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Cool, thanks. If anyone sees a dummy with a keyboard sticking out of a shopping bag later today, honk.
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Are the old mid-2012 Magsafe chargers known for dying really quickly or something? My current one just started refusing to work unless I bend it around a bunch or something, and this is like the second or third time I've had to replace a charger because of this exact problem. They barely last a year and a half. I might just have to get a new laptop soon. This one's pretty old. 
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Jun 20, 2017 00:39
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Pollyanna posted:Are the old mid-2012 Magsafe chargers known for dying really quickly or something? My current one just started refusing to work unless I bend it around a bunch or something, and this is like the second or third time I've had to replace a charger because of this exact problem. They barely last a year and a half. Still using my original one with no issues.
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Luceo posted:Still using my original one with no issues. Hmm. Strange. I blame my cat - he has a habit of chewing on it  I still can't tell if it's the charger or the laptop that's wigging out here, but I'm willing to bet it's the charger. I'll have to buy a new one.edit: Reading the reviews, people have pretty negative experiences with these chargers. Check it out: https://www.apple.com/shop/reviews/MC461LL/A/apple-60w-magsafe-power-adapter-for-macbook-and-13-inch-macbook-pro It's pretty clear that they changed the design/build quality at some point, and the newer ones are shittier. I'll just have to save up for a newer, refurbished laptop unless the non-OEM chargers are any good. Are they? Pollyanna fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Jun 20, 2017 |
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Jun 20, 2017 02:07
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Pollyanna posted:unless the non-OEM chargers are any good. Are they?
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Pollyanna posted:I'll just have to save up for a newer, refurbished laptop unless the non-OEM chargers are any good. Are they? They do cool things like spark and get hot http://www.righto.com/2016/03/counterfeit-macbook-charger-teardown.html
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Jun 20, 2017 02:53
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Didn't think so. gently caress that poo poo, then.
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Jun 20, 2017 02:53
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Almost all the reviews for things like chargers are going to be people who are mad that they broke theirs and have to replace it, because almost nobody else buys a laptop charger. The reviews for Mac laptop chargers have therefore been terrible for as long as the website has had user reviews.
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Jun 20, 2017 10:55
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I've had my Magsafe charger for 5 years now and it's still going strong. I also don't have a cat
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Jun 20, 2017 11:04
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Linguica posted:I already love viewing a 4K youtube video in Chrome and having my 2015 MBP fan spin up from decoding VP9 and I am excited for it to start happening more and more often. Chrome is poo poo on Mac
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Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:Chrome is poo poo on Mac You can't watch youtube videos in 4K on Safari, though: https://9to5mac.com/2017/01/12/youtube%E2%80%A4com-no-longer-supports-4k-video-playback-in-safari/
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Jun 20, 2017 15:06
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I had to replace the MagSafe charger that came with my late 2013 Macbook Pro just recently after the cable frayed and broke off at the edge, which is okay with me because I live in a house with 3 dogs and a cat. Plus I'm not gentle with my electronics, so it's totally my fault. Only $50 to replace it at the Apple Store wasn't bad. I'm going to miss MagSafe so much when I switch to a new Macbook. While it's a very good idea to use standardized USB-C for charging, losing MagSafe is the worst. 
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Jun 20, 2017 15:23
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Twerk from Home posted:Well, I'm pretty disappointed by intel only added support for HEVC in skylake so i'd hesitate to blame apple in this regard. same with 4k youtube; hardware support for the vp9 codec that goog uses to penny pinch bandwidth costs was only added in skylake. it killing your battery and turning your computer, as with all pre-skylake laptops, into a stuttery mess is why safari doesn't support vp9 or 4k youtube.
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Generic Monk posted:intel only added support for HEVC in skylake so i'd hesitate to blame apple in this regard. same with 4k youtube; hardware support for the vp9 codec that goog uses to penny pinch bandwidth costs was only added in skylake. it killing your battery and turning your computer, as with all pre-skylake laptops, into a stuttery mess is why safari doesn't support vp9 or 4k youtube. No, I'll still blame Apple: if they'd get their head out of their rear end and make amends with nVidia, then they could be using Maxwell- and Pascal- based GPUs with full hardware acceleration for VP9. I think part of the bigger issue is that VP9 was developed by Google and we know how the Apple-Google relationship goes...
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SourKraut posted:No, I'll still blame Apple: if they'd get their head out of their rear end and make amends with nVidia, then they could be using Maxwell- and Pascal- based GPUs with full hardware acceleration for VP9. I think part of the bigger issue is that VP9 was developed by Google and we know how the Apple-Google relationship goes... I agree with this sentiment. Pascal GPUs have absolutely insane performance per watt, and they could be putting in very low power usage, high performance GPUs into MBPs.
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Twerk from Home posted:I agree with this sentiment. Pascal GPUs have absolutely insane performance per watt, and they could be putting in very low power usage, high performance GPUs into MBPs.
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Jun 20, 2017 16:07
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If you have to wiggle your magsafe charger around to get a connection it's probably because the contacts are dirty.
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cowofwar posted:If you have to wiggle your magsafe charger around to get a connection it's probably because the contacts are dirty. I've only done this after wiggling it slightly along the cord further down the road caused my MBP to completely shut off. It's weird as hell and makes me a bit afraid that it might blow up or something.
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Jun 20, 2017 16:40
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Cingulate posted:So what's keeping them? Apple had trouble with broken Nvidia GPU solder joints a while ago, many suspect that it's sour grapes because of Nvidia not covering the repair costs.
