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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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dissss posted:

Question about running Windows on an Air

When people say the Windows trackpad drivers 'suck giant donkey dick' do they mean that about the Macbook trackpads under Windows, or trackpads in general under Windows? I guess what I'm asking is would the Air trackpad provide a worse experience than what I'm used to in a generic Asus Windows laptop or be comparable?

Also can anyone comment on battery life running Windows (I'm assuming because the Air only has the single graphics card it should be much of an issue)

I've found the trackpad to be marginally better than most PC trackpads on Windows (compared to leagues ahead of everything else under OS X,) if only for the size and surface. Under Windows, you don't have any gestures save for two-finger scrolling, don't have inertial scrolling, and don't have natural scrolling if you like that. If you enable two-finger right click, you can no longer drag by clicking down with one finger and moving the pointer with the other: as soon as the second finger touches the pad, here comes the context menu. You can enable a right click zone, however, which allows you to disable two finger right click and enables the dragging.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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The black dash on the front of the MBPs is the IR receiver. The LED is actually hidden by the case, which has very tiny holes drilled into it to let light through. There used to be a page on Apple.com explaining it, maybe I'll try and dig it up.

edit: Here it was, second paragraph on right. They don't mention it on the site today, though. In any case, thought it was kind of neat.

carry on then fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Aug 18, 2011

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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SourKraut posted:

When it comes to the MBPs, I think the only officially acceptable user modifications are for RAM and HDD replacement. Removing the SuperDrive, while easy, doesn't seem to count, although from past experiences I've read about, people have had different experiences at Apple stores when getting support done (some overlook it being removed, others don't, etc.).

I think the general rule should be, "if instructions for the upgrade are included in the manual, you can be sure it's covered under warranty. Everything else is unknown." For MBPs, that's RAM and HDD.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Plenty of room. I've had the 12.5mm WD in my 13" Pro for over half a year now, and it's no different than the first half a year with the stock drive. There really isn't much of a reason to worry about putting a 12.5mm in there, but now that there's a 9.5mm WD which is actually faster, you might as well go with that.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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TheChipmunk posted:

I didn't know it ups the ram on the GPU allocation as well when you go from 4GB to 8GB. How much would this help in something like Starcraft 2/Diablo 2 on a 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo? (NVIDIA GeForce 320M Graphics) Or does it even work the same on this graphics card?

The 320M does not allocate any more memory for itself when more RAM is installed. I'm not sure it would help much anyway, it's still main memory even if it's reserved for the graphics card, and I think that's the main bottleneck for integrated graphics performance.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Wired means system-needed RAM that can't be paged out to disk, active means plain-old allocated pageable RAM, and inactive means memory that used to be allocated, and that an application has unallocated, but the memory manager keeps around because the system wasn't out of memory at the time and is caching it in case the application wants it again (this is why applications launch so much faster if you start them, close them, then start them again.)

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Bob Morales posted:

Sooo what's the trick to getting my new 13" MBA to sleep while I have a monitor connected? I close the lid and it just sits there laughing at me. The sleep menu option works fine, though.

I just press CMD+OPT+Eject. They changed the lid close behavior in Lion to only shut off the internal display.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Cincle posted:

Hi my mom has a 13" macbook pro (MacBookPro 7,1 I guess?) and I know jack poo poo about Macs, but I want to help her upgrade her memory.
So, I read somewhere that I can only put 8gb of memory in this thing, but in this thread I've read about secret firware upgrades and poo poo which enable more memory or something. I don't really know where to look this poo poo up so I'm asking here, how much memory can I install on this this machine with OSX version 10.6.8? And can I just install any DDR3 notebook memory? Or do I need a special brand or something?

Thanks in advance guys!
Here's the kind of RAM that laptop takes (the highlighted part):



I'm not aware of any way to get the maximum over 8GB; some laptops do have higher maximums than Apple indicates, but not all.

