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SpaceMost posted:There was a lot I didn't like about the fourth book, but the one part I loved was not having to read Daenerys chapters. Although now that she might actually have an impact on the other 90% of the plot, maybe it wont be so bad. I basically just skip Daenerys chapters and read Wiki summaries of what happens; it's so disconnected, she pisses me off, and I actually generally don't like dragons and poo poo. I'm dreading revisiting her in this book, although maybe I can tolerate her a bit more now since she's more connected now. I agree with the sentiment that Brienne chapters were irritating in the 4th book, mainly because of the stated reasons; you knew she wasn't accomplishing her quest, so it was basically her going nowhere fast. Still, however, I prefer hearing of how hosed up the world is and the fallout from the war as opposed to slaves and dragons.
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Red Cat posted:Due to the large viewership of the HBO series, this scenario is almost certainly happening right now: somewhere there is some guy who just started reading the books for the first time a few weeks back. He saw the HBO series, went to a used bookstore, and bought them all. Today, July 11, 2011, he finished A Feast for Crows and got to "Meanwhile, Back on the Wall...". He's like, "poo poo, when do I get to learn about Dany, Jon and Tyrion?" A quick Google shows that "A Dance with Dragons" comes out tomorrow -- what marvelous luck! -- so he goes to the store the next day and buys it. I literally finished book 4 last night, and laughed at the note at the end. I had to deal with the Dark Tower series wait, so I can kind of sympathize. However, the difference there is that King's auto accident and writing falling off of a cliff as a result has tempered my expectations of any long-going series. Now, I don't get as worked up for waits any more; although if it had been like 10 years ago, I'd be pissed at GRRM as well. I mean, even now, I'm not really excited; I'm actually somewhat dreading having to wade through Dany chapters again. Reading through the books for the first time in quick succession also probably makes it easier to see GRRM's "gimmicks." After a while, some of them get annoying - mainly the "this person hears accurate information that would help them out tremendously but does not believe it" and "I'll purposely make you get attached to a P.O.V. character and the moment that you do, I'll kill them or have something horrible happen to them for a nut-punch to the reader!"
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Jul 11, 2011 20:37
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Habibi posted:Never having read King I have to ask out of curiosity: his writing falling off is attriibuted to a car accident? King was at his best when he was on drugs. He wrote some truly hosed up stuff that, while pulpy, also really worked. Then he got off the drugs, and became more "mixed bag," although he still did some classics. The Dark Tower series was like his super epic planned world tying in together meta-project thing that also worked to be a window into each phase of his career. Each book reflects the author he was at the time since there are relatively large gaps in between them (for him). Then he had his car accident, which was another large turning point, and his writing changed again. He got scared by his own mortality, decided he HAD to finish the DT series, and wrote the final three books in like 3-4 years. And with his newfound perspective, he decided that everything should be minimalized, so he changed everything from epic into fizzling out on purpose. For instance, the avatar of uni...MULTIversal dischord who wanted the destruction of all universes and complete nothingness or chaos (who was several steps up from universal level Lovercraftian beings) became an old man who threw Harry Potter sneeches at the heroes in the climax of the book. And then, all the rest of his books became hugely derivate of his past stuff on top of that - he seems to have lost every idea he had and is just piecing together bits and pieces of other books. Lately, he wrote a couple of OK books, but nothing of the level he's done before - even his short stories are tame and predictable. But after DT4 and the long wait to 5, we had no idea he'd become what he did - or completely change the tone of the books/series, etc. But it did teach me to not "trust" any long running series from an author - so I don't get nearly as let down now.
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Jul 12, 2011 05:06
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Ecco the Dolphin posted:But at the same time, obviously fake death "cliffhangers" are becoming retardedly common at this point and he needs to let them go. It's a cheap and irritating device pretty much 100% of the time. Yeah, I agree with that. At this point, they're just getting on my nerves. "Tyrion is surely drowning...TILL NEXT TIME!" is just annoying me now as I know that it's just a cliffhanger that will be resolved a few chapters later. "Bran gets pushed off the wall, no wait, he's okay" worked because, while annoying, it set up a counterpoint to the Ned/Drogo deaths that worked really well by giving you an early false sense of security. In books 4 and 5, it just seems/feels like a bunch of serial cliffhangers, and has long since served its purpose (unless you just like that sort of thing).
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Aug 3, 2011 20:11
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Ecco the Dolphin posted:Didn't they spend several paragraphs explaining that it's generally not fatal in children? That was combined with "You know nothing!"
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Aug 3, 2011 20:48
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Habibi posted:I didn't get that vibe. Why is it foreshadowing that scene? I mean, everything leading up to his little 'act' could be foreshadowing, but that part at the end of the scene really suggests that he's just putting on a show of being this feeble old bastard, and for the life of me I can't figure out why they felt they should include that, since literally nothing happens (in the books, anyway) later on that could really (from what I can recall) build on him being a sprier, more active character than he appears. I don't think it's foreshadowing anything. I think it's a showrunner character touch, that makes it seem that, being in King's Landing for so long, he also is a maneuverer like all the other characters that aren't Starks, and figured out by playing old, feeble, and stupid, he could stay alive and in position for a long time. It gives his character a bit of character-development, depth and respect that he didn't really have otherwise.