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eames posted:Apple had trouble with broken Nvidia GPU solder joints a while ago, many suspect that it's sour grapes because of Nvidia not covering the repair costs. AMD paid for the 2011 MacBook Pro failures? They went back to NVIDIA in 2012-14 and then back to AMD in 2015
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Twerk from Home posted:I agree with this sentiment. Pascal GPUs have absolutely insane performance per watt, and they could be putting in very low power usage, high performance GPUs into MBPs. ...otherwise I’d guess they just go with whoever provides them the best deal while meeting whatever minimum requirements.
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They have the GT 1030 now which runs at 30w but I don't think that's really a "mobile" part.
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Jun 20, 2017 22:04
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I will not buy any more non-Retina MacBooks. I will not buy any more non-Retina MacBooks. I will not buy any more non-Retina MacBooks. I mean it this time
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japtor posted:Have they come out with any super low power chips? Best I could find was that nVidia targets under 100w for mobile and some random guy on Reddit saying the 1060 mobile was 60w. Meanwhile I think the AMD mobile parts target 35w. "Super low power"? No. But they did come out with Max-Q at Computex, which is essentially a combination of new thermal management methodologies/design approaches, and specific binning of chips to hit a certain target power threshold. The initial "release" of Max-Q was focused on utilizing desktop chipset1080, 1070, and 1060, but there's no reason they couldn't push lower also, and there definitely would have been opportunity for nVidia and Apple to tailor Max-Q for the rMBPs. Ultimately neither company needs the other, but with how bad AMD's GPU offerings have been lately, it's definitely a worse situation for Apple than it is nVidia. But again, Apple doesn't care so meh.
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As I understand it the top GPU in the new iMac is basically a slightly underclocked RX580, which... actually seems reasonable? I mean you could run just about any game on ultra with an RX580, if you set the resolution to 1080p. Many games probably even 1440p. I mean let's face it even if apple had stuck a 1080ti in there you weren't going to be playing games at 5k. I've been keen to switch to a Mac for a long time, and this is the first time it's ever seemed like it could be a reasonable option that would still allow me to play video games (even if I needed to play some of them in windows).
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The Lord Bude posted:As I understand it the top GPU in the new iMac is basically a slightly underclocked RX580, which... actually seems reasonable? I mean you could run just about any game on ultra with an RX580, if you set the resolution to 1080p. Many games probably even 1440p. I mean let's face it even if apple had stuck a 1080ti in there you weren't going to be playing games at 5k. I've been keen to switch to a Mac for a long time, and this is the first time it's ever seemed like it could be a reasonable option that would still allow me to play video games (even if I needed to play some of them in windows). You would still be dealing with outdated OpenGL or infant Metal support amongst games. Desktop GPUs have been supported in OS X for years in classic Mac Pros courtesy of nVidia's unofficial support and performance is still mediocre at best.
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SourKraut posted:You would still be dealing with outdated OpenGL or infant Metal support amongst games. Desktop GPUs have been supported in OS X for years in classic Mac Pros courtesy of nVidia's unofficial support and performance is still mediocre at best. If that's the point we're at why do any of y'all care what the GPU is in these things
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I have no idea. Boot Camp is a pain in the rear end. Just build a separate PC.
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SourKraut posted:You would still be dealing with outdated OpenGL or infant Metal support amongst games. Desktop GPUs have been supported in OS X for years in classic Mac Pros courtesy of nVidia's unofficial support and performance is still mediocre at best. I'm happy to boot into windows when needed to play a game. I don't have the space for a seperate PC.
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MrBond posted:If that's the point we're at why do any of y'all care what the GPU is in these things Macs are for working  and some of us use rendering applications that need the bare minimum of a gpu. I put the dpgu in my Mac for CAD and that's about it. And then there's the .001% that use some sort of high tech rendering that needs or they think needs more gpu power than whatever is the base.. that's where that rx580 comes in. Use a Mac gpu to scratch a kerbal space program itch once in a while at low res. Otherwise get a ps4 or desktop pc. As said before Mac bootcamp gaming is not preferable and you'll be dealing with things like drivers being out of date for months while Apple gets around to it. I can't just go onto amd.com and download the latest update to my mx370, I have to use bootcamp updater Edit: I should phrase that as somewhat large percentage of buyers who think they need a powerful gpu for work applications and the .001% who actually need it ethanol fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:Chrome is poo poo on Mac I don't get why people say this.. I got my first real Mac in 2014, but had been using OSX for some time before that with Hackintoshes. I've never had any issues with Chrome on OSX, stability or performance wise. I did try Safari for a little while because it was supposed to offer much better battery life supposedly, but Safari is so limiting compared to Chrome.
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never felt limited in any way with safari & also it works really good with keychain
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You literally get hours less battery life using chrome compare to safari.
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:never felt limited in any way with safari & also it works really good with keychain Depends on how you use it. I use multiple different devices across different platforms. Chrome is the only one that operates the same across all of them and also syncs all of my data (saved passwords, bookmarks, settings, etc..).
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stevewm posted:Depends on how you use it. I use multiple different devices across different platforms. Chrome is the only one that operates the same across all of them and also syncs all of my data (saved passwords, bookmarks, settings, etc..). i suppose chrome does fit the cross-platform use case quite well
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Chrome is fine, Safari is just awesome
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Quantum of Phallus posted:You literally get hours less battery life using chrome compare to safari. Guess I have low expectations... Get between 5-7 hours on a 3 year old rMBP with 90% battery health, depending on type of browsing, which I consider more than adequate.
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If you have a dgpu, chrome turns it on, very annoying
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ethanol posted:Macs are for working This makes sense to me, and AFAICT an RX580 ought to be perfectly sufficient for this on a mac. It's the people complaining about how the Mac drivers are bad for gaming or some such nonsense that I'm not really on board with. For better or worse iOS and tvOS are the apple gaming platforms. yeah slow boot camp drivers are another case where I think Macs make subpar gaming PCs unfortunately How often does apple update the drivers in boot camp after the first release?
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