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movax
Aug 30, 2008



Stolen for OP! Thanks movax!

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movax
Aug 30, 2008



Space Racist posted:

Fresh new OS, hardware, and new discussion threads to boot. Today is a good day.

Those new 11" Airs are sexy as hell. I wonder how well Lion would run on 2 GBs, though.

I wouldn't do it...as you have a few tabs open in Safari with Flash in action, you're going to start swapping. Granted, it's a SSD that has swap but I think everyone should get 4GB if possible. It's worth it.

Re: i5 and i7, the only differences for the MBAs are clock speed and L2 cache. I don't think you would notice the difference outside of synthetic benchmarks, or if you pay very close attention to the duration of MATLAB / video encoding operations. It's not like the desktop differentiation where some i5s do not have HT; both the ULV i5s and i7s have HT.

Of course, since it is HT, it'll only really come in handy for floating-point heavy ops.

e: ^^ it's true, my 2010 has the 2.67 i7 w/ HT and Nehalem just gets owned by Sandy Bridge. Technology!

movax
Aug 30, 2008



Bodhi Tea posted:

Do you guys think the 11" MBA screen sufficient for coding?

Depends on the IDE, IMHO. TextMate/Fraise + Terminal doing some scripting, no problem. Running Visual Studio or XCode or Eclipse or someshit,

movax
Aug 30, 2008



KidDynamite posted:

SO would the new base 13" air be able to handle xcode? Cause gently caress if I don't want to return my 13" MBP

Easily, just don't be surprised if OSX starts swapping. 1440x900 is probably the lowest resolution I'd ever use XCode at.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



KidDynamite posted:

What do you mean by "swapping"?

Once you run out of physical RAM, the OS will start hitting the swapfile which is stored on your HDD/SSD. Less of an issue (hopefully) with a SSD versus a physical HDD.

You can open up Activity Monitor and look at the 'Page Out' statistic near the bottom. That number never goes above 0 for me unless I have a ton of apps running + VMWare (8GB RAM).

e: ^ yeah, I don't know how much swapping will matter on a SSD. Still slower than RAM, but hopefully not grossly so. I'll wait for a trip report from someone who buys one and kicks up a Win7 VM w/ 2GB + a "standard" workload of like Safari, Skim, maybe Word.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



fishmech posted:

I'm on my phone and Apple's site was loading extremely slow. That's more RAM than I expected it to use though, so sticking with 2 gb looks like an even worse idea.

Yeah, I mentioned that in the last thread, getting a new MBA with Lion and 2GB of RAM and immediately dropping to 1.7GB usable is the height of madness. I don't think Apple should have even offered a 2GB option knowing drat well that user experience will suck.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



So I rebooted my MBP for the first time in ages, took an Activity Monitor screenshot to check RAM usage:



This was with Safari w/ 6 tabs or so, Mail, Word and IM. I don't think that's too out-of-line for what a 11" MBA might be doing, but 2GB seems borderline.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



MacBook Air teardown is up as well! Apple has good taste, I used the same USB hub IC and BlueTooth IC in my most recent mobo design.

Wanted to see a 2GB 11" teardown, to see if they just had open pads for more chips, or if they just used less dense ICs. I guess I need to make a trip out to the Fruit Stand and get like 50 tabs open in Safari or something to see how well it copes with swapping on the SSD. I counted 16 ICs on the board, so for 4GB, that's 2Gbit a piece. I don't remember how many chips are on your average 4GB SO-DIMM, 8?

movax fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Jul 22, 2011

movax
Aug 30, 2008



flavor posted:

I'd really love to be proven wrong, but for all I have been able to find out, these all just work in one direction from Mini-DP out to whatever, i.e. if you have a computer that has Mini-DP output (Mac or some PCs whose graphics card have Mini-DP out), then you can connect those to displays that take VGA/HDMI etc. as input. It doesn't work in the other direction, so you will still not be able to connect your PC with VGA/HDMI output to a Cinema/Thunderbolt display using those cables.

