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TheMostFrench posted:Is it weird that I'm excited that this game could really work well on consoles? It was developed mainly for consoles. The PC version was subcontracted out to a well known 3rd party. I think Tecman epxlains this better, somewhere in that massive (wonderful) OP.
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poptart_fairy posted:
This is just one of the many reasons to love Deus Ex. You can do something 20 times, convinced it's the right way to do it, then on the 21st playthrough, you figure something out like this that changes everything all over again.
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Jul 20, 2011 15:34
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TheMostFrench posted:Is it weird that I'm excited that this game could really work well on consoles? I really want this game to reach alot of people, and hopefully push future boundaries for design at other studios, as well for Eidos Montreal. As long as the pc version feels at home on the pc I'm happy, and from what I know/have seen of nixus they are very good at it.
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Jul 20, 2011 15:35
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Zedd posted:Not at all, 'the people saying that is should be PC only or something are not called pc-gamers, they are called elitist douchebags. PC version of Deus Ex doesn't feel console-y in any way, so I've got nothing to complain about. 
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Jul 20, 2011 15:37
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TheMostFrench posted:Is it weird that I'm excited that this game could really work well on consoles? I really want this game to reach alot of people, and hopefully push future boundaries for design at other studios, as well for Eidos Montreal. Not at all. I'd also love it if this game was really successful and caused other, larger companies to realize that maybe games that aren't brain dead corridor shooters with instant shoot-duck-heal-shoot gameplay can be successful, too.
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Jul 20, 2011 15:38
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Yeah, small touches like typing in passwords ( ) rather than selecting them shows the PC isn't just an afterthought. The game does feel as it was made and ported with genuine love behind it.
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Jul 20, 2011 15:40
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poptart_fairy posted:Yeah, small touches like typing in passwords ( Indeed. I wish that you could type passcodes on door locks with your numpad instead of clicking on them though.
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Jul 20, 2011 15:43
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You can. Is your numlock on?
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Jul 20, 2011 15:45
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Pretentious Turtle posted:You can. Is your numlock on? You can? I feel stupid now. My Numlock LED is broken so it might as well have been off. Edit: At least now I've got a reason to play through the leak again.
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Jul 20, 2011 15:56
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I'm an Aussie and got the GMG offer for 28$ (thanks for the voucher offer) - Looking forward to this, hope the code works and the extra content drama gets worked out.
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Jul 20, 2011 16:02
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r1ngwthszzors posted:Tec man, that's some dedication. I do think it reflects how Deus Ex has so much coverage in the media though. I don't think there is a boring level in the leak. The levels are expansive and have multiple routes to take to complete objectives. Not to mention there is a lot of ways to creatively alter the environment to get places, like stacking boxes and so on. There is a mini-sidequest at Sarif HQ with a lot of level crawling that you gotta a little more perceptive than usual to complete. Generally you can tell pretty early on if there is bad level design. Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jul 20, 2011 |
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Jul 20, 2011 16:57
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Nelson Mandingo posted:I don't think there is a boring level in the leak. The levels are expansive and have multiple routes to take to complete objectives. Not to mention there is a lot of ways to creatively alter the environment to get places, like stacking boxes and so on. There is a mini-sidequest at Sarif HQ with a lot of level crawling that you gotta a little more perceptive than usual to complete. It's really awesome how you can re-enact the Terminator if you want, and you can get augs that pretty much let you do that, just take people's fire while mowing them down with no recoil. Needs some 80s style music.
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Jul 20, 2011 17:03
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Who has played with the highlights turned off? i figured the highlighting would become invisible as I played, but I noticed that I was constantly looking for glowing objects. Playing it again without was much more rewarding and immersive. It felt kind of like locating objects was a part of the challenge, and the visual clues aren't too subtle either.
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Jul 20, 2011 21:56
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I turned them straight off - along with the objective markers - and find them annoying if they do get turned on. They're distracting to me. 
