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duodenum
Sep 18, 2005

I wanted to start fresh when I went from an M1 MBA to this M4 MBP, so I connected them with a thunderbolt cable and was able to dragon drop files and folders between them. Like drag from the MBA's screen across through the edge and appear on the MBP's screen to drop wherever the files were headed. It was ridiculously fast file transferring, too.

I guess I could have also browsed one Mac from the other within a finder window but wouldn't be as fancy.

duodenum fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Apr 10, 2025

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Skeezy
Jul 3, 2007

Dragon Drop

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

Skeezy posted:

Dragon Drop

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Yeah there’s some really neat file transfer UI stuff in macOS. I bought an M4 Max Studio to replace my M1 Max Studio and now use the old Studio as a file/other server

Remoted into the old Mac with the default screen sharing app, which is just, like, VNC, but you can also just drag files into the screen sharing app and drop them into the remote Mac and it transfers them painlessly, I think even to the folder you have pulled up on the remote Mac’s Finder window. It’s pretty cool

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007

Venerado, intrepido, y lagomorfo periodista de primera clase

Last Chance posted:

Yeah there’s some really neat file transfer UI stuff in macOS. I bought an M4 Max Studio to replace my M1 Max Studio and now use the old Studio as a file/other server

smart, always keep your porn off of your main work machine

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

trilobite terror posted:

smart, always keep your porn off of your main work machine

Splinter
Jul 4, 2003
Cowabunga!

Beve Stuscemi posted:

Related, can you choose what apps to bring over? I’m going from an intel MBP to the M4 Air and I want to migrate some stuff but not everything.

I have literally never used the apple migration assistant before, so my apologies if this is like the first screen you get to or something

I looked into it and I believe the answer is no. It's either all the applications or none. You also have the option to select user home folders, "other files" and system/network settings. But as duodenum mentioned, I found with the Macs connected via Thunderbolt you can just mount the old Mac via Target Disk Mode. I'll probably go that route rather than using Migration Assistant (or at least only use MA for my home folder).

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
apple does it best but outside of occasionally doing it on new ios devices i don't trust anybodys migration tools to do a better job than starting fresh (if that isn't too much work in the moment)

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Yeah, I think thats what I'm going to do. All of my data is in the cloud, so it will really just be a matter of installing some apps

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Beve Stuscemi posted:

Is Apples online order tracker generally accurate? Or does it pick a further out date to be safe? My M4MBA is supposed to arrive at my local Apple store on Apr 17th, but its already shipping to store. Should I expect it early, or is the date quoted pretty accurate generally?

Sorry, this is just me getting excited to try out the new MBA

To answer this question, I ordered the MBA on 4/4, it was supposed to deliver on 4/17 and then moved to 4/15, but actually delivered today, 4/11.

So 7 days. YMMV

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

I would like a small affordable robot with a camera that could stay docked that I could sent around if I was concerned about something in the house
I don't really know where to put this, anyone used a Magic Trackpad with the Bootcamp drivers?

I have a 1st gen Magic Trackpad laying around, I really like using trackpads and I want to use on my work computer. It paired fine but scrolling and I think maybe double click doesn't work? I know scrolling doesn't. I don't want to ask IT to install the Bootcamp drivers if it is going to be poo poo, but I'm pretty certain they will install them if I ask. Just don't want to waste the ask on something pointless.

As long as I can two finger scroll, double click and adjust the cursor speed I don't really care if pinch to zoom and other gestures work. I guess the same question on the Magic Keyboard? If volume controls and mute work, I might take it to work too.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Three Olives posted:

I don't really know where to put this, anyone used a Magic Trackpad with the Bootcamp drivers?

I have a 1st gen Magic Trackpad laying around, I really like using trackpads and I want to use on my work computer. It paired fine but scrolling and I think maybe double click doesn't work? I know scrolling doesn't. I don't want to ask IT to install the Bootcamp drivers if it is going to be poo poo, but I'm pretty certain they will install them if I ask. Just don't want to waste the ask on something pointless.

As long as I can two finger scroll, double click and adjust the cursor speed I don't really care if pinch to zoom and other gestures work. I guess the same question on the Magic Keyboard? If volume controls and mute work, I might take it to work too.

well, i used it on my macbook (to be clear i do mean the standalone) with windows years ago. i will say it sucked compared to mac perf but i get the appeal of wanting to use what you got around

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

I would like a small affordable robot with a camera that could stay docked that I could sent around if I was concerned about something in the house

mediaphage posted:

well, i used it on my macbook (to be clear i do mean the standalone) with windows years ago. i will say it sucked compared to mac perf but i get the appeal of wanting to use what you got around

I understand that there are now some decent Windows trackpads, "decent" apparently means comparable to a Magic Trackpad and there is no way my employer is going to approve an expensive touchpad because it is my preference. They will probably install drivers for my old one though.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Three Olives posted:

I understand that there are now some decent Windows trackpads, "decent" apparently means comparable to a Magic Trackpad and there is no way my employer is going to approve an expensive touchpad because it is my preference. They will probably install drivers for my old one though.

just out of curiosity in the current setup is there any difference in performance between bluetooth and just shoving a lightning cord in there

i mean there shouldn’t be but who knows how windows reads old tech

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Trying to fix a friend’s NuggetBook (2017 12 inch Retina Core M3)



Recovery mode attempts to internet install Catalina, but Apple took their Catalina servers offline

Internet Recovery wants to install Monterey, but doesn’t see the main partition, only a 2GB recovery partition

USB recovery, same thing

Disk Utilities can’t find a main partition

Any ideas?