You are correct, each of the Monoprice adapters has the following sentence

quote:

This device is not Bidirectional. It can only connect a Mini-DisplayPort source to an VGA/DVI/HDMI display. It will not work in reverse.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



Was at the Fruit Stand today, opened a ton of tabs in Safari w/ sites + every app that was on it, only dropped to like 400MB free RAM still, didn't swap. I think I may get one now...glossy coming from matte will suck, but there's no other choice, really.

Now to just decide between 128GB and 256GB SSD. I need to find some drive benchmarks somewhere, I wonder if they behave like SandForce drives where performance goes way up when you increase the number of flash dies.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



hotsauce posted:

The Air's screen isn't matte, but it does have some sort of anti-glare coating that actually works well.

Think of it as in-between matte and glossy.

Ah yeah, it wasn't too bad in the store, I guess it's because of that coating then.

Now I just need to check some benchmarks on the 128GB SSD vs 256GB SSD (if it's like Sandforce drives where the number of flash die/channel can have a huge effect on IOPS) and I think I will pick one up.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



Doc Faustus posted:

Anti-glare vs. Regular screens: It's no big secret that the MPB screens are basically mirrors. Is the Anti-glare screen just a "regular" laptop screen, then, or does it still have the glass front? I like the glass just for the ease in keeping it clean (I assume), but the glare is pretty severe. There's no local fruitstand where I can see them side-by-side, sadly.

Come on bro, I put this in the OP

Anti-glare is a regular screen, no glossy coating. It will not have a glass screen, it will have a metal aluminum bezel. Glossy has a glossy coating, really vivid and "popping" colors, and has the fingerprint-magnet black bezel w/ glass screen.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



Doc Faustus posted:

So assuming the glossy screen is usuable at home/in the library, a Hi-Res 15" MBP is in my future!

Hi-res bros Totally worth the upgrade, it's a pretty screen.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



jfreder posted:

Any opinions on the 13" vs 11" Air?

I bought the base model 13" but for the same cost I can get an 11" with the 1.8Ghz i7. That combined with the faster SSD in the 11s (the benchmarks I've seen show a 25% increase in read speed for the Samsung SSD) it seems that the 11" could see some not-insignificant performance increase over the base 13. The extra portability is a big plus, however I enjoy the extra resolution on the 13 and the bigger battery. I imagine most of the time I'm at home, though, I'll be plugged into an external monitor so I'm unsure about the benefit of the bigger screen is kinda lost at that point. Decisions decisions.

I think you should absolutely get the 13". 1440x900 @ 13" is usable, 1280x800 @ 11" gets too close to your run-of-the-mill netbook.

Personally I'd get the 13" 128GB MBA, no upgrades. That fucker already meets or exceeds the performance of my 2010 2.66GHz i5 MBP.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



dissss posted:

The 11" is 1366x768, just like any other netbook and personally I don't think you'd want anything higher at such a small screen size.

IMO its the 13 and 15" MBP that are looking really weak as far as resolution goes, the 15" especially is so close to being a desktop replacement in most other regards.

Ooops, yeah I guess that isn't terrible in the 11" size. I totally agree that the 13" and 15" have poo poo resolution options though (stock at least). I went for the high-res upgrade on my 15" MBP and it's pretty. I think 13" MBP ought to stock @ 1440x900 or at least offer an upgrade option to that resolution. And matte and glossy options! Are you listening Steve? Pretty please Do what you will with the GPUs and optical drives, just think about screens too!

e: while I'm dreaming might as well ask for IPS too

movax
Aug 30, 2008



flyboi posted:

Ideally and realistically are two different things. The resolution on the 15" is fine, I can read it but I could not imagine a 1920x1200 panel as I would have to jack up the text size to even be able to read anything. My eyes aren't horrible, I wear glasses but the prescription is minimal and moot.