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Poppleganger posted:Who has played with the highlights turned off? i figured the highlighting would become invisible as I played, but I noticed that I was constantly looking for glowing objects. Playing it again without was much more rewarding and immersive. It felt kind of like locating objects was a part of the challenge, and the visual clues aren't too subtle either. I played with out it. I could not stand everything being neon yellow.
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Jul 20, 2011 22:02
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I did notice that the highlights were a lot less visible when you're the one playing the game, but I do like playing it better with them off. Like poptart fairy said, it makes finding things more rewarding and the game is more immersive that way.
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Jul 20, 2011 22:08
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I prefer to turn the highlighting off as well. Another chapter comes to an end, by the way. The last issue (#6/6) of the Deus Ex comic is out today. And, well...  It's the worst one so far, at least in my opinion - just pure action cheese, some forced drama I didn't care about one bit, no substance... aside from one reveal that's probably a game-related spoiler. Good riddance. Once I find some time I'll make an updated version of "themanyfacesofadamjensen". Also, we should get to hear some cool stuff tomorrow, just to remind people: quote:The World of 2027 in Deus Ex: Human Revolution: The Line Between Science and Fiction Tecman fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Jul 20, 2011 |
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Jul 20, 2011 22:44
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Tecman posted:I prefer to turn the highlighting off as well. It isn't easy screwing up the face of a single character that much in a single comic. I especially like the one where he turned into a dumpy 50-year old when he was holding a gun.
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Jul 20, 2011 22:47
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evilmiera posted:It isn't easy screwing up the face of a single character that much in a single comic. I especially like the one where he turned into a dumpy 50-year old when he was holding a gun.
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Jul 20, 2011 23:01
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So, coming from someone who can't play the leak (I'm on a Mac), what, besides just unlocking the computer for access, can you get or do during the hacking minigame? I see several nodes that don't make immediate sense and I don't think it was ever explained.
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Jul 20, 2011 23:15
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I guess they figure if he looks mad enough all the time they don't need to draw him with the same face. It probably frees the artist up to copy from various stock images.
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Jul 21, 2011 00:47
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Speedball posted:So, coming from someone who can't play the leak (I'm on a Mac), what, besides just unlocking the computer for access, can you get or do during the hacking minigame? I see several nodes that don't make immediate sense and I don't think it was ever explained. The extra nodes give you rewards like xp, hacking tools(nuke, stop worm, etc), and money.
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Gamesguy posted:The extra nodes give you rewards like xp, hacking tools(nuke, stop worm, etc), and money. IIRC The nodes are labeled: Registry: this is where you start Directory: these are like blank stepping stones Bridge: these are the things that make it multidirectional or one way Function: these can be all sorts including "transfer"ing node strength, reducing all nodes strength ("clearance"), "soften" weakens adjacent nodes, I believe there is a "spam" as well that delays the trace, though I could be wrong Datastore: as you said gives xp or hacking tools PosSibley fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Jul 21, 2011 |
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Jul 21, 2011 02:33
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The different functional nodes confused me a little, since the I dont think the in game hacking tutorial expanded on them at all, but they were kind of self explanatory.
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Hey Tecman, I know you're pretty into the various channels regarding this game; what's the best way you can think of to complain about that incredibly racist character (that we know about) to maybe get it cut or rerecorded for the final product? It might be too late now, but I'd honestly feel neglectful if I didn't try.
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Pharmaskittle posted:Hey Tecman, I know you're pretty into the various channels regarding this game; what's the best way you can think of to complain about that incredibly racist character (that we know about) to maybe get it cut or rerecorded for the final product? It might be too late now, but I'd honestly feel neglectful if I didn't try. Tong is a good character! Just because you don't like the dialogue and voice acting isn't a reason to get rid of it.
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Jul 21, 2011 10:40
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Am I just bad, or are most level 2 hacking minigames extremely hard? After a while I just said gently caress it and bought those auto-unlocker-things.
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Professor Latency posted:Am I just bad, or are most level 2 hacking minigames extremely hard? After a while I just said gently caress it and bought those auto-unlocker-things. I wouldn't say most, but I ran into at least a couple that seemed to be impossible (without using a virus I didn't have)
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Jul 21, 2011 10:53
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You're supposed to have support augs upgraded as well.
