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mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

The Mutato posted:

This is why we need hardcopies to hand out/throw at people.

Also, wtf is this:



Do people actually care if he has his nose or not? I really don't, not at all.

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mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

I choose to see this as good news.

Despite what this article says, I don't think GURM will be doing another project with HBO while GoT is going on, or ever, really.

So, by locking GURM up and giving him more money, HBO has actually put him on a shorter leash. He is now actually an HBO employee. Now, he can't shop Wild Cards to SciFy or whoever else. Also, if they prove he isn't writing, he could possibly be in breach of contract. I would think GURM is a total idiot if he does not finish WoW during this two year deal.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire
So, I bet a buddy $5 that they will include "Don't cut my hair, Ned loves my hair". He is convinced that the line is no where near as popular with the general fandom as it is with us. I think it's a seminal moment, and may even be the end of the episode.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

Shoehead posted:

I just woke up, was it great?

The show or the show-only fan rage? Because the answer to both is than my wildest dreams.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire
Yes, lets get rid of the only reason why asoiaf rises above the poo poo-heap that is the fantasy genre and make it a standard hero story.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

stawk Archer posted:

Nobody is going to really want Gregor to die that badly because they haven't shown how rapey he is.

Still plenty of time for that next year. It's been hinted at already.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire
That looks like if an abortion had lived, not an ugly midget.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

Not My Goodies posted:

Bret Easton Ellis for Arya's chapters

This is the greatest sentence ever written.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire
Spoilers wouldn't really

pentyne posted:

If we tried TVIV would rush in and scream every spoiler they could, frothing at the mouth and masturbating furiously as they imagine our tears of disappointment at not being able to enjoy every shocking scene and be forced to only experience the character development and masterful dialogue.

You are right. The Wire is more about the how than the what.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

SaviourX posted:

That is an acceptable substitute.


Here's some spoilers for the show: It's a greek tragedy. People die, good intentions get punished, the shitheels get promoted, other people get crushed by the system. So, fantastic, really.

Bad guys aren't so bad, good guys aren't so good. Bureaucracy is the ultimate evil.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

p.crestmont posted:

I just realized Jon's ADWD story is similar to Cercei's AFFC arc; they are both doomed to be ousted from their places of power due to a comical sequence of bad decisions. Their motivations are complete polar opposites, but their MOs are actually pretty similar in that they systematically alienate everyone around them. Cercei's chapters and goof ups are funnier on reread, but Jon is just as tragically bullheaded and dumb in his own way.

lovely leaders are a staple of asoiaf. I love the idea of a quest for power, then having no clue how to use it.

I think Jon in Dance reminds me more of Ned than anyone. The job is thrust on them, rather than seeking it out. They mean well, but lose the forest for the trees.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire
GURM just wrote a blog post crying about how the TV iron throne isn't like the one he imagined.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire
I think the GURM clearly is starting to get nervous about getting lapped by the show. Why write a blog post bitching for no reason? The show is 99 percent faithful to the books and he bitched about the changes.

I think the show Wild Carding us is very, very real at this point. Season four is already being filmed. My theory is that if TWoW is not out by the time they start on season five, they might just part ways with the stringent adherence to GURM and move towards wrapping it up. Feast/Dance are so lovely, figuratively and literally, why adapt them any more that you have to? You could easily cut the Nuncles of the Greyjoys, Doran Martel's gout and rotten-rear end Mereen without skipping a beat.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

Bluedust posted:

I'm just amazed that a dude that put out the first 3 books within 6 years has this much trouble. Meereeneese (sp? who fuckin knows) Knot my rear end, that doesn't turn 3 books in 6 years to two (one) book in 11 (without a climax). But now I'm already putting my brain into too much thought here. gently caress him, go David and Dan.

e: 3 incredible first books I meant to say.

The more we think about ASoIaF as as trilogy, the better off we will be.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

Potooweet posted:

means it isn't really a complaint. He's just shilling product.

Another delayed book, lol.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire
Just listened to GURM on the nerdist, and my recommendation is don't bother. The guy has a very high opinion of himself, and literally thinks he is the alpha nerd. If you are curious about the history of conventions or want more info on the origin of wild cards, enjoy.

I really wish ASoS wasn't so good, because I hate being part of this fandom sometimes. At least the show is great.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

A GLISTENING HODOR posted:

Remember when you were excited for Tyrion's chapters?

If your intention was to make me feel sad, you have succeeded.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

Gygaxian posted:

Another terrible bit I noticed are the "Reek" chapters. Good lord, they're basically torture porn. It's disgusting. The Gurm seems to revel in these chapters. And speaking of that, I used to like the Boltons as an dark foil to the Starks, but after reading the Reek chapters, and learning about how Roose Bolton apparently has screaming faces for his shoulderplates, I couldn't take the Boltons seriously anymore. I mean, sure, I could understand the flayed man theme, that's what the Boltons do, after all. And other houses have sillier symbols. And I could even understand the "creepy medieval Richard Simmons with leeches" vibe from the Leech Lord. But the "we're obviously evil, even in this setting" bits are ridiculous, with the aforementioned screaming faces shoulderplates and Ramsay being the dumbest serial killer character I've seen in fantasy. I can't treat the Boltons seriously, and Gurm seems to have a voyueristic streak with "Reek".

Reek is far and away my favorite part of Dance. I'm sure it's unbearable if you don't like those chapters.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

Alhazred posted:

Fixed the post for you.

Manderly owns, no doubt.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

savinhill posted:

I liked Victarion too because it was refreshing reading a POV that was just so decisive and got poo poo done after reading so many other chapters where either a character was having command problems and had to agonize over every decision made or were being held captive by someone else and had no agency of their own.