I had a 15.4" laptop from work with a 1920x1200 panel (Dell Precision), and in retrospect, that resolution was only really good when I was coding/debugging on the go; back then () all I had was XP DPI scaling so just surfing the internet or something was somewhat stressful on my eyes.

I think 1680x1050 on 15" is a pretty sweet spot; both Windows 7 and OS X are usable and readable at that resolution without going cross-eyed. In the 13" arena, I saw a 1600x900 panel on some super-portable VAIO which I thought was pushing it a bit, but the 1440x900 panels at that size were pretty awesome.

Mr Chips posted:

While it makes sense to replace ieee1394 with thunderbolt for your high speed peripherals, I can't see how it makes any sense as an ethernet replacement.

When/if Thunderbolt ICs come down in price, we'll probably see a lot of "docking stations" crop up. Thunderbolt is essentially analogous to the docking connectors you'd find on the bottom of Lattitudes; you can throw any PCI Express device on the other side of the link, keeping in mind the x4 link to the Mac.

i.e:
GigE Controller / FW800 Controller / USB 3.0 controller / eSATA controller -> PCIe Switch -> Thunderbolt IC -> Cable -> MacBook

Should be able to make it for less than $150 or so.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



Bob Morales posted:

There's the gig aftermarket adapter.

What interface does it use? USB 2.0 and FW800 are both (theoretically) slower than Gigabit Ethernet, and the Airs of course do not sport ExpressCard slots. Or is there a Thunderbolt GigE adapter that costs like $150 out already?

movax
Aug 30, 2008



Bob Morales posted:

USB 2.0

It's not going to reach full speeds of gig e but not all networks will anyway. It's still faster than the 100mb version.

Ah yeah, I'd totally use one of those over my Wi-Fi when flinging large files around. The Apple one is like $50, I'd probably try to find a 3rd party one that uses some Realtek/Broadcom chipset that are found in the Macs. Or, if the Intel kext is anything like the Linux/Windows one, something in the 827xx family.

I think the latest refresh of all Macs uses Intel ethernet now (since the chipset has a free MAC)?

movax
Aug 30, 2008



jfreder posted:

Anyone have any luck with Mini DisplayPort/Thunderbolt to HDMI adapters? I have a cable from the Apple store that cost $45 but wouldn't mind grabbing something for $5-$10 off of Amazon if they actually work.

Look at the Monoprice adapters linked in the OP, it should get the job done for you. I don't recall if they pass audio or not, however.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



Electric Bugaloo posted:

I wonder what that means for the MBP's glass cover on the glossy screens. While I'm no fan of glare, I really like the vibrancy of the glossy's colors and the convenience of an easily wipeable glass front. Also, presumably quad-core Ivy Bridge CPUs and high-power discrete GPUs in an ultrathin? Don't current MBPs already have a problem with heat management with big heatsinks and two fans?...Not to mention, putting in one of those proprietary SSD cards (or any SSD, really) with a capacity to rival the 500gb HDDs in current MBPs is impossible if they want to keep pricing remotely consistent for most buyers.

There's always the possibility that the MBP line will bifurcate into Ultraportable and high-performance desktop replacement lines but that seems terribly un-Apple. My best bet is on an expansion of the MBA brand with 15" and 17" options and an Optical-less, slightly thinner MBP- possibly like the original Air that came with a HDD.

As long as battery life doesn't suffer because they have cut the size of the thing to fit, I'll be happy. It's unlikely anyways seeing as the power consumption would drop anyways going to an Air-like formfactor, but if I vaguely remember one of Anand's graphs, the 15" MBP gets better life than the 13" Air (both 2011) simply because it has more room for a bigger battery.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



Boris the Blade posted:

AnandTech MacBook Air review is up.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4528/...1-13inch-review

Very good review. This jumped out at me:

Anand posted:

The Thunderbolt port can also function as a miniDP output which works as expected on the Air. UI performance is ok on a 27-inch Cinema Display driven by a MacBook Air despite the lack of a dedicated high speed frame buffer. The biggest issue is that firing up Mission Control or swiping between Spaces is met with a significantly reduced frame rate. If you're going to be using a high resolution external panel regularly, you might want to consider a MacBook Pro with a lot of dedicated video memory.

