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Lord above I may finally update my iMac 2010 with a lavish christmas gift from my Wife of a iMac 5k 27". (Fingers crossed, anyway.) 
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Sorry if this is the wrong place... I'm taking a stab that it's my mac and not my router/network. (I'll explain.) iphones, ipads, etc... all when running speedtest ANYWHERE in the house, I get pings of like 16. 35 down, like 15 up. My 2010 iMac was wifi but 5 feet from Airport Extreme. My pings are 212, download is fantastic at 60, upload is like 7. I made my iMac wired just now, ran again, same terrible ping, etc. I ran a ping thingy (forget what I typed now in Terminal) and my average ping to google was like 22. What gives? Why the discrepancy, and why is my iMac performing so badly here?
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Nov 7, 2014 17:49
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Kingnothing posted:You might have some custom DNS or network config settings. Is there a place I can check that?
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Nov 7, 2014 19:07
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Kingnothing posted:Wifi icon in menu bar>network settings>advanced. Thank you!  I have nothing in DNS or any of the other ones. I *do* have 2 entries in the Proxies section under "Bypass Proxy Settings for these Hosts & Domains. One of them is *.local. the other is an IP which I am uncertain if I should post here or if that even matters. Thoughts?
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Nov 7, 2014 19:44
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Bob Morales posted:Can you do a 'tracert 8.8.8.8' on your iMac (use Terminal) and cut/paste the output? You can hide the last half of the IP addresses if you want FYI it didn't like tracert but full spelling traceroute worked a peach. code:[edit] If these are legit pings, should I just assume SpeedTest.net is full of poo poo for some reason?
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Nov 7, 2014 19:58
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Guys I'm torn as to whether this goes to hardware or software, but I need help. Around the time Yosemite came out, my browsing (and possibly my ping) got really slow. REALLY slow. I have a 2011 iMac running Yosemite. After installing Yosemite I noticed (despite Apple's claims to the opposite) that Safari was super slow. (I'm talking 5 seconds of white screen, and then just basic frame and another 5 -7 seconds to load in the text and images on forums.somethingawful.com page.) When I run Speedtest.net, my ping registers anywhere from 257 to 500ms. (When I did a Traceroute to Google it was always under 30ms) I've: 1) Tested my mac on wifi and connected directly (hardwired ethernet) to my Airport Extreme. No change. 2) Plugged ethernet from iMac directly into my modem. No change. 3) Created a new network location and tested. No change. 4) Tried this per an updated Apple Support page from Nov 2014: defaults write com.apple.safari WebKitDNSPrefetchingEnabled -boolean false (to turn off DNS Prefetching.) 5) My wife's Macbook pro (not on Yosemite.) can load lightning fast webpages. Speedtest.net shows similar up and download BUT her ping is like 27. The ping thing annoys me, as I am a gamer but it may be localized to my iMac. My bigger issue that I want to resolve is why the gently caress webpages are so goddamn slow to load now. Any help/advice/suggestions/troubleshooting ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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Dec 17, 2014 17:42
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IUG posted:I had a problem with Wifi for a while after Yosemite, and bought the Ethernet adapter for my MBPr. It was dependent on which frequency the Wifi was on. I had the problems with 2.4GHz that you are describing, but not on 5.0GHz. However, some of my other devices around the house couldn't use the 5.0GHz signal, so I went to the ethernet. However, they put out an update for Yosemite that since fixed it, but it might help to try changing the broadcast range on the Wifi and see if that helps you (or check for updates). You think that would potentially resolve even though other devices on Wifi are good and my Mac(with the problem) is hard-wired ethernet?
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Dec 17, 2014 18:37
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Binary Badger posted:Also try changing the DNS addresses from blank to 8.8.8.8 or 208.67.222.222, maybe your ISP's DNS servers are on the gritz. Every other computer and device in the house has a low ping and fast page loads. I don't think this would be related to my ISP at all (because wouldn't that affect everything in my house? [or at least more than just my iMac.]) Forgive my ignorance if this is not true and I am wrong. :p
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Dec 17, 2014 18:43
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IUG posted:Oh, I didn't know you did try to hard wire it, I missed that. But yeah, for a while with Yosemite I was having problems with the wifi only on 2.4GHz, and it was resolved with 5GHz (which caused other problems on other devices). But all of this was solved with the latest OS updates, for me. Tried this. No dice. Same same. Thank though!
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Dec 17, 2014 19:13
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Bob Morales posted:Tried a clean install? Like back up my Mac to Time Machine. Fresh install of Yosemite... test network... (then eventually add my backup using migration manager after the fact?) No. I suppose that's something to try, yes.