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Aug 3, 2011 22:18
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Mr.Brinks posted:This looks retarded: How hard is it to draw a wolf? They're just dogs - why do those things look nothing like wolves, but instead some kind of goofy badger-thing? Darko fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Aug 4, 2011 |
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Aug 4, 2011 14:59
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eXXon posted:They're direwolves, dude. Not just ordinary dogs. And wolves are dogs and if you draw a wolf, you just draw a slightly sleeker, long snouted dog, not a little capybara. Unless "dire" means "rodent."
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Aug 4, 2011 16:23
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Argali posted:I think Littlefinger is underestimating her. I suspect that Cersei has been fairly broken over a number of events - losing Jamie, losing Joffrey, losing her position of power in King's Landing, then the Shaven Walk of Shame - but she is also a person capable of harboring and harnessing tremendous amounts of hatred. She's been drinking deep for some time now. I don't think she's going to slink off into the shadows now because she's been shown to be a saggy middle-aged woman underneath all the finery. What does any of that matter? She still has more cunning and more balls than half the men playing the Game of Thrones. Given that Littlefinger directly manipulated half of Cersei's movies and actually had a problem with OVERESTIMATING her, and her (or her kid) being even stupider about some things than even he expected, I think you have it backwards.
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Aug 8, 2011 21:15
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Technically, a Varys/Littlefinger POV would suffice to clear up 50% of the missing/not-yet-revealed plot threads, with everything else being handled through plot.
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Aug 9, 2011 19:13
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Unzip and Attack posted:In the original TV show thread, I made this exact point and was shouted down by people who called me a bigot. Nevermind that I insisted their relationship was actually really well written in my opinion - the fact that I wanted it to be more subtle and a gradual reveal rather than BJs and slurp sounds meant that I hate gay people and want them all to stay in the closet. Every character exposition that was provided via POV thoughts in the book is given with a stand in whore or sitting in bed in the show. Since Renly is gay, he had to give his thoughts with his boyfriend instead.
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Aug 23, 2011 15:24
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hellbastard posted:I'm starting to wonder if Rickon is like the youngest daughter in 'Family Matters' who one day walked up the stairs to her bedroom and was never seen or mentioned ever again. So he'll show up years later as a male prostitute (since she went into porn)?
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Aug 30, 2011 16:00
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Rustybear posted:That's what everyone wants to happen, but every character grrm writes screams there are no real good guys and no happy endings. I thought everyone hated Dany pretty much two books ago and want her to fail, but the dragons to get apportioned to fan favorite characters. People hate her story now, not because of a Ned "want the good guy to succeed" but because it's ridiculously disconnected and boring. Not many 20+ year old males want to read about stupid teenage crushes and watch a teenage girl gently caress stuff up, especially while it takes away pages from more interesting things, and on top of that, now she's pulling other characters that were normally focusing on more interesting stuff into her nonsense.
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Sep 20, 2011 15:48
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Junkenstein posted:They're allowed to do that between seasons, I think. I believe Rarity makes a post describing all the adaptation changes and choices, although some stuff (like The Tower of Joy scene) is off-limits for whatever reason. They might work Tower of Joy in later on, to be fair. I really don't understand why people don't read the books, though. I love reading, especially when in bed or on the toilet. Fantasy is easy to read - what's the problem there?
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Jun 4, 2013 21:23
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TK-42-1 posted:I don't think they're doing a good enough job illustrating Cersei's fall into mental illness and alcoholism. I think they've mentioned the wine once in Margaery's quips. Her actions don't fit with someone who is still in control of themselves and so the acting seems stilted and doesn't really fit. Cersei isn't going to be as crazy on the show as she is in the books. In fact, it looks like part of the issue may be that Littlefinger comes and helps her screw up.
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May 4, 2015 20:58
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When I met Kit he looked like he was 5'4 or something, so I cant imagine how short Clarke is, in comparison.
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Apr 15, 2019 06:40
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hobbesmaster posted:Google says Kit is 5’ 8 and Emilia Clarke is 5’ 2” Eh, listings are often not accurate. My 5'3 ex snuck this pic of him; hes really tiny. 
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^^^What kid of soundbar/audio setup do you have? I'm in a high ceiling loft and had to focus my speakers and soundbar and still have issues due to the 15ft ceilings, and am having no issues with it. I'm enjoying HotD and feel that Rings is a slog. I know this is the book forum, but HotD is just so much better at telling things visually. Like, the hunt in the last episode was an excellent way to explain 3 years of development and where characters are, and only half was done qith dialogue and exposition, while the rest was done with visual language. Rings is just too much talking and exposition, where ita nit using its medium and just making me rather read it if it's all going to be text anyway. Darko fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Sep 6, 2022 |
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