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1-800-DOCTORB posted:What? It starts on Friday at 11 EST And there it is, the first "I don't like this popular game so I'm gonna call it the Awful Games block" joke of the season. Good show! 
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IMO the real hosed up thing is that GDQs rules are now so restrictive that an arbitrary time limit for game release times is so strict that they can't be worked around And no I'm not complaining about the fact that they need the schedule planned out in advance and has a limit on that, because it's a completely separate one and unlike the former actually necessary. Especially since other big speedrunning events are more than capable of being actually reasonable about this poo poo, like ESA.
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Insurrectionist posted:Especially since other big speedrunning events are more than capable of being actually reasonable about this poo poo, like ESA. ESA's cut system is loving garbage and allows people to do incredibly stupid things with their submissions.
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Apr 24, 2017 20:35
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DizzyBum posted:And there it is, the first "I don't like this popular game so I'm gonna call it the Awful Games block" joke of the season. Good show! I have been owned 
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:ESA's cut system is loving garbage and allows people to do incredibly stupid things with their submissions. Such as? I don't even care about Distortion since I don't watch him much, but as someone who loves Souls runs it's painful seeing GDQ only accepting the very shittiest categories, not just in entertainment and runner popularity (fun fact: the actual reason Bubbles was the only one to apply for running DS3 last time was simply because he was the only one interested in running any% at all, and there was no chance of getting all bosses back then since the first DLC released even closer) but also by being by far the least suited to speedrunning marathons due to the riskier skips involved. That's why both poor Bubbles' run and the disastrous BB run in the earlier GDQ ended up being so troubled. On the other hand they've refused extremely cool guy and master Demon's Souls runner Kahmul's extremely cool Demon's Souls submissions a bunch of times which makes me real sad.
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1-800-DOCTORB posted:I have been owned You wrong-warped yourself into the own. 
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I'm going to posit that: Distortion2 shouldn't be able to run the 2nd DLCs because of the rules. They don't bend them for anyone, and even if I like Distortion2 and he's a great runner they shouldn't bend them for him if they don't bend them for anyone else. There's a bigger conversation of "should they bend the rules?" but there's a ton of implications with that. GDQ Staff should be more clear on rules (imo to avoid stuff like "Should Breath of the Wild get in???" moreso than this). Like this could arguably be an incentive instead of a totally different category/run. Does that mean if a cool incentive pops up after submissions that it can't be in the marathon? Distortion2 was right to contact staff to get clarification on his submission. GDQ Staff should've responded sooner, and his submission was a red flag, but that shouldn't change their response (no 2nd DLC). There are various reasons they didn't respond right away (workload, volume of submissions, etc.), but unfortunately most people don't really care (and to be fair they don't have to). Distortion2 not running if he's not happy is fine. The other runner should keep trying to improve. Studio fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Apr 24, 2017 |
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Apr 24, 2017 20:50
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Insurrectionist posted:Such as? like five different people submitted games that were not out and a bunch more people submitted games they don't run with guess estimates that still somehow make it past first round cuts over games people have actually put effort into and completed runs of shoutouts to the two people who submitted Yooka Laylee Any% with an estimate of like six hours (game turned out to be like 40 minutes long) and the three people who submitted Breath of The Wild with no runs completed and the one guy who submitted Nier Automata before it was out and the countless people who submitted games that are out that they have no runs of bad bad bad bad
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Apr 24, 2017 20:54
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:like five different people submitted games that were not out and a bunch more people submitted games they don't run with guess estimates that still somehow make it past first round cuts over games people have actually put effort into and completed runs of  Seems like a lot of people forget that GDQ is about gamers coming together for a good cause and you should be bringing your best for everyone else's sake, not trying to get popular and gather up Twitch subs.
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Apr 24, 2017 20:57
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One of the reason ESA submissions are so uh, "odd", is that they only have one event a year. I kind of get it, since they want to try and get fresh games from 2017 but their submission cycle is sort of terrible for that. I'm very happy I don't submit to ESA  .
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:like five different people submitted games that were not out and a bunch more people submitted games they don't run with guess estimates that still somehow make it past first round cuts over games people have actually put effort into and completed runs of I mean I see the problem with all of these from a scheduling perspective but if they want to make the effort of figuring this all out before things start and make it hard on themselves, all the power to them. I don't really see what there is to complain about from a viewer perspective (other than the prospect of watching BotW speedruns, ugh). And people getting in with games they don't run over people who put effort in seems like a weird criticism of ESA when GDQ does the exact same thing so ???
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DizzyBum posted:
These were ESA submissions. And all of the ones I specifically named got through. ESA isn't where you go to try and get popular anyway it's just, people giving less of a poo poo than I apparently do? again i may take speedrunning too seriously Insurrectionist posted:I don't really see what there is to complain about from a viewer perspective (other than the prospect of watching BotW speedruns, ugh) My perspective isn't a viewer one, my perspective is a runner perspective. I have four games past Round 1 ESA cuts and one that died. My one that died was garbage so who cares, but still, if I were any other of those people who had their practiced game cut in favour of games that are literally unknown quantities, I would be, quite justifiably, pissed off.
