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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The Book Barn > ASoIaF: A Song of Ice and Fire: George Rail Road Martin
 
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Xae
Jan 19, 2005

NecroMonster posted:

Jon's problem wasn't making bad decisions. It was making good decisions while surrounded by people who thought they where bad decisions.

He probably should have done something to explain the real purpose of the Nights Watch to his unloyal brothers, he probably should have kept some of his friends close. But, Jon was making a lot of good decisions regarding fighting the Nights Watch's real foes.

Effectively, he screwed himself over by doing the right thing. But, unlike Ned, not doing the right thing would have actually screwed things over at least as hard.

I think Roose Bolton had a hand in the mutiny. Bowen Marsh was the leader of one of the forts, and Roose could have reached out to him with promises of aid and wildling killing. Then he sends a letter to Jon Snow with a mix of truth and lies, truth about the singers and Mance, but lies about defeating Stannis. He is hoping that Jon is just easily maniupated as Robb, which turns out to be correct. In truth he is being sieged and things are going badly, he is hoping that the Watch attack Melisandre or the Queen and force Stannis to withdraw.

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Xae
Jan 19, 2005

 If Ashara is Lenore then Ned was probably knee deep in the conspiracy. If I remember correctly after the ToJ he want to Starfall, where the Dayne's live shortly before Ashara jumped into the Sea. Did he meet the young Aegon there and realize there was still two claimants to the throne and help arrange them to be hidden?

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