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Mercurius posted:I'm not sure what type of mouse you're using but if you've got something from Logitech you can install Logi Options and it'll change the mouse acceleration to something more like Windows. I'm using the Magic Mouse that came with it, but I'm also not a fan of it, as luxurious as it feels, and might get a Logitech mouse anyway.
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12 weeks in with the 16" M1 16gb 1tb and I think the fan must be broken since it never turns on using it all day compared to my 13" 2017 i5 16gb 512gb.  Really loving the extra space but would sacrifice some battery life for lighter weight.
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Jan 10, 2022 23:37
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Keyser_Soze posted:12 weeks in with the 16" M1 16gb 1tb and I think the fan must be broken since it never turns on using it all day compared to my 13" 2017 i5 16gb 512gb. i guess it doesn’t matter now but would you seriously consider a 14-inch mode, then? seems like it’s what you want though i 100% get the draw of the big screens on the go
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spatula posted:I am trading in my 2013 MBP for $240 which isn’t much, but I accept that for the convenience of just sticking it in a box and sending it off. Thanks Apple for making that way too easy. Apparently they'll give me $70 for my dead dGPU 2011 MBP, just need to disable the dGPU so the graphics don't go crazy on boot. Probably not much less than I could get selling it for parts on ebay.
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hatty posted:I’m going to spring for 32gb just to be safe when I buy next month, worried about that swap killing the SSD too quickly Swap isn't going to kill your SSD, it's actually difficult to kill a modern SSD, especially a nice Apple one.
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Jan 11, 2022 00:01
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mediaphage posted:i guess it doesn’t matter now but would you seriously consider a 14-inch mode, then? seems like it’s what you want though i 100% get the draw of the big screens on the go I definitely pondered the 14" but just went for the 16".................it's a personal computer so not really commuting with it, and I still have the 13" MBA and an 11" iPad air for travel. If they made a lightweight 15" that would be ideal, tbh.
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Jan 11, 2022 00:26
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:I'm using the Magic Mouse that came with it, but I'm also not a fan of it, as luxurious as it feels, and might get a Logitech mouse anyway. apple has never made a good mouse, throw that thing in the nearest bin as quick as you can
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Jan 11, 2022 02:28
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chaosbreather posted:apple has never made a good mouse, throw that thing in the nearest bin as quick as you can  never
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Jan 11, 2022 02:32
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chaosbreather posted:apple has never made a good mouse, throw that thing in the nearest bin as quick as you can They made at least two. 
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Jan 11, 2022 02:33
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Bob Morales posted:They made at least two. Yeah. But you can see the puck lurking to the right, and I’m still angry about that. I remember actual clip-on plastic extenders marketed and sold to make those suck less.
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Jan 11, 2022 02:45
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Arivia posted:
So the one-button mouse wasn't even new?
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Jan 11, 2022 03:13
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What are you some kinda fancy pants who uses two buttons? What is this, Windows?
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Jan 11, 2022 03:20
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*slowly scrolls through a clarisworks document by repeatedly clicking the down arrow on the scrollbar*
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Jan 11, 2022 03:28
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Hasturtium posted:Yeah. But you can see the puck lurking to the right, and I’m still angry about that. I remember actual clip-on plastic extenders marketed and sold to make those suck less.
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Jan 11, 2022 04:36
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I doubt even Ive could have sold reducing a longstanding 2-button mouse to one.
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Jan 11, 2022 04:42
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Bob Morales posted:They made at least two. Did you mean to attach an image of them there, because all i see is Angles McCrampFace, from when they thought that having a sharp angle right in the middle of the mouse would be ergonomic perfection that could only be surpassed by limiting the click surface to a tiny postage stamp thus allowing users to translate the neck pain they felt trying to look into their tiny computer's screens into their fingers. And then the one that Logitech made for them in a fit of pity, that was still somehow pretty miserable and unreliable. And there's the fuckpuck, the unorientable hand cramp itself, truly the worst thing Apple has ever made. It's a curse, really. It's said Steve hit a witches' pet mouse in his car after a particularly gruelling one, and the witch cursed him and his progeny to always be the enemy of all mice. And here we are, decades later, and there are two different System Preference panes for controlling trackpads and mice, each with their own differently phrased checkbox for controlling scroll direction, but they still work the same preference meaning they must always be linked. Cursed.
