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Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

I'm the Tom Cruise
of Strollogy.



Housh posted:

My "Internet accounts" in macOS like Linkedin and Fb are all popping up stating the passwords are wrong. Anyone else experiencing this? I wonder if it has something to do with all the privacy policy updates across most major social media platforms. Anyways, I don't think I really use the integration that much so I might delete them unless there is an easy fix. Inputting my correct password again doesn't fix it.

Yeah I've had it too. Specifically Facebook and LinkedIn. Re-entering my password made it gently caress off though. Hadn't considered the GDPR angle causing it.

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Pivo
Aug 20, 2004



Binary Badger posted:

Not trying to defend Pivo here

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

Turbine trip
Reactor trip

I've got two questions about AppleID stuff:

Question about AppleID multi-factor authentication

Let's say we have two people, Maurice and Ada. Maurice and Ada both have an AppleID, which is multi-factor protected through their phone. They both also share a Mac, using separate user accounts, with their AppleID set up on each user's account.

Can both Maurice and Ada do multi-factor authentication through that shared Mac, or will the Mac only work with one or the other? (I am assuming that the access codes for Ada would not appear if Maurice was logged in, and vice-versa.)

Question about email aliases
I have a fairly old AppleID (I think I set it up around 2009) and when I did I set up an @icloud/@me email address, as well as aliases. Do new AppleIDs support email aliases? I thought I heard someone say that you could only set up aliases with much older @me addresses. (I think that this isn't the case and you can still add Aliases.)

Any help here would be greatly appreciated!

Three-Phase fucked around with this message at May 25, 2018 around 12:04

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Housh posted:

My "Internet accounts" in macOS like Linkedin and Fb are all popping up stating the passwords are wrong. Anyone else experiencing this? I wonder if it has something to do with all the privacy policy updates across most major social media platforms. Anyways, I don't think I really use the integration that much so I might delete them unless there is an easy fix. Inputting my correct password again doesn't fix it.

Weird, my phone is doing the same thing.

Entering the (correct) password in does nothing, it still comes up again.

~Coxy fucked around with this message at May 25, 2018 around 12:13

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010





My phones and Mac all did it the last few days. Has to be GDPR

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004



Oh gosh the first one is a doozy. Apple keeps referring to the 2FA device as a "trusted device" in the docs, not a trusted account on a device, which makes me think you can't use the same Mac for 2FA for a second user. But the Keychain is obviously per-account on macOS, all credentials are tied to the user account on macOS, so intuition would say yes 2FA is per-account on the device. Hahah, that's a really great question. I'm sorry I can't answer it at the moment, but it's a real head-scratcher. I just want to take my hat off for asking an actual complicated, nuanced question.

Over There
Jun 28, 2013



Pivo posted:

My thing will fix your problem. After you get that sorted, reorder the list (you can literally just click and drag) and it'll change the order of preference. Pretty sure that'll work out for you.

Now that you're sorted - back to Apple thread in fighting!

Didn't work still had to turn off wifi and then turn it back on

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004



Over There posted:

Didn't work still had to turn off wifi and then turn it back on

After you deleted your entire preferred networks list? Ok. Maybe the problem isn't that you're connecting to an AP you shouldn't be. It seemed like the obvious problem.

OK, can you tell me what happens when you are in the "WiFi isn't working" state? Like before you turn it off and then on again. What does Network Preferences say? Take a screenshot of that pref pane during the failure if you can. Don't worry, it's not going to give us any personal information. Just internal IP addresses and stuff. Run Terminal and do an ipconfig -all ... or is it ifconfig on UNIX? Christ I can't remember. Try both, the one with output, show us that. It'll be interesting to know if your machine is connecting but can't communicate, or if you just aren't connected at all.

Don't get me wrong, I've totally PERSONALLY experienced a hardware failure on a MBP where cycling the card made it work again, but it's just so rare I don't want to jump to conclusions. I'd rather assume for now that things are misconfigured. Let me know what you find.

Over There
Jun 28, 2013



Pivo posted:

After you deleted your entire preferred networks list? Ok. Maybe the problem isn't that you're connecting to an AP you shouldn't be. It seemed like the obvious problem.

OK, can you tell me what happens when you are in the "WiFi isn't working" state? Like before you turn it off and then on again. What does Network Preferences say? Take a screenshot of that pref pane during the failure if you can. Don't worry, it's not going to give us any personal information. Just internal IP addresses and stuff. Run Terminal and do an ipconfig -all ... or is it ifconfig on UNIX? Christ I can't remember. Try both, the one with output, show us that. It'll be interesting to know if your machine is connecting but can't communicate, or if you just aren't connected at all.