Interested to hear some reports from goons who've hooked up their Airs to an external display.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



SourKraut posted:

I have a friend who is thinking of picking up a 13" MBP for school, and I've been able to answer most questions, but they asked about whether the i5 is sufficient (they're a architectural major, so it'd probably be stuff like AutoCad, etc.), or if they should pay extra for the i7.

I see that the i7 Turbos up higher, is slightly-faster in terms of the HD3000 on-board graphics, and has some features (I'm guessing they wouldn't use) such as AES-NI and such. Is the i7 worth the upgrade cost?

I'd tell him to get the 13" Air, simply because it has a much, much better screen (1440x900 in 13" vs. 1280x800 in 13") that will pay off for apps like AutoCAD. The i5 in the 13" MBA should more than enough.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



KidDynamite posted:

Not much. He probably will not be using AutoCAD much in fact. Considering they pay drafters to do that poo poo in the first place.

I'd still suggest the Air (unless he wants to game) simply because it has a better screen and 1280x800 @ 13" blows nuts, IMHO. It's only $100 more than the cheapest 13" MBP.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



Someone was asking about the i7 battery life on the MBA:

quote:

anandshimpi: .@nixtweet doing battery life testing on the 11-inch i7 now, expect an update in the coming days

Anand's got us covered, so that should answer the last question, what is the battery life like on the MBA with the i7 upgrade.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



BlackMK4 posted:

Hmm... refurb 13" MBP or Lenovo X220 with SSD, IPS screen, and 9cell battery.

X220, I think you can even add a little mSATA SSD if you so desired. The 13" has horsepower, yeah, but that screen...goddammit Apple.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



SERIOUS posted:

3) Wait til tomorrow, call Customer Service again to get the Customer Relations person, and have them basically poke that particular Genius Bar with a stick until they finish my computer.

This has the greatest chance of getting your particular Apple Store yelled at / something done about your subpar service.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



AlphaDog posted:

Ah, thanks guys, didn't realise there was a software thread, my eyes kind of skip over "mac" automatically since I never really use them.

That sucks about the trackpad. It's the one thing I'd really like to have (I won't rant, but not writing Windows drivers for hardware you'd have to buy anyway just seems very petty. I just want the scroll/click/zoom/drag functionality and the nice feeling surface).

QuickTime likely installed some components that VLC may have needed to split/decode files properly, but AFAIK, VLC is designed to be pure 100% standalone and not depend on external filters if it can help it.

And yeah, the trackpad is pretty , I love the thing.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



evensevenone posted:

Thunderbolt doesn't offer PCIe x16 though does it? I thought it was just x1. That would kind of limit the video card performance.

It's x4, Generation 2 (for now) which is effectively 2GB/s bi-directional (500MB/s per lane). To compare, a x16 Gen 2.0 slot delivers 8GB/s, and a x8 Gen 2 delivers 8GB/s.

Now we know that Ivy Bridge will upgrade the CPU PCIe controller to the 3.0 standard. Assuming it can be broken into x8/x4/x4 or something, and the TB controller gets updated and copper can handle the increased speed, you'd see a theoretical 4GB/s in each direction, equivalent to a Gen 1 x16 slot.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



SpoonsForThought posted:

So if I'm reading this right, which I'm really not sure if I am, x4 should be fine even for high-end cards?