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Jan 11, 2022 05:13
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jokes posted:So the one-button mouse wasn't even new? Nope all first party Apple mice going back to the Lisa only have one physical button
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Arivia posted:Nope all first party Apple mice going back to the Lisa only have one physical button does the Mighty Mouse have multiple internal switches, or is it one switch+touch sensitivity trickery to trigger the four ‘buttons’? also I’m just gonna say that I’ve always been kind of fond of/nostalgic for Mighty Mouse
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Jan 11, 2022 07:59
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Ok Comboomer posted:does the Mighty Mouse have multiple internal switches, or is it one switch+touch sensitivity trickery to trigger the four ‘buttons’? According to ifixit there are four switches internally so I am arguably incorrect
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Jan 11, 2022 08:04
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Arivia posted:According to ifixit there are four switches internally so I am arguably incorrect yeah, there’s one switch for the scroll ball button, one force sensor for the side squeeze trigger things, and IIRC you can feel the two mouse button switches by pressing one and then rolling the cover around to click the second
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Jan 11, 2022 08:07
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So my issue was literally just the Magic Mouse. I connected a basic Logitech mouse and it feels more or less the same as a Windows mouse, AKA what I'm used to. Now I just need a way to turn off the acceleration curve for the scroll wheel.
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Jan 11, 2022 09:29
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:Now I just need a way to turn off the acceleration curve for the scroll wheel. https://mos.caldis.me/
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chaosbreather posted:Did you mean to attach an image of them there, because all i see is Angles McCrampFace, from when they thought that having a sharp angle right in the middle of the mouse would be ergonomic perfection that could only be surpassed by limiting the click surface to a tiny postage stamp thus allowing users to translate the neck pain they felt trying to look into their tiny computer's screens into their fingers. And then the one that Logitech made for them in a fit of pity, that was still somehow pretty miserable and unreliable. Point of order, that tiny postage-stamp button was a pretty big ergonomic leap forward compared to previous mice, like the Lisa  Or all the contemporary non-Apple ones where the buttons were just tiny little nubs like on a remote control. That postage stamp was huge for its day. Making the entire top surface a button was some pretty  poo poo for 1991 or whenever it was the rounded one dropped
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Jan 11, 2022 12:28
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Data Graham posted:Point of order, that tiny postage-stamp button was a pretty big ergonomic leap forward compared to previous mice, like the Lisa Point away, it only demonstrates how truly hopeless Apple has always been at making mice and they have yet to make a single one that can’t be described as a health hazard. While yes there have been worse mice than Apple mice there has never been an acceptable Apple mouse and so it remains by far their single worst product category. At this point I can only assume it’s tradition
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Jan 11, 2022 12:41
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Their trackpads are the greatest ever so If I need a mouse I whip out my Logitech whatever bluetooth
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There is one Apple mouse that feels good in your hands. But since it doesn't have a wheel or a second button, it's functionally obsolete. But even when it was contemporary twenty-ish years ago I always used a Microsoft or Logitech mouse with four or more buttons. As far as dome keyboards go the matching black Pro Keyboard is really good, but the replacements (the white keyboards) never felt as good and looked uglier too. kefkafloyd fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Jan 11, 2022 |
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kefkafloyd posted:There is one Apple mouse that feels good in your hands. But since it doesn't have a wheel or a second button, it's functionally obsolete. But even when it was contemporary twenty-ish years ago I always used a Microsoft or Logitech mouse with four or more buttons. The tracking on these pieces of encased poo poo are also unbelievably terrible. I had to edit a short film on one of these fuckers and holy gently caress. They sure look cool though provided you don’t touch them, once again demonstrating how Apple’s mouse team doesn’t seem to know what mice or even hands do or are.