Also what Bob Morales said.

carry on then fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Dec 27, 2011

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Bob Morales posted:

You can stick 8GB chips in there instead of 4GB. At least in the 2011's.

Yeah, but he has a 7,1, which is the mid-2010, and I'm fairly confident you can't in those (the 2011s also use faster memory.) I have the same and wish I could, but I just don't think it works.

Edit: Yeah, this says the 2011s have 16GB actual limit, whereas the 2010 above is 8GB only:

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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I take it the 20th Anniversary Mac is there in case you need to do some heavy processing?

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Bob Morales posted:

This is a 4-year old ultra-portable we're talking about here, so it's not that it's a huge pice of crap, it's just compared to what we have now, it's not even in the same ballpark.
  • Really slow 1.8" 4200 RPM HD. To make things worse, the SSD model was often slower.
  • Real-world battery life of only 2-3 hours (compare that to the 2010 or 2011 13")
  • No glass trackpad
  • No USB stick with the OS for recovery, you have to do that Air-disc DVD install thing from another computer
  • They run HOT
  • The CPU gets throttled down becuase of this and is often slower than the 1.4GHz chip in the 11" Air
  • Stuck with 1280x800 screen
  • 2GB RAM limit
  • Intel X3100 graphics
Don't forget at the time, it was like $2500 to get one with an SSD.
I couldn't stop snickering through the entire last Mission Impossible movie because in every scene they were using all this imaginary super technology... and a 1st gen Air.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Really? I could have sworn I saw the separate trackpad button.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Binary Badger posted:

Apple doesn't seem to publicize jumbo frame support much. It seems all MacBooks and Intel Mac Minis had/have jumbo frame capable hardware. Just checked, even my mid-2009 has jumbo frame support.

Intel iMacs had jumbo frame support from the first 2006 models up until the Mid 2009 model.

What's the purpose of jumbo frames, if you don't mind elaborating?

My mid-2010 MBP doesn't support them, by the way, at least according to the network preferences method mentioned earlier. The support seems really sporadic.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Yoshifan823 posted:

Well yeah, it has Lion on it now, but I gather that it won't if I wipe the computer and reinstall. Right?

It depends what you use, if you use the recovery partition or internet recovery, you can wipe and then immediately install Lion. You might also be able to do that with the disk image from the installer, but I'm not sure about that one.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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You Am I posted:

10.8 drops Mac from the title. 10.7 is still known as Mac OSX

It's actually been inconsistent, but on apple.com it's mostly referred to as "OS X Lion," and that's what I'd expect to be written on spec sheets for new Macs.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Rockybar posted:

At almost every lecture I go to if there's a brief shot of the speaker's desktop and it's a mac you are guaranteed that there'll be a thousand unorganised files scattered across it.

You're guaranteed for the dock to be so full of icons you can barely make out which one is the browser, and neither can they.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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ZShakespeare posted:

You're the perfect beta tester for the new thunderbolt dongle I've devised. Just plug it in for a few hours a day and nevermind the tingling sensation in your gonads.

I hope this "being mad on the internet" thing is working out for you. :)

---

I wonder if there will be any case redesigns, or if the improvements will just be internals. I know the current MBP design is going on 4 years old, but they went at least 5 years with the aluminum PowerBook case.

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Jul 10, 2010

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hedgecore posted:

All the recent reviews have basically assured me I want the retina MBP... a little bit down the line when everything's more fully baked. This might be a dumb question, but in regards to apps being updated to support larger resolutions:

Okay, so text scaling will be upgraded and rendered text will be incredibly sharp (good example on Engadget with Chrome earlier today) and gorgeous, but won't images on websites still look like poo poo, since they will be blown up?

Depending on the size of the image; if the image is full size on the page, then yes, but I think this, combined with all the mobile browsers that zoom and scale so much, more web designers will start including larger images and changing the displayed size in code, so they retain fidelity when scaled.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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CaptainMidnight posted:

That still doesn't answer the question.
Wouldn't the genius bar go wild over you.
Google search "kernel panic." That's what happened to you.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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BlueTesla posted:

Just to make sure: The old C2D MacBooks will NOT be upgradable to ML, correct?

