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Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

ImpAtom posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMRGNwMMFro

Someone is making a game specifically for me.

HOLY poo poo :stare:

FE is the last series that I would hoped for a crossover with Megaten

Dark_Tzitzimine fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Jan 23, 2013

# ¿ Jan 23, 2013 16:57

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 22:56

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Momomo posted:

You can go back down to get EXP for that, though. I'm saying you're not missing out on anything by not exploring any of the floors.

If you're doing Elizabeth's requests you're gonna need to explore the floors sooner or later though.

# ¿ Jan 24, 2013 07:00

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Policenaut posted:

Really? I thought he was long gone by then! Well then that's why I like SJ's art so much I guess.

If you finish his S-Link in P3P's female side, it's revealed that he survives the gunshot because of some stuff that happens in the S-Link and he wakes up at the end of the game. I guess it boils down to whether or not you accept P3P as canon? I would, because Shinjiro is my favorite cast member.

If I'm remembering correctly, Shinji's still fated to die pretty soon even then making his 'coma' a pyrrhic victory at best

# ¿ Jan 27, 2013 08:28

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Captain Oblivious posted:

This Persona 3 praise is kind of blowing my mind.

Persona 3 had awful, awful pacing issues for pretty much the entire game. Not only did you have constant long stretches of nothing happening (because of the strict adherence to the Full Moon model of things happening) punctuated by dungeon trips with little motivation, you have a long period of doing nothing following Ikutski's shebang that was far worse than the small interim between Void Quest and Secret Base. Persona 4 gave you a reason to be doing these dungeons. Persona 3 felt like mindless grinding the whole way through.

In my case was the opposite. In P3 I could do an entire section of the Tartarus as soon as it was available in one night leaving me the rest of the month to hang out with friends, working on my stats and scoring chicks.

P4 was a total drag and since the time slot for the Midnight Channel was the same slot for a LOT of S. Links I was often doing the dungeon in the nick of time and merely to advance the plot.

Different strokes I guess v :v:

Policenaut posted:

Yeah, I think I remember something about the side-effects of the drug he was taking causing that?

That's right, since the moment he started taking the pills he was utterly screwed. A shame really, he was a much better character than Ken :smith:

Dark_Tzitzimine fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Jan 27, 2013

# ¿ Jan 27, 2013 20:00

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Wow, I'm in the minority. I really enjoyed all the cast of P3 while the Investigation Team didn't do anything to me. I mean, they're fun and everything but I didn't feel a connection with them.

# ¿ Jan 28, 2013 00:05

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Cleretic posted:

I think with the cast of P3 vs. P4 it comes down to preference, since they have very different focuses and purposes as stories.

My theory is that they didn't really know how well Social Links would work in P3, which is why the main story sort of avoids any potential influence by them; you don't have Social Links with most of your party, and the story avoids having your Links turn up in it. In P3 the story comes first, and the characterization comes later, and as a result yeah, the characters are more like colleagues and you don't get to know them much.

I think when P4 came around they knew how much people cared about characters, and tried to capitalize on that, because the plot is very character-driven. As a result yes, you do get to know your party members a lot better than in P3. You may not want to, you may loving hate some of these party members (I know I suffered because I didn't like Rise), but you have to associate with them. Ironically I think P3's method of AI-controlled teammates would have worked better in P4, since the party members are more characters of their own.

EDIT: Not saying hat both games didn't have their own problems, but they did come at the whole thing from completely different directions.

Exactly, still I felt more natural and relatable the interaction between SEES than the Investigation Team. Granted, I'm kind of a cynical bastard so that influenced how I saw the dynamic in P4. :v:

# ¿ Jan 28, 2013 01:09

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

I remember that when Raidou 2 was released, Atlus said that the lack of voice acting was a stylistic choice to give the game a feeling of a old time movie. Probably bullshit of course, but it's a good reason of any.

# ¿ Mar 5, 2013 21:19

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

So, this is a thing

http://pixlem.tumblr.com/post/46880056468/persona-2-arena-guys-guys-guys

:stare:

# ¿ Apr 25, 2013 04:16

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Booky posted:

Sorry to burst bubbles, but it was an April Fool's joke.

e: beaten

drat it, I should've checked the date.