Yup. Lots of whining and introspection in Dance, Victarion stays assertive.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire
They show is outstanding. The books have higher highs, but much, much lower lows.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

Joramun posted:

The show's lows are just as low if not lower than those of the books. Littlefinger wiping cum off a whore's mouth and then making her kiss the next customer is just as gross if not moreso than Ramsay forcing Theon to go down on Jeyne to moisten her up. You don't get to take the high road as a show fanboy, buddy. It's all equally depraved.

I meant in quality, not depravity. I agree, the show is nearly as gross as the books.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

HaitianDivorce posted:

But one thing I noticed on my re-reads is that ASoIaF is full of those sort of characters. You've got Mance who climbs the Wall and sings to his mortal enemies, Marwyn who sets off on his own to parts unknown and comes back the only maester who knows what's going on, Drogo who must have been the most awesome raider the Dothraki have ever seen, Robbie who is kicking so much rear end offscreen his wolf is going feral because it's tasted too much human blood, Varys and Illyrio who apparently held an entire city in the palms of their hands--people who almost seem like they could have their own little heroic fantasy novels to themselves. I like it; it makes the setting feel (for lack of a better word) epic.

This is why Feast/Dance is so disappointing. GURM builds a world full of alpha people you wish would just do something because of how cool they are. Instead, we get Quentin, beta male for the ages.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

regulargonzalez posted:

How come you guys spend so much time talking about a series you despise

We hate ourselves for loving it.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

Holy Calamity! posted:

I like gurm and the asoiaf series :)

What about GURM do you like?

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire
lol at Feast/Dance being three seasons. 30 episodes of Breinne looking for her sister, a maid of three and ten? 30 episodes of Mereen and making GBS threads? 30 episodes of Quentin wandering the desert on a journey with no point?

If I were running the show, Feast/Dance starts during season four and is concluded by season five's end. It looks like David and Dan agree with me, based on the season previews.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire
With all that pink mast swagger you roll, you telling me you can't spot crazy pussy?

Or

GURM is the Michael Jordan of being a son of a bitch.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire
The bad thread is the most reasonable place in the asoiaf fandom. The GURM works* in mysterious ways.









*he doesn't actually work

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

Solice Kirsk posted:

I can't wait for this season to be over because we are going to have at least one solid season of wheel spinning that everyone will have to suffer through.

I don't think the show fans will ever really know our pain, honestly. Dany and Bran look like they might catch up to the books by the end of this year. I think some characters will reach deep into TWoW material before the end of season five. The show runners are no dummies, they know Feast/Dance is lean on plot.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

Shoehead posted:

I'm not sure what it says about someone if they can put off reading a book for 4 years now, yet they can't stay off of twitter for 12 hours on Monday before they get home from work to watch it air on Sky/ steal it online.

I want the internet to tell me things, but not the things I don't want to hear at this exact moment.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

Junkenstein posted:

It's finally starting to get to him isn't it? He's realising that in two years this rape nonsense will be nothing, because the show will be making things up wholesale, and whatever version gets out there first will be the one people remember as 'cannon'.

I mean, loving hell, it was only a few years ago that every post on his blog was about the TV show, with all that casting rumour quiz poo poo. And now he doesn't want any discussion on there?

I think we are just getting the tip of the iceberg of GURM's butthurt about all of this. The 'butterfly effect' is something he has brought up many times, and only tells me that he gets offended by every little change, since he thinks it all will culminate in big changes to the story. This would be no big deal if he were to ever finish his books, but instead he will be arguing every little point with the ASoIaF document of record, the show.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

unlimited shrimp posted:

I couldn't care less about spoilers in general, and ASoIaF in particular. I'll read the books regardless so give me all the spoilers u can handle.

A spoiler is proof that the story is making progress. I welcome this.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

Hogge Wild posted:

What would you let Gurm do to your body, if you'd get to read a new GoT book?

Nothing. At this point, I'm sure the show will do a better job of finishing the story.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

OhYeah posted:

I don't know, the show is progressing much faster and drifting farther from the books than I would've expected. I think this pretty much confirms the TV authors have no faith in Gurm getting WoW out before march 2015.

Even if Winds comes out before season five starts, the show is a sure thing to pass the books. Here is how I project it to play out on the show.

Season 5 - Feast/Dance

Season 6 - Winds

Season 7 - Winds/Dream

Season 8 - Dream

So, even if GURM has TWoW out by season 5 (lol), that only gives him 2 years to complete ADoS. It ain't happening. I guess the show runners could add another season of Feast/Dance, which would be as stretching it pretty thin.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

NutritiousSnack posted:

On the other hand the prequel season(s) might be likely.

I can't possibly see this happening. Why would HBO even consider it? They would have to screw with the format of their most popular show, for what? To give GURM more time to write, with no guarantee that he will even finish in time? Or, to keep the book-readers from quitting the show so they don't get spoiled? This season is already spoiling the books, and the ratings and online communities only show a very positive response so far.

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

Lord Twisted posted:

Source for this?


Edit: http://4archive.org/b/res/546377157

Unsure if these are true but... Hmm. I like it.

A thread like this is pretty easy to fake. Did that anon provide proof?

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire

Majorian posted:

You ain't got no problem, Arya. I'm on the motherfucker. Go back in there, chill them Andals out, and wait for Jaqen H'ghar who should be coming directly.

You sendin the faceless men? Sheeeit, waif, that's all you had to say!

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire
I'm a House Stark flaying motherfucker, motherfucker!

mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire
People ITT talking about real life genetics, please stop. GURM has established his own retarded rules of genetics. The fact that it was literally impossible for Robert Baratheon to have a child with light hair was a huge plot point. Real genetics talk can :getout:

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mkay0
Nov 7, 2003

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher
2010, watch it go to fire
Yeah, the colors of clothes sure are important

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