Looks like it's Late 2008 aluminum or newer for MacBooks: http://www.apple.com/osx/specs/

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Jul 10, 2010

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BlackMK4 posted:

Is the current 13" Air or 2011 13" i5 Air faster CPU wise than a mid 2010 13" 2.4ghz C2D? I've got 8gb of ram and a SSD in this so the whole feels faster thing is moot.

Yes, the C2D is two generations behind the 2011, three behind the 2012.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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grahm posted:

My biggest fear is battery life, and I feel like that'll be the biggest improvement (that and a better graphics card) when they inevitably update it. That's also what worries me about the rumored 13-inch rMBP model. There's a lot less space in a 13-inch chassis for battery. They could get rid of dedicated graphics to try and compensate, but could integrated graphics handle a 13-inch 2560x1600 display (as well as external displays)? And would that be permissible under the "Pro" category?

The 13-inch pro already doesn't have discrete graphics; it never has. Eliminating the optical drive and platter hard drive should increase the space, and the smaller physical screen size would mean less battery. Since the HD 3000 of the last generation could run two Thunderbolt Displays (although the internal had to shut off,) the HD 4000 should be able to handle a retina 13-inch screen.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Is it normal for the battery to need a replacement after only two years? I'm planning on getting it serviced and will probably just pay for it if its normal, but I thought this seemed a bit fast. To be specific, Energy Saver is saying "replace soon," while iStat reports 331 cycles and 74% health. I do have Applecare, so if this does happen to be a manufacturing defect I should be able to get it replaced under that.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Sonic Dude posted:

I agree. Non-integrated batteries are meant to last ~300 cycles, but yours is doing pretty well. I had one that still got about 35 minutes at 1100 cycles, so it's not unheard-of to keep using them well past that point.

Basically, if it's >300 and the life is too short, that's the point that you need to buy a new one. Health meters/percentages just confirm that your instinct ("it's getting really short") is correct.

Mine's integrated (mid-2010 13"), so if that's still alright, then fine. I just noticed that it's having less and less battery available after two 75-minute class periods, but as long as it can still make it through those I think I'll hold off until it can't. Thanks!

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Jul 10, 2010

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Oneiros posted:

I don't know if this was intentional or if you just made a typo, but to be totally clear neither the Magic Mouse nor the Magic Trackpad recognize simultaneous left and right "clicks".

This is right. The answer is to get whichever would be more useful for daily use, and get a Logitech or whatever to use in games. Or just get a mouse you like and ignore the one that came with the computer.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Halloween Jack posted:

I ended up going with a 15" Macbook Pro. If I get the black Speck Satin, does it actually block visibility of the Apple logo?

Don't know about the satin, but the Incase competitor I have lets everything (including battery lights) through. Probably nothing that actually blocked the Apple logo would sell :v:

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Have you checked Console? If you can't remember the last time it panicked, just remember to check Console first thing after it comes back up from the next panic.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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chupacabraTERROR posted:

How? A new 13" retina MBP is just a retina 13" MacBook Air, which they just refreshed...

No, a 13" Retina would be 2560x1600. Might even come with discrete graphics since there'd be no optical drive.

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Jul 10, 2010

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BlackMK4 posted:

Ahhh, that would make sense then. The issue is only when I boot between the two so I guess that is it.

I've done this and it's resolved the problem for me.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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I have that very Crucial and no complaints after a month so go for it.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Gism0 posted:

Uh-Oh. My MBA (last-gen, about a year old) is reporting "Service Battery". Should I be worried?