# ¿ Apr 25, 2013 04:35

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

TurnipFritter posted:

e:
Found it!

No male P3 protagonist, no buy :colbert:

But seriously, a game like that would be all kinds of awesome.

# ¿ Apr 25, 2013 05:27

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

kthegreat posted:

Have you been looking for the smiley face next to their names?

I believe that you need to talk first with a Knocker for the talk tutorial for those to show up.

Dark_Tzitzimine fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Apr 26, 2013

# ¿ Apr 26, 2013 18:30

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Portable Staplefrog posted:

I am also in the warehouse and my problem is not knowing where to go to revive dead demons. Any advice?

There's a few options for that, on the bf3 there's a terminal and a heal spot. There you can revive your demons, the Sawamura Thai on Shibahama Core offers the same services but I think is pricey there and lastly, you can buy revival beads on Rx and Effects

# ¿ Apr 26, 2013 18:57

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Booky posted:

I'm sure that SMT: if had a gender choice, but then it was never done again.

Maybe the next next SMT will have a female Hero?

Truth be told, I found kind of hard picturing a High School Girl going trough a barrel wasteland recruiting demons and getting ready to kick god's rear end. Still, the female protagonist of P3P was a massive succes with the fandom so it would be dumb not making another female protagonist down the line.

# ¿ Apr 28, 2013 17:09

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Booky posted:

Anyone can kick God's rear end if they're strong enough.

Can't argue with that.

Is just that a female lead on a setting like Megaten is something so unusual that it would be odd at first. Or maybe I'm just dumb :v:

# ¿ Apr 28, 2013 17:28

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

You know so many remakes and ports are starting to sour me up a little. Before Atlus hit it big with P3 there were only announcements for new titles :sigh:

A Nocturne port it would be pretty sweet though :v:

# ¿ May 13, 2013 07:43

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

El Belmondo posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rOWDD5LFCU
I want to become a Samurai...
I will become a Samurai!

Goddamn, the music is fantastic :allears:

# ¿ May 16, 2013 06:06

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

TurnipFritter posted:

Yes, it's him. Much like the Archangels, I was getting sick of Kaneko's old Lucifer/Helel designs and was hoping to see new ones in SMT4, but not like this. Not like this. Truly I have wished upon a monkey's paw.

Got a link or a picture handy? I'm really curious to see the changes.

# ¿ May 31, 2013 08:36

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Eggn0g posted:

I know this was a few pages back, but I looked around and I think this is him? Can someone confirm/deny?

The video I got that from is here, but it's full of what I assume are major spoilers.

What the gently caress is this poo poo? We went from a really awesome design to 'Evil Overlord number 33'. Is not enough to sour me on the game but man, I hope that we'll never see again those designs.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2013 02:43

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Genpei Turtle posted:

I dunno about backlash but I've read a fair amount of bitching about them on message boards.

A few of them are OK, but it really can't be stressed enough how awful most of them are. The one saving grace is that the new designs are largely restricted to bosses and story-important demons. (and maybe some of the tippy-top tier demons I don't have access to yet) The great majority of the designs are the old ones. Which, as stale as they are, are still leagues better than the new ones.

Isn't kind of underwhelming to fight your way through an apocalyptic wasteland meeting all kinds of mythological figures and be greeted at the end by a PR monster of the week?

Dark_Tzitzimine fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Jun 5, 2013

# ¿ Jun 5, 2013 03:16

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

What's my best option to grind coins on Soul Hackers? I've doing a lot of the dice game but unless I got lucky on the first roll the winnings are pitiful.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2013 18:58

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Rascyc posted:

It was only a matter of time. Index is a well known shady mega corporation. I don't know what would happen to Atlus in the worst case scenario since I have no idea how Japan handles bankruptcy. If this were the states then you would basically have the THQ episode again where the IPs/Studios got sold off. Nintendo would probably be happy.

