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Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
Can anyone tell me how smooth the workflow for 1080p video editing with stabilising and light color grading (Film Convert) in FCPX would be on a 13" rMBP?

Every now and then I'm recording classical musicians for YouTube and I'm currently using an ancient copy of Premiere CS5 on a 5-year old desktop PC with an i5-2500k. Editing is reasonably smooth but rendering is a tad slow (just did a 9min h.264 1080p video that took 45 min to export). I will be travelling much more in the future and need something that does the job on the go without being too expensive and it seems that a rMBP + Final Cut is much more efficient for my needs and I would struggle getting similar performance/portability out of a Windows laptop with Premiere, plus FCPX doesn't need a monthly subscription. My audio recording software comes with a Mac license, too, and my CS5 is way too old, so there's no problem for me to switch to another OS. I'm also able to wait for the new rMBPs later this year, so it's not super urgent.

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Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

Quantum of Phallus posted:

I'd really consider a 15" for an video editing work. It's well worth the extra money. I was using FCPX for a while on a 13" and the lack of screen space is a real pain. I have a 15" rMBP (late 2013 model) now and it's like night and day.

Hm, I was afraid of that. The 15" rMBPs are just sooo ridiculously expensive here in Germany. :negative: 2200€ for a laptop is a pretty serious commitment. Also I worry a bit if the 15" models fit on a standard train folding table, which would be great. :ohdear:

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
I was hoping that the higher efficiency of FCPX compared to my old-rear end Premiere would make up for that difference, especially seeing that people on YouTube seem to be able to edit 4k in FCPX even on a 12" rMB reasonably smoothly. But yeah I really need to try it out anyway before I buy one. :)

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
^^^^^ thanks, that's valuable knowledge :)

Doesn't the dedicated GPU come only with the higher-specced 15" rMBPs? That would be almost twice the price of a 13" rMBP :ohdear:

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
^^^^^ yeah I will definitely wait anyway, but it's likely with Apple products that the prices for the older versions won't drop a lot, unfortunately.

Bob Morales posted:

True, but the $1299 13" model is a dual-core, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD machine with Integrated graphics
The $1999 15" model is a quad core, 16GB, 256GB SSD machine with slightly better integrated
The $2499 15" model is a quad core, 16GB, 512GB SSD machine with a GPU

Buy the $2499 model as a refurb IMO

Yeah I might have to do that at some point, there's fortunately still time to plan and save some money. The nasty thing is that the $2499 model actually costs $3200 in Germany. :negative:

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
How confident can I be that this Wolfe eGPU will be an actual thing that works and is useful?

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

eames posted:

I'd wait until October to see what Apple comes up with (TB3 display with built in eGPU) and whether or not they will officially support third party eGPU implementations.

Not going to back a kickstarter project anyway, more thinking about if I need a device with or without dedicated GPU.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

Entropy238 posted:

It really loving boggles my mind trying to think of someone who would actually buy that thing. I'm happy to pay the "Apple Premium" for a better OS/Software in most cases but I can't imagine a universe where that's a good buy, particularly considering it's completely unupgradable.

People who depend on Apple Software and the fastest render speeds possible without wanting to deal with potentially unreliable Hackintosh. There's obviously enough of them to justify these ridiculous prices.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

flosofl posted:

Or get a $5 dollar USB-C to phone port dongle. It's definitely not enough to drive me back to windows.

wouldn't that cause lag though? There's definitely people using Macbooks who need delay-free audio playback.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

flosofl posted:

I imagine pro-audio gear would use it as a TB3 port. My understanding is Apple will be using the ports for both USB3.1 and TB3 (but obviously not currently on the MacBooks with USB C).

I don't mean professional audio interfaces, that's no problem. I mean using just a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter to connect a headphone directly to the laptop.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
Oh deaaaar Apple really needs to release the new MBPs :negative: I'm constantly ruminating about what device/device combination to get and it doesn't get better :v:

My everyday computer life is 60% browsing, email, media consumption, 30% low-workload applications (photo and audio editing, music notation software) and 10% 1080p video editing and color grading, which I'm currently doing on an i5-2500K Windows Desktop PC, but I want to switch to MacOS and I need a laptop. I'm currently torn between buying a maxed out 15-inch rMBP for everything OR buying a 256GB 13-inch rMBP for the 90% standard tasks and increased portability + building a super fast 1000€ Hackintosh for the video editing which I then could also use as a Windows gaming machine. Both options would cost about the same and I think I would prefer the second if I wasn't so unsure about the reliability of Hackintoshs. I would have no problems tinkering around and reading tonymac for two weeks if I then had something stable, but I don't have any experience with Hackintosh at all. Suggestions?