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Dec 17, 2014 21:19
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Pivo posted:Try running a continuous ping to something like Google, or even better your router. See if you get packet loss and ping spikes. How do I run a continuous ping? Is it similar to me going to whatsmyip.org/ping/ and having it report my ping is ~60? How do I ping my router?
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Dec 17, 2014 21:50
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Bob Morales posted:Open a terminal and just type in something like Thank you both. 8.8.8.8: 50 packets. Nothing over 20ms (most under 10.) 0% loss. My router (I think): 50 packets. Nothing over 0.400ms 0% loss. Should I just assume Speedtest.net is tellin' tales? (Speedtest.net tells me sub20ms for all other devices in house.) In any case, if that's true I can stop worrying as much about ping. My BIG issue is just loving SLOOOWWWW loading webpages. I'm tempted to take a video it's so loving bad.
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Dec 17, 2014 21:59
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Pivo posted:On os x by default the ping shouldn't terminate without extra arguments. At least mine doesn't. 50 packets isn't enough. I mean run it from the problem machine continuously and monitor the output. When you feel your connection making GBS threads up, see what the output says. Im not at home or I'd be more detailed Oh so just let it run in the background for a while while I do my poo poo? ok.... ill try that.
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Dec 17, 2014 22:35
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Thank you that is great info. I will say this as my only rebuttal to that... To note when "poo poo starts loving up" isn't really possible in that sense. My internet loads slow 100% of the time on that iMac. There has not been a moment since Yosemite was installed where it wasn't like 10 - 15 seconds to load a webpage. So it's always. And my wife's Mbp is pretty much always fast. [Ed] I just ran the original ping test for 0.0.0.0 and 192.168.1.1 for 10 to 15 minutes each while loading webpages slowly the entire time and I have zero packet loss and low pings.
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Dec 17, 2014 23:27
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IUG posted:Out of curiosity, did you try another web browser as well to see if it has the same problems? Yes. Should have mentioned. Chrome... Same.
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Dec 17, 2014 23:38
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Pivo posted:
I might be a little ignorant in these matters but I don't know how to make a clean profile in Safari. Also are you guys saying I can create a Yosemite install on an external? And not mess with my current install? [Ed] sorry, I can google those two things. You guys are being super helpful. I was little confused for a moment thanks though.
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Dec 17, 2014 23:46
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I'll try both of those things. Thanks! [Ed] mini-update: obviously a fresh external install will take me more time, but I just created a new user and waited till everything had logged in and settled down and then loaded up Safari and this site, metacritic.com, gmail, yahoo, macrumors, etc. Fastest site was Yahoo at like 7 seconds but all the rest were like 15-20 seconds for first load ever. 10+ seconds on a second load. Feenix fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Dec 18, 2014 |
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Dec 18, 2014 00:01
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Yeah gently caress my pings for minute. Speedtest.net is the only place telling me I have bad pings. So let's forget about that for now. Right now my only concern is super slow browser loading. I'm installing Yosemite one external drive and will boot from that. If I still have problems the next step is to find an older OS like Mavericks where I had no problems and install that to an external and see what's up. [Edit] so I got a new installation of Yosemite onto an external hard drive and booted up. After giving it a few seconds to get everything situated I altered nothing and opened up Safari. Every single webpage I go to loads in a flash. I'm talking instantaneous gratification. So I have to assume it was either a bad installation of Yosemite, or some service or extension I have running is causing issue. I'm leaning towards bad installation, because when I logged on as a new user in my original installation of Yosemite, none of my services loaded and it was still super slow to browse. Thank you, everyone, for the help. I really appreciate it and I'm sorry if I dominated the conversation today. This is been driving me nuts for months and I'm glad to have made some traction. I guess the best question now is how do I get a good installation of Yosemite onto my machine and still import from Time Machine back up to have all of my stuff. Any thoughts? [edit2] further, even though I had stopped caring about speed test.net's ping reports, I just did a speed test on this new installation and the ping is at 30 something I have not seen at all since installing Yosemite so I guess it is all connected somehow… Feenix fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Dec 18, 2014 |
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Dec 18, 2014 01:49
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So I ended up doing a reinstall of Yosemite based on my findings for why my Safari was slow as poo poo. Turns out it kept getting stuck at the Apple/Progress Bar gray screen. (as in, I left it overnight and it was STILL stuck.) So I used some basic terminal skills and made a bootable external with Yosemite and here I am, all my stuff is still here, and short of, like, the VERY first loading of unique web-pages ever, everything is loading lightning fast AND speedtest.net is reporting 18ms pings. I fixed it. Thank you one and all for the assistance walking me through to this conclusion.