Oh man, I hope that it doesn't come to that :ohdear:

# ¿ Jun 12, 2013 18:59

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

MechaX posted:

Woo, after having the game for over a year and a half, I finally beat Devil Survivor 2.

The ending was... huh. I went Kingmaker; I usually don't like "reset the world!" endings because 99% of the time, no one remembers anything, the characters usually don't learn any lessons, and I think that very often it is used as a way to write oneself out of a corner or they don't want to commit to a grimdark "everybody dies" ending. Plus, from what I watched from the other endings, Ronaldo's world is a weird happy-go-lucky world while Yamato's world is "let's act out Escape from L.A. every single loving day." But Kingmaker is kinda... odd. It ends on "you made a New World without Polaris, game over." Well, what does that even mean? Did time rewind but everyone remembered it? Did the void kill humanity off-screen? I was just expecting little things like this, but eh. It was still better than the other picks, in my opinion.

I almost want to play Devil Survivor Overclocked at this point. DS2 had a big gameplay advantage in terms of the joint skill cracks, but I'm a little bit fuzzy on the story. Plus, some of DS2's bosses were just absolute bullshit.

But at least the last day consisted of Jungo with Soul Rage doing 1000+ damage on everyone that looked at him funny.

You made a new world with the team acting like a sort of new Adam & Eve, no idea if humanity survived though

# ¿ Jun 30, 2013 07:05

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Since we're talking about Soul Hackers a few questions

Is there anything more to do after beating Beelzebub? Aside of filling the compendium and grinding to lvl 99 of course.

You can't have a General and a Hero at the same time on your team or summoning a Zoma from the compendium, right?

Any tips with the incredibly awesome fight with the Raidous

# ¿ Jul 12, 2013 22:56

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

TurnipFritter posted:

You can start New Game + and get the good ending.

What is transfered in the New Game+?

# ¿ Jul 13, 2013 03:24

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Anyone knows who did the voice for Raidou and Raido on Soul Hackers?

I found the voices perfect but I can't find who's their VA.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2013 19:32

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

I'm one of these weirdos that absolutely loved the P3 cast and simply felt apathetic to the P4 one, for some reason I felt more invested on the former. Making the P4 S. Links since the beginning didn't help since their character development was ignored in favor the plot's favor.

# ¿ Jul 23, 2013 17:58

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

MarsDragon posted:

I thought it was easier to build specific skills onto demons in SJ, thanks to Sources. Though I haven't gotten Mitamas in IV yet, which will probably help. I also liked being able to specifically fuse certain demons to each other. Endless searching just feels like more effort to me. (and including the compendium doesn't help much, since it costs so much and macca is rare on the ground)

I'm a dungeon crawling fan, so I really liked SJ's dungeons. IV's are just boring. I think apps were a little better in SJ too. Everything's so expensive in IV, and even if you can eventually get more skills on your demons and MC, having to buy them for costly app points just makes it feel more like a pain in the rear end. Same with pretty much everything to do with apps. Even if eventually you can do more with them, having to slowly pick and choose which to buy feels more annoying than picking the right load out for each situation.

IV does a lot of things right, but at the same time it makes some things feel more bullshitty than they have to be. I like it, but not necessarily more than I like SJ.

And the password system makes very easy to farm sources, you'll be suffering for money keeping certain degree of balance so you don't break the game in half (at least t the beginning). I don't remember how exactly but I ended with an Asura with Victory Cry in midgame, after carefully planning I passed that onto everyone of my demons making a lot easier to advance on the game.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2013 04:57

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

tooooooo bad posted:

Hey a P4A sequel is happening. Junpei and Yukari confirmed.

I have confusing feelings about this, on one hand Yukari is my second favorite P3 character and Junpei looks fun as hell on the other, I'm getting tired of Atlus milking the P3/P4 'verse like that.

Where's my Dissidia Megaten or the third Raidou Chapter Atlus? :saddowns:

# ¿ Aug 16, 2013 03:29

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Like the update that added Valkenhain, Trinity and Makoto to Blazblue?