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Jan 11, 2022 15:06
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The "alien egg attached to the Mother Brain's lair ceiling" aesthetic Jobs latched on to around 1999 was wild as hell
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There were no good mice on this earth until kärna LLC blessed us with the Boomslang.
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kefkafloyd posted:There is one Apple mouse that feels good in your hands. But since it doesn't have a wheel or a second button, it's functionally obsolete. But even when it was contemporary twenty-ish years ago I always used a Microsoft or Logitech mouse with four or more buttons. You forgot about the majestic nipple on the Mighty Mouse 
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FCKGW posted:You forgot about the majestic nipple on the Mighty Mouse I didn’t forget about it, I just didn’t like it as much as the black Pro mouse, because the nipple is a bad alternative to a wheel, its right click behavior is stupid, and I didn’t care for “squeeze this area to do something." I gave it a legit shot when I got a work iMac that came with one, but it didn’t really do anything for me and it was replaced by an MX Revo in short order. There’s no accounting for taste (or individuals’ hands) but I spent my fair share with the black Pro mice assembling tons of quarkXpress documents. I’m not saying it’s a superlative mouse, it’s that “it was adequate.” I didn’t hate it, unlike the hockey puck which I loathed (or the magic mouse). I replaced it because I wanted more buttons, not because it caused RSI or was uncomfortable to use. It was “an mouse” that most people would use without much complaint. No OEM mouse is a good mouse though, including Apple’s. I have all of Apple’s ADB and USB mice along with ones from various other makes (NeXT, Sun workstations, Dell, DEC) and with the exception of the NeXT ADB mouse, none of them are particularly good or special. I don’t think Microsoft actually made a “good” mouse until 1993 and even then they didn't make a truly great one until the first Intellimouse Explorer. They've also intentionally designed some really terrible mice too, though I will grant that the Wireless Intellimouse Explorer was probably my favorite mouse shape of all time.
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Do Apple mice still have the problem where if you rest your fingers on the mouse while not clicking, you can’t do a right click? So to right click you need to lift both fingers and only click with your right finger.
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I can't stand Apple mices or third party mices plugged into apple devices. The internal and external trackpads are where they put real effort in and are a pleasure to use.
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crazysim posted:I can't stand Apple mices or third party mices plugged into apple devices. The internal and external trackpads are where they put real effort in and are a pleasure to use. My mind is still blown by the haptic engine. The trackpads don’t move but our meatbag sensory systems are so easy to fool…
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movax posted:My mind is still blown by the haptic engine. The trackpads don’t move but our meatbag sensory systems are so easy to fool… It's truly wild you can adjust how firm the clickiness feels. I sometimes use it, but I sometimes prefer tap to click as the unintended input rejection logic Apple has is simply sublime.
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Jan 11, 2022 19:56
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Mice are for boomers. Trackball with rotation wheel on the right, Magic Trackpad on the left of your mechanical keyboard you built yourself.
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LionArcher posted:Mice are for boomers. Trackball with rotation wheel on the right, Magic Trackpad on the left of your mechanical keyboard you built yourself. Without the Magic Trackpad this sounds exactly like the peripheral setup plugged into a Gentoo install running i3. The keyboard is Colemak.
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LionArcher posted:Mice are for boomers. Trackball with rotation wheel on the right, Magic Trackpad on the left of your mechanical keyboard you built yourself. i know it's technically possible but i'd hate to play FPSes on a trackball. games and some stuff like drawing is why I can't get rid of a mouse.
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LionArcher posted:Mice are for boomers. Trackball with rotation wheel on the right, Magic Trackpad on the left of your mechanical keyboard you built yourself. i keep my trackpad on the right and my leftie ergo mouse on the left
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carry on then posted:*slowly scrolls through a clarisworks document by repeatedly clicking the down arrow on the scrollbar*  Most/all the Apple mice seem to be made with fingertip grip in mind, they're too low or small to feel right/comfortable with other holds. The puck was like the ultimate gently caress you to any other style of holding a mouse.
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