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Dec 18, 2014 18:43
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I said come in! posted:I think I might be needing to go through your steps as well. I am getting a similar problem on my 2012 13" Macbook Pro. Obviously who knows if its the same issue or not. My best solution for maximum simplicity is just to download Yosemite from App Store, copy it off. Make a bootable external, then restart, hold Option Key and then choose to install OS. My browser is running great now.
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Dec 18, 2014 20:01
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So let's say a dude like me, hypothetically, got a new iMac 5K in the coming week or two... It running in bootcamp runs more favorably the the other alternatives? [Edit] while I'm askin... Have there been any serious "Rev A / First-Gen" issues reported or discovered? ( or where would a good place for me to go that might aggregate or report on those? Feenix fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Dec 25, 2014 |
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Dec 25, 2014 23:15
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I'm about to get a 5k soon and my (very smart about this stuff) buddy informed me with my limited budget I should get the 512 SSD and basically "stay the gently caress away from fusion drives." He's never led me astray before and I don't distrust him now... just wanted to get some other thoughts from you guys. My iMac right now is 512, which is just about "tolerable" but I've got no beef with living "dat external life."
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Dec 30, 2014 02:47
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fleshweasel posted:If I were getting a 5k i would go with a big SSD just because hard drives gently caress up and fail and I don't want to go inside the drat thing. Is that saying "avoid Fusion, get the biggest SSD you can afford"? Or specifically "get a bigger SSD than 512"?
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Dec 30, 2014 03:16
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Word. Thanks.. I know it was a daft follow-up question, but I was just trying to understand why one was better than the other. So it sounds like it's just about mitigating annoyances and inconveniences down the road. Thanks!
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Dec 30, 2014 03:40
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Triglav posted:Fusion Drives were introduced when SSDs were a bit more expensive than they are now, and their SSD half is something like 128GB. I personally think 512GB is a sweet spot for SSDs, but anything above 256GB is usable. If you want 1TB, go for it; there's no reason not to other than price. Just estimate what you need and get something that leaves some overhead. As long as you're not obsessing over benchmark data, the only appreciable difference between Apple's SSDs are how much they can store. There's not really a question of SSD size beyond 512. I won't be splurging past that (for cost reasons)... I was just wondering if Fusion was measurably inferior to SSD. (In quality or reliability.)
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Dec 30, 2014 03:59
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:"Quality" is a rather subjective thing to ask about. I have a 256GB SSD + 6TB HDD Fusion setup and absolutely love that I don't have to manage my SSD. The OS generally does a great job of keeping the data I access regularly on the SSD (Lightroom catalog) while letting the other stuff slip to the HDD seamlessly. I have a huge iTunes library so I tend to get a beachball when I fire up iTunes as it reads from both the HDD and SSD, but it beats having to store the entire iTunes library on an external HDD which would give me a beachball anyway. For me the user experience of Fusion is an improvement over SSD + external. In theory the experience should be worse with an Apple 128GB SSD setup, so I suppose it all comes down to how much data you reasonably expect to want on the SSD. Thank you to everyone for input but thank you most especially to you, SWSP, for clarifying. I may very well just go with like a 1tb Fusuon or some such... [Edit] while I'm hounding y'all, my plan was get the stock 8 giblets of Memory and then buy my own. Not sure what a solid brand/model/price would be, can anyone tell me if I can do better than 32 for 600 (I assume so, but don't want to assume...) Feenix fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Dec 30, 2014 |
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Dec 30, 2014 04:11
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fleshweasel posted:Of course you must have backups. But it's easier to get back up and running if the thing that breaks--probably your hard drive-- is an easily replaced external. Otherwise you are looking at hauling your Mac to an AASP and leaving it with them. But an SSD can also fail, no? I mean, it may have a better track record (I assume because no moving parts) , but it could... And I have had a mid2010 iMac with a perfectly good 512 platter for years now... So I guess it's just odds/luck?
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Dec 30, 2014 04:21
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Hey guys I took the plunge 5 minutes ago on my order... iMac Retina 5k. Upgraded Proc. Upgraded Graphics. 1tb Fusion. (Gonna add more rams myself...) Should be here next week. So. loving. Excited!
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Dec 31, 2014 19:26
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This is totally a "OMG I'm so impatient and excited" thing, but have you folks found that ETA on custom order iMacs ever come faster than their estimates? I mean, the estimate is reasonable. (I ordered today.... It's saying next Weds - Fri.) But yeah I'm just super anxious...