Bummer, I was hoping for a true sequel :sigh:

# ¿ Aug 16, 2013 04:03

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Dehry posted:

We'll have to see how that goes. The 3DS just had its region lock broken by a flashcard team (albeit on older firmware models) and likely within another year there will be some software hacks to remove it altogether.

E: This seems to have slipped through the cracks

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-09/j-trust-makes-offer-for-index-corp-in-bid-to-tap-online-clients.html

Non game companies are also trying to buy Index for the phone software they make.

E2: J Trust, partially owned by Goldman Sachs

I barealy know anything about economics, but the way this guy talks about Index's potential boost to it's own goals made look like if they they'll only use the brand to search for a wider market and they don't give a drat about their game making operations.

I hope that they don't win the bid :ohdear:

# ¿ Aug 16, 2013 18:45

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

While SMT4 story has really great moments and a lot of twists on the end, the fact that is Japan-centric kind of turn me off (specially on the neutral route), but I loved the worldwide angle on SJ and felt better handled the law and chaos factions there.

# ¿ Aug 17, 2013 04:35

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Ibram Gaunt posted:

I'm not quite sure that the SMT series is for you if being "Japan-Centric" is a negative.

I don't think it's a negative, but is kind of odd how they're talking about bringing a new era for all the humanity when in the end everything's focused on Tokyo and the rest of the world is stuck on a limbo. At least on Nocturne you have they handwaved the fact with the vortex world.

In the end, I just loved SJ setting and implications for the franchise. And truth be told, the series' appeal for me is the clever use of the world's mythology and the moral choices present on it's plot.

# ¿ Aug 19, 2013 03:40

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

ImpAtom posted:

It's not really any different from the fact that a bunch of American action movies are focused around New York or Not New York, Really even when theoretically having worldwide consequences. It's easier to focus on a large familiar city than the entire world.

Oh, I understand that, is just that I came to expect a better plot from the series. Really, just gave a trhowaway line at the ending or don't mention the rest of the world at all.

# ¿ Aug 19, 2013 04:19

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Ibram Gaunt posted:

Maybe another spinoff will deal with a more global aspect like SJ did, but the mainline series will never, ever deal with anything outside Tokyo in any real respect.

True. Still, I would love to see them using another mythology as extensivaly as they been using the japanese one.

# ¿ Aug 19, 2013 06:39

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

I would like to see other gods having as much of a role as Masakado has on IV. I mean, it would be nice to have more guardian deities from different cities all over the world.

# ¿ Aug 19, 2013 18:50

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

If I wanted to get the True Demon ending, what would I need to do to get it?

You only need to finish the Labyrinth of Amala before entering the final dungeon, is actually the easiest ending to achieve.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2013 06:08

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Dante is also mandatory.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2013 06:36

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Ibram Gaunt posted:

To add to what people have already said, since completing the optional dungeon is the only trigger and locks you out of every other ending, feel free to answer dialogue options however the gently caress you want because they are no longer relevant at all.

Except for one particular choice on the optional dungeon since that could locked you out of the TDE :v:

# ¿ Aug 30, 2013 16:36

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

So fiends don't have an absurd find rate in 3? How do they work in this game?

Is a sidequest, on your first visit to the optional dungeon they'll explain it everything about the fiends after that, is just matter of going to certain parts of the map to find them.

There a few who are kind of clever, White Rider will be fight every time you want to use a terminal to save for example :v:

# ¿ Aug 30, 2013 17:03

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 22:56

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

El Belmondo posted:

Put your MC's points into Agility/Dexterity. Demon cards work like demons in regular SMT, and are used for fusion rather than Persona x Persona. Returning a persona to Igor at max rank gives you an item for it. Personae with Megido are super useful. You can use items to fuse skills onto personae, so fusing high level spells onto low level personae is a good way to get samerecarm/mediarama for cheap healing.

You can also cheese the game by spending a lot of time on the casino and grinding for prizes there seriously, you can get there a persona that will do getting another totally irrelevant.

# ¿ Aug 31, 2013 21:05

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