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That Makoto's takeaway from the hundreds of hours we spent together, and specifically from that sixth dungeon, was "I'm going to fix the system from within!" was very possibly the only take that could have made me forget about the gay pedophile npcs straight out of a 50s propaganda video and damned if they didn't do it
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Morgana is better
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Jun 13, 2020 20:46
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you stole the exact song i was going to use that i remember loving to death, backside of the tv is so good, the whole atmospheric tone of p4 is just absolutely impeccable, i'm not sure any game will ever beat this soundtrack out anyway here's another song that's a reason to just leave the game idling, goddamn gently caress yeah persona 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9CDfMhq6dM
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Jun 13, 2020 22:39
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persona 3 is bulk 2009 going into 10, persona 4 is 2011-2, and persona 5 is 2016-7
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Jun 14, 2020 12:14
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Smiling Knight posted:Picking up Persona 4G for PC. Never played a Persona game before, but I know the general structure of the games. Anything I should know going in, like particularly enjoyable social links or efficient ways of grinding social stats? hermit is great for dungeon efficiency, but other than that, general focus on party members never hurts, but you'll probably be fine as long as you work towards ones you like. A few (hiero, justice especially) require a few maxed stats but you'll get a hang for that rhythm as you play through otherwise just always take a matching arcana persona along whenever you do a social link (unequipped is fine), and always be productive on rainy days--keys from the machine, the beef bowl for stats, or doing a dungeon to also get the rainy day mobs there if you're going in fresh, start making a lot of seperate saves around december 3rd and be careful with choices around then, it'll be pretty obvious why but that's the date to watch out for as far as a save file goes
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Jun 14, 2020 12:34
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ApplesandOranges posted:Tower is a he, isn't it? The kid you have to tutor. Unless you're thinking of Temperance? he probably did, since Tower hangs out visibly when you get him and I'm not sure you ever see Temperance walking around outside of her slink scenes
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Jun 14, 2020 12:39
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NikkolasKing posted:P4 Temperance is underrated. I don't know why so many people disliked it. it was a fine story, but you literally have to go out of your way to remember it exists--that bus stop is out of sight and mind most of the time if you use fast travel, and it's not even a familiar different character model to be curious about like Tower, it's just a bus stop also the personas in it were generally useless garbage and there weren't any mechanical benefits so people probably just defaulted to party members instead
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Jun 14, 2020 14:17
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Arist posted:the least Social Link
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Jun 14, 2020 14:51
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there was a run on interesting high school students in kobe like 20 minutes before persona 3 started
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Jun 14, 2020 14:55
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if they'd just made the whole murder plot otu of contrarian kings it would have stayed unsolved
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Jun 15, 2020 01:49
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:excuse me funky student is mandatory ignoring him is pretty wiggity-wack i have to agree
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Jun 15, 2020 15:24
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a lot of the comments i've seen on sa honestly seem to trend to the positive while at least talking about the idiotic garbage that gets put on front street which i think is appropriate for an extremely stylish game with a soundtrack for the ages that is an above average rpg with a poorly-implemented story finishing a 120 hour rpg at all is at least something of an endorsement
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Jun 18, 2020 21:45
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:P5 is a game that repeatedly show that societies ruling forces are corrupt from the bottom to the very top and its not just part of one person's crimes of conspiracy and Makoto, upon learning all the horrors of this world, decides to be a cop, but like.....a good one. Either the writers are incredibly stupid or Makpto the character is. does p5 have bad beat cops in it? I really can't remember any, and the message 'well it's corrupt from the top down to almost the bottom' is a really stupid response that takes in line makoto's dad being a perfect angel hero cop while still accounting for the up and coming sae being bad because of her ambition, not the system i'm not going to agree with the writing about rebellion from high ups in corporate culture but it feels like the tone of the whole game was 'yeah it could be good if smart kids fixed it'
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Jun 19, 2020 13:10
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Are there even beat cops in Persona 5? They kind of avoid them at large yeah, maybe to try and justify the stuff about Makoto's dad so you don't have the game going "Nah the beat cops are poo poo too" while she talks about how good and cool he was. I really and legitimately think that's what they're trying to convey, that it's fixable if enough normal people with good intentions and hearts work to make a better world using the systems they know, and all it requires is being a magic-wielding demigod with a really cool bike I guess
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Jun 19, 2020 13:21
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Cleretic posted:I'm pretty sure we don't see beat cops at all in P5. I was going to say 'outside of incidental appearances', but I don't even think there are any of those in P5; there's crime scenes, but you don't really get close to them. P4, I know that does have beat cops, but the furthest down the chain we ever really interact with in any appreciable way is Tohru 'Just Made Detective' Adachi. It definitely hones in on 'adults are bastards.' It just solves those problems by being video game characters
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Jun 19, 2020 13:29
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PMush Perfect posted:Why don't we all talk about our first "big" fusion projects that we're proud of? I used that Mediarama + Samarecarm Power as part of a long chain, and I've now got a Neko Shogun with Invigorate 2, Diarama, Resist Wind, Re Patra (via card), and Samarecarm, as well as the usual stuff. It's not a huge deal, but I did it without a guide, and I'm very proud of myself. i nuked facebook and this was 4 phones ago so i don't have the picture proof around anymore but my sraosha in persona 4 vanilla with all the auto makaja spells took me like an hour of X X O X X O X X O
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Jun 19, 2020 13:51
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deadly_pudding posted:I've beaten the game twice? 3rd palace scenario is "Makoto gets in over her head by playing make-believe cop" I think the problem is more the opposite. The scale of the consequences in Persona 5 are all, from the beginning, much much more dire than a single murder in a mountain town, or even a string of them. You can't personalize the consequences of the gigantic systemic injustices 5 wants to tackle because the whole idea, even in the text, is that it would require society to care to change, and it only does because of how popular the phantom thieves get. Every palace ruler other than the fourth has ruined lives, in increasing number and arguably severity as we go on, and as we go up the ladder absolutely indirectly responsible and/or personally responsible for deaths, but we can't sit back and examine each and every symptom of how these systemic injustices are meted out, certainly not in the same proportions that a murder in a small town would have. The stakes feel more personal in 4 because they are more personal, and less wide-spread. A serial killer story is a more focused idea in general than a broad critique of multiple areas of modern society, and the setting of a little town reflects that, especially compared to Tokyo.