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Jan 1, 2015 01:22
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Just another over-eager post about shipping stuff for my iMac. It's been preparing for shipment for 2 days now... Is it like the iPhone where all the sudden you find out it's long since been shipped, just wasn't updated?
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Jan 5, 2015 16:24
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Pivo posted:Is it BTO? BTO might actually take some time. It's not default, yes. (Upgraded cpu and gpu.) I thought preparing for shipment was the stage after they customized it, but I could be wrong...
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Jan 5, 2015 16:34
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Pivo posted:I 'unno. I'm just saying that the time from ordered to shipped was quite long for me when I BTOed. I don't recall the exact statuses, it was like 4 years ago. Word. My quote for delivery is 1/7 - 1/9/. I was just hoping for 1/7 (or 1/8 I guess) as I have a poo poo ton to do the following days.
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Jan 5, 2015 17:02
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My apologies... There may be s better thread to go to, but I haven't found it... My 5K arrives this Friday. What options exist out there for me to watch/stream/buy/obtain 4k media content? (Shows, movies... Etc.) If there's a better thread, point me to it!
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Jan 6, 2015 15:57
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Bob Morales posted:You can't stream it to a Mac or PC anyway, can you? I thought they locked it down to only 4k TV's or something? This. [edit] I find it frustrating that they are operating this way, as I would imagine there's a pretty decent set of 4k PC folks out there. However even streaming 4k appears to be only marginal improvement on 1080p streaming. Anyway, perhaps this isn't the thread for all of this... I just didn't know if there was a good resource for pc/mac owners with UHD screens to get/watch 4k content. Feenix fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Jan 6, 2015 |
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Jan 6, 2015 16:39
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Bob Morales posted:Woudln't you need like 4x the bandwidth to stream 4k anwyay? Lots of people struggle with HD anyway Actually, you are correct. I forgot about that. I guess these new TVs have apps that can use the HVEC (sp?) codec or some poo poo. Maybe that's sort of it. Anyway, that's a bit beside the point. I don't care if it was streaming... I was mostly just wondering if there were like, movies for purchase or download. I found one... "Timescapes" Which I actually have in 1080p already. It's pretty fun to sit back and watch...
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Jan 6, 2015 16:55
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:I don't even think most studios have gotten around to upping their content (new and old) to 4k yet. They really ramped that poo poo up for their HD stuff because consumers were adopting HDTV's like crazy but we're not seeing that kind of 4k adoption (yet/ever?) so I don't think there's much out there right now. But there has to be a use or no one would give a poo poo about 4k TVs, right? I think TVs can upscale regular HD a little. Can the iMac 5k do that?
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Jan 6, 2015 17:22
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Bob Morales posted:Also, doesn't NetFlix streaming HD actually look worse than a 1080p bluray because it's compressed all to gently caress? It has been said that a physical blu ray disc and 4k streaming look about the same. (whereas 1080p streaming is well below a blu ray 1080p.)
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Jan 6, 2015 18:31
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Hey guys. I got my iMac 5k. I had even gotten Windows installed on it via Bootcamp. And then I did something dumb by accident. I was trying to make a bootable USB drive for Yosemite to wipe my old Mac for my wife and it looked for "untitled" and started erasing/writing over it. Wellllllll... Untitled for SOME reason was my partition's name and now I have a partition that bootcamp cannot unmake. (I also hosed up my Windows 8.1 install.) Is there a way to unmake this partition safely? (not messing with my Mac stuff? Or can I somehow Delete contents and reuse the existing partition and reinstall windows using Bootcamp? Edit] never mind. Safari still runs like poo poo from my time machine backup so I'm taking the Nuclear Option and backing up poo poo I care about and just doing a fresh install. Will doing a fresh install "re-unify" my partitioned drive? I want it to. Feenix fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Jan 9, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 22:48
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So I've got everything set up again on my new iMac and I partition and installed Windows 8. My question now is can I hide the partition hard drive when I'm on my Mac? And more importantly can I rename it? It seems like it won't let me change the name from untitled and I'd like it not to be that because it could cause problems with some scripts. [Edit] oh I think I can change it in Windows... Feenix fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Jan 9, 2015 |
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Jan 9, 2015 03:46
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I have windows 8.1 pro installed on my iMac 5K. I have had to install some drivers to get certain things to work, and one of those things that's not working is sound. There is no sound whatsoever despite the fact that it looks like that should be, so I'm wondering if you can tell mewhat drivers I would need to download for whatever sound card is in my iMac 5K. (Windows drivers that is,) [Edit] nevermind me... Here I thought the bootcamp windows support drivers auto installed. Good to go now that I ran that. Feenix fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Jan 10, 2015 |
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Jan 10, 2015 06:19
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