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

1997 posted:

Yeah, it looks just like the iOS 9 wallpapers.

The new Macbooks will run iOS 9 and nothing else.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

Mordiceius posted:

Is $1300 a good price for 2015 rmbp 15" 2.2GHz, 512GB flash?

Depends. If it's broken and water is seeping out of the ports then nah, if it's new or refurb it's crazy good.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
Just ordered a refurb 256GB 15" rMBP 2015 for 1650€. :ohdear: never ever spent so much on a computer.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
Got mine too today, it's a very nice laptop! Does anyone use their 15" in 1920x1200 scaling mode? I'm tempted to because it gives you so much space but then I'm afraid it's sometimes too small to click the right buttons.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
Oh dear I'm so glad I went for a 15" rMBP. Being able to edit videos in the train is seriously neat. 1920x1200 scaling is perfectly workable and I don't even feel the need for an external monitor with that and the three finger swipe gesture. Thanks Mac thread for convincing me to get one. I already sold my Windows desktop :D

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
You can watch porn on a mac?!

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
With every click there are two vibrations on the new trackpads, four if you do a force touch. It definitely feels like a click and the fact that you can make it silent while still feeling the same is amazing. We have both a 2014 and a 2015 rMBP in my household and the newer trackpads are much better.

Force touch itself is a feature I rarely use though. There's way too little use for it.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
If I shake my 2015 15" rMBP a bit horizontally, I hear a loose part inside that makes noises as it hits something. Is that normal?

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

tuyop posted:

Yeah, that's the vibration motor.


CyberPingu posted:

No...thats not normal. It might not be serious though. If its under warranty id book a genius appointment if you are not super comfortable rooting around inside yourself

It's weird as I can't reliably reproduce it. Sometimes I lift it up and I hear the knocking sound, sometimes I don't hear it. The device works perfectly fine and I just got it last month, so I still have some time to bring it to an Apple Store just in case.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
Nah doesn't need to be shaken harshly, actually just tilting the laptop is enough for the sound to occur.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

ethanol posted:

My 2015 has always produced the knocking sound when rotated. The Apple Store said it's normal for the lid joints. I don't really notice it unless I try to make it happen

Yeah it's nothing horrible. I was just worried there's something broken since I never owned a computer that expensive before. :negative:

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
The drivers are much closer to the eardrum. Generally you shouldn't use headphones too often, even at moderate volumes, if you value your hearing.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
Is my computer broken?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9Gtv2BrhOU

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

the cpu and the memory are both under the area you are pressing on, as well as a bunch of connectors from other components covered up with soft pads. you are either hearing the case make contact with those pads or the heat sinks on the memory/cpu. its not something i would worry about tbh but i wouldn't recommend applying pressure to the area

i would use iStats or something to check CPU and RAM temperature if you feel it might be affecting performance, if they're unusually hot one of the heat sinks may have shifted out of place maybe?


BobHoward posted:

Not likely.

Take a look at the pictures in step 3 of any of iFixit's guides for your computer:

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+15-Inch+Retina+Display+Mid+2015+AirPort+Board+Replacement/55921

You're hearing some noise from the two clips that attach the center area of the bottom case to the upper case / frame. Although you can't see this in the pictures, the upper case clips can wiggle around in their mountings by about 1mm, presumably to help them self align when assembling the bottom case to the computer. This lets them make some audible noise when you do stuff like what you're doing in the video.

Some noises from these are worth taking action on. If you push on your bottom case like that and hear the tabs popping into the clips when you apply pressure, and out again when you release, you very likely have a bulging battery that should be replaced. Happened to me, took the computer to an Apple Store, got a free out of warranty battery replacement (because they regard bulging batteries within 3 years of purchase as a manufacturing defect).

However, from your video, you don't have that. The popping noise is quite audible and sharp compared to those little creaks.


Thanks for the replies! Checked system temperatures over the last day and even video rendering didn't push it above 62°C (144°F), so all is fine. Won't apply pressure to the bottom and will hope this computer will stay with me for a long time because otherwise it's amazing. There's still 2.5 years of AppleCare on it, so I should be fine anyway.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
On the other hand I know plenty of sound engineers who still use 8 year old MacBooks on 5 year old versions of OS X because any update would completely destroy hardware/driver compatibility and their use case doesn't need faster hardware. If they would buy a new laptop they would also buy a new audio interface alongside.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

tuyop posted:

Am I missing some silver bullet GarageBand alternative on windows?

Maybe Music Maker? That's supposed to be quite easy to use. :shrug:

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
I have to upload 500GB of data with my 2015 MacBook Pro, which will probably take a few weeks. Is it harmful to keep the computer running for that long while I'm out on holidays?

