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Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

Skeesix posted:

Overall though, the actual writing is better than I was lead to believe...

I finished ADWD recently and while it took me a long time to really get into it, by the end I must admit I was really hooked because I was expecting something huge. But that ending... it was such a wet fart that my opinion of the whole thing just did a complete 180. Looking back on it, absolutely nothing remotely relevant to the plot had happened. The whole book was just a huge filler with absolutely no payoff. GRRM could have easily cut half of those Daenerys/Tyrion chapters but he clearly had no idea what he wanted to do with those characters.

ADWD is basically GRRM's version of a christmas special.

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Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

jsoh posted:

i think jon betraying his oath and the civil war brewing in the north is kind of plotty.

Yeah, I liked those chapters. I also liked Varys' appearance, and the few dorne chapters too. It's mostly the Daenerys/Tyrion copout that pissed me off, considering he dedicated half of his book to it.

As I said, I was mostly enjoying it until I realized he had just delayed the climax of his book to the next installment.

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

Junkenstein posted:

In case you're not aware, the publisher said "gently caress you grrm, we're not waiting any longer" and literally released the book without the climax (to the North stories, anyway).

I wasn't aware of that. I guess he probably would have had more time to write that climax if he'd spent less time on his side project "The Adventures of Huckleberry Lannister, World Cyvasse Champion"

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

counterfeitsaint posted:

I haven't actually looked it up, but based on what I've heard/seen, didn't season 5 win like more emmys than ever, and was considered a huge success, despite it being hot garbage? I expect it to continue to explode into season 6.

It wouldn't surprise me, these awards have a bit of inertia and the show is probably still reaping the rewards of its early seasons that were actually decent.

(apparently it's been collecting the most emmies for the past 3 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...Game_of_Thrones)

It feels weird waiting after an HBO show to provide some closure on a rather obscure series of books I started reading in high school when everyone was getting into Harry Potter. (I live in France, not sure how popular the books were in the US at the time of their publication)

I mean, I'm sure deep down no one cares anymore but we still can't stop watching this trainwreck.

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

kcroy posted:

No new book yet.. but they have announced some reprints and 4 new novels...

http://grrm.livejournal.com/525227.html

WTF is this fanblog about Wildcards and football doing in the ASoIaF thread, self promotion is probatable on this forum man. Reported.

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

It hit me yesterday that book-Jon is still dead and book Stannis is still alive. (I'm not doing the whole list, it's more effort than GRRM deigns providing to his own series at this point).

Regarding the next book I will read it if it comes out some day but I have decided to not give a single penny for it.

kcroy posted:

I would rubber hose his rear end until he gives permission to print whatever the gently caress is done at that point.

Last time his publisher did this A Dance with Dragons happened.

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

pidan posted:

A dance with dragons was ok.

To be honest I didn't hate ADWD until I reached the end. (except for everything Tyrion)

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

kcroy posted:

completely off topic, but I need to apologize to TBT. In the discussions of good sci fi to read, I have often chimed in when people talk about Hyperion. The general consensus is that the first two books are good. Books 3/4 are terrible. Previously, I have defended book 3/4 ( Endymion ) - however I just re-skimmed them, and they are loving horrible. Just had to get that out of my system.

4 was just an endless depiction of the protagonists either loving, eating, or a mix of both. It's kinda like asoiaf in that regard.

pidan posted:

Is the book out yet

It is:
https://tinyurl.com/ybo3loue

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

PupsOfWar posted:



Though, come to think of it, Olenna must have teleporter access, if the leaks are correct and she is killed in the sack of Highgarden next episode. This knowledge should have been shared with her new allies.

I didn't read the leaks but how is that supposed to happen, aren't the Tyrells the backbone of Cersei's troops ? (hence how Olenna was able to impose Margery as the queen.)

...Oh wait, Euron is going to sail back across the whole continent in a day right ?

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

TOOT BOOT posted:

They didn't do a siege because it would last longer than the scope of the main story, and they took a narrative shortcut to the end result because no one gives a poo poo you nerds

B-b-but my fidelity !

Oh wait this isn't the Star Citizen thread. So, is the book out ?

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

Thanks to whoever posted that leak for S8.

https://youtu.be/_Lp9F_P0dwA

Now let's remember this show for what it did good.

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

nine-gear crow posted:

(...) run by a production crew who genuinely deserve better EPs than the two dignuses they're stuck with, if the behind the scenes material can be believed. (...)

Genuinely curious about this since I've never really dug into the production of the show. Do you have sources for this ?

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

Jack2142 posted:

Brilliant idea,

GRRM should just release whatever he has finished for the 6th book and then sell the remaining chapters that are missing as DLC.

Ever noticed the "C" in DLC ?

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

PupsOfWar posted:

football season

Sorry for my ignorance but when is it not football season in the US ?

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

emanresu tnuocca posted:

People expect to hear my erudite Book Reader's Critique, I have an obligation to tell people the show they like is actually stupid and really bad.

I take a guilty pleasure in bashing the books whenever a show watcher asks for my opinion on them. Sure they're better than the TV show for the most part but gently caress letting friends or coworkers give more money to the Absolute Fucker.

Sassy Sasquatch fucked around with this message at Jan 14, 2018 around 13:54

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

I don't even resent the fat fucker. He can't finish his life's work, the series that made him famous and will be beaten to it by a lovely TV show. That's punishment enough. gently caress his apologists with rusty barbed wire though.

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I still believe there will be something called "The Winds of Winter" poo poo out by the publisher just in time for the final season in a year. It will be 75% complete without a real ending, and considering that the first 33% will be stuff that was cut from ADOD, it will effectively be 50% of a new book. That's it though, there will be nothing after that.

On the other hand, I that GURM will not release TWOW in his lifetime.

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

Marijuana posted:

Does this thread accurately represent how the fandom is turning against GRRM or do the dorks at westeros.org still worship him?

Here's some anecdotal evidence for you: my gf and a group of her friends are admins of the biggest french ASOIAF fansite so they're pretty invested in the series. When I met her and her friends 3 years ago they were full on "GRRM is not your bitch" apologists. Fast forward to today: they now openly bitch about how bad and nonsensical the show has become and if you press them they admit that fat pink mast will likely never finish his series. We hatewatch the episodes together as they come out. GRRM has become a punchline and all is well.

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

A GLISTENING HODOR posted:

Someone should feed all the sex and food scenes to a bot and have it write TWOW.

GRRM is way ahead of you there, it's just the interfacing with Wordstar 3 he has issues with.

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.


Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.


Website is blocked in the EU due to GDPR (lol really) what does the article say ?

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

I'm expecting a manifesto from him before I expect a novel.

Pear shaped men of all countries unite ! We must seize the means of production. Anyone got a link to ... *checks notes* Wordstar 4.0 ?

Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.


What's this Winds of Winter GURM keeps ranting about ? Has he partnered with Disney to produce a sequel to Frozen or something ?

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Sassy Sasquatch
Feb 28, 2013

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.

I mean that article has a valid point though, the conclusion is

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