What they proved there was that performance was capping out due to the GPU itself, and not a bottleneck in getting data between the CPU and GPU. This might not always be the case, but those are some fairly interesting results with the cards they tested.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



fleshweasel posted:

why did you buy so much ram

Swapping is for scrubs

movax
Aug 30, 2008



Scienter posted:

Last Thursday it was delivered and unboxed; arrived in perfect condition. It's been good times since with zero regrets. First Mac and best first impression of any computer purchase I've ever made. Many thanks to this thread for helping me wait for the right model and making the right decision.

We accept payment/rewards in Apple hardware. Go ahead and mail a 13" MBA to me and we'll call it even

Seriously though, enjoy! What SSD did you get with yours, out of curiosity? (Look at the drive model from System Profile, would be SM256 for a Samsung, IIRC).

movax
Aug 30, 2008



Boris the Blade posted:

I'm torn between picking up the 13" MBA or waiting to see what Apple does with the MBP.

I'm replacing my primary and only computer, a dying 5 year old ThinkPad T60. The GPU fan is shot and I figured rather than trying to get it replaced, I would just put that money towards a new computer. My girlfriend has been nice enough to let me use her computer in the meantime.

My only concern with the MBA is the lack of upgradeability, but by that same token I've only upgraded my ThinkPad once and that was to bring it to 4GB of RAM.

I've read the reviews around the web and posts on here and they all seem to be glowing.

Help me make a decision SA!

If you don't care about heavy gaming, aren't doing heavy VM stuff then I would absolutely go for it. The CPU/RAM performance alone is enough to dominate "normal" tasks like web browsing, e-mail, etc for a long time in the future, at least until the next Flash ruins the Internet even more. And is my usual posting style in this thread, the 13" MBP screen blows, the resolution on the MBA is just right for the screen size. If you do want a 15", be sure to get the high-res upgrade.

Slight derail on CPUS: Ever since the Core 2 Duo/dual core A64s, CPUs are really shining in terms of getting poo poo done faster (video encoding, etc.) or pushing games further (looking at you GTA4/Crysis 2), but they haven't really opened any new doors for us (which I'm OK with, because now we're getting more cores/threads and lower power consumption). Even the first Core 2 Duos (E6600) will handle all the MS Office / Firefox /Chrome/etc you can throw at it with decent RAM; I had one all the way up until this January. The dually-ULV i5 in the MBA outperforms the last generation Nehalem 2.66GHz chip handily, which in turn made mincemeat out of the Core 2s, all at 17W or so. Progress!

movax
Aug 30, 2008



Space Racist posted:

Has anyone tried Lion on a base 2010 11" MBA? I'm eyeing the refurbs pretty heavily for a portable secondary machine this fall, but I'm hesitant to drop $750 + tax on one if it's going to be a dog out of the gate.

2GB of RAM is unacceptable for Lion IMHO, get 4GB or don't bother.

quote:

While this isn't my first Mac, I feel exactly the same. I almost always end up with buyer's remorse for my large purchases, but my last two Macs have been absolutely perfect. I love my 27" iMac and the new 13" Air is faultless. The form factor is better than my old 15" i7 MBP, the screen resolution is still great, and I don't feel like I sacrificed much performance for my workflow (if any) going from a larger laptop with an i7 and Intel SSD to the Air's i7 and Samsung SSD. I couldn't be happier with it.

Do you actually get to use your MBA at work, or is it your personal machine, out of curiosity?

Daric posted:

So if I'm looking at getting a 15" MBP, they're going to be releasing a new one in about 6 months? I play games a little bit but my job will require that I watch a lot of tv too and so I'll be using it for that. I should probably wait, right?

Everyone is riding a wave of after the new Air launch when it comes to rumours, buy it now if you need it. I'd only start second-guessing purchasing a MBP as it approaches March of next year or so. If new ones do turn out to launch this year, you can sell it or if you're lucky return it and not be down too much money.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



Space Racist posted:

Out of curiosity, in what sense? Sandboxing in Safari would eat it up too quickly? Any other real-world scenarios?

movax posted:

So I rebooted my MBP for the first time in ages, took an Activity Monitor screenshot to check RAM usage:



This was with Safari w/ 6 tabs or so, Mail, Word and IM. I don't think that's too out-of-line for what a 11" MBA might be doing, but 2GB seems borderline.