Coconut Battery is reporting 79% capacity

Not worried. Set up an appointment an Apple store to have it looked at. That happened to me (though I have a 2010 Pro) and they ran a test that said the battery had gone bad and replaced it under AppleCare.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Gism0 posted:

Cheers, I will do. I don't have AppleCare but it's just under a year old so hopefully they'll help me anyway.

Hopefully, if it's like mine there wasn't anything dangerous happening, it was just losing max charge far faster than it should have. So if they replace it you can expect to see better battery life for longer.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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step aside posted:

I've read somewhere that the base level 27" iMac isn't exactly ideal to run a second Thunderbolt display because the 512mb video card just isn't powerful enough. Does anybody know if it be enough to run a 1600x900 second monitor though without any hitches? I realized that these days I don't really do anything more complicated than Photoshop on it so I don't necessarily an amazing amount of extra power, just enough to get by without it hanging up on me.

That iMac should be able to handle TWO thunderbolt displays alongside its built-in with no real slowdown for just desktop applications.

Just to be clear, extended desktop hasn't been an even remotely taxing feature to enable for something like 10 years now; you won't notice any slowdown in Photoshop.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Mu Zeta posted:

The Anandtech review of the 2011 Macbook Air with 27" Thunderbolt Display mentioned slowdown. That's with the HD3000 integrated though which is a pretty crap card.

How so? There's a difference between "everything runs at 15 FPS" and "opening Mission Control with 20 windows drops some frames." I just think slapping an extra 1.4 million pixels on a desktop graphics card with half a gig of memory on its own won't make the computer unusable.

EDIT: But this gets me wondering how a rMBP runs with two 30" displays on the thunderbolt ports and a 24" on the HDMI, with the built in at the 1920x1200 mode. :v:

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Survey says CS3 (ie mid-2007). Which seems par for the course, considering Office wasn't universal until 2008.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Try turning on three-finger drag.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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ZShakespeare posted:

If you don't care for three finger drag, the trick I learned was to click and hold with your thumb while dragging with your finger.

Any two fingers work well, I think (I hold down with index and drag with middle,) but the key is to use two fingers, rather than trying to both click and drag with one finger. It's one of the instances where you can tell there's some pretty robust software working with the hardware, where it can see that one touch point isn't moving so it shouldn't invoke any of the two finger gestures.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Bob Morales posted:

What do people do for Mac backups in businesses, then?

1) Give everyone a USB drive
2) 'Save your poo poo to the server dummy'
3) Use some probably-terrible 3rd party backup app
4) ?

It'd be nice if Time Machine somehow worked with generic network storage.

Looks like OS X server can appear as a valid TM backup location to its client Macs: http://www.apple.com/osx/server/features/#time-machine

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Jul 10, 2010

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jaspertron posted:

So I bought my first mac the other month, a 13 inch pro. I'm enjoying it a lot and really happy with my purchase. Lately I've been seeing a ton of people with those colorful hardshell cases. Are they really necessary? I feel like the added weight and thickness would be annoying and that a laptop made of metal would be more scratch resistant than a regular old plastic one.

Am I wrong or missing something here? Why does everyone seem to have these but me?

They allow the laptop to be used without taking the case off. I used to use one myself, but grew tired of the added bulk when using it.

Also most people don't seem to care about device size. I know more than a few people who put their iPhones into those ridiculous cases that double the thickness.

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Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

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Nut Bunnies posted:

The fact that it's the most common computer people have in the Apple Store and the fact that it's the computer I saw the most at my school.

Also the fact it's the best selling computer on Amazon, and the fact it's the best seller was frequently mentioned when the 15" was released (mostly in surprise)

It's probably due to a couple of factors: Due to the fact a lot of people have it, it's obviously going to have a word of mouth effect. It also has a much bigger hard drive, and most people looking for an entry level Mac probably have no idea what an SSD is, much less the benefits of it. The optical drive might factor in, too.

Plus it's been around longer. The good MBAs have only been out for two years, while the 13.3' aluminum MacBook/Pro has been around for twice that, and are still supported by the latest release of OS X.

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