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Steve Yun posted:

Trying to fix a friend’s NuggetBook (2017 12 inch Retina Core M3)



Recovery mode attempts to internet install Catalina, but Apple took their Catalina servers offline

Internet Recovery wants to install Monterey, but doesn’t see the main partition, only a 2GB recovery partition

USB recovery, same thing

Disk Utilities can’t find a main partition

Any ideas?

Grab a Ventura bootable usb media and boot from there, attempt to clear/restore any local disk. If you cannot wipe the disk there is a good chance the onboard flash is dead.

BobHoward
Feb 13, 2012




Yeah, the best hope for that machine is that it's a corrupted partition table. If a complete wipe / partition / install doesn't fix it, it'll probably need its flash chips (or whole motherboard) replaced, but that probably wouldn't be worthwhile unless the NuggetBook's owner is truly dedicated to the 12" MacBook form factor.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

I would like a small affordable robot with a camera that could stay docked that I could sent around if I was concerned about something in the house
I ran into a kind of similar issue with my M1 Mini, I was about to completely give up and buy a new one before making a last ditch effort and booted it in target disk mode, it then let me completely nuke the drive with an external disk utility, something it wouldn't let me do in recovery mode and it was able to successfully recover.

I can't remember exactly what was going on but corrupted partition table sounds about right, I seem to remember the internal disk utility not being able to completely wipe the partition table but disk utility in target mode was.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007

Venerado, intrepido, y lagomorfo periodista de primera clase

Three Olives posted:

I ran into a kind of similar issue with my M1 Mini, I was about to completely give up and buy a new one before making a last ditch effort and booted it in target disk mode, it then let me completely nuke the drive with an external disk utility, something it wouldn't let me do in recovery mode and it was able to successfully recover.

I can't remember exactly what was going on but corrupted partition table sounds about right, I seem to remember the internal disk utility not being able to completely wipe the partition table but disk utility in target mode was.

M1 mini can only run like—what? Two displays? Surprised you find that tolerable

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

I would like a small affordable robot with a camera that could stay docked that I could sent around if I was concerned about something in the house

trilobite terror posted:

M1 mini can only run like—what? Two displays? Surprised you find that tolerable



DisplayLink, but I would be lying if I said I hadn't thought about upgrading for built-in support for the third display.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007

Venerado, intrepido, y lagomorfo periodista de primera clase

Three Olives posted:



DisplayLink, but I would be lying if I said I hadn't thought about upgrading for built-in support for the third display.

Mac Studio will run something like 8 or 12 displays—plus with 512gb of shared RAM you can finally self-host a decent AI to give your digital assistant some personality

reach for the stars BB, we know you got money

scott zoloft
Dec 7, 2015

yeah same

Steve Yun posted:

Trying to fix a friend’s NuggetBook (2017 12 inch Retina Core M3)



Recovery mode attempts to internet install Catalina, but Apple took their Catalina servers offline

Internet Recovery wants to install Monterey, but doesn’t see the main partition, only a 2GB recovery partition

USB recovery, same thing

Disk Utilities can’t find a main partition

Any ideas?

You selected to show all devices under View, right?

Can you traverse the disk's filesystem from a recovery usb's rescue terminal?

If you don't need to recover anything, just wipe the disk from disk utility and repartition.

Here's a utility to grab other versions of macos from apple's servers if you want to stay on catalina. https://github.com/corpnewt/gibMacOS

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Yeah tried Show All Devices

Gonna try target disk mode next

hatty
Feb 28, 2011

Pork Pro
Apple finally accepted my MacBook trade in and they gave me the full amount despite the screen divot and a small dent on the battery cover so they're quite lax

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Anyone wanna testify for any particular usb-c multiport charger? I’m reading that they’re a minefield of lazy engineering and that often they will stop working if you plug in multiple devices

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Steve Yun posted:

Anyone wanna testify for any particular usb-c multiport charger? I’m reading that they’re a minefield of lazy engineering and that often they will stop working if you plug in multiple devices

I’ve recently purchased the anker 250w prime and it’s been working fine, the smart part it’s pretty much noise you can ignore.

https://www.anker.com/products/a2345-anker-prime-charger-250w-6-ports-ganprime?variant=43931956478102

NewFatMike
Jun 11, 2015

Steve Yun posted:

Anyone wanna testify for any particular usb-c multiport charger? I’m reading that they’re a minefield of lazy engineering and that often they will stop working if you plug in multiple devices

I got one of these and it’s great:

https://www.mophie.com/products/120w-quad-port-usb-c-usb-a-wall-adapter

It will do 120W total, and two ports are compatible with delivering 100W. The form factor is pretty great, too. I take it every time I travel.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

Steve Yun posted:

Anyone wanna testify for any particular usb-c multiport charger? I’m reading that they’re a minefield of lazy engineering and that often they will stop working if you plug in multiple devices
I have this one and...I dunno. It works but not entirely sure it's working as advertised, specifically the advertised wattages when using multiple ports. Course I thought the two USB-C ports were similarly capable this whole time so my bad there. Maybe I'll do some testing if I remember later.