After that post, I went to the Fruit Stand to play with the MBAs in person, a 13" MBA sat at 2GB free after a reboot, IIRC. Remember you lose 384MB to video memory too.

quote:

I'm not really needing a ton of performance out of the thing, it'd be a secondary computer to take to campus to type documents/spreadsheets, plus web browsing, email, the usual. Nothing really intensive, but ideally I'd want it to last at least 2-3 years if I'm going to drop that much money on it.
Before SSDs came around, adding RAM was the best way to extend the lifespan of an older system and this is no exception. poo poo will only get hungrier and hungrier for RAM, especially browsers once more HTML5 content starts appearing everywhere.

I'd get the 13" base Air, personally, or upgrade the 11" to 4GB for sure.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



brc64 posted:

What I need:
* Web browsing
* Some sort of Office suite (doesn't necessarily have to be Microsoft office, but I'd like to have a good word processor and spreadsheet software at minimum)
* Built in webcam for video calling
* Battery that will let me use the computer for several hours without having to worry about plugging in

Every single Apple computer will fill this needs. Even the iPad, possibly.

quote:

* Lots o' pixels (I don't care if everything looks tiny... resolution is important to me)
Discard the 13" MacBook Pro. Purchase the high-resolution upgrade if you get a 15" MacBook Pro.

quote:

What I don't care about :
* Gaming (Macs have games now? I kid, I kid... but seriously, I don't care about gaming on a laptop)
* Massive amounts of harddrive space (my work laptop has 230 GB and I'm not even using half of it).
* Size/weight (Big or small, I can handle it just fine)

What I care about even though I shouldn't:
* The casing. Basically, the plastic white MacBooks drive me crazy, and I do not want one. I loved the black ones, but it seems like they stopped making those long ago. I honestly don't care too much for the brushed metal thing, either, but I'll take it over cheap looking plastic.
Again, every single Apple computer will do here now that they're all aluminum.

quote:

That all brings me back to the specs, since I would potentially be comparing previous generation hardware to current hardware, and I still don't know how much better an i5 is over a Core 2 Duo, or whatever the options are. I know I don't need top of the line, but I'd still like it to be comfortably peppy. Are there any specs I should straight up avoid?

Get anything that is Core i5/i7, ideally something from 2011 so you pick up the benefits of the 2nd Generation Core ix architecture, also known as Sandy Bridge. Improved performance and improved power efficiency; to give you an idea the new 13" MBA with a 1.6GHz 2nd Gen. Core i7 beats my 15" 2010 MBP with a 2.66GHz 1st Gen. Core i7. Comparing apples to apples, the new 15" gets about two more hours of battery life than mine as well.

I think you either want the 13" MBA or the 15" MBP with the high-res upgrade. The 15" MBP is priced too high though IMO, and that high-res upgrade also sets you back an extra $100/$150, so if you're going that route, you'll have to look at refurbs.

A base 13" MBA brand-new from Apple is $1299.00. The 15" is at a ball-crushing 1799.00 base ()

e: looked up my order for the 2010 MBP. Fully loaded (high-res matte, fastest CPU) it was $2050, and even that was kind of steep.
e2: Don't forget the cost of AppleCare, which is cheaper for the smaller machines.

movax fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Aug 2, 2011

movax
Aug 30, 2008



brc64 posted:

This is the sort of feedback I was looking for, thanks.

I hadn't really considered the Air, because, well, I don't know. But it probably is an option worth pursuing. When looking at refurbs, I'll try to stick with the i5/i7 series. How important is it to max out RAM? Somebody mentioned earlier that 4GB should be considered a minimum for Lion. It looks like RAM is soldered into the Airs, so I wouldn't (easily?) be able to upgrade that at a later date vs a MBP.