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Probably already been posted, but what do you guys think about this? Personally I feel like it kinda makes the direction that they're going with Sarif kinda obvious.
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Jul 21, 2011 11:03
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DemonNick posted:Probably already been posted, but what do you guys think about this? Personally I feel like it kinda makes the direction that they're going with Sarif kinda obvious. That was pretty awesome, and if you strip off the super-obvious conspiracy layer it is eerie close to how real life humans would react to "playing god"
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I hope the game's nowhere near as ham-fisted as that video. I don't really see the whole morale dilemma of letting people with missing limbs walk or use their arms again even if it does make them functionally stronger than someone with their original body-parts. The drug part of it is the only really seedy part. I hope the game doesn't go down the route of a heavy-handed message about augmentation and how it's evil or something like that.
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Jul 21, 2011 11:16
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If augmentations on the level of HR, let alone DX1 exist the religious shitstorm will be immense.
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In the leak it's made clear that most augmentation is voluntary, you find homeless people who have chronic conditions that would benefit from augs but can't afford them, or who have lost their jobs because they refuse to be augmented. On top of that, everyone who gets augmented suffers from rejection, which causes neurological damage and death and the only treatment is a drug that causes dementia and psychosis. So it's not as black and white as that.
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Jblade posted:I hope the game's nowhere near as ham-fisted as that video. I don't really see the whole morale dilemma of letting people with missing limbs walk or use their arms again even if it does make them functionally stronger than someone with their original body-parts. Not having played the leak, Surely there has to be an element of Rich/Poor divide to the outrage? Oh great, Rupert Murdoch gets all the money and power and now he gets awesome robot egs too!
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DemonNick posted:Probably already been posted, but what do you guys think about this? Personally I feel like it kinda makes the direction that they're going with Sarif kinda obvious. The end of the video mentions 'We've hacked their site' If you go to https://www.sarifindustries.com surfing around a bit should bring up a similar hacking interface to in game, and you can unlock a few images with information about Jensen's more questionable augs.
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Just preordered for 19GBP/22€/$30 on Greenmangaming. Hope they don't gently caress me over, but people say it's legit. This is my referral link which credits us both with 5 pounds of store credit. If you feel hustled by referral stuff, remove the ?gmgr line. Then, at checkout, apply FACEB-JULY3-20PEC as your voucher code. Oh, for clarification, this gives you a key to register with Steam, so there really is no reason to pay the Steamish 50€. acidreflux fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Jul 22, 2011 |
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Jblade posted:I hope the game's nowhere near as ham-fisted as that video. I don't really see the whole morale dilemma of letting people with missing limbs walk or use their arms again even if it does make them functionally stronger than someone with their original body-parts. Even apart from the drugs the fact that you're surrendering your limbs for a product thats going to be out of date in 2 years, and solidly obsolete by the time nanotech rolls out is worrying. Sorry you cant get the 2028 model, you have the wrong types of holes drilled into your spine. I mean, think what kind of extended warrenty deal you'd have to get on your eye augs, the rest of your life? Whats the company's tech support like? What happens if they go under? Also, theres the fact that anyone with like, a 2/3x human strength steel arm is basically carrying a semi-concealed weapon attached to them all times, even without the optional hidden blade upgrade you could pretty easily crush someones non-augmented skull. Imagine being in a bar where some old war vets had too much to drink, the bouncer comes to escort him out and whoops, he's just put his arm through the guys face. Why bother hiring non augmented bouncers anymore? Why even let augmented people on the premises anyway? Operating your 80mph robot legs while intoxicated would be auguably just as bad as drink driving. massive spider fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Jul 21, 2011 |
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Jul 21, 2011 12:07
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Im imagining support threads on SA in the future for replacing your own hands with posts like 'It's easy! Once you try you'll wonder why you thought it was so difficult'
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I can't wait for this stuff to be real. That's why I love this universe, it's totally plausible in the near future for this exact situation to happen.
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