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That does sound really lovely and chaotic, but ESA is kind of an amateur hour compared to current GDQ's anyway. I don't know if the organizers are looking to become more professional, but the way you describe the submission process it doesn't seem that way.
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Apr 24, 2017 21:10
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last couple pages were good poo poo
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Apr 24, 2017 21:13
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I probably wouldn't want to if I was them, for all the extra pain in the rear end work their lax structure brings them it can't possibly compare to the sheer amount of stuff to do and scrutiny received by GDQs. How many people does GDQ have to do all the organizational poo poo anyway? Hope for them it's quite a few.
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TeaJay posted:That does sound really lovely and chaotic, but ESA is kind of an amateur hour compared to current GDQ's anyway. I don't know if the organizers are looking to become more professional, but the way you describe the submission process it doesn't seem that way. I've never gotten a clear sense of direction, vision or ambition from ESA organisation, which is a pity because I'm friends with some of the people who run it? I don't like criticizing it because of that because they do work really hard and are super easy to approach about stuff to do with the marathon and then just later shoot the poo poo with over Guilty Gear, but I'm not sure if they know what they want to be?
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Apr 24, 2017 21:14
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:These were ESA submissions. And all of the ones I specifically named got through. ESA isn't where you go to try and get popular anyway it's just, people giving less of a poo poo than I apparently do?  Oops, I need to pay more attention.And probably! I can see how it would be a big deal to some, anyway.
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Apr 24, 2017 21:33
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eonwe posted:last couple pages were poo poo
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Apr 24, 2017 22:43
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eonwe posted:last couple pages were good poo poo Not enough cruelly wishing other people got cancer, in this poster's opinion.
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CJacobs posted:Not enough cruelly wishing other people got cancer, in this poster's opinion. i wish other people got cancer, cruelly
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Captain Invictus posted:I've found a new shortcut in your post that coincidentally also better represents the last few pages. thats some sweet speedrun tech. i can safely say thats never happened before
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Distortion did the right thing for the wrong reason Dark Souls speed runners are still the worst people, but at least they're not as bad as the cyberdemon group from agdq.
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DizzyBum posted:Why don't we shut up about Dark Souls and discuss the real issue: there's no Awful Games block. Not enough awful game submissions this time? Isn't AwfulGDQ an AGDQ-exclusive block?
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Apr 25, 2017 02:23
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How are you supposed to watch an 8-way Tetris race?
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Heran Bago posted:How are you supposed to watch an 8-way Tetris race? The same way you participate in an 8-way Tetris race: git gud.
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Apr 25, 2017 02:26
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eonwe posted:what do you guys want to be there will be some chuds wearing MAGA hats during NASA there will be some "comedian" handing them out at the door
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Violently Car posted:Isn't AwfulGDQ an AGDQ-exclusive block? Yes. Summer is silly games done quick block.
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Apr 25, 2017 04:27
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Heran Bago posted:How are you supposed to watch an 8-way Tetris race? TGM's layout has 2 boards on the screen. If they double up (and deal with the input issues that introduces -- it's bad enough that you will notice it the first time you play with 2 ppl) it shouldn't be too bad.
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KennyMan666 posted:The fun part is that I was running the game on 3DS before the PC version was even out, so if anything, he's the newcomer. I just never made the speedrun.com page since I can't record from 3DS. I ran into something like that with a game I used to run. I've had my video of a single segment run on Youtube for years, plus discussion of it on the SDA forums (not to mention individual level runs on SDA proper). Someone else came along and posted a run to speedrun.com as a world record, except his run was slower and sloppier, I think he ran it on an emulator, and he even turned off the music to decrease load times. It looks like they've since removed that record, thankfully.
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What happens if a speedrun's estimate is significantly reduced between submitting and the marathon? (Ex: Wind Waker HD) Do they revive a cut game to fill the time?
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F. Lobot posted:What happens if a speedrun's estimate is significantly reduced between submitting and the marathon? (Ex: Wind Waker HD) Do they revive a cut game to fill the time? They have games that are accepted on a backup baisis.
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someone in the trump thread has committed an unforgivable sin by asking this questionPop-o-Matic Trouble posted:who gives a poop about speedrun drama lets watch some dotes https://www.twitch.tv/dotamajor
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It'd 100% just be someone who's already there. Think of the way a backup run would be handled if a runner had a medical emergency of some kind, etc. Imo just have uranium anchor run something, the man is a machine.
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I don't see how the "we had a hard time schedule" excuse holds any water when ThorW's PB is 15 minutes behind Dist2's for DLC1 All Bosses If they're trying to make up for the embarrassment of Bubble's any% run, they're not doing a good job of it. Zerg Mans fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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i heard UA said he is the blaster master, but he isnt proving it at SGDQ its fuked up.
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eonwe posted:someone in the trump thread has committed an unforgivable sin by asking this question dotes are good and not everyone has to enjoy the same content as us 
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eonwe posted:i heard UA said he is the blaster master, but he isnt proving it at SGDQ I offered and they didn't take it. I expect BM0 to at least make a showing at AGDQ.
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UraniumAnchor posted:I offered and they didn't take it. I expect BM0 to at least make a showing at AGDQ. I hate to be this guy, but an 8 hour FF7 run and no BM0? You better submit it at AGDQ again!
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