Might have been me, I put that in every post I make about the Air. You should not pay Apple for RAM upgrades for the MBPs, you can just order RAM off newegg and do it yourself cheaper. You should pay Apple for the 4GB RAM option in machines like the Air where it isn't serviceable. Lucky for you, all but one (lowest end 11") ship with 4GB RAM already, and that's that (no 8GB option this year )

Do you have an Apple Store near you? Go try out the Air in person, you may be pleasantly surprised.

e: poo poo I kind of half answered your question. I think all the MBPs come stock with 4GB, you can upgrade that yourself to 8GB/16GB if you feel the need. It is important that you make sure your Air comes with 4GB of RAM. It's up to you to decide if you wan the i7 CPU upgrade in the Air, but that upgrade is only available in the 256GB configuration.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



Mu Zeta posted:

OSX is poo poo without SSD

Ok it's not poo poo but SSD rules pretty hard

My little brother brought over his new Air for me to install Office, etc on. I really need to get off my rear end and throw that Vertex 2 into my MBP already, it felt so slow compared to that Air.

Can you Ghost/etc HGFS partitions whilst preserving the bootloader from drive to drive like you can with PCs? I'll sacrifice the Boot Camp install for now and maybe just keep an external HDD I run VM Windows from.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



Star War Sex Parrot posted:

The latter will do the trick, but if you can get the extra $90 together, try to get a Sandy Bridge refurb. Ignore the clock speed discrepancy. The Sandy Bridge notebook is a quad-core, has double the cache, and can turbo up to 2.9GHz in single-threaded tasks. It will smoke the old Arrandale design.

For $90, I'd say it's absolutely worth it.

Absolutely get the Sandy Bridge, everything SWSP said + more battery life and a Thunderbolt port for the future.

movax
Aug 30, 2008



KidDynamite posted:



Is there any reason this thing is using swap at all? I have 8gigs of ram.

No idea, mine does the same thing. After a month or so it'll have a few megs paged out, not a big deal at all. Not familiar enough with OSX to know exactly why it would do that.

Other news, ordered an OWC Optibay for my 2010 MBP so I can toss the 500GB drive into that, and put in a SSD. You can pick any internal drive in the system to Boot Camp, correct? Thinking 250GB Windows, 250GB HGFS+ split on the physical drive.

Also, that drive should spin down and stay quiet (aka, off with little to no power draw) I think if neither of its partitions are active and mounted?

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movax
Aug 30, 2008



Hiyoshi posted:

What's so different between the 2008 iMacs and the early 2009 iMacs that would make AirDrop support difficult?

I was wondering the same thing. Bet it's related to what WLAN chipset is in use. If you're adventurous, look at the iFixit for your 2008 iMac vs. the 2009/2010, and see if the form factor of the newer WLAN cards is compatible with yours. Driver support obviously won't be an issue. Maybe even tracking down a USB WLAN adapter that uses a supported chipset and is 11n could work. I don't think you'd find the identical chip in a USB stick though as Broadcom/etc probably have silicon variants so they don't waste unnecessary $$$ implementing PCIe transceivers in a chip that is just going to be USB in the end.

sicjoke posted:

The 2008 MacBook fills the external monitor at this resolution entirely.
The 2011 MacBook Pro produces a picture on the external monitor but doesn't fill the entire screen.

No amount of screwing around on the monitor changes this. Apple themselves don't seem to be able to explain to me why a 3 year old computer is capable of driving the external monitor correctly yet my new 2011 MacBook Pro is not. I am assuming this is something to do with the lovely Intel video card in the MPB (the MacBook has an Nvidia card)

I believe that external displays are always driven by the discrete GPU, so in your case that'd be the AMD GPU in your MBP. I'm dumb there's no discrete in the 13" MBP. Is the MBP setup properly in display options to extend desktop, output 1920x1080/60Hz?

movax fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Aug 8, 2011

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