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
Erm what happened here??



2015 15” rMBP. I long pressed the power button, it restarted and works normally now. Do i need to be worried?

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
Don’t get a mouse, MacBooks are insanely good to operate with the trackpad and carrying around a mouse is really not necessary.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

Boris Galerkin posted:

I’m sure it’ll be as difficult as it is to get the current $50 educational discounts (read: not at all).

Anyway, what’s the cheapest non pain in the rear end way to get a MBP in Europe without paying out the rear end? A 13” nTB 8/500 costs €2000 :stare:. Going up to 16 GB RAM pushes it to €2240 :stare:.

I’d love to replace my coffee spilled MBP but god drat that’s a lot of money.

Refurb and authorised Apple vendors. Two years ago I got a 2015 15“ MacBook Pro for 1689€ with full Apple warranty, while it would have been 2249€ directly from Apple. Shop was Gravis.de, I think.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
Is it a good idea to get an old used Mac mini to use as a Time Machine, NAS and data archive? I have a Backblaze backup plan which doesn't work with an actual NAS. I don't like having to plug in all my external drives into my Macbook every few weeks in order for them to stay backed up. What's the slowest and cheapest Mac mini that would be able to deal with this task or is there a better solution?

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

AlternateAccount posted:

If I post a PDF of the technical service manual for my car, that's just as against the law as posting Apple's own IP.

Which doesn't mean that's a good thing. People should have the right to properly repair something instead of being forced to buy a new item everytime something breaks.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

Xabi posted:

My iMac is behaving stranger and stranger each day.

It started suddenly one day, when it for some reason was very slow. Even minor things got the spinning wheel going, but with some patience I could get some things done. Now, though, it's unusable. A simple reboot takes about ten minutes to complete, and as soon as I want to open a file it needs another ten minutes. Even copying stuff over to the external drive is impossible (MacOS told me that it would take 6hrs to copy 8gb of files to my external drive). I entered recovery mode to reinstall MacOS but no disks showed up when the installer asked me where I wanted to install the OS.

I'm guessing that the Fusion drive is about do die? How can I know for certain what's going on? Is it even possible without visiting an Apple Service Provider?


(things are backed up, so I'm safe there)

If something is slowly grinding to a halt in a computer it's usually a magnetic hard drive. Most other components just stop working instantly when they break.

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

Linguica posted:

I guess my point is that with Time Machine, most people only really need enough SSD to do all the activities they want to do at one particular moment, not enough to hold all the media and programs and poo poo you accumulate over the lifespan of the device.

As soon as you're doing media work (which I guess is a lot of Mac users) that approach doesn't function anymore though. If I have more than three video/photo/audio projects I'm working on at the same time I'm having massive storage issues on my 256GB SSD. It's actually a great motivator to finish a project as soon as possible so I can put it on an external HDD :v:

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
Friend of mine has issues with a 2011 13“ MBP shutting down randomly. He gave it to a repair shop and they said it’s a virus, but resetting it didn’t fix anything. Faulty battery?

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
Man, I recently built a Hackintosh that performs about as well as a mid-range iMac Pro, but it was literally 4000€ cheaper and Continuity, Airdrop and Handoff work more reliably than on my rMBP. Apple's profit margins are so ridiculous :negative:

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

MarcusSA posted:

Lol

How did you manage to integrate everything into that 5k screen?

My Z390 mainboard has a natively supported Titanridge Thunderbolt Controller, so it is no problem to run the Ultrafine 5K with a Hackintosh nowadays.

American McGay posted:

I wonder what "about as well" actually means.

It means depending on the application it is about as fast as the iMac Pro with 10 cores, Vega 56 and 64 GB Ram, sometimes a bit slower, sometimes even a bit faster because the Hackintosh doesn’t thermal throttle. That machine costs 7469 € in Germany, which is exactly 4240€ more than I paid. Assembling the computer and installing the OS took 4 hours and it’s been running flawlessly for the last 6 weeks now, so I’m pretty happy about it. :v: Long term I probably will be moving towards Premiere Pro, but my current work requires FCPX, so the Hackintosh made a lot of sense for me, especially seeing that I get the same functionality for a price that allows me to also get a better camera at the same time!

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

EL BROMANCE posted:

You’re presuming the gap isn’t a square of the last one... enjoy the 2034 Mac Mini.

The size of a match box and it gets hot enough you can actually light matches with it?

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Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

xgalaxy posted:

It’s really too bad Apple isn’t seriously considering Ryzen chips for their desktop class hardware.

Besides the problem that AMD might not be large enough to provide that many chips, they probably have contracts with Intel they can't immediately cancel.

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