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it also helped that he was a very strong character in that game iirc (i don't know i just played naoto and acted like a jerk with mutes and mudos)
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Jun 20, 2020 15:33
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:Persona 6 will be a beat-em-up. This is the unholy pact that was prophecied by Nagoshi-san. Yakuza and Persona must trade places before Mercury aligns with Io to form a gateway in Roppongi station. On this day, Super Monkey Ball will return to claim its throne, and a new order will finally coalesce. just the genesis SEGAAAAAAAAAAA booming from the sky as crepuscular rays blind the unenlightened and kiryu goes to smt and an smt game has a good protagonist for once
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Jun 20, 2020 22:27
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hamuko was too good for any of us which is why she had to be hidden away on the psp and in persona q 2
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Jun 20, 2020 22:31
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Booky posted:p3 femc is pretty cool (so were the p2 protags)! most things about p1 are pretty bad and were even pretty bad back then but it did give us this dungeon track so I can only be so unkind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDNc0XKkg8U
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Jun 20, 2020 22:38
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just going to use Halo for the entire game np
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Jun 20, 2020 22:38
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NikkolasKing posted:I don't think so. Ulala is gonna punch your lights out! Or, well, she'll probably actually spend all her time healing but ya know.... it's a team effort. i liked that the healer in persona 2 wasn't so much a person as it was whoever's turn it was to equip pixie with mediarahan card
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Jun 21, 2020 14:21
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only hitting on alley cats
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Jun 21, 2020 19:32
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the only good things about sae are an affection for good hats and that yellow roses on doberman pinscher is a strong aesthetic choice for a tattoo everything else sucks
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i entirely forgot about that particular strongarming i have the feeling that they kind of did too--that scene was probably mostly an excuse to give the protagonist and sae some screen time together during the regular course of events
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after how well p4g did on steam I think even a company as thick-headed as atlus can look at the numbers, idk what exactly we'll get from it but some kind of P3 seems pretty likely tbh
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Jun 22, 2020 13:18
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they could just release FES as-is again and please literally me and nobody else
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Jun 22, 2020 13:19
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Arist posted:They should destroy all existing copies of FES with fire
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Jun 22, 2020 13:22
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they stopped bothering bc they actually made the best one already
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NikkolasKing posted:What is Reversed in P4? They just get mad at you for some reason? reversed was only in a few situations in 4, only naoto and ai. i think you could possibly break one in 4? i really don't remember, but if so it was the same consequence as reversing, it was just asking a few questions until they want to talk again reversed in 3 was if you had multiple romance links in 9 or something similar, or if you left them alone for two months, or cancelled plans, and just required answering a few questions, but you could go from reverse to break which meant you couldn't summon that arcana and had to do further fixing
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my favorite is the distinct dancing around differentiating makoto the student/sister from makoto the social link from makoto the phantom thief gonna talk elliptically about this person for ten hours to her sister, the smart lawyer
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Jun 22, 2020 19:57
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the runup to okumura is the worst, summer vacation and morgana acting like a stupid rear end in a top hat and all the straight to bed poo poo all that for loving okumura's palace to boot at least sweatshop is a jam
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Jun 23, 2020 13:52
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MonsieurChoc posted:Sae needs to meet Baofu, the other Persona prosecutor. it is really kind of jarring that your party was a cop, a prosecutor, a writer for some current affairsy type of rag, a gym bunny and naturally a high schooler
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Jun 23, 2020 15:04
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i was leaving out billionaire nate and supermodel ellie i suppose yes ellie's dungeon was 5x less stupid and i only took nate the one time so i could do the ex dungeon
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Jun 23, 2020 15:37
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i'll leave you alone in your corner, sitting and viewing you from the digital devil saga corner, dusty and abandoned i am a skeleton bc i am dead in this corner btw
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Jun 23, 2020 20:26
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next gen labrys' boston accent
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whatever comes next is going to be a 480x360 port of the ios smt1 or something equally inexplicable
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Jun 26, 2020 21:12
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doing law in sj means siding against the cutest demon though
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ApplesandOranges posted:My biggest beef with P3 is Fuuka, really. Demure wallflowers aren't usually my thing in the first place (see Haru), but at least Haru has some spice in her, whereas Fuuka is just 'oh no!' and 'I'm bad at cooking but good at inventing'. I still quote her deadpan gasp the enemy roughly weekly also her calling you a cheater
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