Don't get me wrong, I've totally PERSONALLY experienced a hardware failure on a MBP where cycling the card made it work again, but it's just so rare I don't want to jump to conclusions. I'd rather assume for now that things are misconfigured. Let me know what you find.

Ill have to take a screenshot after I haven't used it for a while.

Everything looks the exact same as if it was connected. It says connected, has my AP check marked, only it just won't load anything. Then once I turn the Wifi off and back on it will start loading things.

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004



Over There posted:

Ill have to take a screenshot after I haven't used it for a while.

Everything looks the exact same as if it was connected. It says connected, has my AP check marked, only it just won't load anything. Then once I turn the Wifi off and back on it will start loading things.

...................... Ok, this seems really dumb to ask in a tech forum but you sound like you're not so comfortable.... are you sure your internet isn't down? Like it's not your network. You're connected, that works fine, but you just can't get out? I mean your physical connection to the outside world. Outages do happen there. Are you sure that's not what's happening? I live in Canada and I have third-party Internet access with Rogers providing the last mile, and everyone who knows what that means knows I'm in for a load of poo poo ... and frequently I am connected fine to my AP but Rogers has hosed the last mile up and I'm just not able to connect to anything external. Have you eliminated this option?? The way I can tell when it's happening is I run a continuous ping to my router and a continuous ping to my DNS server. If the latter fails and the former doesn't, I know it's just my connection to the outside world that is down.

Again, I have had an issue where power cycling the network card on a 2014 MBP would restore network connectivity, but that was so rare no one had even seen it before. My solution was to replace the entire laptop! It could be that, but it could be something else that is a lot more likely.

BobHoward
Feb 13, 2012

The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull


Pivo posted:

cool story bro.

don't worry, I read it. I dismiss it because you're blind to all of the real world problems of APFS. You want to be the king Apple fanboy of the SomethingAwful Apple threads, go right ahead, my man. I have grey in my beard and I never liked DW or HFS and I don't agree with you. APFS is a mess. We're lucky it kinda works.

So as expected, given that you are Pivo and you're Pivoposting, you got nothing. No specific issues, just childish WAAAAAH IIIIITITSSS BORKEN@@@!!!! with a side of LOOKIT ME I'M A GENIUS FOR WARNING YOU (about nothing)

landgrabber posted:

not even mentiuoning the fact that it's a downgrade in basic use features. we had journaling for over a loving decade at this point, and now it's gone.

APFS uses a copy-on-write method for writing metadata which is equivalent to journalling without the overhead, and is also copy-on-write for data, so it's actually safer than JHFS+.

(APFS is Dominic Giampaolo's baby. He got his start in filesystems by writing a journaled FS for BeOS, years before journaled HFS+ even was a thing. He later got hired by Apple and... wait for it... added journalling to HFS+. Do you really think he'd let that slide?)

Binary Badger posted:

BTW, try Googling 'APFS fsroot tree is invalid' and you'll likely find the first major APFS showstopper; I've already run into it at least a dozen times, it showed up in HS betas but has never been fixed by Apple; one of its possible causes is from having an absolutely super old and/or huge Time Machine backup, and the only known fix is to nuke the drive from orbit (or, backup the drive and then reformat and restore.)

Now that's the stuff. Re: fixes, I haven't had much time to go through some of those results, but one of the first few I clicked suggested it's a problem that can rotate out as old local TM snapshots get deleted. The poster was kinda vague so IDK if that was something that actually worked for them or they were just supposing it might work.

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Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


BobHoward posted:

Now that's the stuff. Re: fixes, I haven't had much time to go through some of those results, but one of the first few I clicked suggested it's a problem that can rotate out as old local TM snapshots get deleted. The poster was kinda vague so IDK if that was something that actually worked for them or they were just supposing it might work.

I can tell you that in one case, I tried disabling Time Machine for this express purpose, and deleting ALL of the Time Machine local snapshots, and the issue reappeared anyway.

Guess what made it go away? Backing up, wiping the drive with the HS Boot stick, but doing a manual HFS+ format, then restoring from a CCC'd disk image. So now I've had to do this with several clients who weren't Fusion drive users.

The issue hasn't reappeared on any of the HS installs I redid on HFS+. But, just as a kicker, Apple has modded the latest 10.13.4 updater/installer so that it's impossible to select HFS+ during install using the currently published methods, they did some alias or directory trick that hides the true installer and I can't be sussed to find the time to go through the install scripts to bother figuring out.

Binary Badger fucked around with this message at May 25, 2018 around 18:51

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