memes with the captions or whatever.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
If the episode had just bothered to set up Aryas attack from a logistics perspective (maybe Theon sees her and charges as a distraction that lets her sneak in?); and killed off an actual big-ish character besides Jorah (probably Brienne, and then have her come back and either Jaime or Podrik kill her) then it would’ve been enough for me to call it a good episode honestly. I accepted long ago the night king and crew were never going to get explanations so just cleaning up some dumb logistic stuff and having the balls to kill off a meaningful character (that isn’t Edd or Beric lol) would have been enough for me. Cersei is a more interesting final villain because she can loving talk so I don’t share the complaints that are geared toward being disappointed the white walkers died in episode 3. Good riddance IMO, I just wish the battle itself was a little better

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011

PupsOfWar posted:

the hodor reveal was actually eerie and disconcerting, so ive always assumed it to be a gurm thing

The show runners said GRRM told them three holy poo poo moments. One was Stannis burning Shireen, one was the Hodor thing, and the other hasn’t happened yet. The Stannis burning Shireen thing is interesting since in the books it isn’t quite set-up logistically. I guess Stannis is defeated at Winterfell and retreats to the wall (through a blizzard?) and then burns her there?

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011

PupsOfWar posted:

did gurm say stannis himself burns her?

Yes. The conversation would’ve happened three-ish years before book 5 was released for what it’s worth.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011

esperterra posted:

iirc it was just that Shireen burns. The never specified if GURM said Stannis does it.

Shireen is currently 200 miles away at the Wall while Stannis is snowed in outside Winterfell.

https://ew.com/article/2016/05/24/george-rr-martin-3-twists-game-thrones/

It may be hearsay but it says Stannis

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
I don’t think there’s any way in the books to have Bran be king and the North be independent. If one happens the other basically cannot. No one from the other kingdoms would agree to be ruled by someone who isn’t even from a kingdom that is part of the coalition. Dorne and Iron Islands would last a couple years before declaring independence based on the precedent. Either the north stays or Bran won’t be ruling the non-north kingdoms. It’s honestly just a ridiculous situation.

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So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011

Is there any sort of synopsis of how that person decided to end it? Like, if King Bran isn’t the ending for the throne than who is on the throne in the end? How did they end up ending the white walkers threat? Curious although nowhere even close to curious enough to actually read a hundred fan-fiction chapters.

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