Edit: just did a quick test, works as advertised! Guess I had my MBP on the second USB-C port when I was seeing it barely charging before (drops to 8.5W vs minimum 45W on the first port).

https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Gallium-Nitride-Charger-Black/dp/B0BN688W42/

In any case it has worked enough for my portable/travel needs, charging my battery (which charges my phone and watch), iPad, and MBP. And Switch docked mode, theoretically should even work for Switch 2 docked on single port usage too from what I can tell. It does pause when plugging/unplugging stuff, presumably renegotiating charge rates with everything, but guessing you more meant shoddy devices like not working at all to charge multiple devices.

japtor fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Apr 23, 2025

Splinter
Jul 4, 2003
Cowabunga!
I use this Anker one for travel: https://a.co/d/b8bjWHW

100W combined does the job for my M1 Pro MBP (or M2 Max work MBP) and phone (or 3-in-1 MagSafe). And since it can do up to 100W on either C port it can still fast charge the laptop as well as the 96W Apple charger if nothing else is plugged in while being significantly more compact.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Good lord trustworthy usbc chargers are expensive

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Steve Yun posted:

Good lord trustworthy usbc chargers are expensive

The alternative is getting the downstream devices fried so I wouldn’t cheap out too much.

There are plenty of YouTube channels specialized in USB chargers, like @AllThingsOnePlace , if you want to find a compromise between getting your house torched and :10bux:.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007

Venerado, intrepido, y lagomorfo periodista de primera clase
Anker and mophie are pretty much the inexpensive standards. You can get something pretty solid that will handle a MacBook Pro in use + a phone or tablet, etc. for like $20-60

Depends on whether you want power, size/portability, plugs/power strip, etc.

Anker stuff is much much cheaper on Amazon if you have prime than on the Anker site IIRC. There’s a big Anker sale on Amazon right now. Not sure if they’re price matching on their own site

Splinter
Jul 4, 2003
Cowabunga!
Yeah if you want something compact, GaN based chargers tend to be smaller for their output/features, but you pay a premium for it

japtor
Oct 28, 2005
Seems to be reasonable amount of stuff around $50 for 100W, $30-40 for ~65W, including some GaN ones even. I guess pricey if you're comparing to like super cheap USB-A ones or something, but still not too bad considering the power output and the price of stuff you'd be connecting that'd need that power.

Speaking of which, got any specifics on use case scenario? Like what devices and if it's fixed or for travel, or any specific qualities you're looking for.

Malt
Jan 5, 2013
Anyone able to recommend a docking station for a MacBook?

It would be for two monitors and ideally could work with a windows laptop as well. Looking for the best bang for the buck.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007

Venerado, intrepido, y lagomorfo periodista de primera clase

Malt posted:

Anyone able to recommend a docking station for a MacBook?

It would be for two monitors and ideally could work with a windows laptop as well. Looking for the best bang for the buck.

Do you already have the MacBook/windows laptop? What connection protocol (Tbolt 3/4/5, usb 3/4, etc) do they have?

Malt
Jan 5, 2013

trilobite terror posted:

Do you already have the MacBook/windows laptop? What connection protocol (Tbolt 3/4/5, usb 3/4, etc) do they have?

MacBook is TB5 and the windows laptop is TB4. Thanks!

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

Malt posted:

Anyone able to recommend a docking station for a MacBook?

It would be for two monitors and ideally could work with a windows laptop as well. Looking for the best bang for the buck.
I was gonna say a USB one for bang for the buck, but for multi monitor off a single port I think you still need TB. Cheapest things I can find are TB hubs for about $100, with only USB-C/TB ports. If you want DP/HDMI ports you'll probably have to pay $150-200 on the lower end of hubs/docks, up to like $300 or more for the newer/fancier ones.

And which MB do you have/how much power do you need? I see some stuff advertise 60W but you'll want one of the higher wattage ones for like a power hungrier MBP.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Man, coming from a 2015 i7 MacBook Pro, the M1Pro MacBook Pro is really nice

Davinci Resolve video exports (multiple HD layers) that would’ve taken me 4 hours is now taking 10 minutes

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SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Malt posted:

Anyone able to recommend a docking station for a MacBook?

It would be for two monitors and ideally could work with a windows laptop as well. Looking for the best bang for the buck.

Check very carefully that your choice of dock DOESN'T rely exclusively on MST for the video output as all of those dual monitor docks rely on windows to work. Getting a dual display dock that reliably works on both windows and Mac is kinda hard. I have a old thunderbolt mini dock from caldigit that works on both OS but it lacks power pass thru(and it tends to have issues with its usb ports) so I wouldn’t suggest it to be honest.

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